LAST EDITED ON 09-18-02 AT 05:45 PM (EST)

This thread will only contain those vidcaps that I think might contain a clue or hint.

$1.254 million loss...
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DMVF.com website...
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Newspaper...
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Possible photo of Jim's motel room...
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Job's tattoo???
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Someone being monitored...
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Nothing here, but folks thought there might be...
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Keep your eyes open for her...
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Oh come on...
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Number changes to $1.045 million
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ABC's 'Alias' on at 11PM local time -- was it taped?
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Someone thought the lamps might be something...
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FLIR ThermaCam... does that name mean anything?
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Will we see him again???
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Someone noted lots of RED CHAIRS -- well here's one
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The mysterious couple... I'll post a larger copy of the screen bank later
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Push Times archive... not sure if all this is available on PushTimes.com
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Is that a younger Mr. Smooth in the background???
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More Push Times archives...
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Two thugs...
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Bottom says something about visting all their other locations around the country???
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Local time 9:00PM... sees two couples
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The Mysterious "Mr. Smooth"
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More women on the fenceposts...
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Is this the security guy we saw earlier??? (see #116)
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• Monitor screen bank,SurvivorBlows, 07:08 PM, 09-18-02
• RE: Episode 1 Possible Hint & Clues Vidcaps,lizard, 07:28 PM, 09-18-02
• frame 181,psychobob, 02:27 AM, 09-19-02
• Tatoos?,Jims02, 07:11 AM, 09-19-02
  • RE: Tatoos?,psychobob, 12:47 PM, 09-19-02
    • RE: Tatoos?,SurvivorBlows, 05:09 PM, 09-19-02
      • ....,psychobob, 09:50 PM, 09-19-02
        • RE: ....,asp, 11:52 PM, 09-19-02
          • silas,psychobob, 12:33 PM, 09-20-02
            • RE: silas,MarysTwin, 06:07 PM, 09-20-02
              • RE: silas,WonByOne, 04:25 AM, 09-23-02
      • RE: Tatoos?,WonByOne, 04:20 AM, 09-23-02
  • RE: Tatoos?,WonByOne, 04:33 AM, 09-23-02
• RE: Episode 1 Possible Hint & Clues Vidcaps,Erebus, 07:21 PM, 09-23-02

Monitor screen bank

The phone number on the top right corner of the Versailles fax is Bodnick's voicemail and needs a password. It's a 1-866 number which I'm guessing(hoping!) is toll-free. If anybody has a number from the first Ep that WASN'T the amount it's worth a try as the password. The fax itself is available at http://www.enochonline.com.

ohh! thank you! Uggh. I know I'm giving out a lot of clues on this board, but here's one for gratitude:

Pay attention to frame 181. No...it's not the loving couple that bothers me...it's santa claus. Two things perplex me. One, by the time episode 13 airs (if the show continues on a weekly basis) then it would already be the holidays. two, look on www.pushtimes.com on the sheriff's blotter. Twice, there has been an incident with this plastic "thing".

Monday 9/9, 8:25 PM: 65-year-old male reported a strange figure "lurking" in yard. Officers responded and discovered plastic Santa Claus, fallen from roof. Man thanked officers, who returned to station.

Thursday 9/12, 8:47 pm: 65-year-old male reported strange figure "lurking" near trashcan. Officer asked if figure resembled Santa Claus. Man checked, and said it did. Officer asked if man recalled throwing away plastic Santa Claus during earlier incident. Man thanked officer. Officers were not dispatched.

Frame 181 conflicts with these two reports. this means (sarcastically), that a 65 year olf guy could've be making love at 9:15, and that st. nick could be back from the dead.

I'm going to follow this show also, but I probably won't have as much to add.

In Vidcaps 276 and 284 you can see something on the masked man's right arm. I remember on my tape, seeing a tatoo on his arm when he was pouring the gasoline on the house.

Didn't Job have a tatoo also? Possibly, someone else has one that we don't know about yet.

That's just my observation tho

Nah. that's not Job at all. Job's arms are all covered with tatoos, compared to only one red tatoo. Also, Job seems a bit taller and has lighter hair than this killer.

LAST EDITED ON 09-19-02 AT 05:11 PM (EST)

It's not Job (see #10 for one of his)

Look at the security guy that was shown for no apparent reason in #116.

Note the hairline and fair.

Remember he was watching Silas via the security camera and remakred that he was a jerk or such.

Look at the killer.

Remember that Mr. Smooth seems to run the Casino.

My first hunch is that the security guy is the killer, otherwise the shot of him seems to serve no current use (but maybe it's for some future plotline.)

-SB

LAST EDITED ON 09-19-02 AT 09:56 PM (EST)

It's definitely NOT the security guy. Trust me.

Look at episode 1 very closely. Ironically, Jim has unwittingly seen this killer before Sila's death (we don't really get to see his face however), and it's a very HUGE clue indeed in a short amount of time. Which is why he was wearing that mask.

Man...why AM I helping you guys

Silas isn't dead... The guy in the mask was a decoy to make Jim think that Silas was dead. Silas is on his way to Orlando.

Where the heck does it say that Silas is ALIVE?? And in orlando?

It never said that he was alive.. but when he called his sister she lived in Orlando she sai,"WHen are you gonna go to Disney Land and are you goinna bring that pretty Mary girl with you!"

My theory is that he is alive and we will see him later and he is in orlando. After all thats where he told Jim he could find him..by a pool right?

~Darcy

Silas said he would be in South America by a pool with Jim's wife.

Also, he had a small plastic Hula girl on his desk.

Also, Jim's wife -- Darlene -- called him from a hotel room showing a hurricane on TV meteorological screen.

As for Silas being alive, we can presume, perhaps, that Jim checked the body before leaving. That we didn't see him do it doesn;t mean he didn't, just like that we didn't see him get in his car doesn't mean he didn't -- or else he could not have driven away, right? No movie or TV show is shot in real time with every presumed fact shown on screen.

However, if he is alive, why did the three goons show up at the house site and try to convince them it was a suicide? No one disputed that Silas was dead, just HOW he died. In addition, Mr. Smooth told him to take car of Jim by 7 PM, then, when Silas left and used his car phone to call Mary to run away with the money, Mr. Smooth heard him on a sound system in his car. There is every reason to believe Smooth ordered him killed, and that Mary is linked to Mr. Smooth and other higher ups in the Casino and overall plot scheme. If he was not truly angry at Silas, then why the whole scene in which he threatens Silas in his office. That certainly was not for anyone's benefit to con -- since Jim was not in the room, nor anyone else!

If you are suggesting they are the same man, you are wrong.

He is shown in the office first, with short hair.

The killer has a fuller hairline.

Also, he is significant. The security man calls Silas an "ass"
while watching him.

Also, listen carefully to the three voice mails on the Enoch site. Do you recall anyone talking about Silas always hanging around their office and looking over their shoulders like he doesn't trust them? Obviously, Silas was trying to figure out how to get around the system by checking over their system and how they monitor it.

Long and short, he is crucial to the plot in a variety of ways.

Whether he will continue to be so is up to the writers, but trying to figure how the money was stolen is still what the three CIA-type goons are up to, and this guy may cross paths with them in some way in the future.

Forget about hair color and arm tatoos with Job.

Job's hair is long in back and he has neck tattoos.

The killer had no neck tattoos and short, clean cropped
hair.

And if this killing was a fake, why do the three goons
show up and call it a suicide?

No one challenged that Silas was dead, only HOW he died!

Also, Mr. Smooth tells Silas in private to take care of Jim
by 7 PM or he's essentially dead.

Silas seals his own fate by calling Mary from his car phone
(overheard by Smooth on his car monitoring system) and saying
he's running away with the money (he says in his safe) and
that he's gone. Undoubtedly, Smooth ordered him killed.

If Smooth's threats and monitoring are all part of a ruse, who
is he fooling but the viewer only, since no one else is
in the office or his car to be privvy to the supposed con job?

I believe Silas is dead...

But, I am willing to acknowledge even Bobby Ewing came back to
life after an entire season gone.

And that Bob Newhart awoke on the final day of his second TV
show to find Suzanne Pleshette his wife, and that he imagined that he had been married to the actual woman from the second series.

OK, some comments and questions on some of these caps that i haven't seen addressed yet.

1. Mr. Smooth is spec'd to be in the background of 154-160

What about 164, note that in the background of the paper archive pic there is a man standing that isn't identified. (The "New Sherriff picture, the man i'm considering is the one on the far right) Also, look at 169, there is a man to the right of Vito and his wife, 170 there "could" be a man to the upper left of the woman there (it looks like a necktie, could be wrong).

2. Who is the Mr./Mrs. Scott that is murdered in 172-3, the Push Times article above the website mention?

There were no witnesses and the murder likely remains unsolved.

3. In 168 (this is spec'd in other places likely) there is a mention of the mysterious tower.

Could this be a reference to the mind-control aspect of things that many people are talking about? I remember another tv show that worked this angle once (can't remember which, figures) and they had to destroy the tower to make things better for everyone.

Blast away!