yes, silverstar, I agree- i think jerry was absolutely gorgeous and everytime he kissed Jen I was picturing myself in her shoes!! Double swoon!

There is no such thing as the perfect person. As for Jerry he hasn't been home in years.. and yet ironically decides after knowing a woman whom he met on a reality show for all of 2 weeks to finally come home and meet his mother. Who happens to be deaf.

The man is well known reality whore and it was obvious the MORON's probing of his family was wasted as they have no real idea what Jerry is like or likes as they haven't SEEN him for years.

Jerry is good looking. Period. Beyond that I wouldn't even go further to figure out who or what he is about.

*fingers in ears* lalalalalalalalala. I can't hear you! lalalalalalala.

He's perfect, I say! Perfect!

RR, your post isn't the first I've seen that claims Jerry has a DAW past. Was there a thread about Jerry being on other shows or something? I missed it! If that's true, then that just proves my vague misgivings about this "perfect guy."

Incessant whining.
He's still hot, though.

Apparently Jerry has dated reality whores from other shows. At one point he was a doorman on The Real World which led him to date one of the contestants there and then the BB winner Lisa he also dated.

A "source" claimed that he wants to be famous and is accomplishing it by dating reality women.

This may be why the moron keeps asking "are you in to win?" Even in that dim bulbs recesses of her small mind she is instictivly responding to a sense that all is not right here.

I am currently reading a book called Blink which is about how we know in an instant the outcome of a situation. The whole idea of "love at first sight" the response of "fear" in certain situations, etc. And Gladwell discusses how we often use this instant sensation to determine our level of attraction to a partner.

What is interesting is he also cites a study by a UW Professor who can predict with amazing certainity the success of couples by the WAY they communicate. The subtle clues and signs given that tell you if they are going to make it. Given the propensity for Jen's eye rolling, smirking and obvious disdain she provides a "tell" that if you look sees who she is attracted to. She picks the wrong guys because she overlooks all those signs that they in turn give her.

Jen has zero self awareness and even less external awareness. I think you and I and others are picking up on how he LOOKS at her. Its very condescending and almost paternalistic. He pets her head, kisses her head as one would a child. His attraction to her seems unnatural but if you recall she and Andrew had that. She is very asexual and in kissing sequences its been commented about her lack of chemistry.

Jen is attracted to Jerry sexually. But she doesn't see beyond that. She isn't exactly bright.

RangeRover, do you even know Jerry? Those comments are kinda harsh? What is wrong with being protective of his family? maybe there is a reason he has not been home in 2 years that were not divulged on the show. You are extremely judgemental.How do you know that he is a reality whore? Do you work in the entertainment industry? Why are you still watching if you bash the show so much?

> Why >are you still watching if >you bash the show so >much?

I thought the show was "fair game" for bashing or "fawning." IMHO, Jerry is suspect......in more ways than one. I just can't believe that Jen will pick him...... I am hoping she will pick John Paul...best looking, best family, and most stable. Jerry appears to be one of those guys that will do "anything" for money or attention.

Missy...let me explain something to you. FREE SPEECH. I have the right to have my opinions, you have the right to disagree with them. PERIOD.

This show is in fact what the preceding poster said..FAIR GAME..I suspect everyone in this shows "intentions" and if you read my other posts in another thread you would see why I bash it.

I think the odds and statistics of the relationships, and I use that term loosely, have proven that the intention of these people and their subsequent claims of wanting to find someone are in fact b/s. THIS IS MY OPINION to which I am entitled.

You don't have to agree with me and if Jerry rocks your world that is great. To each his or her own.

And to answer your questions: I would but I highly doubt you are all that interested.

Listen here, Missy! (sorry, no offense intended. I just had the urge to type that! )

RR is right that we don't have to "know" reality TV people or work in the industry to bash them here. Also, in my original post I asked for people to call my attention to Jerry's faults, since he was just tooooo perfect for me.

This "Real World" thing has got me thinking that Jerry is just a DAW. Makes me wonder, though, why, if he wants to be famous, he is dating reality stars. Why not date REAL stars? Or why not BECOME a "star" in your own right?

That said, I think the reason that Jen keeps wondering about Jerry's motivation and "wanting to win" is because of what Fabrice told her about Jerry.

Incessant whining.

This whole "Does Jerry just want to 'win'?" thing is all misdirection. That conversation with Jerry's brother continued well after he said he didn't know what Jerry's intentions were. I am sure the conversation was edited and taken out of context. Fabrice gave them the sound bite and they ran with it.

As far as the whole "DAW" and Daw-dater thing goes, couldn't it just be possible that he was an innocent doorman who got pulled into the world of Reality TV through the Real World happenstance? And once you are in the circle, you tend to meet and date others in that circle.

And who is to say Jerry wasn't recruited for this show because someone saw his beautiful face on the Real World? How do we know he actively sought this limelight and for what purposes if any?

She's going to pick him, no doubt. And even if it doesn't work out in the long run, she'll at least get to see him nekkid. Sounds like a successful outcome to me!

Yumm! He is a really beautiful male specimen, I must say

> maybe
>there is a reason he
>has not been home in
>2 years that were not
>divulged on the show.

I don't have a problem with him not being home in 2 years. Alot of people don't like to go home again. Now if he has not seen his mother in 2 years I would worry. But he didn't say that. He may have visited with his mother at his place in LA and at other relatives' houses rather than going home to Rochester to visit. Maybe he likes to treat his mother to trips to visit him so she doesn't have to cook and take care of him when he goes home. We really were not given enough info to know. And meeting at his brother's house might have been so his mother didn't have to do the cooking and his brother maybe has a larger house to accomodate everyone and the camera people.

If Jerry really likes Jen, then he could have been concerned not just for his family's sake, but for the sake of this budding romance - will she have an adverse reaction, as perhaps some past would-be girlfriends have had? It's not like Jen would be rude, necessarily, but it seems likely that other women have just shown the signs of being uncomfortable, or done their best to ignore his mother.

And he was worried that that would be the case with Jen.

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I agree, the whole family thing is a little shady. There is something going on that we didn't see. I wish he gave a reason why he hasn't been home in so long! There's gotta be a reason, maybe they just edited it out for whatever reason. Made me wonder though. Maybe it's something about his Dad who was MIA. Jerry and his Mom and even brothers were very warm with each other so it's hard to believe Jerry is an estranged son..

I can understand why he was nervous about bringing Jen home though. When you are on a first or 2nd or 3rd date, the last thing you want to do is bring in anything painful into the mix. Most people will get scared off or somehow feel uncomfortable. Jen handled the situation really well but I can see why he would be nervous.

I can't really figure out his motives but if he's acting, then he fooled me! He really looks genuinely smitten when he's with Jen.

I really do like John Paul also. But I wonder if Jen wants someone more exciting. He's a sweetheart of a guy, but tends to be very laid back and reserved. That can get old real fast. Plus this situation reminds me of Andrew all together. Andrew had his whole life set up and Jen waltzed right into it and felt out of place. JP has everything settled already so I wonder if Jen can once again deal with entering a man's life instead of building their own life together.

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I think Jen is ready for laid back. Remember with Andrew they were always going, going, gone and that was part of their problem.

I think Jerry sure is pretty but something about him just does not sit with me right.

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It might be just him being a little more guarded. I do that myself (not on purpose of course) but I take my time before jumping into things head first. He seems like a guy who takes a while to really get to the heart of and might not open up as fast as others. That can definitely work against him in this setting.

Truthfully, while I have some problems with Jerry, I had more problems with Jen in this episode. Gah, she's so vapid.

And she has by far and away the most chemistry with Chris.

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LOL. Did you catch the way he looked at her before the rose ceremony. Methinks Chris has a crush.

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