It may be stupid, but they do it every year and they still get good ratings, so I don't think they are going to change.

I don't think it is that much of a risk for CBS. The percentage of the viewing audience that knows the actual events, either through the live feeds or through message boards, is probably very, very small. The ones who are likely to read any articles probably fall into the first small group and not the larger set of general viewers. The ones who actually care about the discrepancies are also more likely to be from the first group.

If it was going to cause a problem it would have happened many seasons ago and with many other shows as well.

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I'm not saying it's right to skew the editing one way or the other. Like Nailbone said above, it's stupid to do it when a portion of the audience has access to the live feeds. IMO, to skew the editing to influence the audience to vote a certain way is particularly obnoxious.

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Season 6 was before my time on the message boards and I don't get the feeds, so I had no idea that Maggie was anything but what I saw on TV. I know this is like so 3 years ago, but what went on in that HOH room with her alliance?

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Ultra-bashing of everyone who wasn't in her alliance. We caught a lot of it on the live feed threads (which were very active that season): it was more than enough to turn the majority of the board against her. Her name just about became a synonym for really blatant editing: the producers had to turn cartwheels to make her even remotely tolerable to the public.

Oh, and ask her about her wrongful death lawsuits. Whee!

Maggie was your basic cult leader: We Are Good, They Must Be Destroyed. And while a little of this goes on in most alliance groups, she took We Are Good to a new level -- along with seriously distorting the definition of Good.

Maggie's list of unpleasantries would be quite long. In summary, Maggie was at the same level as Ivette/April when it came down to spewing hatred and venom against the other houseguests. Some of her most horrid moments took place in the HOH room, where the entire Friendsheep would gather around and bash the other hamsters (especially Janelle). They were all under the delusion that the HOH room was off-limits to the producers and therefore not being videotaped, which is the reason why they would unleash their most vile and hateful comments in the HOH room. For whatever reason that no one can understand, Maggie's most horrid moments never made it on the show.

BB wants their winner to be, if not beloved by the public, at least marginally tolerated. The editing tends to soften on people with a chance to last a while.

Wow...I guess so! I had no idea about Maggie, guess that explains why she didn't get the All stars invite.

Even if Maggie had been invited to participate in All-Stars, I doubt she would have accepted. Maggie never expected the backlash against her to be so great. I remember that she cried after a particularly harsh interview. Maggie, April, and Jen realized after the show how much the fans despised them. They all crawled back to whatever hole they came from and have yet to see the light of day. The only one who wanted to redeem herself was Ivette, but the audience wanted nothing to do with her in All-Stars.

Regarding Amber's editing... The fact that Amber has the vocabulary of an 8-year-old doesn't have a thing in the world to do with how CBS edits her. She's that way for real because she doesn't read except children's books. And the fact that she thinks she has visions from God also has nothing to do with the editing. Producers don't make this stuff up.

And as far as her possible mental disability? She does have one and it's been discussed on the feeds and on these threads... drug addiction. Amber's a drug addict, that's why she acts the way she acts, IMO. That's bad casting (which is always my complaint with this show), not bad editing.

Well I don't think this is new news to anyone.

The job of the editors is to tell a coherant story which may or may not closely resemble the raw footage. They will make the most compelling story out of the footage, not the most accurate one. Sometimes the accurate one is really boring, etc.

FWIW I do not thnk Dick is getting father of the year or all around nice guy type of edit. He is trying harder at the relationship with Dani and she is using hime. That seems consistant from what I have read from the feeds. Now not all his explosiveness has been aird on the 3 hours a week, but they have to show competitions and stuff.

Some of the worst stuff doesn't mke the air IMO because CBS doesn't need the headache, and we seen it from most of the hamsters this year like every year.

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The link below is where I got the response from...the person posting didn't post the link that she/he had copied it from:

http://forums.film.com/showthread.php?t=21835&highlight=wrestling

The post is as follows:

I copied this from another message board. Apparently the author of this message complained to the Federal Comication Commission and this is the reply that he got. (The posters words)

The OFFICIAL RESPONSE from the FCC is below. They liken Big Brother to professional wrestling and state that the contest is not real and that the outcome is predetermined. If you don't believe me, file your own concern with the FCC. I'm confident you'll receive an identical message.

The response I received:

Thanks for contacting the FCC via the online inquiry form, with your inquiry (designated IC Number: 07-x1327xxxx), regarding the 'reality' show 'Big Brother.' We will close your inquiry IC Number: 07-x1327xxxx with this response:

A "game show" in which selected contestants (vs. members of the
public) participate is governed by Section 509 of Title 47 of the United States Code (USC), and regulated by the Department of Justice. However 'Big Brother' does not appear to meet the definition of a "game show." Rather, it is a 'for entertainment only' program, somewhat similar to professional wrestling in that it is a pseudo-contest in which the outcome is fully, or in some measure, predetermined.

Very interesting...I wonder how BB and CBS can justify taking money from the text voting (Not mine, not silly enough to waste my money) How do those people who voted actually know their votes were counted and a winner determined? No public stats on how many voted and what the % was for the winner.

I don't have any doubt that the votes (including America's Voter) are real. Rather, the issue here involves such questions as (1) whether the competitions are predetermined or set to try and keep certain popular players (e.g., Janelle last year) around, (2) how much influence do producers have in the DR, and (3) what impact does the manipulation of "America's Voter" questions have.

hi allen i am with you