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"Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by vince3 on 09-06-09 at 03:56 PM
Let's use this for remaining 5 episodes to air, which probalby will crown a winner we're gonna hate something awful........
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"Recap of Thursday"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:02 PM
Jeffiction
gNat winning HOH

Who will she nominate and what is in Pandora's Box, so maybe we will see it today.

"Smugness alert"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:07 PM
Natalie is the bestest competitor ever and won by keeping her word?

Can anyone explain how not lying helps with that particular challenge?

"Kevin gives us time "
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:11 PM
From winning HOH to the onset of HOH-itis.
"Luxury Competition"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:18 PM
Find the same thing when you can't see each other but yell through the wall.

The faster they finish the more shopping time they get in the house at the end.

"RE: Luxury Competition"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:24 PM
They shop by putting on the clothes. Keven molests the mannequin to get his clothes.
"RE: Luxury Competition"
Posted by michel on 09-06-09 at 08:31 PM
Can you tell me why they blurred the mannequin?!!!

I wish they'd use the blur on gNat's face instead.

"RE: Luxury Competition"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:35 PM
They have a minimum number of blurs they have to use per show?
"RE: Luxury Competition"
Posted by kingfish on 09-06-09 at 09:45 PM
Maybe Kevin actually did something to the mannequin. Other than strip it.

I thought Jordan's modeling poses were amusing, she still had her knees tightly clamped together.

"RE: Luxury Competition"
Posted by zazzy on 09-06-09 at 09:47 PM
I think she was worried about her weight gain.
"RE: Luxury Competition"
Posted by Estee on 09-06-09 at 10:12 PM
A pose Jeff should be completely familiar with.
"RE: Luxury Competition"
Posted by kingfish on 09-08-09 at 08:42 AM
One I also have some experience with.
"Bus tossing competition"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:25 PM
gNat was saying she's not with Keven earlier.

Now Keven trying to team up with Michele to knock a b***h out.l

"Pandora's Box II"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:35 PM
Good or bad for HOH or house.

Spend time with a loved one in the BB house, see how is waiting for you. Her boyfriend Jason.

Env. Number II

Privilege comes at a price. To meet with him give up POV competition.

He is there with a rose. Only have 5 minutes. He did propose. *BLOOOORGH*

They have champagne.

He gave her a twist-tie ring.

Another envelope to open.

If you want 15 minutes push the button, rest of the house will be annoyed.

Man in Baby outfit. He wants his Mommy. Very large man in a baby outfit.

Jason asked her Dad for her hand on premier night.

Small person in a cat costume. A Copy Cat, does everything they do.

Jason says to tell them, and she says it will hurt her in the game.

Roach costumed guy comes in and starts spraying people.

She liked spending time with him *Blech*

Then the pests leave.

"RE: Pandora's Box II"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:37 PM
She made up fib about "Final Two Reversal"

If she is final two and gets the votes she loses anyway? Got tied up blindfolded and ears covered.

Kevin is confused that she cannot now win the big prize and it doesn't add up.

Kevin says something good happened and you got it.

"RE: Pandora's Box II"
Posted by michel on 09-06-09 at 08:40 PM
I'm starting to like the "I will slap the natbitch" Kevin. Too bad he wasn't like that from the start.
"Jordan thinks gNat is Lying?"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:42 PM
There has to be more.

They confront her about the lie.

gNat doesn't want to talk any more about Pandora's Box.

"Kevin wants to get to the bottom of this"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:44 PM
gNat putting on her crown and robe.

Kev tells her the bluff isn't adding up.

She figures she has to come clean but make it look like she was pranking them.

She admits it was good news for her. 20 minutes with boyfriend and he proposed.

Even telling the truth she looks like she is lying.

"America's Vote"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:45 PM
Reward favorite house guest with $25K
"RE: America's Vote"
Posted by zazzy on 09-06-09 at 09:40 PM
Oh, it bugs me so, that they put up the ad for "vote for your favorite" right after the segment here Nat gets engaged. Are there voters out there who will think "ah, such a nice young couple, they need something like the 25k to start out with in their marriage" and will vote for Nat?
"Nomination Ceremony"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 08:55 PM
Only one key to pull. She is in the crown and robe with scepter.

She pulls Jordan's key.

Michele and Kevin nominated.

Kevin you say this is like a game of chess, I got three moves ahead, strategic reasons so you can't get me out.

Michele for personal reasons. Backstabber and liar and if I make a deal with you I make a deal with the devil.

She says she is playing the house like a fiddle and focusing on the lie to Jordan.

Keven says gNat is a liar and screwed me over and this showed her true colors.

Michele says devil won't take you to the final two.

"Soooo Dissapointed"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 09:01 PM
I so wanted the whole proposal thing to be totally faked.

I dunno if I could trust someone who at least acts like they have no idea they lie all the time like that.

"RE: Soooo Dissapointed"
Posted by zazzy on 09-06-09 at 09:45 PM
When I saw it was really her BF and he really did pop the question, all I could think of was the boy who cried wolf...and so we don't believe Nat even though she was swearing on her life, her dad, etc.

Heck, I saw it but I's not sure I believe it! She seemed weird about it, maybe self conscious of the cameras, right when he was asking and right after; certainly not the reaction that he was wanting or what I thought a newly engaged "18 year old" 24 year old would have.

"RE: Soooo Dissapointed"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 09:51 PM
Her body language was really odd when she "told the truth" and they did seem a bit odd when they were together as well.

I'll be shocked if they are married anytime soon.

"RE: Soooo Dissapointed"
Posted by finallytyping on 09-07-09 at 01:43 AM
Wow, she "gave up so much to be with" him? Self-centered much?

Something was
definitely odd with that pairing, like they are saving themselves for marriage and
aren't comfortable touching each other or connecting intimately. Not that there is
anything wrong with abstinence before marriage; it just seemed they were in it
for show and each is hiding a true identity. She is his beard and he is her, um,
beard equivalent.

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by bacon on 09-06-09 at 09:24 PM
Would Kevin be dumb to not team up with Michele at this point? Obviously Jordan is gunning for him. So since he has the veto power, wouldn't taking Jordan out make the most since in order to avoid a 2 on 1 situation in the next round? The way I see it:

1. If Michele is voted out then Jordan would most likely team with Natalie to put out Kevin. Jordan has already expressed her dislike for Kevin in tonight's episode.

2. The other option is to vote out Jordan and team up with Michele to take out Natalie. I'm assuming that Natalie will get a lot of votes in the final two. So wouldn't Kevin want to take Michele with him, who he'd probably win easily against?

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by zazzy on 09-06-09 at 09:42 PM
I think your strategy suggestions are what a confident person would do but Kevin seems insecure and attached to Nat, despite his protestations in the DR tonight.

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by zazzy on 09-06-09 at 09:55 PM
So when is the finale?

When do we get to hear the jury questions? Is that next Sunday?

And what about Nat saying she doesn't have Jesse's vote in the jury house? Where did that come from if all she met with was her BF, Jason? And do you think her BF told her she has internet haters? Right after you get engaged, that's what you tell your fiancee?

What about Nat's slipping and calling her BF the name Jesse several times? Is she conflicted about her engagement?

Something seems weird. Did the DR tell her something or did Jason mention how Jesse acted about Nat's really being 24 instead of 18 and therefore she doesn't have her vote?

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by Snidget on 09-06-09 at 10:05 PM
The Finally? Tues Sept 15. Two.Whole.Hours.

It could be that gNat's brain finally filled up with too many lies and she can't keep it straight anymore. Or she was just randomly making feces up because she can't help it.

I could believe gNat would pump him for any game info she could even when she should be in bubbly bride mode.

"Viewers drop by 50%"
Posted by AyaK on 09-08-09 at 04:56 PM
Hi, just thought I'd share a little news.

The last two Sunday editions of BB11 drew over 12 million viewers. This week, with no Jeff and with an almost-certain final 2 of the two most despicable liars in BB history, the audience dropped to 6 million.

And falling!

"RE: Viewers drop by 50%"
Posted by Estee on 09-08-09 at 05:08 PM
Wow.

Just -- wow.

Alison, are you taking notes? We don't like this.

"RE: Viewers drop by 50%"
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 05:20 PM
How does that compare to most Labor Day Weekend Sundays?

I'd suspect some drop, but that sounds more than what I'd expect.

"Tuesday Night Show"
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 09:03 PM
Recapage.
"RE: Tuesday Night Show"
Posted by Estee on 09-08-09 at 09:07 PM
Which is as far as I got before the nausea took over and made me join the 6,000,000 who made the decision before this.

We're at 'unwatchable'. What comes next?

"RE: Tuesday Night Show"
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 09:13 PM
TV's and DVR's spontaneously combust to prevent the show from being seen?
"Is Chen's hair getting bigger and bigger "
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 09:05 PM
the more pregnant she gets?
"Clothing note"
Posted by vince3 on 09-08-09 at 09:08 PM
Look at what they were wearing when we saw a "Live" look inside the cage: Everyone but Michele was wearing sweatsuits and their clique shirts.........


Also F3 Live Feed thread is already up.

"Veto Comptetion."
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 09:20 PM
Michele done,but they are wrong.
Kevin working his way through, finds the one that was place holding so has to take them apart to fix that.

Jordan is well Jordan.

"Winner"
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 09:22 PM
Kevin wins
Michele close
Jordan is well Jordan.
"Final POV Competition:"
Posted by vince3 on 09-08-09 at 09:22 PM
Natalie is forced to sit in the HoH during the competition.

20 clues, half on left side and half on right side.

Names of hamsters on 4 different horizontal sides of the blocks

Each block had to be stacked so that each pair of clues are answered correctly......

Michele tried stacking quickly, and had a ton wrong.......

Jordan can't do anything and wasn't stacking.

Kevin had an idea what his second block was but couldn't find it until he got to the 7th row.

Also, the color of the blocks that they're using is the color of one of the other stations in play.......

Michele buzzes in and misses by one. (She had Russell/Lydia, instead of Russell/Jessie....)

Kevin wins the Final POV.

"RE: Final POV Competition:"
Posted by vince3 on 09-08-09 at 09:31 PM
Natalie brings out two Mike's Hard Lemonades once she hears of Kevin's victory in the POV, and gives him one for a victory drink.

Michele and Jordan are both moping in the pool room.

Kevin and Natalie do a victory dance in the HoH.

"RE: Final POV Competition:"
Posted by finallytyping on 09-09-09 at 01:07 AM
Jordon wasn't stacking because she was already stacked enough.

(I can't believe I just wrote that. I've been hanging around here too long.)
J/K

"Keven and gNat"
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 09:32 PM
celebrate in the HOH room as if they didn't already give their partnership away downstairs.
"RE: Keven and gNat"
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 09:33 PM
Kevin counting jury votes.
gNat will swear on anything to take him to final two.

Michele confronts Kevin about them being final two with nataLIE and trys to work Kevin about it..

"Eviction"
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 09:44 PM
Michele in devil horns.
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by vince3 on 09-08-09 at 09:45 PM
After Julie tries to send Natalie a clue that her age lie might not be helping her in the Jury House during the HoHterview.


Kevin fakes the Marcellas and does take himself off of the block.


Michele whips out a pair of Devil horns for her empassioned plea for her safety, but.......

It falls on deaf ears. Kevin votes to evict Michele.

And now the bottom row is all alone in the cage.

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by Estee on 09-08-09 at 09:50 PM
They're the bottom of something.

Or something that emerges from a bottom.

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 09:52 PM
Well the bottom of a hamster cage can get pretty nasty.
"Goodbye messages (paraphrased)"
Posted by vince3 on 09-08-09 at 09:49 PM
Natalie: I don't care if you vote for me, you played a dirty game.

Kevin: Please don't hold this against me! I wasn't sure if you were gonna betray me or not.....

Jordan: I'm gonna miss you! *sniff* I might be joining you, too! *sniff*

HoH Competition preview: They're on a giant log!

"RE: Goodbye messages (paraphrased)"
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 09:51 PM
Does Jeff know they have his giant log?

gNat may be able to get people out of the house, but I don't think she understands people have time to think about her "clean and loverly" game before they have to vote for her.

The only reason I want her to make the final two is I hope the bitter boils over during the questioning.

"Final HoH, Part 1"
Posted by vince3 on 09-08-09 at 09:55 PM
Log Jam


They have to hang on to their key with at least one hand at all times, while the log that they're on moves in various ways.......


*chanting* Volcano! Volcano!

"RE: Final HoH, Part 1"
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 09:57 PM
Kevin holding the key with one hand using the other to balance. Girls both going for a two handed strategy.
"RE: Final HoH, Part 1"
Posted by vince3 on 09-08-09 at 09:59 PM
As the log turns, the seasons change!

*thunder* Rain, wind, and falling leaves!

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by zazzy on 09-08-09 at 09:58 PM
I know it just started but it ticks me off that Nat's key was hanging lower--like at her eye or nose level and Jordan's was higher than that and Kevin's was much higher. BB needs to have some way to make it fair how high you have to have it over your head.

Oh, and Jordan, why? why? why? did you let Nat have Jeff's hat?

Ugh.

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by Snidget on 09-08-09 at 10:01 PM
It didn't look so bad at the beginning, but it did look like Jordan's key got a lot higher right there at the end.
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by zazzy on 09-08-09 at 10:05 PM
I rewound it to see how it looked before they started. Nat's definitely started off lower. It could be because her arms or short or because BB is helping her.

Jordan's was high above her head after it started because she was already lower on the turning log than the other two.

How long b4 Nat throws it?

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by jbug on 09-09-09 at 09:26 AM
I mentioned this on the other thread. So I wasn't the only one to notice this huh?
BB really needs to look at heights and such when setting these things up.
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by Estee on 09-09-09 at 09:36 AM
'The game is fair...'

This one isn't.

"Michelle"
Posted by jbug on 09-09-09 at 09:30 AM
We all know gNat is lying all the time. She harps on what a terrible person Michelle is.
Russell called her some pretty bad names too - so did ???? (drawing a blank).

So, did Michelle give the other house guests a reason to think she is that bad? or was it all because of the lies started by gNat and Kevin? I know they told some biguns to turn Russell against her; it would be fun to see the reactions of the other house guests when they watch the show and find out the truth about all of gNat's lies.

"RE: Michelle"
Posted by Estee on 09-09-09 at 09:36 AM
it would be fun to see the reactions of the other house guests when they watch the show and find out the truth about all of gNat's lies.

Maybe. I think at least one or two will drop into perma-denial: no, the live feeds were edited to make them look like they were wrong about Michele! And Michele bribed the producers to do it! She's evil!

Natalie and Kevin did a lot of the work in discrediting Michele, but you probably have to give Ronnie dubious credit for being the touchstone -- he was terrified of Michele being more intelligent than he was, and moved to sabotage her within seeming minutes of entering the cage.

"RE: Michelle"
Posted by zazzy on 09-09-09 at 11:30 AM
Yeah, Michelle told Ronnie? Russell? who told Ronnie? that she had a PHD and she never should have because it made many of the crew intimidated by her intelligence. That and Nat is just a Tormentor. She was ticked that Michelle broke ranks from the Jesse-Nat-Chima-Russell alliance despite Michelle being a weak 5th or so in that group, and also that Michelle put up Chima.

In the past houseguests have been paranoid or at times extremely mean but Nat was like water torture with her vileness. She was promoting the idea of tormenting Michelle about her brother who died earlier this year, wanted to put bleach in Michelle's contacts, etc. It makes Evel D's pots and pans banging look mild by comparison. There is soooo much the TV audience doesn't know about Nat.

With Evel D there were times he was entertaining and times he was disgusting; with Nat, there is no entertainment, just disgust.

"RE: Michelle"
Posted by Snidget on 09-09-09 at 11:35 AM
Don't forget plotting with Lydia on putting a Red M&M in her food or drink because she's allergic. I can't recall which one of them was the instigator of that but both seemed to think it was a fine idea.
"When we left the hamsters"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 07:54 PM
They were on a giant spinning log, holding onto their keys, and having to suffer rain, wind, and falling leaves, among other things.......
"When we left the hamsters..."
Posted by Estee on 09-10-09 at 07:57 PM
...we locked the door behind us before placing the explosives around the cage.

I'll follow the thread, but I can't make myself watch this fiasco.

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 08:05 PM
Part 2 will be live tonight, and for the first time ever, the Final HoH will not be crowned on the Thursday before Finale Night......

They will be told about all 3 going to the 2-hour Finale Night along with all of us, a little later......

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 08:07 PM
Rehashing about Michele's eviction, and Natalie's venom toward her, even after Michele left the house, including on the log......
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by Estee on 09-10-09 at 08:10 PM
Good. We've been waiting a couple of months for the producers to get around to running The Worst Of Natalie. If they're showing that degree of ugliness now, they may finally be ready to throw her under the incoming 747. (The bus wouldn't do enough damage.)
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by Snidget on 09-10-09 at 08:16 PM
gNat doesn't want to fall and let Kevin win.

Fall biznatch FALL!!!

Please Kevin, remember DR Kevin, if you get the change BOOT HER!!!!!

"Part 1 highlights"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 08:17 PM
55 minutes in, the log suddenly stopped and almost took everyone out.

Kevin complains about the cold rain.

WHOAH! Natalie slipped on the log, and by hanging on to the rope/key, managed to spin her way back on to the log!

1:30 or so, they start showing the log doing lumberjack log rolling tricks.......

3:02ish, the talk about going until sunrise and beyond for Kevin/Natalie......

Natalie told her during one moment that if Jordan falls, that she'd be off about 5 minutes later......

3:27, a distracted Jordan bit the dust when the log had her walking backwards.....

Once Jordan went in, they start talking friendly again......

CBS just aired Kevin speaking Spanish to Natalie asking her to drop in about 5 minutes.....

Kevin then talks about their plan for Natalie to throw Part 1 to Kevin, and then they flashed back 3 days previously to just that talk......

Now they're arguing, as Kevin DR's that he is planning to dump Natalie after part 3.......

After Natalie drops, he walks off the log to the side......

Jeff in the Jury House will be shown, plus 4 of the most famous HGs will be in Julie's Boudoir to weigh in on the current Final 3.......

"RE: Part 1 highlights"
Posted by Estee on 09-10-09 at 08:20 PM
You mean there's a chance of getting to watch Will call Natalie a self-deluding pointlessly vengeful bitch?

*considers*

Nope. Still not gonna watch.

"RE: Part 1 highlights"
Posted by Snidget on 09-10-09 at 08:27 PM
Janelle, EDick, Danielle, and some nameless guy who rides Will's coattails.
"Live.Jury.Questions?"
Posted by Snidget on 09-10-09 at 08:22 PM
*Stocks up on popcorn*
"Get ready for a new record."
Posted by Estee on 09-10-09 at 08:26 PM
Number of times cutting to fish during a live show.
"Schedule change announcement"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 08:28 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-10-09 AT 08:31 PM (EST)

They're all shocked about the announcement that nobody will be leaving tonight......

Natalie/Jordan will play in Part 2 tonight. Whoever wins, will play Kevin on Finale night. The winner of Final HoH will then evict Juror #6 who'll join the remaining 5 jurors for immediate grilling of the F2, and then the Jury will cast their votes.

Russel/Lydia both are hoping that Kevin doesn't come in, and that he wins the game......


Highlights of Jeff joining the Jury House, and he initially faked that Kevin was actually the one coming in.....

Jeff's unfortunately thinking that Michele will send Kevin next to the Jury House......

After the break: Boogie, Janelle, Danielle (BB3/AS), and ED will join Chenbot to talk about the current crop......

"RE: Schedule change announcement"
Posted by Estee on 09-10-09 at 08:31 PM
How's his Kevin imitation? And was he able to get his spine reinserted after he finished?
"RE: Schedule change announcement"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 08:36 PM
Voice only imitation.

Also, Jeff was surprised at the venom against Natalie, mainly because of the age lie. They also roasted Natalie's tanking of the HoH that Kevin won.........

"Can I start hating one of the survivors already?"
Posted by Snidget on 09-10-09 at 08:30 PM
He went to the gNat-a-Lie school of game play.
"RE: Can I start hating one of the survivors already?"
Posted by Estee on 09-10-09 at 08:32 PM
Was it the fairly short and pretty wide one with the big head?

You can tell I'm really involved with the coming season.

"RE: Can I start hating one of the survivors already?"
Posted by Snidget on 09-10-09 at 08:36 PM
Hold on
*Removes knives from dart board*
*looks at shreds of photo*

Yes, yes it is.

"RE: Can I start hating one of the survivors already?"
Posted by Estee on 09-10-09 at 08:38 PM
Save your strength. You're probably going to wind up hating him for consecutive seasons.
"RE: Can I start hating one of the survivors already?"
Posted by Snidget on 09-10-09 at 08:43 PM
Hopefully Jiffy won't want to have his baby like he did with that coach guy.
"RE: Can I start hating one of the survivors already?"
Posted by Estee on 09-10-09 at 08:45 PM
Now you're just being silly. Everyone knows Benji successfully gave birth to octuplets.
"RE: Can I start hating one of the survivors already?"
Posted by Snidget on 09-10-09 at 08:47 PM
didn't the pygmies deliver the babies?
"RE: Can I start hating one of the survivors already?"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 08:42 PM
Russell H. told a story about being in New Orleans during Katrina, but he lied. He wasn't there......
"So...did gNat try to tank that"
Posted by Snidget on 09-10-09 at 08:50 PM
or is she just not that good at competitions.
"RE: So...did gNat try to tank that"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 08:56 PM
I think she Dr. Will'd on that one: Failure to win when you need to do so after tanking so badly......

Kevin has a look of shock and covered his mouth.

Natalie bitters about screwing it up......


Sunday: Hilarious/Embarassing Never Before Seen Moments......

Tuesday: 2-hour Finale starts at 9.....


I think Natalie's going to be rehashing that debacle until Tuesday........

"Egad that is complicated"
Posted by Snidget on 09-10-09 at 08:51 PM
6 things to vote fair. Depends on the pair and then who of that pair you want to win.
"Because..."
Posted by Estee on 09-10-09 at 08:53 PM
...the powers that be think this lets them scam an extra 200% of the normal text fees.

"Final HoH, Part 2"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 08:51 PM
They have 2 minutes to roll balls with the names of all those that won the HoH to the holes that represent the weeks that they won them......

However, if the ball gets stuck in the wrong hole? SOL.


Correct order:

Jessie
Ronnie
Jessie
Russell
Chima
Michele
Jordan
Jeff
Kevin
Natalie


Natalie ended up getting 5 right (she ended up rolling a Jessie ball into week 4, and then got another one in a wrong hole which messed her up......)

In case of a tie, whoever finishes with more time on the clock wins......

Jordan's up. She's got 9 right and completed it much faster, so she'll win Part 2. (accidentally rolled a Ronnie ball into week 4)

America's choice: 7th Juror, and they'll have a text for all 3 scenarios.

1 for Jordan vs. 2 for Kevin
3 for Kevin vs. 4 for Natalie
5 for Jordan vs. 6 for Natalie

"RE: Final HoH, Part 2"
Posted by Bar Belle on 09-10-09 at 10:50 PM
So if Jordan couldn't get any of her blocks right on the Veto challenge, with several having to do with HOH, did she study her patootie off?

OR- and I doubt this

Was she counting on Michelle to win the veto and send Kevin home?

"RE: Final HoH, Part 2"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 10:58 PM
This one had a much simpler mental part than the POV.

One question for each week: Who was the HoH? The main issue in that challenge, I think, was getting the correct answer in the correct place, especially if one got in the wrong place previously....... since you couldn't reach the place to remove the ball out of the hole, let alone have the time to climb on the apparatus to correct it.......

The POV had 20 questions.......and you had to align the blocks the right way.....

"Jordan won something?"
Posted by Estee on 09-10-09 at 08:56 PM
Wonder how long it took to get the magnets in those balls...

This sets up a little bit of stress for Natalie: she has to trash Jordan to Kevin and give him reasons to take her, then turn around and lie about Kevin (or just tell some very accurate truths) to Jordan as reasons to take her -- and then pray to herself for her targets not to compare notes.

No pity whatsobloodyever.

"I think maybe the Chenbot"
Posted by Snidget on 09-10-09 at 08:56 PM
Doesn't like gNat-a-Li3.

gN: Well Julie that was a mental challenge and blah blah blah.
CB: It was mental AND physical.
Cut feed to the house.

"RE: I think maybe the Chenbot"
Posted by Estee on 09-10-09 at 09:00 PM
But if it had just been its own Junior Olympics event...
"RE: I think maybe the Chenbot"
Posted by jbug on 09-11-09 at 09:56 AM
The look on gNat's face when she heard Jordon won?
Priceless!

She was so positive she could beat Jordon at any game, she was comfortable in letting Kevin have the first round.
so so deluded;

"RE: I think maybe the Chenbot"
Posted by kingfish on 09-11-09 at 11:52 AM
I had a funny look on my face when Jordan won.
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by zazzy on 09-10-09 at 09:14 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-10-09 AT 09:15 PM (EST)

The fairness side of me says WTF with having ED, Boogey, Dani and Jani on the show to talk up Kevin? And then run the thing for the jury vote, lol.

But, given how this season has turned out, I'm not half as aggravated over this blatant move as I might be, particularly with their laxness in the HOH comp with Nat. Who knows if Jordan would have focused differently if Nat had been eliminated in that first comp? No matter, Jordan smoked Nat tonight and I love that! Now Jordan's won two things legit and one was helped by Jeff. That trumps Nat's record.

And Nat had plenty of time to practice. Hoist by her own petard of cockiness, perhaps?

LOL!

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 09:20 PM
I think it was 3 factors:

1. Mothed away from practice time.
2. When she did practice, she svcked.
3. Dr. Will syndrome finally bites her in the butt.

Plus it didn't help that once she missed that second ball, she just moved the answers down a row........ wrongly....

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by michel on 09-10-09 at 09:47 PM
Simpler answer: She choked.

Now, if only we could do it to her.

The jury seems to prefer Kevin>Jordan>gNat or am I wrong?

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 09:51 PM
I think so, or at least: Kevin=Jordan>gNat........
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by michel on 09-10-09 at 10:34 PM
You mean that, if Kevin does as he said and eliminates the biznatch, he could be making a $450 000 mistake?
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by vince3 on 09-10-09 at 10:45 PM
Maybe, maybe not. It's entirely possible that the jury will be so ecstatic to see gNataLIE gone that they may just breeze through the Jury Questioning to award him the money 5-1, not counting America's vote.........
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by Estee on 09-11-09 at 03:29 AM
I dare you to explain that equation to Jordan.
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by newsomewayne on 09-11-09 at 07:49 AM
I dare you to explain the word equation to Jordan.
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by Estee on 09-11-09 at 08:03 AM
We're all in trouble. Someone has to explain 'explaining'.
"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by michel on 09-11-09 at 08:21 AM
There's hope; the girl came up with the word "Instigator" last night.

It almost knocked me off my couch before any of them fell off the log.

"Will BB haul out that Nat footage that they already have prepared that shows"
Posted by zazzy on 09-10-09 at 09:17 PM
...how funky Nat was in not taking showers and the other houseguests were commenting on it--that seems made for the Sunday night show.

Also loved the Nat discussion in the jury house tonight! Woo Hoo!

"RE: Will BB haul out that Nat footage that they already have prepared that shows"
Posted by beanr123 on 09-10-09 at 09:39 PM
HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is it really true? Jordan beat gNataliar? Whoohoo!!!! Please, please get gNataliar out of there!
"kevin made his $ mistake when he kicked off michelle."
Posted by MollyTV on 09-11-09 at 08:55 AM
i really think kevin doesn't have a chance if he isn't the HOH. he should have taken michelle over jordan. he would have been GUARANTEED top 2. with jordan there is still the chance jordan will take gnat.

gnat knows jury will pick kevin over her.
jordan might know jury will pick her over gnat.

so he really blew it
mollytv

"RE: kevin made his $ mistake when he kicked off michelle."
Posted by Lorr on 09-11-09 at 09:22 AM
Why does Kevin hate Jeff so much - even with him getting Jeff out of the house.
"RE: kevin made his $ mistake when he kicked off michelle."
Posted by Snidget on 09-11-09 at 09:25 AM
He was cute but into girls?

I don't think Jeff went out of his way to make friends with everyone in the house, so maybe Kevin felt specifically excluded rather than Jeff just waited to see who would come to him.

"Pretty much yes"
Posted by AyaK on 09-12-09 at 12:39 PM
Kevin felt that Jeff was standoffish. Kevin is very social and Jeff isn't. Plus, Kevin didn't think that Jeff respected his game and that Jeff felt that he could manipulate Kevin.

And he's right on all counts. Jeff didn't socialize with Jessie's clique. Jeff is much more of a loner, which is what made him fail to trust his sworn allies. And Jeff did think he could manipulate Kevin, which is why Jeff is sitting in the jury house now.

"RE: kevin made his $ mistake when he kicked off michelle."
Posted by Cindarella66 on 09-11-09 at 12:38 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-11-09 AT 12:44 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 09-11-09 AT 12:43 PM (EST)

I agree -- Kevin should have kept Michele. That's really his biggest mistake in the game. He still may make final 2. Who knows what Jordan will do as she has promised both Final 2 should she win, but told the DR she was taking NataLIE. NataLIE and Michele would NEVER have taken each other. They each flat-out disliked the other. I guess the only thing that could have been going through his mind was that he was afraid he couldn't have counted on winning one of the two parts of the final HOH with Michele there, but he really wouldn't have needed to. And he had good chances against either NataLIE or Michele with the jury. I think Kevin vs Jordan will be the closest vote out of all options. And it's all but guaranteed NataLIE will not vote for whoever doesn't take her to Final 2, so Jessie or Russell will probably be the deciding vote in that scenario.

"RE: kevin made his $ mistake when he kicked off michelle."
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 09-11-09 at 08:25 PM
I think in a Kevin/Jordo F2, Jordan's odds are sketchy. She should have Jeff and Michelle. She might have America.

Kevin will have Lydia, might get America, should get Jesse as an alliance vote given that Jesse can't vote for Jesse. Russell and Jordo were at odds bigtime, and I think he respects Kevin's game; he seems like a gameplayer vote guy.

Which leaves Nat, Ms. Vindiction.
If Jordo wins HOH and takes Kevin, she votes Kevin.
If Kevin stabs Nat in back, I am not sure what she'll do, because she's big on lying but she has been loyal to her team, and she won't like the betrayal. But she'll want her team to win. Maybe her head will explode and then all that grease will catch fire.

It's possible that Kevin could take Nat over Jordo now that he knows about America's voter, as America gave Jeff power, he has an idea America is not rooting for him and Gnat.

I think if Jordan wins and takes Gnat, that she will clearly have America's vote in that scenario, so Lydia will be the deciding vote, and won't vote for Gnat.

Kevin, Russ, and Jesse's votes wouldn't matter. I think Lydia will vote with her emotions and not for her alliance. Yes Jordan's BF evicted Jessie, but that wasn't Jordan's doing, as she didn't even know about the coup d'etat.

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"RE: kevin made his $ mistake when he kicked off michelle."
Posted by Snidget on 09-11-09 at 08:35 PM
Maybe her head will explode and then all that grease will catch fire

From your fingers to the camera lens.

"RE: kevin made his $ mistake when he kicked off michelle."
Posted by AyaK on 09-12-09 at 12:53 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-16-09 AT 01:00 PM (EST)

Hi, OFG! Still in Hawaii? How's it going?

I turned off the feeds when Michele lost POV to Kevin, but I think your vote analysis is correct. Jessie, Lydia and Russell would all vote Kevin, without a doubt. Jeff and Michele would vote Jordan, as would America. So gNat would be the tiebreaking vote, and Jordan's only chance of getting her vote is if Kevin boots her, which he WILL NOT do.

In a Kevin-gNat finale, Kevin wins easily. I don't see gNat getting a vote.

In a Jordan-gNat finale, I think gNat has got real problems. I think she gets Russell's vote. But probably not Kevin's, because he'll feel that she sandbagged to get him out. She could easily lose 6-1.

In other words, gNat can't win. Jordan can, but she should boot Kevin if she wins the last HoH. And Kevin can't lose if he sticks to his alliance and makes the final.

Edited for dumb typo.

"RE: kevin made his $ mistake when he kicked off michelle."
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 09-14-09 at 07:05 AM
belated hi back to AyaK!

Yep, still in Hawai'i, which is not at all like being here on vacation, for those who are envious. Kind of like Survivor on an island is not like Club Med.

Yeah, when Michelle lost POV I gave up too.

What an awful recap. I don't think there was a bit of new footage, and here's a show with incredible unaired footage, and they are too lazy to give us anything but what's already been aired, some of it four of five times already.

I hope the jury is a little bit interesting, but am not too hopeful.


"RE: Will BB haul out that Nat footage that they already have prepared that shows"
Posted by jbug on 09-11-09 at 09:49 AM
gNat's hair was looking especially greasy;
I thought after the log roll, surely she'd wash it when she showered;
but it didn't look like she did.

Then I got to thinking about when her BF visited; wondered how badly she smelled when she saw him.
Maybe he is the one who insisted they get only 20 minutes together - maybe he knew he couldn't stand to be in a closed room with no windows for longer than that.
ewwwwwww.

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by kingfish on 09-11-09 at 08:58 AM

I thought it was kind of ironic to hear Evil Dick voice his preference for Kevin to win, because he played a Gnat type of game. And Danielle to some extent.

And who would ‘a thunk that ED would be the more careful money manager (if what he said was true).

And Boogie used his winnings to upgrade his Jack Shack to a Bentley.

"It's Secret Footage Night!"
Posted by Estee on 09-13-09 at 07:58 PM
See the whole and total five seconds of the game when Natalie was clean!
"RE: It's Secret Footage Night!"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:07 PM
Who are all these people I don't remember who married people's brothers and mothers and oh it's 60 minutes Guiding Light segment.

So how late will we start?

"RE: It's Secret Footage Night!"
Posted by Estee on 09-13-09 at 08:10 PM
Dunno & don't care. I'm going to soak in the bathtub for an hour.
"RE: It's Secret Footage Night!"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:27 PM
Leave me here all alone.
Enjoy your bath. Hopefully it'll get the gNat stank off from watching the season up until now.
"What What What Recap"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:28 PM
All of them about the 'til Tuesday thing, now many times do they need to replay that.
"RE: What What What Recap"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:29 PM
Kevin likes it because he can vote gNat out without her poisoning the jury.

Final Three Dinner.

"RE: What What What Recap"
Posted by batts on 09-13-09 at 08:30 PM
Maybe 4 more times? ......
"Mystery 13th guest review"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:30 PM
"Jesse will not shut up"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:33 PM
Lydia and gNat drop off into a coma.
"Casey rememberences"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:33 PM
Man in the banana suit.
"Talking about Ronnie and Russell"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:35 PM
"RE: Talking about Ronnie and Russell"
Posted by batts on 09-13-09 at 08:44 PM
I can't take it any more. Just can't take it any more...

The definition of painful... Watching a grown man cry on national T.V. in a reality game show called 'Big Brother'.

This is painful. Just painful. Why do I watch this? But, it's like watching somebody falling off a cliff... you just can't turn away...

"RE: Talking about Ronnie and Russell"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:51 PM
This isn't Reality TV Watcher's Anonymous, ya know.
"RE: Talking about Ronnie and Russell"
Posted by batts on 09-13-09 at 08:53 PM
Reality TV watchers... Would that involve more crying?
"RE: Talking about Ronnie and Russell"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:54 PM
Probably
"Jeff discusson"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:43 PM
So when did you know you liked him liked him.
"Lydia and Jessie"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:44 PM
gNat says they weren't a couple.
"More Jeff and Jordan stuff"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:46 PM
"Mystery Power review"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:47 PM
"Review of Jesse's Funeral."
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:50 PM
"RE: Review of Jesse's Funeral."
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:56 PM
gNat says it wasn't dramatic, it was real.
"The Dead Garden"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:58 PM
Because no one would water it after Jeff left.
"gNat vs the bugs."
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 08:59 PM
"Did he just say Redonkulous?"
Posted by batts on 09-13-09 at 09:00 PM
Is that a word? Ree-DONK* YOU lus... hmmm
"RE: Did he just say Redonkulous?"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 09:01 PM
It is in Kevinese.
"The Chima Incident"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 09:00 PM
"The Splish Spash Room"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 09:07 PM
Michele's Night Terrors.
"More Jordeff stuff"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 09:08 PM
"The Red Room"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 09:10 PM
"I'm not swurring my words."
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 09:11 PM
"BB12"
Posted by vince3 on 09-13-09 at 09:14 PM
The search for those even lower than the barrel is on!
"Jordan vs Russell"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 09:17 PM
"Wow we are the final three-iest"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 09:20 PM
Best of luckiest groupiest huggiest ever.
"Except for DR-Kevin"
Posted by Snidget on 09-13-09 at 09:22 PM
because that dude would cut a b****. Hopefully they'll let him out of the DR before Tuesday.
"RE: Except for DR-Kevin"
Posted by beanr123 on 09-14-09 at 06:42 AM
That was theeeee most boring show I have ever watched. Kept telling myself to turn the channel, but I was thinking I might miss something good! HA!
"RE: Except for DR-Kevin"
Posted by zazzy on 09-14-09 at 02:57 PM
Well, we got to see Jeff and Jordin in the DR together and Michelle's night terrors.

We saw Kevin as the best of the three actors last night. I kept wondering if someone was standing across the room with huge poster boards written with topic prompts and then I remembered that BB can just direct them over the loudspeaker, lol!

"Chima Tweets on Finale No Show"
Posted by Snidget on 09-15-09 at 08:32 AM
# Word re: BB finale...they wanted me to do a taped interview for the finale, but I refused for many reasons. The most important being...6:51 PM Sep 11th from TweetDeck

# You either have me live & in person or not at all. I'm done with the EDIT. That was not reality. It was pure entertainment....6:56 PM Sep 11th from TweetDeck

So again either I have to have all the control or I'm not going to play. Unfortunately that really doesn't work well in the entertainment industry. There is always an edit and that is just part of the price of fame. Heck even live there is always someone on the button that can bleep you out or cut your mike if your entertainment value isn't high enough. Usually they'll let people go nuts because it makes good TV.

"RE: Chima Tweets on Finale No Show"
Posted by kingfish on 09-15-09 at 08:49 AM
Good. She's out, she left because of her own actions, and she should stay out.

I'd vote for editing her completely out forever more. But I bet Trump & Co. has an offer in the mail.

And send a complete set of tapes to her Grandma.

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by Estee on 09-15-09 at 10:13 AM
So what do we call tonight? It's too putrid to be a Finally. Is this a two-hour GetItOverWith? An extended GoAwayForever? The ever-popular LetThemAllDie?

Stay tuned for MegaSvck!

"RE: Big Brother 11 F4 ECST"
Posted by kingfish on 09-15-09 at 10:28 AM
I'd vote for Ground Zero (The Air Force kind).
"This:"
Posted by vince3 on 09-15-09 at 10:45 AM
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID34/1313.shtml