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"Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 4: Twistage ahead as well as Endurance?"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 09:58 PM
A twist in the game is promised after tonight's live eviction, and all signs are pointing to an endurance HoH competition: Lots of backyard construction/house lockdown, as well as the hamsters preparing to dress comfortably for the live show...

As before, whatever happens in the live show will be in post #1 or thereabouts, so to not spoil those on the West and beyond...

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"Results from the ECST:"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 10:03 PM
Dominic got evicted 7-1: Daniele was the dissenter.

Dominic's speech was supposed to light a fire under the remaining newbies' collective butts to rise up against the Boomerangs with Daniele... but it was EPIC FAIL, just like the Regulator alliance... who's now down to Lawon.


HoH Competition has everyone but Rachel (outgoing HoH) on 'slalom skis' that are swinging back and forth as they're holding on to ski poles imbedded into the wall. The wall/mountain can lean forward, making it steeper, and they're getting pelted with wind/fake snow...


First 5 off will get to open a snowball, and one of them is worth $10k! The others? Could be good, could be bad...

"First out"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 10:16 PM
Adam/Lawon... No word on what they got in their snowballs, good or bad...
"Dropping like newbies."
Posted by Estee on 07-28-11 at 10:18 PM
Adam & Lawon: already off. No word on prizes/punishments yet.
"RE: Dropping like newbies."
Posted by michel on 07-28-11 at 10:27 PM
Adam dropping is proof that they had to get rid of Duminic.
"Brendon: OUT"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 10:29 PM
No word on what he got either...
"RE: Brendon: OUT"
Posted by michel on 07-28-11 at 10:31 PM
How long before Rachel DRs that Brendon doesn't pull his weight, doesn't protect her by winning HOH?
"RE: Brendon: OUT"
Posted by Estee on 07-28-11 at 10:53 PM
When does the DR open?

One of the questions I had in looking at this setup was 'Are the grips just there for balance, or is everyone partially supporting their weight?' If it's the later, then this rig favored the females.

"RE: Brendon: OUT"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 10:57 PM
I think initially it was for balance, but then some of the 'skis' started to flop and fall and break... which meant they became support handles...
"This much is known"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 10:35 PM
Adam and Lawon didn't get the $10k... and Jeff declared that if Brendon didn't get it either, HE was jumping off to go get it... with Jordan's approval.


Feeds returned, and he's still on there... so maybe Brendon got the $10k?

"$10K: Still up for grabs..."
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 10:40 PM
Adam: Elf for the week!

Brendon: Have Not!

Lawon? Unknown, possibly also Have Not...

"Ladies Night"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 10:45 PM
Jeff's out, only girls remain: Porsche, Jordan, Kalia, Daniele, Shelly...

After Jeff chooses his snowball, only one will remain... and either the one he picks has $10k, or the one that he doesn't will have it...

"RE: Ladies Night"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 10:49 PM
Lawon's confirmed to also be a Have Not... No word yet on what Jeff got, but if he didn't get $10k, there might've been a mass exodus to get it...
"RE: Ladies Night"
Posted by Estee on 07-28-11 at 10:52 PM
Okay, now I like Danielle's odds. She'll try to stay up as long as Jordan's on. After that, it's a question of how much she feels the others are in boomerang pockets. Shelly is the most likely to throw it. Kalia and Porsche need it, but they may not be up to this. Which makes it a two-horse race -- and one horse didn't wear the right saddle.
"Potential Shift in power:"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 10:52 PM
Jordan is OUT and will get the 5th snowball...

Daniele, Kalia, Porsche, and Shelly remain.

"Boomerrang reign ends."
Posted by Estee on 07-28-11 at 10:55 PM
LAST EDITED ON 07-28-11 AT 10:57 PM (EST)

Either a newbie takes this or Danielle gets to pull strings in person -- but either way, expect to see the long fall begin as of about two minutes ago.

Nominee prediction: Brendon & Jeff with their partners on veto standby.

"RE: Boomerrang reign ends."
Posted by cahaya on 07-29-11 at 02:01 AM
Nominee prediction: Brendon & Jeff with their partners on veto standby.

Concur. At least the two squeakiest wheels, one from each pair.

"Porsche: OUT"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 11:14 PM
Jeff did win the $10k, no word on Jordan's 'prize' yet...

Kalia's struggling but is still there, as is a very strong Daniele and Shelly...

"RE: SHELLY: OUT"
Posted by zazzy on 07-28-11 at 11:20 PM
Dani dealing...
"Shelly: OUT"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 11:22 PM
Down to Kalia and Daniele.
"Deals possibly being made"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 11:24 PM
After Shelly's fall, everyone is heading inside to give them the chance to negotiate.
"We have a winner"
Posted by vince3 on 07-28-11 at 11:30 PM
Daniele and Kalia did make a deal: Daniele won the HoH!

Now we get to see who her target truly is of the Boomerangs or others...

"Denielle is revolting!"
Posted by Estee on 07-29-11 at 07:09 AM
She's going to nominate the boomerangs of her choice. (So far, she does seem to be looking at the males.)

She's going to rely on the newbies to protect her.

She doesn't believe in payback.

Of course, when her father was around, she never had to deal with any.

"Historical note."
Posted by Estee on 07-29-11 at 07:31 AM
Should Danielle's Roaring Rampage Of Revenge go as planned (and barring instant U-turn for the departing, she'll get someone), Adam will become one of the very few hamsters to survive a costume week.

I'm sure he's taking comfort in that.

"RE: Historical note."
Posted by zazzy on 07-29-11 at 07:59 AM
Enzo broke the curse.

Dani is calculating who she wants on the jury.

I'd like to see self important misogynistic Brendan go home if Dani targets the vets.

"RE: Historical note."
Posted by michel on 07-29-11 at 06:26 PM

>Dani is calculating who she wants
>on the jury.

Why? She'll be on that jury soon!

"RE: Historical note."
Posted by Round Robin on 07-30-11 at 01:25 AM
That may be, but she has to plan not only for who she wants on the jury, but also for who she wants out so she doesn't have to compete against them later. That will be especially critical next week when she won't be able to compete for HoH and will have to fight for PoV.
"RE: Historical note."
Posted by michel on 07-30-11 at 03:25 AM
>That will be
>especially critical next week...


...and the week after, and the week after...She has about 5 or 6 weeks of being the house's #1 target. If she somehow skates by, then she becomes eveyone's perfect goat to take to the end. To think she was in the perfect position just before Rachel's nominations. How dumb do you have to be to accomplish that?

Calculate all she wants, she cannot win and all because she found Duminic cute...

"RE: Historical note."
Posted by Estee on 07-30-11 at 07:00 AM
...and this time, she doesn't have Dick shielding her from the repercussions.
"'Prize' Tally"
Posted by vince3 on 07-29-11 at 08:47 AM
For the HoH 'Snowballs':

Jeff: $10k
Adam: Elf Suit
Lawon, Brendon, Jordan: Have Nots.

Also, Rachel is back on full slop until Saturday... probably right after the POV... If she saved anything from last week's HoH basket, they might still be allowed, maybe...

"RE: 'Prize' Tally"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 07-29-11 at 10:35 AM
LAST EDITED ON 07-29-11 AT 12:03 PM (EST)

More bad then good in the snowballs. Not sure why Brendan and Jeff dropped out so easily.

"RE: 'Prize' Tally"
Posted by vince3 on 07-29-11 at 11:40 AM
From what I gathered last night Brendon it was a combination of the $10k still there, and that he was hurting. Once Brendon didn't get the $10k, Jeff evaluated his chances against all the girls, and decided that he might have better luck with the snowballs...
"Bonus Items revealed"
Posted by vince3 on 07-29-11 at 05:40 PM
Seaweed and Sardines are available to Brendon, Jordan, and Lawon (as well as Rachel for the next two days, I imagine...) as well as the slop rations...
"Third bonus item."
Posted by Estee on 07-30-11 at 07:05 AM
Insects. While there are edible seaweed items in the kitchen (wraps and such), the pieces used for display were apparently grabbed off the nearest beach and slapped onto the table without any consideration for an in-between cleaning. That meant they arrived with all the happy biting extras you get from lying on a bad patch of sand, with the added comfort of knowing that while you were locked in the backyard, they were infesting the entire cage.

Of course, given the show, that may have been the master plan.

"The Elf costume"
Posted by Rebel Crown on 07-29-11 at 06:02 PM
I've not yet caught up with what's happening in the house due to storms here in Michigan overnight, but here's some pics of Adam wearing his elf costume, courtesy of TVClubhouse:


"RE: The Elf costume"
Posted by kingfish on 07-29-11 at 07:02 PM
His beard matches his hat hair.

And No, that isn't code for anything. As far as I know.

And he lost the point off one of his elfin bootsies.

"RE: The Elf costume"
Posted by cahaya on 07-29-11 at 08:36 PM
He looks more like an orc than an elf to me.
"RE: The Elf costume"
Posted by zazzy on 07-29-11 at 09:48 PM
LOL, I don't think production wanted to look at Adam in a leotard for a solid week!
"RE: The Elf costume"
Posted by zazzy on 07-29-11 at 09:45 PM
I'm guessing that Adam is already thinking about selling this costume on Ebay.
"Nominees are..."
Posted by Estee on 07-29-11 at 09:28 PM
...Brendon & Rachel.

Yes, the tears have already started.

"Run, run away."
Posted by Estee on 07-30-11 at 07:09 AM
From the sound of it, Danielle's nomination speech raised blisters on all exposed surfaces. Set off the fire alarms. Reminded Grodner that she's already spent her medical budget for the decade and no one else even gets a aspirin. And after burning Brendon & Rachel with every red-hot syllable, she decided the next hamster she was going to pay tribute to would be --

-- Ronnie.

She's been hiding in HoH. Just barely pokes her head out, and then only when Kalia & Lawon can play bodyguard. Doesn't want to see anyone, doesn't want to talk, doesn't want to be put in a situation where anyone can ask her 'So did you enjoy destroying your own chances while it was happening, or just as an after-effect?' Just stays curled up behind the lock and waits for the arrival of the camera.

Such a dominating power player.

"RE: Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 4: Twistage ahead as well as Endurance?"
Posted by zazzy on 07-30-11 at 11:15 AM
Watched FB of the Shelly-Kalia discussion from last night. 1:45 am quad cam, some cutaways but hang in for the conversation.

Interesting. Kalia seems like she needs a lot of love/is needy for love.

She tells Shelly that she noticed how no one cheered for her (Kalia) in the endurance challenge and how all of the other group went inside after those they were rooting for fell off.

Shelly remarks that she, Shelly, came back outside to talk/ root? for Kalia and Dani. Kalia blows that off because the story is all about how no one cheered for her (lol).

Discussion goes on about why Kalia is ruffling feathers in the house. Discussion of wine pouring last night and an encounter with Rachael. Shelly tries to help Kalia see how she could have played it differently with Rachael. Kalia not hearing what Shelly's selling.

Shelly is trying to enlighten Kalia about Kalia's piggybacking onto others' cooking or making food, as in will you make me a sandwich, too? Kalia claims she has cooked for others and looks incredulous, mouth open, etc. when Shelly brings this up. Shelly says, well, yes, macaroni and cheese (is that all Kalia has made in the last three weeks?)...but Kalia is not getting it.

Shelly pries into Kalia's background, trying to find out where the sense of entitlement comes from. Asking if she came from wealth.

Kalia says she grew up upper middle class/ family had a pool/ there were rough times when her parents got divorced and we get a WBRB.

Later Kalia talks about being the only black woman in the house and tries to help Shelly understand what that feels like. Something happened when Kalia was in high school and she lost a lot of friends and her mother? said well, they all stick together (I understood this to mean that Kalia had a lot of white friends who she lost when something happened in high school) Kalia goes on to talk about going to Spellman for college and she learned what real friends were, and they happened to be black women.

Shelly asks about Kalia's experiences with prejudice. Shelly pried a lot last night!

Kalia proclaims her love for Dani and how she won't betray Dani, even if that makes her a target next week. She even cries about it. Told Dani she loved her when they were still up on the endurance wall and everyone else was inside.

Kalia has said part of what she has been doing in the BB house was acting but I don't think the crying for Dani when talking with Shelly was acting last night. I think Kalia wanted desperately to be part of an alliance and now feels she has it.

Kalia is not understanding why everyone out of the house loves her and it is so different in the house.

"RE: Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 4: Twistage ahead as well as Endurance?"
Posted by zazzy on 07-30-11 at 11:51 AM
Kalia recounting the Shelly convo right now to Dani in the HOH.

Talking the Diva thing. The entitlement thing.

Disclaiming that she piggybacks onto other people's cooking and asking them to cook some for her, too. Says that's Lawon, not her, and that she's cooked cabbage, tacos, chicken, macncheese, etc.

(LOL, I've seen her do the piggyback thing! She is lacking in self awareness.)

Dani...talking about when PT left no way asked if they are ok, did not ask Kalia, Dani, or Lawon, nobody, but when Cassi left people were concerned how people were feeling.

"RE: Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 4: Twistage ahead as well as Endurance?"
Posted by zazzy on 07-30-11 at 12:00 PM
LOL, Kalia just said there was only so much of her pride that she could eat.

Dani remarked that with Brendan gone it would be the end of the lovers' quarrels, the Bren-Jeff frat house thing, etc., and the house will be different next week.

Kalia feels like everything she says or does is nitpicked on.

"RE: Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 4: Twistage ahead as well as Endurance?"
Posted by Estee on 07-30-11 at 12:29 PM
The main impression I'm getting from all this is that Kalia's lone subject of conversation is herself.
"RE: Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 4: Twistage ahead as well as Endurance?"
Posted by zazzy on 07-30-11 at 12:40 PM
Not only that, but she actually tells Shelly that "we (Kalia and Dani) are the targets next week, etc., etc.

She's one of those players that takes on HOH by proxy. Like she's a co-HOH or something. She projects the danger onto herself when it is really Dani's danger from her noms. Why borrow trouble?

I'm trying to decide if she is narcissistic or if she is just attention starved.

"RE: Big Brother 13 Live Feeds Week 4: Twistage ahead as well as Endurance?"
Posted by Estee on 07-30-11 at 01:32 PM
Awww, why can't it be both?
"POV Players Selected"
Posted by vince3 on 07-30-11 at 04:17 PM
Joining Daniele, Brendon, and Rachel are... Jeff, Adam, and Porsche

Lawon will host.

It's underway.

"RE: POV Players Selected"
Posted by Estee on 07-30-11 at 04:56 PM
The draw's pretty moot here -- the only people who would use it are the ones on the block. Danielle isn't hackdooring anyone that we know of, Adam's not throwing away what little goodwill he's built up, Jeff knows using the veto puts Jordan on the block, and I seriously doubt Porsche cares about anyone who isn't Porsche.

"RE: POV Players Selected"
Posted by michel on 07-30-11 at 06:16 PM
Have you heard any discussion about which half of Brenchel is the preferred target?
"RE: POV Players Selected"
Posted by Estee on 07-30-11 at 06:30 PM
There's been some discussion of getting the frat boy element out of the house, which seems to indicate Brendon -- plus we had some open cheering for Rachel during the competition, and that might be a first. (Also a potential lie, but...) However, Brendon has the Blingie.

The fun question now becomes 'Would he use it to save Rachel and voluntarily fall on his sword?' What does Tru Luv dictate in this situation, or at least the warped version those two semi-enjoy? Because he'll use it on one of them -- but which one may be up in the air.

"RE: POV Players Selected"
Posted by cahaya on 07-30-11 at 10:10 PM
What does Tru Luv dictate in this situation...?

Believe it or not (and this is not quite as off-the-wall as you might think): The tru luv thing to do is not use the Veto.

Consider that if he does use the Veto, whether it is to save himself or to save his tru luv, the house is almost sure to evict the one who is saved. (Not unless someone does something stupid and make avowed enemies of Dani and half of the rest of the house.) Expect Dani to put up a safe replacement. If he saves himself and Rachel goes, he'll get her blame. If he saves Rachel and he goes, he'll get the blame for being stupid enough to put himself out of the game. (If decides to use it, I expect he'll save Rachel.)

If he declines to use it, then he is blameless. It's not quite a Romeo and Juliet suicide pact, as one of them will live to play another day, but it's the closest thing.

"RE: POV Players Selected"
Posted by kingfish on 07-31-11 at 10:31 AM
It is a fun (for us) and interesting (for us) spot for Brendon to be in. I'm not sure that Brendon will snap to the possible nuanced repercussions of whatever decision he makes, but it's fun to see him squirm.

Obviously, his best choice is to ditch the bitch, here and in real life, but something tells me he's not going to.

If he were to make the decision to stay, he might have a chance in the game to go to the end. With the two-vote Brenchel threat blunted for the time being, the others can concentrate on other more immediate threats/annoyances (J&J, Dani, Kalia) for a couple of weeks, and with that respite who knows what will happen. Someone may see him as a non-jury threat, and a great F2/3 partner.

OTOH if Rachel stays, she will probably be put up as soon as possible, her mouth will ensure that.

"RE: POV Players Selected"
Posted by zazzy on 07-31-11 at 11:20 AM
Bren has created a lie that he is going to use the veto on himself and Rach is acting like she is the one who is going home. Not sure what will come from this charade but it fits the story Shelly told Dani yesterday in the HOH room.

And Shelly wants to see Rach go and for Bren to stay. (Any big target to hide behind).

Who knows? Bren may talk himself into actually using the veto on himself. We only have to wait until Monday.

Meanwhile, according to Jokers updaters, Kalia actually said something to Lawon in the HOH like "WE (she and Dani) have been waiting a long time to be HOH and now WE are." Like I said on another post, HOH by proxy.

There has been some scenario talk and Dankal don't know what to make of Shelly. Dani thinks she's shady.

Some discussion of what if Dani would put up( Shelly or Porsche as the replacement nom. Says she is not putting up Jeff or Jordan (but things can change when the DR gets involved). She made a deal with Adam to keep him safe this week and he won't nom her next week. So yeah! We get to see Adam shave that ugly, nasty lookin' beard.

Last night's chatter was about having a bachelor party for Bren and a faux wedding for Bren/Rach. Discussions about making a dress from trash bags, etc. Sounded like the hamsters were getting into the project. More airtime for Bren/Rach.

Assuming Rach is booted...will America vote for her to return? She seems to draw ratings.

"RE: POV Players Selected"
Posted by cahaya on 07-31-11 at 07:30 PM
Assuming Rach is booted...will America vote for her to return? She seems to draw ratings.

Gosh, I hope not. Not so much for my own eyes and ears sake as for the sake of the other House Mates.

"Veto winner: Brendon."
Posted by Estee on 07-30-11 at 06:13 PM
And now the crying is really going to head into overdrive.

"RE: Veto winner: Brendon."
Posted by tribephyl on 07-30-11 at 06:44 PM
His decision will be fun to watch devolve into figuring out whether he believes he's more deserving of remaining in the game or if Rachel is.
If he takes himself off that ultimately leaves Rachel vulnerable. If he takes Rachel off, he's definitely going to be Marcellus'd.
"RE: Veto winner: Brendon."
Posted by vince3 on 07-30-11 at 07:01 PM
LAST EDITED ON 07-30-11 AT 07:04 PM (EST)

Another thing to wonder about is what America's role in the next twist is going to be, and when... because it's possible we're gonna see Revive-A-Hamster, or... Maybe another Coup?

ETA: Also to consider for Brendon: If he takes Rachel off, would Daniele then put up Jeff, and if so, would they want to get rid of Jeff first? As well as... What format will the next HoH be? If it's questions, Rachel would be the better choice of the two of them, since that seems to be her specialty: 3-3 so far...

"RE: Veto winner: Brendon."
Posted by michel on 07-30-11 at 07:38 PM
Brendon has said that they came back because Rachel wanted to do it again. I think he'll give her the veto.
"RE: Veto winner: Brendon."
Posted by kingfish on 07-30-11 at 07:47 PM
Both her choice of word to spell and her inability to spell that simple word (mouisturize?) strengthen my opinion that her question panel wins were just flukes, or that the answers were subliminally implanted in the diary room.

College chemistry major notwithstanding, she is as dumb as a stump.

"RE: Veto winner: Brendon."
Posted by Estee on 07-30-11 at 08:14 PM
Must you insult Jordan like that?
"RE: Veto winner: Brendon."
Posted by kingfish on 07-30-11 at 09:42 PM
A broad brush is definitely needed. A firehose spray would be even better.
"For your entertainment"
Posted by zazzy on 07-31-11 at 09:36 AM

The house rodents are back and telling stories:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PgXCFLmuTs&feature=youtu.be


The funniest one I've seen so far is this one from season 12 when Britney exits--it's long, start at 3:06 for the song about the cast to Pokerface. Hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/user/88BillTCat88#p/c/504F408775A10E87/12/cNZsExdGrIU

"Danielle sneaks a look at the script."
Posted by Estee on 07-31-11 at 06:45 PM
She and Adam were just talking about the possibility of a hamster instant U-turn (Crazy James style) hitting this week. So she knows it's a possibility, but there's nothing she can do to prevent it.

"RE: Danielle sneaks a look at the script."
Posted by tribephyl on 08-01-11 at 02:04 AM
Too bad it's an old script.
"Is Rachel a have-not?"
Posted by newsomewayne on 08-01-11 at 09:04 AM
Why is she sleeping in the have-not room? Is she that attached to Bendon that she won't be separated for the sake of a comfortable bed?

"RE: Is Rachel a have-not?"
Posted by jbug on 08-01-11 at 09:16 AM
I think she had some have-not time left over from before she won hoh; & still has to serve her time after her reign is over.
"RE: Is Rachel a have-not?"
Posted by samboohoo on 08-01-11 at 09:27 AM
But she wasn't a have-not, she was just on slop for 2 weeks.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: Is Rachel a have-not?"
Posted by jbug on 08-01-11 at 09:47 AM
so, she can't let even an uncomfortable bed come between her & her man....
"RE: Is Rachel a have-not?"
Posted by cahaya on 08-01-11 at 06:09 PM
Under, maybe. But certainly not in between!
"VETO"
Posted by samboohoo on 08-01-11 at 03:18 PM
Brendan used it on Rachel. Jordan up. According to Jokers, this was a shock. Dani tells Jordan she's safe.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: VETO"
Posted by cahaya on 08-01-11 at 03:51 PM
A shock? Maybe of the 12-volt variety. The only reason any of the house guests had to be shocked was because of the contradictory mind games being played by Brendon and Rachel.
"RE: VETO"
Posted by tribephyl on 08-01-11 at 04:04 PM
Exactly, up til this morning the story was that Brendon was using it on himself "because he stood a better chance of winning".
So the deal he proposed to Dani would be moot because he lied about the POV.
What kind of game do Brendon and Rachel think they can get away with? We'll lie to you the whole time BUT you can't lie to us ever.
PBlllttt!
Good riddance to, at least, one of them this week. *crosses fingers*
"RE: VETO"
Posted by vince3 on 08-01-11 at 05:02 PM
Beware of Revive-A-Hamster...
"RE: VETO"
Posted by Belle Book on 08-01-11 at 05:13 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-01-11 AT 05:14 PM (EST)

Hopefully, Revive-a-Hamster revives Cassi, so she can get after Rachel and make me a happy camper!

Brendon's a fool to use the POV on Rachel -- but he's a fool for love. Or at least what he thinks is love -- I'd call it something else.


"RE: VETO"
Posted by michel on 08-01-11 at 05:42 PM
Like I said above, coming back on BB was Rachel's idea. Brendon didn't really want to be there in the first place. I'm sure he never even questioned himself on what he would do.
"RE: VETO"
Posted by AyaK on 08-02-11 at 02:28 AM
I agree. I never expected Brendon to do anything other than save Rachel. I think he's willing to go home and wait.
"RE: VETO"
Posted by suzzee on 08-02-11 at 10:47 AM
Nice break for him while the rest of us get punished. Didn't he say he had classes he was delaying for BB? School starts soon, he probably did everything he could to get evicted early and couldn't even get that right until now.


OH NO!

"RE: VETO"
Posted by kingfish on 08-02-11 at 12:40 PM
First or second (or even a odd $5 or $10K challenge win) would go a long way toward paying for those classes.
"RE: VETO"
Posted by axbridge on 08-01-11 at 09:09 PM
And it's hysterical that Brendon and Rachel think that everyone is playing mind games except for themselves. They are the dumbest duo in television history. And the most disgusting.
"RE: VETO"
Posted by michel on 08-01-11 at 10:07 PM
Welcome to the boards axbridge!

Dumbest and most disgusting duo? Maybe, but there is a long list of couples that could challenge that!

"RE: VETO"
Posted by axbridge on 08-02-11 at 09:18 AM
Thanks michel! I realize there are plenty of couples who could challenge that, but I think this is one comp they would win every time. If anyone was gaining on them, Rachel would just give them one of her idiotic laughs and scare them back into second place.
"Welcome from the Sock"
Posted by suzzee on 08-02-11 at 10:49 AM
Welcome to the boards axbridge!


OH NO!

"RE: Welcome from the Sock"
Posted by axbridge on 08-02-11 at 04:11 PM
Thanks suzzee!
"RE: VETO"
Posted by Estee on 08-02-11 at 11:49 AM
I can think of two who were immune to all dirty looks (and falsely believed themselves immune to dirt): Kevin & Natalie. Brendon & Rachel have had brief-but-visible moments of near-humanity. Those two -- not quite.
"RE: VETO"
Posted by zazzy on 08-02-11 at 01:40 PM
Waves Hi to Axbridge! Who's your favorite this season?

"RE: VETO"
Posted by axbridge on 08-02-11 at 04:14 PM
Hi zazzy. My favorite was actually Dominic, then Cassie. Now I hope that Lawon or Danielle take the title. Porsche is too taken with herself, Kalia talks way too much - and not very well either - for me to like her, Adam is just annoying with his tribal grunts, and Shelly is the most insincere player I have ever seen. She is also the biggest a**kisser in BB history.
"RE: VETO"
Posted by zazzy on 08-02-11 at 04:48 PM
There are parts of Shelly's personality that are a big turn off for me, but I think she is playing a great game of BB so far! She has read up on relationship building and deploys her learning like no one since Will in BB2. For example, she knows that people love to talk about themselves and she spends time with most of the hamsters letting them do just that. Next, she flatters/blows smoke up their egos, inflating them and making them feel good about themselves. Lastly, she knows people remember you by how you make them feel.

The one who is most on to her I believe, is Lawon. Shelly does not seem able to spend much time with him even though he is available a lot of the time. For example, when it is just the two of them in the kitchen. *crickets* Lawon knows it and has her number.

On the flip side, she is controlling, judgmental, and I think may have some deep rooted prejudices. I think she is an interesting player to watch, as is Kalia, who I think has tried to act on BB but found it exhausting and some of the real Kalia has been showing up.

I think it was ED who said a couple of weeks ago that people weren't showing their real selves yet...I agree, and that is starting to happen now.

"RE: VETO"
Posted by Belle Book on 08-02-11 at 09:23 PM
My favorite was Cassi, so that's why I hope she returns and takes Rachel down! At least Brendon's going down first.

Shelly's actually playing a pretty good game -- better than I think I could. Let's face it -- I'm not great when it comes to sucking up to people I don't like much. Shelly can, and that makes her a better player. Whether that makes her a better person remains to be seen.

My favorite veteran is Jordan, by default. I wasn't too fond of Daniele in her season but since she's openly against the other Veterans I'm on her side more; I like Jeff but I didn't like his rant on Dumbledore and Rachel & Brendon -- do you have to ask? The two are delusional idiots!


"RE: VETO"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 08-01-11 at 11:58 PM
>Brendan used it on Rachel.
>Jordan up. According to
>Jokers, this was a shock.
> Dani tells Jordan she's
>safe.
>
>
>>"navy"] Samboobree, brought to life
>by Arkie


Putting up Jordan is brilliant. There is no way they will vote her out so Brendon is guarenteed to go.

"RE: VETO"
Posted by tribephyl on 08-02-11 at 00:07 AM
Just desserts for Brendon for lying about how he was gonna use the POV on himself.
He ends up Marcellusing himself out of the game! WooHoo!
"RE: VETO"
Posted by AyaK on 08-02-11 at 02:30 AM
Big difference.

Marcellus thought he was safe. Brendon knows he's gone.

"RE: VETO"
Posted by axbridge on 08-02-11 at 09:20 AM
I'm not so sure AyaK. As DUH as he is - even though he is working on his PhD (smirk), he has an odd way of not seeing things clearly. He may think that Jordan will be voted out. I mean, he IS the greatest player to ever live and only he and Rachel are deserving of being in the house. He loves to remind us of that.
"RE: VETO"
Posted by cahaya on 08-02-11 at 09:56 AM
I think he knew he was toast as soon as Dani won the HoH. When Dani invited the gang to visit her HoH room, Jeff said that visiting Dani's HoH room was like going to “Death Row… not a good place to be.” He saw it coming.
"RE: VETO"
Posted by zazzy on 08-02-11 at 01:39 PM
Yes. He knew he was gone. He planned for best case and worst case scenarios in the game and he is ready to go back to work.

Wonder if he goes into sequester for a day or so and then a Pandora's Box brings him back?

Hmmmm.

Rach wins HOH; there's a Pandora's Box; she takes it; and her true love is behind the door/in the box. That sounds like BB scripting.

Then they reunite to try to get Dani out...only Dani wins the next HOH and gets Brendan out again in a FF HOH.

BB is scripted, right?

"RE: VETO"
Posted by Estee on 08-02-11 at 02:32 PM
The hiring of the WWE scriptwriter may qualify as a subtle hint.

It's rigged as far as the rats can openly push it, but the rigging has been known to at least short-term backfire.

"RE: VETO"
Posted by rayjj on 08-02-11 at 04:08 PM
>Yes. He knew he was
>gone. He planned for
>best case and worst case
>scenarios in the game and
>he is ready to go
>back to work.
>
>Wonder if he goes into sequester
>for a day or so
>and then a Pandora's Box
>brings him back?
>
>Hmmmm.
>
>Rach wins HOH; there's a Pandora's
>Box; she takes it; and
>her true love is behind
>the door/in the box.
>That sounds like BB scripting.
>
>
>Then they reunite to try to
>get Dani out...only Dani wins
>the next HOH and gets
>Brendan out again in a
>FF HOH.
>
>BB is scripted, right?

Oh please oh please let there be a Pandora and Rachel has to reveal Cassie is back, that has HR written all over it!

"RE: VETO"
Posted by zazzy on 08-02-11 at 04:50 PM
HR as in House Rodent?
"RE: VETO"
Posted by axbridge on 08-02-11 at 04:17 PM
It is absolutely scripted. Any doubt I had was removed when the POV was always played ONLY by Jeff, Jordan, Brendon, Rachel, and the newbie who was on the block. No way did that just happen. I am betting that there were no other names in the bag except for the veterans (whom I refuse to call all-stars).
"RE: VETO"
Posted by zazzy on 08-02-11 at 04:37 PM
On the veto names....supposedly Kalia asked to see the names in the bag this week after Jeff was picked, again. All the names were there.

On a separate occasion, I believe Rachel admitted you can feel the writing on the chips when selecting a name. Something a vet would know. ;)

"RE: VETO"
Posted by zazzy on 08-02-11 at 04:39 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-02-11 AT 04:41 PM (EST)

P.S. I always thought there was a side pocket sewn into the bag, or a slip pocket at the bottom of the bag and the DR tells the HOH to pull the chip from there...because in years past it seemed like it took the HOH quite a few seconds to reach in and bring out a chip. Just sayin'.

And Jeffie playing POV in the hot sun = good ratings. He plays but he doesn't win.

Jeffie sitting on the bench just spectating = no eye candy/lower ratings.

"RE: VETO"
Posted by kingfish on 08-02-11 at 07:09 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-02-11 AT 08:09 PM (EST)

That doesn't mean it was overtly scripted. I mean, they just need to to leave Rachel in a room alone with the bag just before the ceremony.

Even a simple minded devious idiot such as she can figure out how to stack the chips within the bag so that she could miraculously pull out the exact names she desired. I think the producers could count on Rachel to cheat if given the chance, and if it wasn't too complicated. Like, oh, I don't know...spelling Mouisturizer, maybe? Or The?

"The Wedding Party"
Posted by Rebel Crown on 08-03-11 at 01:53 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-03-11 AT 02:39 AM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 08-03-11 AT 02:37 AM (EST)

Well, it has arrived. The wedding of the century. I thought it was already held, in England earlier this year, but, apparently Rachel and Brendon know nothing of that (since it didn't happen to them, why would they know about it?) Pictures courtesy of TVClubhouse -

The bride - (You decide which one that is)

The groom -

The Best Man -

The bridesmaids and ring bearer -

For more pics of the event, go here -
http://www.tvclubhouse.com/forum/messages/10972/9208132.html?1312352898

I do know that Danielle wore white to tick off Rachel, but I don't think Rachel even noticed it. And Lawon, in the HOH robe, was the star as the minister.

Now I'm off to read about what else has happened throughout the day. I'll update this post if need be.


"RE: The Wedding Party"
Posted by Estee on 08-03-11 at 06:34 AM
And ABC would like to thank Brendon for the free promotion. (It would be the first reality show wedding they'd managed in years.)
"The honeymoon"
Posted by Rebel Crown on 08-04-11 at 02:21 AM
...didn't last very long.

Around 4 p.m. BB time, Rachael heard that Danielle gave a shout out in her blog to Shelly's daughter. That made Shelly cry. But everyone agreed it was not done maliciously and Shelly even said she was okay. Apparently, Rachael disagreed and had a hissy fit. She stormed into the DR, demanding to know why Danielle can do certain things and she cannot. The DR told her to talk to Danielle about it. So, Rachael then proceeds to storm her way into the HOH and "ask" Danielle. Danielle, of course, isn't happy with this invasion. Words were exchanged, then Rachael goes on a crying jag. For hours.

Porsche told her not to keep moping around. That set off another round.

It is now about 10 p.m. BB time. Rachael is STILL in tears, Brendon tryng to calm her down by demanding that she visits the psychiatrist, and, if that doesn't work, that she DOR when he goes out the door on Thursday. (My dream scenario!)

In other news, the CBS web page had an "America's Choice" up prematurely, saying we would have a choice between the first 4 HGs and the most recent evictee (next week, not this week). The 4 pics included Brendon. The page is gone now but here's what it looked like:



Over at TVC, the votes are divided between Dom and Cassie, with a few going for Keith. No one mentioned Brendon.

"RE: The honeymoon"
Posted by cahaya on 08-04-11 at 02:52 AM
Good catch.

At least that puts ED out of the running.

My first choice would probably be Dominic, with Keith next.

"RE: The honeymoon"
Posted by Estee on 08-04-11 at 07:49 AM
with Keith next

Who in the house did you feel needed sexual harrassment that badly?

"RE: The honeymoon"
Posted by cahaya on 08-04-11 at 09:40 AM
Well, it'll give Rachel that much more incentive to want to leave. Then he can go.

That's how bad the choices are. I certainly wouldn't want to see Brendon's return, and Cassi is totally meh. Keith is entertaining, at least, even if not quite for the right reasons. I expect Dominic would dominate the vote and he would get mine.

"RE: The honeymoon"
Posted by Estee on 08-04-11 at 08:05 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-04-11 AT 08:28 AM (EST)

It's nice to see that CBS still can't do anything right with this show.

Naturally, the news of Rachel's latest breakdown sent me to the HoH blog page to find Danielle's entry. And because CBS can do nothing right, it wasn't up yet. (What was I thinking?) I wanted to see exactly what Danielle had said which might have set Rachelle off. Not that she needed to say or do anything, but, y'know, just for the historical record.

The better question might be 'What was Rachel not allowed to say?' Shout-out to her workplace? The show probably locks out any business promotion which they can't get commercial money for. Family member? Now we're bordering on ridiculous, but with Grodner in charge... Demanded an editor? They should have given her that one.

But the point's ultimately moot. Rachel went off because she's upset about Brendon leaving and any excuse to cry would do. More to come.

ETA: After searching around, Rachel accused Danielle of using the shout-out to emotionally manipulate Shelly. (There were also hints that the DR told her to start something.) Is it possible that Danielle was going for that? Sure: her father has taught her well. But it could have been an honest moment -- and the DR always wants the screams.

"RE: The honeymoon"
Posted by zazzy on 08-04-11 at 04:27 PM
World according to Rachael, who has been HOH 2x her first season and 2x in this season: Thou shalt not do any shout outs whatsoever. Shout outs denied. Forbidden. Nada.

World according to Dani: I've been HOH 2x in my season and I could always do shout outs. I'm sick of you, get out of my room.

World according to Rachael: you lie, you are just saying you did a shout out to emotionally manipulate Shelly and that's just wrong. (Bubble over Rachael's head: Unfair! Unfair! BB is so Unfair to me! And I have a headache from the champagne that BB got for our trash bag wedding last night)

World according to Dani: (bubble over her head: get the F our of my room or I'll throw you out) storms down to the outside and tells Shelly she did not do it for manipulation.

World according to Rachael: DR! Wah! Unfair! Wah!

World according to "Brennan": I F-ing hate production! (DOR with me tomorrow so I can get....)

World according to Rachael: Big meltdown. I am nothing. I ruin everything. I am ruining your life. Wah! Sob! Wah!

World according to DR: Whose idea was it to have Rachel return? Oh. that's right, ratings. And ratings = job security. Calling Dr. Z!

World according to Dr. Z: Rachel? Again? You have got to be kidding me. I'm charging extra for the night call. Ratings are up. You can afford it.

----

To be fair, I would be mad, too, if I were told explicitly that I could NOT do shout outs and there Dani, the BB villain is, doing shout outs! Ah, but life is not fair.

I only caught a smidgen of an earlier conversation in the hammock, but Rach and Brendan think only THEY are there to win the 500k. How dare Shelly or Adam or Jeff want to win the big prize? Oh, the hubris.

"RE: The honeymoon"
Posted by Belle Book on 08-04-11 at 04:36 PM
I'm voting for Cassi, with Dominic second in my personal ratings. I don't want Keith back and Brendon can just stay far, far away!


"RE: The honeymoon"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 08-04-11 at 08:16 PM
I expect that producers will elect to revive Dominic IF Danielle is NOT on the block and predicted to go next week. They would want to reunite the two and have two factions with some numbers in the house.

If Danielle is voted out and it's her OR Dom, he is still a strong competitor but less golden for them, and the Cassi v. Rachel pairing might also appeal to them, plus they will tell Cassi to up her grooming and dress if she goes back, lol.

Personally I wouldn't have minded seeing the two couple vets make it to the point where they went at it tooth and nail.

CBS likes to return underdogs or pot-stirrers, and they love drama. The newbies are horribly boring so in spite of the barf bag stock getting a big boost from Brenchel, at least the duo gives them footage, fights, and tearfests.

I agree that America's votes are a good source of texting revenue for the sponsor, and that's about all they're good for.

"Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by Estee on 08-04-11 at 08:16 AM
Now that we know we've got Revive-A-Hamster in play, we have to start looking at jury formation. This week brings us down to nine. Next week would send the first hamster to the sequester villa. But -- bring someone back in, and what happens to the departing rodent? Why aren't they an option on the poll: vote for the unknown? They're not guaranteed a jury spot because getting a returnee puts us back at nine. This smells -- familiar. (And still stinks.)

I think what's going to happen here is another repeat. Right after next week's eviction, the hamsters will be told they have one more vote: they can take the Mystery Houseguest whom America just voted back in, or they can have their most recent evictee back. With about ten seconds to think it over. And then the scramble will begin...

I can pretty much guarantee Rachel will vote for the Mystery Houseguest. How could America not love her Buki!

...America just came between her and her man. Fear.

"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by ARnutz on 08-04-11 at 09:39 AM
...and what happens to the departing rodent? Why aren't they an option on the poll: vote for the unknown?

From the graphic, it seems the 5th bootee gets an automatic bid to go up against one of the first 4, which is voted on in the poll.

"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by frankz on 08-04-11 at 10:42 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-04-11 AT 10:50 AM (EST)

That’s the way I read it too. The 5th bootee goes up against whomever America picked from the first 4. How they compete is the question. Either, as Estee suggested, the hamsters get to pick or there is some kind of competition between the two.

ETA - If they get to pick, they won't know for whom America voted. JMHO

"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by Estee on 08-04-11 at 10:50 AM
*nods* I'm not reading 'compete' as a direct challenge match: just a chance to have the cage vote on you a second time. A direct challenge match would have been more of an original idea (barely), and this season is all about cut-and-paste.
"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by cahaya on 08-04-11 at 10:56 AM
It all comes down to the word "battle". Now, that could be a battle of House votes or a battle in competition or a battle of wills.

"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by Estee on 08-04-11 at 10:58 AM
Or a battle to see who Grodner wants most. People are already openly doubting the America poll votes will count.
"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by frankz on 08-04-11 at 12:20 PM
People are already openly doubting the America poll votes will count.

You are kidding. Right?

"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by Estee on 08-04-11 at 12:29 PM
No. Remember, BB doesn't have to operate under game show law. They can collect the text fees, call it an advisory opinion, and then happily pick the hamster who'll start the most fights.
"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by vince3 on 08-04-11 at 12:47 PM
...and they hired a WWE script writer this past off-season...

On the note of who would start the most fights, that would probably be either Brendon (especially if Rachel's still inside...) or Keith (just for squick factor... especially Porsche's)

"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by frankz on 08-04-11 at 03:44 PM
I take it you missed the sodden sarcasm.
"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by Estee on 08-04-11 at 04:17 PM
No, I just choose to indulge it.

"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by frankz on 08-04-11 at 04:30 PM
You've always known how to work me.

"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by axbridge on 08-04-11 at 10:08 AM
Buki schmuki. I am so sick of these two I can't stand it. I want Brendon out of there post haste just so I don't have to listen to him talk about "my fiancee" any more. Those two make me want to hurl. They are totally unlikeable. Oh, and gross too.
"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by frankz on 08-04-11 at 10:47 AM
Pukey is more appropriate.
"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by suzzee on 08-04-11 at 04:13 PM
It's the home version of slop. Thank you may we have some more


OH NO!

"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by axbridge on 08-04-11 at 04:54 PM
>Pukey is more appropriate.

LOL Right you are!


"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by zazzy on 08-04-11 at 04:42 PM
Was that season 9? Otherwise I don't recall the house getting to vote between a revive a hamster or a recently booted one.

HOH room, couple of days ago: Dani to Kalia: I had a dream...and goes on to describe a competition among formerly booted houseguests, etc.

What a way she has with slipping the ol' DR supplied info out among the hamsterverse.

"RE: Season #9 reruns continue."
Posted by Estee on 08-04-11 at 04:58 PM
Was that season 9? Otherwise I don't recall the house getting to vote between a revive a hamster or a recently booted one.

Yes: the Season Of The Wanna-Be Drug Ring Plus Joshuhag. A proud year for casting agencies everywhere.