All the "winners" don't make for good TV, nor would they all be fun to watch. All the winners won for different reasons. Some, like Tina or even Sandra, won because the last immunity winner took the wrong person. What's fun about watching the wrong winner win???

But as far as EJM's comment, "IF Survivor makes it to 17-18 editions, which is doubtful because of Burnett's attitude and the average longevity of reality shows," I have to say that I think that Survivor can definitely survive. Other reality shows don't last because they just suck, or they have a lame premise or one that can only last one time. But Real World and Road Rules continue for a decade's worth of viewing, and it's because they continue to reinvent themselves. Survivor has changed and evolved since Borneo, and I hope it continues to do so. Even if EPM decided to quit the show, CBS could keep Jiffy on board and make sure the series lasts for a long time, as long as it stays interesting.

I gotta agree that it would be bad TV. Most of the fun of Survivor is watching average shmoes screw up. The winners, and all stars, aren't really average people anymore (well, except for Amber).

The only thing really fun about this season is seeing the smug looks getting wiped off winners' faces and seeing just how wildly paranoid everyone is.

The big bummer is that there are too many people out there with a lousy attitude. One Osten per season is enough. This time we seem to have several.

-BbB

I agree completely.

>But as far as EJM's comment,
>"IF Survivor makes it to
>17-18 editions, which is doubtful
>because of Burnett's attitude and
>the average longevity of reality
>shows," I have to say
>that I think that Survivor
>can definitely survive. Other
>reality shows don't last because
>they just suck, or they
>have a lame premise or
>one that can only last
>one time. But Real
>World and Road Rules continue
>for a decade's worth of
>viewing, and it's because they
>continue to reinvent themselves.
>Survivor has changed and evolved
>since Borneo, and I hope
>it continues to do so.
> Even if EPM decided
>to quit the show, CBS
>could keep Jiffy on board
>and make sure the series
>lasts for a long time,
>as long as it stays
>interesting.

I'm actually enjoying ASS so far.

A lot of the Survivors are coming across a little bit differently this time, and it's fun (at least for me) to see how people react differently when placed in a different situation with different people.

Rob M is still Rob M, but he seems to have his act together much better this time around. Same with Jenna L.

Ethan is still Ethan, but he has to struggle a lot harder this time around to go on in the game. And after last night, it seems like he just might pull it off after all. What with Rudy voted out, and now Rupert fighting with Jerri.

I've noticed some posters on this board calling Jenna L a loser, and Amber boring. Well guess what? This time around, they may not be losers or boring at all.

Even some of the contestants don't seem to get the idea yet that putting people in a different situation can change things.

For example, a few of the Survivors in the other tribes were shocked at seeing that Tina has been voted out. They must have thought that certain people are somehow preordained to be winners and other losers no matter what situation they are in.

It ain't necessarily so. By the end of the season, they'll find out differently

If they were ever to hold a Survivor "Championship," I don't think Vesepia would be boring. Again, different people in different situations.

Who knows if Survivor will last that long? I think it could ... As one poster commented, it's all in the concept. Survivor has an incredibly good basic concept, unlike so much of what they call "reality"

(Remember "Paradise Hotel???" Bwahahahahahaha!)

So I say let it happen. Survivor 17: Championship may never come to pass, but if it did, it would be fun.