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"Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by vince3 on 08-12-10 at 09:03 PM
As we left the hamsters on week 5's ECST, they were trying to navigate through a rope maze through a rope net... while getting feathers and rain/wind on top of them... as well as mud and hay to deal with...

Rachel became our first Juror, Ragan has another week as Stabo to survive to win $20K, and Matt's Diamond POV will have its last chance to be used on the live Eviction show... which makes it practically another Coup.

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"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 08-12-10 at 09:24 PM
Are there no live feeds?
"Feeds back."
Posted by Estee on 08-12-10 at 09:24 PM
Brendon in the lead.

One Jokers member is saying the Meows planned on letting Brendon win (probably figuring he'd target Britney, Ragan, and Kathy before them), and if so, they're doing a pretty convincing job. But the ones outside that alliance are even further back right now: Lane's second, then Hayden, and then we enter a vast realm known as 'forget it'.

Of course, with the Blingie in play, it doesn't matter what Brendon does here, except to his immediate family. Any non-Meow HoH is automatically a joke with a singularly pointless punchline we all know and are heartily sick of: 'so much for that plan...'

Watch Matt try to nominate an HoH Brendon with the Blingie just to see if it works.

"RE: Feeds back."
Posted by vince3 on 08-12-10 at 09:34 PM
I take no pleasure in the fact that I called that being our theme at the end of Week 1... but this year more than ever is been a fine example of that phrase...
"RE: Feeds back."
Posted by kingfish on 08-12-10 at 09:35 PM
Matt, the diabolical evil genius will hit upon the ultimate plan to use the blingie and name himself as a pawn, thereby demonstrating to the world what brilliance really is.


I'm beginning to figure Matt out, and that makes me an evil diabolical genius too, I believe.

"RE: Feeds back."
Posted by Snidget on 08-12-10 at 09:37 PM
If evil diabolical genius means delusional...
"RE: Feeds back."
Posted by kingfish on 08-13-10 at 08:26 AM
Do not make me use my evil and very diabolical genius on you.
"Brendon wins HoH."
Posted by Estee on 08-12-10 at 09:32 PM
Raise your hand if you think Rachel had any chance of taking that competition.
"Kill.Me.Now."
Posted by Snidget on 08-12-10 at 09:36 PM
Even if that means I won't know who wins SYTYCD.
"New reality show now auditioning."
Posted by Estee on 08-12-10 at 09:51 PM
So You Think You Can Kill Snidget
"RE: New reality show now auditioning."
Posted by Snidget on 08-12-10 at 09:56 PM
If only you'd have killed me BEFORE the Extra Special Super Secret Guest on tonight's Finally.
"Total guess."
Posted by Estee on 08-12-10 at 10:03 PM
Paula?
"RE: Total guess."
Posted by vince3 on 08-12-10 at 10:06 PM
If what I saw on the front page was any indication? Close, but not quite.... Ellen
"But..."
Posted by Estee on 08-12-10 at 10:09 PM
...I don't think she can dance.
"RE: Total guess."
Posted by Snidget on 08-12-10 at 10:06 PM
Close.
"RE: Brendon wins HoH."
Posted by vince3 on 08-12-10 at 09:36 PM
Probably not, but we may get close to Chima Bomb levels of frustration by Brendon when Matt whips out the Diamond POV next Thursday to save whoever needs saving...
"RE: Brendon wins HoH."
Posted by Estee on 08-12-10 at 09:43 PM
That only happens if the Meows go up -- and I can't see them as being on Brendon's radar: he's so clueless about that alliance that he may consider their own reveal to be a lie. They'll happily let him nominate anyone outside their pack and run the cage to his satisfaction -- only to finish him off as soon as his term ends.

If he goes Britney, Ragan, Kathy (any two with the third on veto backdoor), he can indulge his delusion for the whole week: the Blingie will never come into play. But catch on, and he's screwed.

"RE: Brendon wins HoH."
Posted by vince3 on 08-12-10 at 09:51 PM
I don't think he will aim for the other three Brigade members... but Matt? Is a definite possible nomination candidate...

I think that the other nomination will either be Ragan or Britney, probably....

"The new Jokers status banner."
Posted by Estee on 08-12-10 at 09:50 PM
http://a.imageshack.us/img201/5110/newhoh.png
"Have Nots are"
Posted by vince3 on 08-12-10 at 10:04 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-13-10 AT 10:01 AM (EST)

Matt, Ragan, and Britney... who are the most likely to be the nominations, as well... Brigade is planning to try to put Ragan/Britney on the block, and Matt is at least telling them that it might be best for the non-nominated of the three of them to win the POV to save one of them...

Personally, Matt probably doesn't care what happens this week. If he happens to be on the block Thursday night, he whips out the blingie/Diamond POV and will put Kathy or maybe the non-nominated Ragan/Britney back on, if possible...

I almost thought that he would be doomed if he was on the block and Kathy won the POV, saving one of Ragan/Britney, which might force him to put up a Brigade member if Brendon was safe because he's HoH, Kathy would be safe by winning the POV, and whoever Kathy pulled off would also be safe.... but whoever wasn't Brigade on the block would just get an at worst 3-2 heave-ho...

"Have-nots are:"
Posted by Estee on 08-12-10 at 10:08 PM
Matt, Britney, Ragan. Which pretty much gives you Brendon's targets for the week. He's not exactly subtle.

Britney's crying. I don't know if it's the karma, the slop, or the prospect of spending a week with Rachel.

"Brendon's idea of 'subtle'."
Posted by Estee on 08-12-10 at 10:30 PM
What if he's trying to make Kathy feel safe? No have-not status to turn her towards security, and then it's Vengeance For The Open Celebration. The Meows will happily let that one go through as long as Matt stays off the block.

Potentially amusing prospect of the week: Matt goes on the block, fails to get the veto, and his own alliance tells him they're letting him go because they just don't trust him enough. Unlikely unless it's Adopt-A-Brendon week, but it would be mildly fun to watch -- if Matt wasn't temporarily invulnerable.

"The (current) Plan According To Enzo."
Posted by Estee on 08-12-10 at 10:42 PM
From what Brendon's apparently told him, it goes like this:

1. Nominate Britney and -- surprise! -- Lane.
2. Play Veto.
3. Anyone other than Britney saves Lane. Britney presumably saves herself.
4. Use the backdoor slot to put Ragan up.
5. Vote out your favorite!

If this turns into Britney vs. Lane, then Meow votes kick in and Britney goes home: Matt keeps the Blingie in his pocket unless hi Genius just forces him to make a move. Britney vs. Ragan... Lane wants to keep Britney around a little longer and Ragan doesn't have enough enemies to take him completely off the jury threat list: out he goes. Ragan vs. Lane and the Meow votes carry the day again -- no 20K for you.

If Matt does do something, it's to save Lane. Assume he stays Meow-solid all the way and barring very weird veto scenarios, one of Ragan & Kathy goes up. Kathy vs. Britney is probably a loss for Britney -- get rid of the demonstrated challenge risk.

A quote from Britney: "He doesn't care as long as its one of us, any of us is as good as the other. I wanted him to be miserable this week. I wanted nobody to talk to him, nobody to laugh at his stupid jokes. Instead everyone will be hanging out with him laughing, freaking disgusts me." Just imagine how she'll feel if she's the next one in the jury house. She's said Brendon deserves to be miserable, but he's at least a few days postponed from it.

And Ragan? Crying in the Have-not room.

Enzo just told Brendon about Britney and Ragan crying, then passed on that neither one was going to talk to him because they didn't want to be fake. Brendon's approximate response: "Why are they going to stop now?"

Ugliness, already in progress.


"Because he's evil, that's why."
Posted by Estee on 08-12-10 at 10:46 PM
Brendon's first post-HN-assigning acts as HoH:

1. Unclog the shower drain.
2. Tell Kathy he'll be doing dishes tonight.
3. Sweep up the hay tracked in from the competition.

Kind of makes you look forward to Kathy's explanation on how all this makes him the devil.

"RE: Because he's evil, that's why."
Posted by Round Robin on 08-13-10 at 01:23 AM
I think Brendon will go Britney & Kathy with his noms, then if neither of them wins the PoV the noms will stand. If one of them does win the PoV and come down off the block, Ragan will go up.
"'Could it be we went a little too far?'"
Posted by Estee on 08-13-10 at 08:22 AM
Ehhh... could be...

Britney is on the verge of wondering if karma rose up to take her down after all the things she said about Brendon and Rachel, openly admitting that she pushed things past where they should have gone just because they got to her so. Ragan, on the other hand, knows he's being punished for his DR comments, his eviction comments, his actions during the competitions, possibly his sabotage and, to use the term he's been reserving for himself, for turning into a douche. Ragan has spent a lot of time crying and hating himself for it because he hates players who cry and now? That's him. It's a misery contest in the Have-Not room: winner gets to spend a week with Rachel.

(For the record: they both went up to Brendon's HoH reveal, but just sat on the bed quietly and left fairly quickly.)

As noted earlier, Brendon isn't exactly storming the house in a fury of vengeance: he read out his letter from his sister, was glad he got a picture of Rachel, and talked about possible plans with the Meows minus Matt. (The Meows, BTW, are still nervous -- especially Enzo, who sees Lane as too close to Britney and Matt as paired with Ragan. He's actually halfway talking himself into liking Brendon, probably in the name of reinforcements.) Initial nominations are still too much in flux to call solidly, but Brendon's afraid of an initial Britney-Ragan pairing because Matt could win veto and pull one of them off. The Kathy Preservation Society (motives unknown) is still in existence, and it keeps adding members -- but for now, Brendon may be halfway thinking for himself. With a lot of advice from Enzo, who can think for everyone. Scientists included.

Kathy is doing her usual slither-in with the current HoH, warning Brendon not to cry over his pictures like Ronnie did. (Brendon's response: "I'm a man. I'll do it in the bathroom.") Matt is playing up the I'm-at-risk angle for all he's worth, which likely means the smirk didn't even leave his face when he fell asleep. Hayden's completely safe --

-- and Ragan has announced his plans to sleep through the entire week.

The show's doing really well in the outpay department this year.

"RE: 'Could it be we went a little too far?'"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 08-13-10 at 09:06 PM
I think Brendon should go after Britney. She's going to win the quiz type comps now that Rachel is gone. Lane is a good idea for the pairing.

I don't usually watch the Showtime, but last night I checked it for HOH news. When I tuned in, Britney was telling Hayden how she just wants to be in the house with all nice people, meaning all but Brendan, and doesn't want to leave.

Hayden was not helping to cheer her up. He told her the jury house would be great, she would be treated like a princess. She was clearly distressed, not what she wanted to hear, reiterated she wants to keep playing.

A moment before she was pretending she isn't really playing, just wants to hang out, but Hayden called her on that -- if you like hanging out, you can do that on jury. (With Rachel, lol)

"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by vince3 on 08-13-10 at 09:03 PM
Brendon has told Britney that she was gonna be nominated... Soon afterwards, he got summoned to the DR and got some kind of warning or somesuch, because he had to come out and apologize/take back what he said...

He still apparently wanted to nominated Britney/Lane... They had to re-do something because of that goofup...

"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by michel on 08-13-10 at 09:52 PM
How can nominating Lane and Britney serve to avenge Rachel??? Wasn't that his stated goal? With Enzo, those two are the only ones Rachel half-liked. To get revenge for her, he should nominate two of Matt, Kathy, Hayden and Ragan.
"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 08-13-10 at 09:59 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-13-10 AT 10:01 PM (EST)

I don't understand. Is there a rule against telling a nominee in advance?
Brendon's slim hope is that he continues to win comps. The best revenge is to stay in the game, so he should get rid of veto comp queen Britney. Who was meaner to Rachel should be irrelevant to his decision.

As for who was worse to Rachel -- from my perspective, a person who acts like a friend and then turns his or her back is a worse enemy than someone who never pretended to like me.

ETA, Lane is a pawn. If Britney comes off the block, Brendon can always put Ragan up. Putting Lane up is the best way to point the house to a Britney eviction.

"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by michel on 08-14-10 at 02:31 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-14-10 AT 02:34 AM (EST)

"veto comp queen Britney"

Really??? If you were Brendon, you'd be afraid of Britney's challenge abilities over yours? Isn't he the strong, athletic guy??

"from my perspective, a person who acts like a friend and then turns his or her back is a worse enemy than someone who never pretended to like me."

But from Brendon's perspective, the only one that should count, he's too dumb to see that the guys are forming an allliance. How do you expect he would see that Britney was only pretending to be friendly? Anyway, Ragan, Hayden and Kathy all pretended to like them and Kristen really did like Rachel.

No, Brendon would nominate (ETA: or backdoor since nominations are already in) Britney for his own personal reasons. Not for his game, not for avenging Rachel but only because she made him look like the fool he really is.

"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 08-14-10 at 04:25 AM
Britney is the one who knows all about how BB works, what comps there will be, what things she needs to memorize, how people will answer questions. Didn't Brendon pick her as most underestimated?

There will be more comps that involve game memory coming up, and I think Britney is very capable of winning them.

They count the numbers, how many vetoes ... she's won the last two, has she not? Did the guys thing Rachel had superior athletic skills? No, they just saw she had won two HOH's and that made her scary.

I think they count who has won what, and Britney is a threat, as is Matt. But Matt spazzes out on stuff involving counting, or says he does, whereas Britney always has her head in the game.

"Nominations are in"
Posted by vince3 on 08-13-10 at 11:17 PM
and they are: Ragan/Lane
"RE: Nominations are in"
Posted by Round Robin on 08-14-10 at 01:36 AM
What the eff is Brendon trying to pull, a backdoor job? If it is, I'd backdoor Britney, but who do yunz thnk he'll backdoor, if he does?
"RE: Nominations are in"
Posted by vince3 on 08-14-10 at 04:55 AM
Who knows what is in his head, but if he truly wants to try to avenge Rachel? Maybe one of the two pepole that put him and Rachel up together: Hayden or Matt, both Brigade members, as is Lane...

It's entirely possible that he may stumble into revealing the Brigade, but even if he does, his plan will go up in smoke because of Matt's Diamond POV...

"RE: Nominations are in"
Posted by LFJ on 08-14-10 at 05:35 AM
On BBAD, Ragan and Britney were in the HN's room. Britney was "comforting" a weeping Ragan. He literally had tears streaming down his face. He wondered how he would survive being locked in the jury house with, first Rachel, adn then, Brendon. Britney did what she always does - pretended to care while painting her nails, and at intervals, blowing on them. She reassured Ragan that POV would save him. Whatever the POV competition was, Britney declared, it would be something more physical than mental, because the producers had gotten signs together with the hamsters names on them to set up in the BY.

Everyone else, including Lane, were sitting at the kitchen table having dinner together. They all appeared to be pretty cool with one another.

The guys were chowing down and talking. Kathy was the only one who seemed just slightly out of her confort zone. And even she was more than civil with Brendon.

Brendon seemed very relaxed.

Later, Lane was called to the DR, while Haydon, Enzo and Matt had gathered in the HOH room, sans Brendon. When Lane finished his DR session, he joined them there. Enzo proceeded to make everyone laugh, as per usual.

This was at about 12:30- 1o am, EST.

"POV Competition Players"
Posted by vince3 on 08-14-10 at 02:45 PM
are Brendon, Ragan, Lane, Enzo, Hayden, and Kathy

Britney will host, Matt is either audience or Britney's assistant...


Speaking of Matt, Enzo/Hayden were seen talking that if it somehow becomes Lane/Matt, they would VTE Matt... which is very moot because of the Diamond POV, but still... cracks may be forming in the Brigade...


Oh, and they seem to be out of fish food, because Kathy doubled their meals after about 4 of them perished early in the season...


Julie did say that the HoH would be 'free from the threat of eviction' as usual on Thursday, so Matt can't use the Diamond POV for the ultimate coup wipeout of Brendon... but he can certainly ruin whatever plans that Brendon does have...

"POV Competition is over"
Posted by vince3 on 08-14-10 at 03:50 PM
Your winner is....... Ragan!


Now things can get very interesting... Someone is gonna go up to replace him... Who will it be? Kathy, Britney, Matt, or Hayden? (Not including Enzo because he seems to be Brendon's new alliance partner...)


The one thing to worry about, though... is Ragan now immune to the Diamond POV as Brendon is? If not, he might still be in deep trouble...

"I'm confused"
Posted by Snidget on 08-14-10 at 06:43 PM
Not sure what is going on, and joker's says it keeps going to bubbles.

Sounds like Brendon got a Pandora's box and sounds like he might be out of the house, while Rachel is back in for 24 hours?

"RE: I'm confused"
Posted by vince3 on 08-14-10 at 07:23 PM
Now that could be torture to all parties involved, outside of maybe Rachel...

He leaves the cage, but can't see her because she enters in his place? That could be heartbreaking to him... and maybe a little to her...

Until she realizes she's got a 24 tourture her evictors pass, basically... and more than likely, she gets to stay in HoH one final time...

For the rest of the cage? As if they weren't already ticked at Brendon... and they can't exactly strike back with full venom because first she will partially control the final winner, and second is whoever else compose the jury will have to put up with her in 'Paradise'/Jury House the remainder of the game...

"RE: I'm confused"
Posted by Estee on 08-14-10 at 07:53 PM
So far, the biggest joy is listening to Britney scramble for an explanation on her goodbye message, which currently works out to 'I said something really nice and they edited it to be mean.' Good luck selling that -- but Rachel does so love to shop.

All I can get between the bubbles is that Rachel has to ask some questions before she gets any chance of seeing Brendon: she's not back in the game as a player.

This was the first BB news I saw in daylight. The daylight didn't help.

"Britney, Queen Of Rats."
Posted by Estee on 08-14-10 at 08:05 PM
She just told production to turn off the feeds so she could say something.

They did.

"RE: Britney, Queen Of Rats."
Posted by Wacko Jacko on 08-15-10 at 01:09 AM
Rachel is back!

Brenden had another Pandora's box. Opened it and Rachel is now back but Brenden is gone.

This is only for 24 Hours. Everyone in the mean time is kissing Rachel's butt again. Britney says the farewell speech Rachel saw was edited to make her look bad. That she thought her speech was very nice.

"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by Fishercat on 08-15-10 at 02:34 AM
Here is the short version of what's happened since Rachel came back: ##### flies.

The slightly longer version is that everyone is an idiot (and Ragan won veto prior to that)

Rachel tries to get in a fight with Ragan, and Ragan shuts her down to the point where the people who hate him agree that he won the argument.

Ragan is sulking and made sure to take his veto around with him for some reason

Britney tried to explain away her message, and while it seems likely Big Brother did ##### with the messages (Lane, Enzo, and Hayden all said something about the Brigade in their messages and none of it showed up), it's not really working.

Lane decided to deride Britney for no reason and effectively raise suspicion and sever ties in an alliance WHILE HE'S ON THE BLOCK FOR EVICTION

Enzo is creating a huge storm of fury right now because Britney accused him of being the saboteur...even though he's done more accusing and suspicions than anyone else in the house.

Kathy has decided it's a good idea to hide in Rachel's butt for twenty four hours, because we all know she doesn't do anything else.

Matt may be getting suspicious of the brigade finally, and Hayden seems to want to ditch Matt despite the fact that he's STILL the only Brigade member to win an individual challenge.

This house makes Jessie look good.

"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by LFJ on 08-15-10 at 05:31 AM
Karma's a #####, ain't it?

I caught a few minites of BBAD at around 2:30. Britney was doing a BAAAAD job of trying to explain herself. Lane and Ragan had their knickers in a twist, and Matt was wearing his black and while jammies with feet. I didn't see his Teddy Bear.

Enzo was angry, but I couldn't make out exactly why - I missed that part. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't side with Brendon, now, and let the rest of the house implode. THAT would be amusing.

"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by Puffy on 08-15-10 at 12:41 PM
Rachel's in the kitchen, cutting vegetables. Someone on jokers posted:

"I've never understood why BB doesn't given them at least one good sharp/chef's knife"

Ack!!!!!!!!!!!!



Courtesy of the Cap'n


"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by Snidget on 08-15-10 at 01:11 PM
How soon people forget that whole sharp knife held to someone's throat thing from what was it season 2?

I'm surprised they don't make sure everything in the house is cut up in pieces before the rats put it in the fridge.

"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by vince3 on 08-15-10 at 07:53 PM
Yeah, season 2, now 9 years ago...

They only break out the good knives for special meals, like celebration/prize ones...

"So when will BB Sunday's show be on."
Posted by Snidget on 08-15-10 at 08:03 PM
Seeing as I switched over and it is Golf in overtime at 8 pm...so and I'm sure they'll show 60 minutes first.

You'd think TAR was on tonight.

"RE: So when will BB Sunday's show be on."
Posted by vince3 on 08-15-10 at 08:12 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-15-10 AT 08:17 PM (EST)

Looks like a little more than an hour from now. We have a winner.

"RE: So when will BB Sunday's show be on."
Posted by Snidget on 08-15-10 at 08:15 PM
That was a weird final hole.
"RE: So when will BB Sunday's show be on."
Posted by vince3 on 08-15-10 at 08:18 PM
Both as the last hole in regulation, and then the last hole of the 3-hole aggregate playoff...
"Alison Grodner shoots Britney in the foot."
Posted by Estee on 08-15-10 at 11:09 PM
That wasn't Britney's goodbye message -- or at least, it wasn't filmed at the same time as the others. Hamsterwatch checked the clothing: Britney filmed that little rant on the night of Rachel's last major fight as a player. So there's a chance someone in the DR asked 'What would you say to her as a farewell right now if you knew it would never be shown?', then took the printable parts and remixed.

Gosh, it's nice to see all the aspiring wrestling scripters getting intern work.

"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by Estee on 08-16-10 at 02:43 PM
Scale of 0 to -10: quantified in production integrity, how badly do they want Matt going up today? The rats (and especially the head rat) need to see one of their precious twists go through, Brendon's coming around on the contestant they deliberately sabotaged and probably won't put her up, Ragan's fears now have him thinking breaking up the perceived threesome (Lane, Enzo, Hayden) is the worst thing to do... (He wants Brendon out, of course. Because an alliance isn't scary. Because he isn't sure he can win HoH. But mostly because he's afraid of everything in the world, plus he gets to take extra revenge on Rachel.) And Brendon can't even see a threesome.

That doesn't leave a lot of options. If Britney is saving herself -- if the one who's turned out to be the hyperfan can move within the game well enough to protect her presence after that bullet to the foot -- then the replacement nominee has to be Matt.

Matt, whom Enzo doesn't trust any more: he and the other Meows pretty much kicked him out of the alliance last night. Put up Matt, and there's enough Meow votes plus Britney to ensure Lane stays. Smirk Boy would head out the door --

-- if not for the latest stupid twist.

So how hard is the DR pushing Matt onto the block? How badly do they really want Britney gone? Just what did those latest script revision pages say?

Thursday? Is going to be ugly.

"Bingo."
Posted by Estee on 08-16-10 at 03:25 PM
Matt's up.

Britney is going home.

From Jokers, with some reconstruction attempt edits. My italics added for emphasis:

'Matt pulls Hay into the CR and tells him he's sure that there's a power out there that can change things.

He says he doesn't have it, but thinks someone else might and that they might use it on him...he's saying it's not over...saying anyone but Kathy or Bren would use it...

Matt: I think it is a strong possibility which is why I am not totally pissed off. We just need to keep it to ourselves.

He tells him that anyone could have it. Hayden asks if he's talking about a comp. Matt says no that it would be something America voted on that it's already out there.

He says Enzo could have it, Hayden might, Brit or Ragan, he says I might have it, then quickly says, but I know that I don't.

Enzo there now...Matt telling him he thinks there's a power out there and to not out the brigade yet.

Matt explains the same thing to Enzo.

Matt: I am keeping up hope for it.

Enzo: I aint got *****.

Matt: Whoever does have it, can't say any ways. Keep the dream alive. In past seasons, this is the weeks it gets used.

Matt asks them if they are still going to split the votes. Enzo/Hay say they are.

Ragan enters. They are still talking about whether America voted for something. Matt saying he's holding out hope.

Matt leaves. Ragan sitting in the CR looking upset."

Imagine how upset he's going to look around 5:30 p.m. PDT Thursday.

I don't think Matt forfeited the Blingie with that little sorta-reveal, especially not when the rats want him to use it more than they want to cast even more unstable personalities for next season. And some of the reaction will just turn into 'He's trying to make us paranoid'. But...

...start waving goodbye to Britney. Whatever she did to offend Grodner, it must have been major.

It was probably open thought.

"RE: Bingo."
Posted by vince3 on 08-16-10 at 04:27 PM
We better also prepare for Ultimate Chima Bombs 2 and maybe 3 or more...

Especially if the Brigade -Matt plans to oust his smirk come Thursday...

"RE: Bingo."
Posted by Belle Book on 08-16-10 at 05:18 PM
How do you know Britney is going home? Matt might choose Kathy instead of Britney. But he's clearly going to use the Diamond Power of Veto.


"RE: Bingo."
Posted by Estee on 08-16-10 at 05:29 PM
Too many competition wins. Britney's seen as a challenge threat who might eventually cut into your own win total. She's also an expert on the game's history, the Meows are worried about her friendship with Lane and want to unsplit his loyalties by removing the distraction, plus that misplaced 'farewell' to Rachel pretty much screams "The rats are after her!" -- including in the DR propaganda sessions. By contrast, Kathy's competition policy currently breaks down to 'I quit: when do we nap?' She's the spare part who can be dumped at any time when you have a slow week. This should be about who Matt feels threatened by. Can't nominate Brendon or Ragan, no point to putting up Kathy -- so Britney's out.

The only chance to change that is for Matt to make a gigantic power play. If he's aware of how bad his current status is with the Meows -- on the border waiting for a push -- then he might just decide to swing over to the other side. Throw Enzo up, claim he just found out about the alliance and is breaking it to save the rest of the house, hope a non-Meow wins HoH and protects him. The play of the game, requiring intuition, insight, and a major dose of courage.

So basically, zero for three.

"RE: Bingo."
Posted by vince3 on 08-16-10 at 06:07 PM
and for the plan to actually 'work', which is mostly zero for the season, so far...
"RE: Bingo."
Posted by Estee on 08-16-10 at 06:11 PM
I don't think Matt's going to walk out with the Blingie in his pocket, though. He's got a guaranteed ticket off the block and in this house, 'next week' is about all the future anyone ever works with. Showing power is dangerous, but deciding the house will decide to dump Lane over him is stupidity -- and I think his ego wants to have a moment of loaned-out glory.

Lock of the (eviction) night: at some point during the Blingie reveal and use, he will smirk.

"RE: Bingo."
Posted by kingfish on 08-16-10 at 07:00 PM
Why, that's...that's Diabolical!!!

(That's the best I could do).

"Matt winks at the camera."
Posted by Estee on 08-16-10 at 03:35 PM
The smirk is currently overbooked.
"Idiot Statement Of The Year."
Posted by Estee on 08-16-10 at 03:41 PM
Ragan: "Taking out the stronger competitor is just not good gamesmanship."

And watching you break down in front of Julie will just be satisfying.

"MENSA should be proud"
Posted by Rebel Crown on 08-17-10 at 03:48 AM
LAST EDITED ON 08-17-10 AT 03:55 AM (EST)

...not.

Looks like Matt's hints about a "power" being used this week has backfired a big move available to him - putting up Enzo or Hayden for turning on him.

From Jokers:

http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=bbusaupdates&Number=14309243&page=3&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&rc=&fpart=1

Enzo joins Hay/Lane in the BY. Discuss Matt.

Enzo asking if they should let Matt now they are voting him out.

Hay says they shouldn't because Matt might have a power and use it to put he or Enzo on the block. Lane agreeing.

Enzo "Yeah, he is talking about the power a lot"

They say he may have gotten it last week.

Now talking about the next HOH...should they throw it to Ragan to let him get Bren out. Saying they think they have a good chance of getting to teh end

- - - - -

Then, later on -

http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=bbusaupdates&Number=14314930&page=1&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&rc=&fpart=1

Enzo asks Brendon if he thinks Matt has a power because of the Pandoras Box, then Brendon says well I guess well find out on Thursday right. Then they both start laughing, and then Enzo says it's all bull cr*p, that there is no power and he doesn't think that there would be this season. Brendon agrees and says he thinks they would all have to be given some kind of notice that it could be coming.

- - - - -


This week still holds hope that the ending will be better than the beginning; it can't get much worse, can it? I mean, Rachel returning seemed to be the bottom of the barrel. Mayne AG can contain herself until next year. Yeah, right, who am I kidding?

"RE: MENSA should be proud"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 08-20-10 at 01:10 AM
>>> MENSA should be proud"

after much thought, I decided to out myself. I'm afraid you guys won't respect me any more (if you ever did), but I'm a member. Not a "frickin genius" either. I bet I'm not the only one here who's afraid to admit it this summer.

*I joined for the travel club benefits*

"RE: MENSA should be proud"
Posted by kingfish on 08-20-10 at 08:21 AM
Ah, but the question remains...are you a diabolical genius?
"RE: MENSA should be proud"
Posted by Rebel Crown on 08-20-10 at 05:55 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-20-10 AT 06:05 PM (EST)

<<Not a "frickin genius" either>>


At least you're enough of a genius to NOT appear on Big Brother! I'd like to see Matt try and get a theory named after him on a message board, by golly . THAT is genius!

I have always respected you, OFG, no offense meant.



Woohoo! I talked to OFG! I feel like Steve Martin getting a phone book!

"RE: MENSA should be proud"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 08-20-10 at 07:54 PM
I have been called diabolical and evil, just not in a genius way.
Not at all offended, I'm serious that Matt's bragging and smirking is enough to make me less than proud to be a member.

lol about the theory ... and the phone book.

In seriosity, MENSA accepts members who test in the 98th percentile, and that is not genius. When I was younger, before I got a certain mystery ailment that makes my brain fuzzy, I tested in the 99.9th -- which I'm sure I wouldn't manage now. I was still never close to genius. I'm positively dim in some fields of study. We all have our gifts and our weaknesses.

It amuses me that Matt thinks his MENSA membership reflects his genius status, because he ought to know that 98th percentile is high IQ, not the highest. Still, it could be that he tests at the top of the range, and that someone other than his mom thinks he's a genius. In any case, his cockiness seems to neutralize any advantage that gives him.

Yep, he's the Brain of the Brigade, but that bar is basically lying on the ground.

http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_file

"RE: MENSA should be proud"
Posted by kingfish on 08-20-10 at 08:29 PM
Fuzzy logic?...Why...why that's BRILLIANT!
"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by NedraSue on 08-18-10 at 07:04 PM
So whats up with the message board? Is everyone so bored that no one is watching the live feed?

I am getting more and more intrigued with Britney & Lanes relationship. I think that they are going to be LIFE LONG FRIENDS if they spend another week in the house!


"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by vince3 on 08-18-10 at 08:33 PM
After the Return of Rachel and then Ragan's removal from the block to put Matt up... (with or without Production/Rats assistance...) They've essentially gone to coma mode...


Matt's not acting like someone on the block should, and some people are suspicious of it... and they should, since he has the Diamond POV and will probably use it to put up either Kathy or Britney... (probably Britney if the Rats have their way...)

"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by Estee on 08-19-10 at 12:02 PM
As soon as Matt went on the block, this turned into Nothing Matters Week. Plots, lies about voting intentions, temporary alliances -- the only thing which counts will be Matt's choice of who to put up with the Blingie. And since he can't use it until tonight, nearly everything that happens before it comes out is pointless. All we can do is wait and look for Enzo to make the 'And by the way, you're going home' speech to see if it finally cues Matt to his out status with the Meows. Beyond that, all actions are ultimately empty.

Other than Enzo saying that Ragan is 'gay in a straight way'. That's about a quarter-full. (Don't ask what it's a quarter-full of.)

" Ragan & Rachel"
Posted by jbug on 08-19-10 at 09:14 AM
I agree with Ragan that Rachel is completely blind as to how people see her;
coming in saying "I'm back, B*****es" and thinking there was nothing wrong with that?

I loved how Ragan stood up to her; he's quick with come backs - and even better at mocking Rachel when she stumbled & couldn't think quick enough!

When he was telling her that no one liked her, I wondered why he didn't tell her to think about her return to the house and ask he "who" gave her a welcoming hello & hug?
uh, no body!

Other than Ragan, did anyone else even talk to Rachel at all?
Were they all just a bunch a wimps who wanted to hide like little mice?

"RE: Ragan & Rachel"
Posted by kingfish on 08-19-10 at 09:36 AM
I enjoyed Ragan's attack too. Finally showed some un-wimpyness. And I had no idea he had that kind of repertoire. Good job Ragan.

I did experience a slight bit of sympathy for Rachel though, I've been in her fumble mouth insulting shoes, and it's not a fair fight. But really, she deserved it.

But the others might have had the sense to not completely alienate a member of the jury. No matter how much she hates the final two/three, she has to vote for one of them, and if you're sitting next to Ragan your chances are pretty good for getting her vote if in the meantime you haven't focused your blow-torch wit on her.

"RE: Ragan & Rachel"
Posted by samboohoo on 08-19-10 at 10:05 AM
Me three! I wanted more. I thought Ragan showed a good balance of restraint and attack. Honestly, I might have had to forfeit and wrap my hands around her neck.

I think you are right about getting Rachel's vote, but you never know with her. She's fricking nuts and might give him the vote anyway.

I watched BBAD on Showtime one of those nights - Saturday or Sunday. I can't remember. I think I recorded it on Saturday and, at one point, Rachel and Ragan were sitting outside with the others having a somewhat normal conversation. It surprised me.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: Ragan & Rachel"
Posted by kingfish on 08-19-10 at 11:46 AM
I guess that by now the producers/editors are fully aware of the effect that having a situation where one hamster attacks another in a way that we would like to do ourselves has on the viewing audience. I remember wanting someone, anyone, to do a verbal beat down of number of them, EDick, Danielle, Natalie, the God twins, the friendship, others.

So it's not surprising that there are more tranquil moments that they don't fit into the hour broadcast.


"RE: Ragan & Rachel"
Posted by Belle Book on 08-19-10 at 04:39 PM
I think most of them realized Rachel was on the jury as well and chose to hold their tongues. If I'd been in that situation and Rachel asked me if I really liked her, I think I would've said, "You want me to be completely honest with you?" I'm not a great liar but I certainly wouldn't want to tell her the truth either -- not since she's on the jury.


"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by Glow on 08-19-10 at 11:46 AM
I need reassured that there is a zero percent chance of Lane being evicted today. Zero.percent.chance.
"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by vince3 on 08-19-10 at 11:55 AM
Lane shoulde be very safe tonight. Whoever Matt puts up in his stead, (Probably Britney/Kathy) will be voted out by the Brigade at bare minimum...
"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by LFJ on 08-19-10 at 12:09 PM
LAST EDITED ON 08-19-10 AT 12:11 PM (EST)

Let it be Britney - PLEEEZE. The thought of Rachel and Britney in the jury house, alone together, makes me laugh.

ETA: "alone together" sounds oxymoronic doesn't it? But y'all know what I mean.

"RE: Big Brother 12 Live Feeds Week 6: Rope Run HoH, Diamond POV/Coup 3.0"
Posted by Snidget on 08-19-10 at 07:15 PM
Matt was seen with the POV blingie, putting it in his pocket.
Enzo apparently has told Matt he's going home tonight as well.

*makes popcorn*