LAST EDITED ON 05-17-05 AT 10:07 AM (EST)

First, let me say that JP was not hard enough on Janu, Ian, or Ashlee who all asked to be voted out in my opinion - but I do not think he was to hard on Jeff.

First what he said at the end of last seasons show was "if you wont quit". He did not say anything about a broken ankle - leaving many of us to speculate about more than 1 quitter. Jeff did not have a broken ankle.

Second, Jeff had surgery on his ankle before the show - I have heard nothing about surgery after the show or since. Jeff would have brought that up right away if he had it. It is my opinion and from what we know about the "vacations" that Jeff was perfectly fine with in a week or so. I also think that JP gave him a harder time because he was so crutial to their tribe - his own tribemates said that Jeff was the only one that could beat Tom.

I have had a sprained ankle as well and there was no putting weight on it at all. Jeff was walking all over the place - yes he was limping but IMHO - not that badly.

Bobby Jon said at the reunion show that Jeff has had surgery on the ankle since the show.

The world is my litterbox.

No - BJ actually said that "he has had surgery on that ankle" which happened 1 year before the show started.

Did Jeff quit? Yes. He twisted his ankle. He should have stuck it out. I mean, we know that Ulong was going to be eliminated eventually. But Kim should have gone before Jeff. In the big scheme, it doesn't really matter because it's really only 3 days. But it is the principle of "quitting" versus being voted off.

Did Janu quit? Yes. If Koror had actually lost an immunity, then she would have been voted out earlier (unless Greg kept her around for his little plot that never unfolded). Janu lasted longer than she deserved to. However, I was glad to see her quit before Stephenie.

Did Ian quit? Are you kidding me? Of course not?!! It was the last immunity challenge. It was almost 12 hours in. It was basically day 39! Ian virtually lasted 39 days! Why is he a quitter? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on these boards.

Tom had already made a deal with Ian. The deal was either step down and he takes Ian, or risk losing and he takes Katie. Ian actually took the power away from Tom, and redeemed himself with both Katie and Tom. What Ian lost was around $15K to $25K (what does third place earn?). But in return he controlled his own destiny, regained the respect of 2 of his good friends, and still lasted 38 days. (I still think he made it into 39, though).

Ian is not a quitter. Cut and dry.

I view quit differently. I view it as not allowing your tribe to vote for you. Jeff and Ashlee, especially Jeff, still left their fate in the hands of their tribe. Any group of members could have decided not to vote for them just because they said to, and they could've stuck around. When Janu or Osten quit, they didn't allow that to happen. They just said "I'm done."

Ian didn't quit the game, but his brain sure didn't seem to be functioning.

-Mo0cow--
I'm not stupid, just selectively ignorant.

I think Ian basically handed the million to Tom - and knew he was doing it. He knew that Katie had no chance at all against Tom. Ian had a better chance, but would have to go through the questioning at the final TC which he knows can get rough. I think he realized that he couldn't emotionally handle that and therefore handed the victory to Tom.

And in some ways, he kept up his end of the bargain with Tom. They agreed to fight it out at the end - and they did for 12 hours. Then Ian handed Tom the million and walked away. Let's face it, Tom wasn't about to come off that buoy. Ever. Heck, he'd probably still be there now! Ian looked at the possibility of staying up there for another 12 hours and still losing to Tom and decided to take fate into his own hands. It's all about deals by that point and he made his deal to give Tom the money.

Quitting? Definitely not in the same vein as Osten or Janu (who never should have been allowed to be on the jury) or those who have asked to be voted out. Strategic? Yes.

"Did Ian quit? Are you kidding me? Of course not?!! It was the last immunity challenge. It was almost 12 hours in. It was basically day 39! Ian virtually lasted 39 days! Why is he a quitter? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on these boards."

Ian stepped down from the challenge because he was feeling bad about having Tom and Katie mad at him, and him quiting like this might of seemed noble, except you know, he didn't do ANYTHING wrong.
As he didn't do anything wrong to deserve them getting mad at him, he was essentailly being a push over and quiting because he couldn't handle the emotional stress of the situation, and really, someone who lets Tom and Katie bully him into steping down like that IS a quitter, atleast in my mind.

I went back and listened to what Jeff Probst said and his words were to apply "if you will play with a broken ankle". I think Jeff (the contestant) was being made an example of because the producers don't want to see anymore quitting. So it seemed a lot of time was spent on the subject.
To be honest with you, in my opinion, asking Jeff why he left was something I didn't care about at this point. I'd completely forgotten all about it. I enjoy watching the Reunion when the questions I want answered, get asked. There's only one hour. I wanted to know a lot more about what happened in the most recent weeks- was there anything Tom could have said to get Coby's vote; the weakness and fingerpointing of the women, etc. etc.
This was a Survivor where two people basically had Survivor quit on them before they ever played. When Jeff left, he had a 1 in 14-17 ( I don't remember exactly when he left) chance of winning. He hadn't signed a multi-million dollar sports contract and wasn't going to get injections to relieve his pain. He's a very young guy who works as a trainer. If he thought he was putting his livelihood in jeopardy, then he didn't owe Survivor anything. Survivor didn't seem to worry about Wanda and Jonathan. I did feel very badly for Jonathan when Angie told him why she thought he wasn't picked. That seemed needlessly cruel.
I thought the whole quitting thing was time I would have rather seen spent discussing other issues.

I'm sorry Mom - I have last seasons and this season on TIVO - NO WHERE did JP say "broken ankle" that I can hear.

Maybe your Tivo cut off the last seconds of the Reunion. I just went back and right after the preview for Guatemala and information about eBay, Jeff tells potential contestants to apply "if you'll play with a broken ankle". It's right at the very end.

LAST EDITED ON 05-18-05 AT 11:56 AM (EST)

Probst definitely said something to that effect near the end of this reunion show (not last season's). Whether he said "broken" or "rolled" or "injured" I don't recall, but it was clearly a dig at Jeff Wilson.

He seems to have it in for Jeff right from the start. In his pre-show interviews, Probst said that when Jeff applied, he teased him about shaving his body hair, and told him he was not going to be able to hack it out there.

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