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"BB 17 Live Feeds and Spoilers Week 9"

Posted by michel2 on 08-28-15 at 05:55 AM
The week should be interesting...if we can call this show intersting that is.


According to posters at Sucks, the jury challenge was won by Johnny Mac who is back in the game while the competition was won by Vanessa who is the new HoH!


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"RE: BB 17 Live Feeds and Spoilers Week 9"
Posted by kingfish on 08-28-15 at 01:55 PM
I had a suspicion that Jackie would win, but I guess Las Vegas dancer is code for stripper?

"RE: BB 17 Live Feeds and Spoilers Week 9"
Posted by tribephyl on 08-29-15 at 01:48 AM
If the comp had included a pole, i feel...no, I know the outcome would have been vastly different.

"Noms"
Posted by michel2 on 08-28-15 at 06:46 PM
Vanessa nominated James and Meg.

"Veto"
Posted by Jims03 on 08-29-15 at 08:31 PM
Veto Players: Vanessa, James, Meg, Austwins (all of 'em)

Veto Winner: James

(Vanessa's head is about to explode.)


"RE: Veto"
Posted by Jims03 on 08-29-15 at 08:36 PM
To follow-up, I think Vanessa has to put up someone like Julia as the replacement nom. She cannot put up Jmac or Steve.

At this point, I just don't think that Vanessa can trust the Austwins to keep someone like Jmac or Steve over Meg. They chose James/Meg last week, so they will be super-tempted to do it again this week. James has already talked about getting Austin to vote out Steve if he is the replacement nom.

Vanessa has already started floating the idea of using Julia as the pawn, so that might be what she is thinking. I don't think Austin and Liz would take it well. It also opens up the idea of whether Steve and Jmac would get sneaky and take a shot at the Austwins. Either way, it's a sticky spot.


"RE: Veto"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 08-30-15 at 02:34 AM
They'd have to get James to vote her out too to make it work. Steve and Johnny alone don't get Julia out.

"RE: Veto"
Posted by Jims03 on 08-30-15 at 10:18 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-30-15 AT 10:42 AM (EST)

Yeah, but I mean she has to put up Julia as a pawn and just settle for booting Meg this week. It's kind of pointless in a way, but she has to isolate James.

Leaving James/Meg intact is just way too risky for her. Putting up Julia ensures that Austin continues being reliant on Jmac/Steve to keep her. Literally the only downside would be if she seriously annoys the Austwins by doing it. Maybe they would take it poorly... The Austwins are pretty spoiled by now. But it's a pretty minimal risk compared to the risk involved with leaving James/Meg together. Any competent Big Brother player should be able to give the "you are a safe pawn" speech and make them feel comfortable. The plan would work. Steve has made it pretty clear that he wanted Meg out, anyway, so the likelihood of funny business would be pretty low.

Austin has been pretty sneaky so far, coaching James and Meg on what to say to get Vanessa to nominate Jmac. They know James/Meg will go after Vanessa, but they're telling her to tell her they're going after Austwins. I think the strategy is, if they can get every single person in the house suggesting Jmac except Jmac and Steve, she'll do it. It sounds like Vanessa has been leaning that way lately.

Unfortunately, Vanessa got pretty drunk last night on wine (who would blame her, though?) and had a heated HOH convo with James. James actually went up to play nice, but Vanessa was clearly in a combative mood. James was pitching that he would let it be water under the bridge and would go after the Austwins, but Vanessa seemed pretty skeptical about whether it was true. James was also pushing pretty hard for Jmac to go up on the block, which is setting off more alarm bells in Vanessa's head.

I missed this part, but supposedly the Austwins had a convo with Vanessa after the James stuff. And now they're on board with Julia going up as the pawn. Liz actually suggested it. They trust Steve 100% to keep her and they want a public reason why they can't work with James. They also want to build a road with Jmac. I don't think there would be any funny business if they did that, since Steve really does want to get rid of Meg.


"RE: Veto"
Posted by michel2 on 08-30-15 at 12:32 PM
Very interesting stuff, Jims.

Have you heard anything on what Jmac would do if he is the next HoH? It seems obvious that everyone else would go after James while captain camo would go after Vanessa but what would Jmac do now? I guess we will have to wait for his DR scenes because I don't think he would open up even to Steve if he was still going after Vanessa.


"RE: Veto"
Posted by Jims03 on 08-30-15 at 12:49 PM
I believe Jmac and Steve have talked about it a few times, and Jmac has consistently said he would put up the Austwins. Steve has had a few talks with the feedsters recently and have confessed that he also wants to put up the Austwins. The Steve/Jmac/Vanessa sub-alliance is very real right now.

Vanessa needs these two to do her dirty work for her, which is yet another reason why she'd be dumb to sacrifice Jmac this week.


"RE: Veto"
Posted by michel2 on 08-30-15 at 04:09 PM
I said a while back that a Steve/Jmac/Vanessa alliance could be extremely dangerous. It was so long ago that I was even including Becky in that alliance! I'm glad to see it coming around.

"Veto Ceremony"
Posted by michel2 on 08-31-15 at 05:48 PM
James took himself off the block.
Julia is the replacement nom.