They're in Vietnam. Wonder who had that bright idea? Fleissmeister?

• Individual date-Renee,Round Robin, 09:20 PM, 02-03-14
  • RE: Individual date-Renee,Round Robin, 09:34 PM, 02-03-14
• Group date-9 girls & JP in boats,Round Robin, 09:37 PM, 02-03-14
  • RE: Group date-9 girls & JP in boats,Round Robin, 09:54 PM, 02-03-14
• Individual date with Nikki,Round Robin, 09:55 PM, 02-03-14
  • RE: Individual date with Nikki,Round Robin, 10:22 PM, 02-03-14
• Cocktail party,Round Robin, 10:49 PM, 02-03-14
• Rose Ceremony,Round Robin, 11:00 PM, 02-03-14
  • RE: Rose Ceremony,Bevy, 11:15 PM, 02-03-14
    • RE: Rose Ceremony,Round Robin, 00:00 AM, 02-04-14
      • RE: Rose Ceremony,Bevy, 00:04 AM, 02-04-14
        • RE: Rose Ceremony,Round Robin, 05:50 AM, 02-05-14
          • RE: Rose Ceremony,Bevy, 08:41 PM, 02-06-14

This girl looks great in that blue dress.

Renee gets the rose.

And somehow Clare winds up in a boat with JP and the other 8 girls are all pi$$ ed.

Clare & JP pull a Courtney & Ben, minus the nudity and the sex. Clare gets the rose.

This looks like it's gonna be interesting.

They rappel down into a 200 foot deep cave, then walk out the bottom. That night they have dinner in a different cave. Nikki gets the rose.

Methinks Juan Pablo is an idiot. Methinks also ABC effed up majorly casting him as the Bachelor. He made a complete mess of things with Clare. I bet this was one of the times I've heard about when he considered quitting the show.

LAST EDITED ON 02-03-14 AT 11:56 PM (EST)

Danielle, Alli, and Kelly get the ax. New Zealand next week.

LAST EDITED ON 02-03-14 AT 11:18 PM (EST)

My new fav is Renee. It would be all the harder, both being single parents, but I like her. I still kind of like Nikki and Andi. Cassandra is just way too young for him. I Know she's a mom, but she's so young, wet behind the ears, green.

That blood vessel in Clare's forehead was madly pulsating when Juan Pablo took her aside.

Can't wait for New Zealand. xox Ants

P.S. can't believe the news about Hoffman

Whoever he picked should dump his sorry a$$ the second they'll let her. This guy is a brainless loser.

I love him. He's so handsome and so nice (so far). I'm not gonna hold my breath for a successful outcome, though. It's not so much the poor track record for the show, it's simply that it's really tough for single parents to have that second, lasting relationship. I hope the best for him (such a hottie), but I kinda doubt it's gonna work. Juuuuuan Pablooooooo . . .

You and I must not be watching the same show if you think he's nice. He might appear nice on the surface, but the guy is an incorrigible cad. No damn wonder the mother of his daughter is no longer with him. He gives in to temptation and does what he pleases without regard for the women's feelings, and his only concern, and it's a weak one at that, is how it'll look on TV. Not a good example for his daughter at all.

Okay, but it's The Bachelor. He's gonna kiss some girls. What Bach or 'ette has kissed no one? I think he's been very polite. He didn't kiss a couple girls with the excuse that his daughter is watching. I think that's better than saying, "I'm just not that attracted to you." If he honestly tells 5 girls that he's not attracted to them and then the show has him send only 2 of them home, there will be 3 girls left, during the next episode, to whom he's said that he just isn't interested in them. It would be pretty sour for them to hang around after that.

That's how the show works. 25 girls/guys come out. The Bach or 'ette is seriously attracted to maybe 6. Well, he/she must choose 22, then must choose 18, then must choose 16, and must keep whittling it down, when in reality, s/he already knows who the finalists will be on the first night. To save feelings, they have to make excuses for not connecting.

I liked Juan Pablo during Des's season the whole time. He was the only one with the balls (pun intended) to wear a speedo during the Mr. America competition. That's also when he talked about the love for his daughter. I think he's a pretty nice guy, doing what he can with the situation he's in.