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"Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Estee on 09-26-11 at 10:10 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-26-11 AT 10:33 AM (EST)For notes on leg construction, task design, course layout, camera work, and the other elements which go into the actual assembly of the Race. (This is not for commenting on Racer actions unless said actions were directly caused, influenced, or sabotaged by Production.) It's sort of a behind-the-scenes GUFU with occasional positive notes, and it's one thread per season. Sort of like how it's one elimination per standard mat.
Um...
...this isn't going to be a very positive opener, is it?
Slap Double-elimination on the next leg shatters the stone around the last original commandment of the Race: On all legs but the final one, thou art fine unless thou comest in last. Now you're dead if you're next-to-last? Where was this rule when Dandrew was sliming about? Sure, it may be good for five seconds of drama, but Racers need something they can count on, and violating your own structure this badly takes out all ability to rebuild trust. Tell you what: how about on the leg after the next, you eliminate the team that comes in first? Third? No, how about everyone who reaches the mat spins a wheel and if it lands on Bankrupt...
Slap 'And here we are reporting from Los Angeles, the only city Racers ever seem to leave from.'
Slap The opening task basically broke down to 'Grab umbrella. Check with Phil. If wrong, grab different umbrella and repeat.' How about making the teams actually unscramble the destination once they had the proper rain shield? By sending them on their way as soon as they had the right one and outright giving them the destination in the car video, this turned into a pure luck-based randomizer. (Admittedly, given some of the teams, they'd still be there... but that's Casting's problem.)
No hand movement For now, I choose to believe that a Twitter network of TAR fans got that passport to the airport. But don't push your luck.
Slap Did anyone mention leg funds? Ever?
Slap I'm all for nightmare clues that require actual brainpower to figure out, but it helps if they're in a language the Racers can read. While only one team managed to turn 'Look up' into a waking nightmare, virtually everyone had issues with sorting out a myriad of red-and-yellow signs to spot the one they needed -- which they couldn't make any sense of without local assistance, and therefore, no brainpower required. (Imagine the chaos if there had been a right-color billboard advertising an amusement park.) This at least partially left the teams at the dubious mercy of luck -- again.
Oh, and convince me the guy in red-and-yellow boxers wasn't a plant.
No hand movement The Roadblock should not have been that difficult to complete -- but again, that's Casting's problem more than it is Production's. But I suppose it would have been too much to ask for the monk to say "Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha... NO!"?
Shrug Did anyone else feel like the rowing challenge was half a Detour where no one took the other option? (Tell me they all completed the course on one try. I could use the laugh.)
Slap A Hazard is a Speed Bump is a 'We're Still Trying To Work This Out.'
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If we had a casting slap thread, it would be up to twenty posts by now.
Table of contents
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,samboohoo, 10:58 AM, 09-26-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Earl Colby Pottinger, 02:11 PM, 09-26-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Joools, 04:01 PM, 09-26-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,MsShel330, 09:05 PM, 09-27-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,cahaya, 03:43 PM, 09-27-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Molaholic, 06:14 PM, 09-26-11
- Claps & slaps &...,cahaya, 03:35 AM, 09-27-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Max Headroom, 11:30 AM, 09-27-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,kingfish, 02:09 PM, 09-27-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Max Headroom, 02:21 PM, 09-27-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,cahaya, 03:26 PM, 09-27-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,kingfish, 07:58 PM, 09-27-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,cahaya, 08:18 PM, 09-27-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Draco Malfoy, 07:50 PM, 10-05-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,cahaya, 03:41 PM, 09-27-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Colonel Zoidberg, 11:04 PM, 09-27-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Max Headroom, 09:24 AM, 09-28-11
- Indonesia. ,Estee, 04:48 PM, 10-03-11
- RE: Indonesia. ,moonbaby, 07:21 PM, 10-03-11
- RE: Indonesia. ,Earl Colby Pottinger, 09:20 AM, 10-04-11
- RE: Indonesia. ,Molaholic, 10:03 AM, 10-04-11
- RE: Indonesia. ,featherfish81, 11:46 AM, 10-04-11
- RE: Indonesia. ,Earl Colby Pottinger, 03:28 PM, 10-05-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Estee, 08:44 AM, 10-10-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Max Headroom, 09:11 AM, 10-10-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,kidflash212, 09:28 AM, 10-10-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,kidflash212, 09:34 AM, 10-10-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Molaholic, 10:29 AM, 10-10-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,michel, 04:26 PM, 10-10-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,michel, 04:24 PM, 10-10-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,jbug, 04:54 PM, 10-10-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,michel, 05:40 PM, 10-10-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,garibaldi, 01:38 AM, 10-12-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,jbug, 09:39 AM, 10-12-11
- RE: Production: claps & slaps,Earl Colby Pottinger, 11:38 AM, 10-13-11
- The leg of ???,Estee, 10:37 AM, 10-17-11
- RE: The leg of ???,michel, 01:10 PM, 10-17-11
- RE: The leg of ???,Molaholic, 06:23 PM, 10-17-11
- RE: The leg of ???,michel, 06:36 PM, 10-17-11
- RE: The leg of ???,Earl Colby Pottinger, 03:57 PM, 10-19-11
- RE: The leg of ???,jbug, 01:26 PM, 10-17-11
- RE: The leg of ???,michel, 03:08 PM, 10-17-11
- RE: The leg of ???,Earl Colby Pottinger, 03:53 PM, 10-19-11
- RE: The leg of ???,jbug, 07:56 PM, 10-19-11
- RE: The leg of ???,moonbaby, 01:41 PM, 10-17-11
- RE: The leg of ???,Molaholic, 06:33 PM, 10-17-11
- RE: The leg of ???,garibaldi, 11:58 PM, 10-17-11
- RE: The leg of ???,kidflash212, 10:03 AM, 10-18-11
- Thailand, redux,Max Headroom, 08:30 AM, 10-24-11
- RE: Thailand, redux,Estee, 01:09 PM, 10-24-11
- RE: Thailand, redux,Earl Colby Pottinger, 05:43 PM, 10-24-11
- RE: Thailand, redux,Earl Colby Pottinger, 05:45 PM, 10-24-11
- RE: Thailand, redux,Earl Colby Pottinger, 05:49 PM, 10-24-11
- RE: Thailand, redux,PsychoKitty, 06:58 PM, 10-24-11
- Malawi,Estee, 06:22 AM, 10-31-11
- RE: Malawi,Max Headroom, 07:59 AM, 10-31-11
- RE: Malawi,Molaholic, 10:03 AM, 10-31-11
- RE: Malawi,Estee, 10:24 AM, 10-31-11
- RE: Malawi,Colonel Zoidberg, 01:03 PM, 11-05-11
- RE: Malawi,Draco Malfoy, 11:19 AM, 10-31-11
- RE: Malawi,Estee, 01:11 PM, 10-31-11
- RE: Malawi,Draco Malfoy, 10:50 PM, 10-31-11
- RE: Malawi,Estee, 06:18 AM, 11-01-11
- RE: Malawi,PsychoKitty, 03:52 PM, 10-31-11
- RE: Malawi,Draco Malfoy, 10:55 PM, 10-31-11
- RE: Malawi,emydi, 10:44 AM, 11-01-11
- Malawi II,Estee, 09:49 AM, 11-07-11
- RE: Malawi II,jbug, 10:44 AM, 11-07-11
- RE: Malawi II,Molaholic, 10:58 AM, 11-07-11
- Denmark,Estee, 10:51 AM, 11-14-11
- RE: Denmark,jbug, 11:01 AM, 11-14-11
- RE: Denmark,moonbaby, 11:45 AM, 11-14-11
- RE: Denmark,LeftPinky, 03:33 PM, 11-14-11
- RE: Denmark,Molaholic, 04:22 PM, 11-14-11
- RE: Denmark,olathejoe, 05:07 PM, 11-14-11
- RE: Denmark,garibaldi, 09:24 PM, 11-14-11
- RE: Denmark,featherfish81, 01:18 AM, 11-15-11
- SLAP,jbug, 10:50 AM, 11-15-11
- RE: SLAP,Draco Malfoy, 10:12 PM, 11-18-11
- Tri-Country Spectacular. ,Estee, 09:12 AM, 11-21-11
- RE: Tri-Country Spectacular. ,olathejoe, 11:34 AM, 11-21-11
- RE: Tri-Country Spectacular. ,Colonel Zoidberg, 01:03 AM, 11-22-11
- RE: Tri-Country Spectacular. ,kidflash212, 12:32 PM, 11-21-11
- RE: Tri-Country Spectacular. ,Max Headroom, 02:44 PM, 11-21-11
- RE: Tri-Country Spectacular. ,BrassFan, 10:15 PM, 11-21-11
- RE: Tri-Country Spectacular. ,samboohoo, 02:27 PM, 11-22-11
- RE: Tri-Country Spectacular. ,Earl Colby Pottinger, 05:02 PM, 11-22-11
- RE: Tri-Country Spectacular. ,jbug, 05:27 PM, 11-22-11
- RE: Tri-Country Spectacular. ,garibaldi, 01:01 AM, 11-28-11
- Belgium.,Estee, 11:19 AM, 11-28-11
- RE: Belgium.,kidflash212, 02:00 PM, 11-28-11
- RE: Belgium.,Max Headroom, 02:22 PM, 11-28-11
- RE: Belgium.,PepeLePew13, 09:28 PM, 11-29-11
- RE: Belgium.,qwertypie, 06:25 PM, 11-30-11
- RE: Belgium.,popeave, 06:33 PM, 11-30-11
- RE: Belgium.,Estee, 06:40 PM, 11-30-11
- RE: Belgium.,garibaldi, 00:51 AM, 12-05-11
- Panama,Estee, 11:42 AM, 12-05-11
- RE: Panama,kidflash212, 12:16 PM, 12-06-11
- RE: Panama,garibaldi, 10:51 PM, 12-06-11
- Atlanta.,Estee, 09:59 AM, 12-12-11
- RE: Atlanta.,qwertypie, 11:02 AM, 12-12-11
- RE: Atlanta.,jbug, 11:23 AM, 12-12-11
- RE: Atlanta.,samboohoo, 12:26 PM, 12-12-11
- RE: Atlanta.,PsychoKitty, 01:49 PM, 12-12-11
- RE: Atlanta.,PepeLePew13, 06:25 PM, 12-12-11
- RE: Atlanta.,Earl Colby Pottinger, 10:21 PM, 12-12-11
- RE: Atlanta.,Molaholic, 00:05 AM, 12-13-11
- RE: Atlanta.,garibaldi, 01:12 AM, 12-13-11
- RE: Atlanta.,kidflash212, 11:22 AM, 12-14-11
Messages in this discussion
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by samboohoo on 09-26-11 at 10:58 AM
Agree almost completely. I don't buy the Twitter crap - at least not in the way it was presented.I thought I had missed something with that first challenge.
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"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Earl Colby Pottinger on 09-26-11 at 02:11 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-26-11 AT 02:12 PM (EST)>LAST EDITED ON 09-26-11
>AT 10:33 AM (EST)
>Slap Double-elimination on the next leg shatters the
> stone around the last original commandment of the Race:
> On all legs but the final one, thou art fine unless
> thou comest in last.
Clap for me:
1) I always hated the fact the person who loses the first leg gets to do so little and does not get to travel much.
2) Mixing up the rules keeps people on their feet. The race becomes boring when everyone knows what to do based on past races.
>Slap 'And here we are reporting from Los Angeles, the
>only city Racers ever seem to leave from.'
True: But how many choices do they really have? And with the company based in LA it is a no brainer. In your defence starting the race out of BC Canada, or Washington state could be fun too.
>Slap The opening task basically broke down to
> 'Grab umbrella. Check with Phil.
Yes, that was pity-full! An easier clue with just the country's name scrambled and they having to whisper the answer to Phil would had been better. The car video gave the city name anyway.
>No hand movement For now,
>I choose to believe that a Twitter network of TAR
>fans got that passport to the airport. But don't
>push your luck.
Possible, I am hoping that is it too.
>Slap Did anyone mention leg funds? Ever?
No, but was it really needed at the start?
>Slap I'm all for nightmare
>clues that require actual brainpower to figure out, but it
>helps if they're in a language the Racers can read.
Clap for me:
The clue to find the clue WAS IN ENGLISH.
'Look up' means look up, it does not mean 'leave the square', it does not mean 'look at people's underwear'. And the fact that only one team wasted 4 hours means it was solvable by anyone who looked up and asked people to translate the signs visible.
>Oh, and convince me the guy
>in red-and-yellow boxers wasn't a plant.
Okay, he looked human to me ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/Images/happy.gif)
>No hand movement
Same:
>But I suppose it would
>have been too much to
>ask for the monk to
>say "Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha... NO!"?
Confucius says:
Monk who waits and laughs lasts, laughs best. ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/Images/happy.gif)
>Shrug Did anyone else feel like the rowing challenge was
>half a Detour where no one took the other option?
> (Tell me they all completed the course on one
>try. I could use the laugh.)
You asked, so they all finished in one try!
>Slap A Hazard is a
>Speed Bump is a 'We're
>Still Trying To Work This
>Out.'
But I liked it!
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Joools on 09-26-11 at 04:01 PM
True: But how many choices do they really have? And with the company based in LA it is a no brainer. In your defence starting the race out of BC Canada, or Washington state could be fun too.They spend weeks sending production crews around the world, I think it's in the realm of plausibility that they could start the race somewhere besides L.A. once in a while. Any city with an airport serving international destinations would do. Miami, Denver, Seattle, Minneapolis/St. Paul...pick one.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by MsShel330 on 09-27-11 at 09:05 PM
>True: But how many choices do
>they really have? And with
>the company based in LA
>it is a no brainer.
>In your defence starting the
>race out of BC Canada,
>or Washington state could be
>fun too.
>
>They spend weeks sending production crews
>around the world, I think
>it's in the realm of
>plausibility that they could start
>the race somewhere besides L.A.
>once in a while.
>Any city with an airport
>serving international destinations would do.
> Miami, Denver, Seattle, Minneapolis/St.
>Paul...pick one.
I'd love to see them start from different cities in the US.
Also, I liked the non-elim leg in the 1st. It lets us get to know the racers better and ITA it keeps them off balance as to when the non-elims will come. I'll be interested to see how they do the double elimination next week.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by cahaya on 09-27-11 at 03:43 PM
I always hated the fact the person who loses the first leg gets to do so little and does not get to travel much.Yeah to this. At least this way, the last place team gets to go for two weeks instead of one. And, as before, the next to last one goes home in two weeks too.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Molaholic on 09-26-11 at 06:14 PM
Slap - That opening "task". As I recall, the Voice Over Guy did say something about using the letters to figure out the initial destination. I didn't see anyone actually do that...slap - Well, I've already posted my thoughts on the magic passport (or maybe it was the All Powerful Passport Gnome at work...)
clap - I thought it was a clever segue to go from a Buddhist Temple in L.A. to the Confucian Temple in Taipei.
slap - and the difference between a "Hazard" and a "Speed Bump" is what exactly? (besides giving the guys making the props a little work over the summer)
slap - What's this about "the first time in TAR history to have a double elimination round". What about the times when the team finishing the pre-challenge were eliminated? And I also recall a mid-leg Philimination station at least once.
clap - No real clap -- I just didn't want to end with another slap.
"Claps & slaps &..."
Posted by cahaya on 09-27-11 at 03:35 AM
... recaps!Complete with team introductions for people like me who often get them confused.That passport thing seemed rather, ummm, fortuitous.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Max Headroom on 09-27-11 at 11:30 AM
No hand movement Double elimination next episode. There's past history of a team being eliminated mid-leg, and that's more tolerable than having the last two teams show up at the mat get Philiminated.Slap Giving the last team to find the right umbrella an extra "Hazard" task? Isn't finishing last enough of a penalty?
Clap I'm in the minority on this one, but I liked the Twitterific way the lost passport made it back to its owner. Though the Vegas showgirls are extreme long shots to win, it would've svcked for them to get Philiminated at the starting line over a dropped passport, just like it svcked for Zev and Justin.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by kingfish on 09-27-11 at 02:09 PM
So, they (the two girls) are leaving the gas station, and the camera looks down at the passport lying in the ground, then up at the girl's SUV as it was leaving, the camera obviously being apart from their SUV at that point.Did the cameraman assigned to the girls just bail on them in order to get that shot? Or did their cameraman ask them to leave while he filmed them as they were leaving, then return for him? If either was so, did that not raise their suspicion into the red zone that something odd was happening?
Or do they assign a chaser camera in a separate vehicle to each team?
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Max Headroom on 09-27-11 at 02:21 PM
The camera operator probably took the passport-on-the-ground shot while the girls were inside the gas station asking for directions.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by cahaya on 09-27-11 at 03:26 PM
Very likely, yeah. The gals were so inattentive, though, that he could have shot that after they both hopped in the Explorer, with the shot made just before driving off.We don't have any shots of the guy actually finding the passport, which would happen if the camera operator was still around. But just the mere presence of two teams with camera operators in tow arriving separately on those premises was enough to alert any bystander what was going on.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by kingfish on 09-27-11 at 07:58 PM
There was one final shot of the girls driving off and leaving the station, then a pan to and a close up of the passport in the middle of the empty pavement of the gas station. Either they left their personal cameraman there, or they left and then had to come back for him, or there was a second cameraman in a chase vehicle.
It's possible that a second team arrived after the girls got there and that their cameraman just got the shot serendipitously, and given there were earlier shots of the passport on the ground by the SUV before they left, indicating that the camera crew were onto the unfolding drama, although unlikely this is just barely possible.
IMO, however it happened, you got to give it to production for being right on top of that.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by cahaya on 09-27-11 at 08:18 PM
Yeah, you're right now that you mention it... there's a shot of the SUV driving off with empty pavement and the passport sitting there for anyone to clearly see.Now all the camera operator has to do is just stand there aiming the camera at the passport until somebody fortuitously walks by and ask themselves, "why is that guy aiming his camera at that thing on the ground"?
Yup, rather observant of them. Of course, with 18 prior seasons of practice, they know what to look out for, as they've probably seen just about everything.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Draco Malfoy on 10-05-11 at 07:50 PM
I *think* what they do there to preserve the "reality" of shots like that is that the teams get in the car and their camera crew films them driving away a bit, then gets in once the cameras are off. I seem to remember reading that somewhere, but damn if I can remember where.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by cahaya on 09-27-11 at 03:41 PM
Slap: Early Hazard? It's bad enough to finish last to the mat and get lucky enough to continue but penalized for it. But placing last in the very first challenge that was pretty much the luck of the draw the way everyone was lining up to show umbrellas with repeated, "That's not correct."?Clap: Starting at a Buddhist retreat in California and going to one in Taiwan.
Slap: Billboard clue in Chinese script. Yikes, methinks everyone was looking for something a bit more obvious in English, even in plain sight of the billboard.
Clap: Dragon boat race! I've been to a few and the atmosphere is fantastic to experience.
Slap: I've been to Taipei several times, and I never saw a four-star general strolling in the park to greet visitors. I can easily think of several other cultural greeters (like a dance troupe or artist or pop idol) than a military general.
Clap: Five minutes of fame for someone actually helping out a team and returning a lost passport. And in L.A. of all places, where a black market stolen U.S. passport can fetch a grand.
Slap: Bungee jumping is a hazard?
Clap: Season 19.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Colonel Zoidberg on 09-27-11 at 11:04 PM
Slap The opening task was stupid and pointless. More stupid and pointless than the previous season with all the stupid paper airplanes. At least they had some clue what the hell they were looking for then. This season? Pick the right umbrella. Lame, lame, lame.Hair yank So...there are other cities you can open the Race in besides Los Angeles. And you are aware of this fact, correct? I mean, for Pete's sake, Green Bay, Wisconsin has the Super Bowl champs and can't get TAR anywhere near there. Is this why L.A. can't get an NFL team, people? Is TAR too powerful an influence? Sheesh. And yes, I know they recently opened in Massachusetts and once in San Diego. But since All-Stars...that's still six out of eight openings in L.A. That's a little ridiculous.
Head scratcher Given that LA is a big city, plenty of people are good Samaritans, and plenty more are good DAWs, it is possible that someone went out of his way to give someone a passport back. It is possible. Not for sure. But it could have happened. It's plausible enough that I could conceivably put it into a fanfic. It's no less plausible than a chubby law student with a bad knee beating a rough-and-tumble jock in a footrace. So I'll give it a pass.
Noogie Clever idea to have a clue like that one at the market district, or whatever the hell Taipei calls their version of Times Square, blend in. Only problem? It worked a little too well.
Ear flick Is the Hazard really that much different from the Speed Bump? Couldn't they make them trek through about a hundred yards of cow poop to their next clue instead?
Nudge The Express Pass has run its course. Besides, both teams that won it on past seasons finished in the glorious position of third, where this incarnation of the Fighting Banana Slugs, a.k.a. Ernie and Cindy, are probably destined.
Clap So it took 15 seasons to cast an interracial couple. And it took only four to cast another. And for this issue to fade quietly in the background. (Just watch - starting next episode, they won't shut up about it. I'm always a jinx.)
Right hook So NEL is now followed by double elimination, which totally defeats the purpose of the NEL in the first place - and puts in an extra NEL, which everyone hates. That or, Bruck forbid, someone comes back later (DISCLAIMER: I assume no responsibility if Bruck actually puts in a zombie team in this or any future season. So nyah.) Since this isn't exactly something they try on a regular basis, did anyone in production ever consider why they don't do it? It's sort of like staging a Running of the Mountain Lions or putting a hockey team in Miami - there's a reason no one ever tried it before. Because it's a damn stupid idea.
Left hook Also, in TAR10, they also tried the double-elimination, so it's not exactly a first-time experience for TAR. It fizzled then, and it'll fizzle worse now.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Max Headroom on 09-28-11 at 09:24 AM
Maybe they can throw a U-Turn into the double elimination concept. The U-Turn is always fatal anyway...
"Indonesia. "
Posted by Estee on 10-03-11 at 04:48 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-11 AT 04:49 PM (EST)Clap The charity hit was a good idea, both in depriving the Racers of funds and calling attention to the need for more donations. (I'm also assuming the orphanage got a fee for serving as a clue site.) Always nice to see the show kicking in where it can do some good -- but you really should have flashed a number/website/address on the screen.
No hand movement The sign was prominent. The sign was in plain sight. The sign was in English. Therefore, anything that happens is Casting's problem. Casting's major problem.
Slap Wasting a perfectly good cave. I understand you want the Player Lost In The Dark shots, but not giving us any night vision shots or 'before they arrived' vistas meant we couldn't really appreciate the beauty of a special location. When they're not around, hit the lights.
Slap The rung spacing on the exit ladder. You have varying heights among your teams. Give the shorter players their own section.
Slap Mandatory for the first giant bunch point. Seriously, shouldn't having one team finishing nearly six and a half hours behind the leaders have some consequence?
Slap Well, so much for the drama of a double elimination. (By the way, technically, every elimination before this was a double.)
Clap While the Detour was ultimately repetitive -- no matter which branch you turned to, you were ultimately looking like a fool while begging people for money -- it was also balanced and came across as being fair to all teams.
No hand movement I normally wouldn't approve of telling Racers exactly what they forgot to do: sending them back to figure it out on their own is more interesting. On the other hand, I do realize a three-day leg would have thrown the schedule off.
"RE: Indonesia. "
Posted by moonbaby on 10-03-11 at 07:21 PM
Slap: for making me sad that a couple of the teams I'd hoped would go far ended up eliminated. Slap: showing so much of the sibling fighting. We got the point after about ten seconds.
Clap: I loved the tiny details aspect of that sign. And that the first team to notice was the snowboarder dudes.
Very much agree about the wasted moment for the orphanage charity and about the cave. That was too bad.
"RE: Indonesia. "
Posted by Earl Colby Pottinger on 10-04-11 at 09:20 AM
>LAST EDITED ON 10-03-11
>AT 04:49 PM (EST)
>>Slap Wasting a perfectly good
>cave. ..... When they're
>not around, hit the lights.
Must agree 200%, that cave looked like it was a special sight.
>Slap The rung spacing on
>the exit ladder. You
>have varying heights among your
>teams. Give the shorter
>players their own section.
But DON'T TELL THEM. ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/Images/happy.gif)
>Slap Mandatory for the first
>giant bunch point. Seriously,
>shouldn't having one team finishing
>nearly six and a half
>hours behind the leaders have
>some consequence?
>
>Slap Well, so much for
>the drama of a double
>elimination.
Am I the only person who loved it?
>
>Clap -- no matter
>which branch you turned to,
>you were ultimately looking like
>a fool while begging people
>for money -- it was
>also balanced and came across
>as being fair to all
>teams.
Having all the money begged going to help other people is a big plus. Include two millionaires begging is the icing on the cake.
>No hand movement I normally
>wouldn't approve of telling Racers
>exactly what they forgot to
>do: sending them back
>to figure it out on
>their own is more interesting.
> On the other hand,
>I do realize a three-day
>leg would have thrown the
>schedule off.
But it would had been fun! I wonder which teams would have messed up more than once and had to wait for other teams to clue them in.
"RE: Indonesia. "
Posted by Molaholic on 10-04-11 at 10:03 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-04-11 AT 10:05 AM (EST)Clap Ditto the money-to-the-orphanage claps
No Hand Movement (other than a single digit) Whatever happened to the Local Greeter?
"RE: Indonesia. "
Posted by featherfish81 on 10-04-11 at 11:46 AM
This one might be debatable, butSlap for putting the obscure billboard clue in a country where everything is the race colors. After seeing the shots of how lots of awnings and signs were yellow and red, it doesn't surprise me that most of the teams just assumed that the billboard wasn't part of the race too.
"RE: Indonesia. "
Posted by Earl Colby Pottinger on 10-05-11 at 03:28 PM
While true, that does not explain why so many left the square while looking for the clue.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Estee on 10-10-11 at 08:44 AM
Slap Repeat after me:"If any team gives any other a solution, hint, or false lead during a puzzle challenge, the giving team shall receive a fifteen-minute time penalty for each receiving team, cumulative."
That ought to shut them up in a hurry.
Mini-Slap If not for the equipment malfunction, everyone would have ended the bicycle tour in the same position they began. Regulating speed like that doesn't make for the most exciting race.
Clap Nicely deceptive Detour. 'Sure, we can do three hundred little things or we can do three medium-sized ones. Let's go for the three!' And they forget that the middle portion will be actively trying to run away from them every chance it gets. The seedlings gave teams time and the sheep took it away...
No hand movement Racers unable to read clues has been the hallmark of the season-to-date, but I can't fault the wording on the temple one unless I get to read it word for word.
Clap Some good locations on this leg, and the temple was a treat. (International visitors entrance?)
Slap Too much reliance on taxis in this country. I know you don't want newbies dealing with suicide traffic, but the early stages have presented very few chances for teams to get themselves car-lost. Trade the occasional near-miss for a safer area with twisting roads.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Max Headroom on 10-10-11 at 09:11 AM
Slap For Race rules allowing four teams to collaborate on the temple counting task. I find that much more offensive than one team trying to help another team, which at least can be considered strategic.Combined: Clap No bunch point this leg. Slap Linear tasks with few chances for teams to move up/down in the standings.
Clap The temple was a great backdrop for Race activities.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-10-11 at 09:28 AM
I don't know - at least if teams collaborate, they are participating in the task, where just giving the answer to another team lets that teams completely skip the task. I don't even get the strategy in this case - I could understand trying to keep Bill & Cathi in the Race as they would be easy to beat but keeping Marcus?
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-10-11 at 09:34 AM
Clap Tasks have included a mental element that has been missing in recent Races.Clap Borobudur Temple. Looks incredible.
Slap Three legs in the same country?
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Molaholic on 10-10-11 at 10:29 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-10-11 AT 09:39 PM (EST)Clap Borobudur Temple. Add the fact that teams were required to adhere to specific decorum rules (no running, wearing the sarong, etc.) With several of the teams even going to the extreme of sitting in the lotus position to give the answer this actually gets a High Five as well.
Slap Yes, the bicycle task was a waste of time (unless you're in to irritating bell ringing).
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eta: Clap Two weeks in a row for Andy/Tommy to benefit from folks not following the letter-of-the-clue. WAY TO GO, DUDES!
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by michel on 10-10-11 at 04:26 PM
>Clap Jims Casino
I certainly clap to that also as I think I'm still number 1!!
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by michel on 10-10-11 at 04:24 PM
>Slap Repeat after me:
>
>"If any team gives any other
>a solution, hint, or false
>lead during a puzzle challenge,
>the giving team shall receive
>a fifteen-minute time penalty for
>each receiving team, cumulative."
>
>That ought to shut them up
>in a hurry. I completely disagree. Every reality TV show needs some strategy to be entertaining. So, I Clap that they are allowed to help another team.
What I Slap are courses designed in such a way that one team can simply follow the others.
>Mini-Slap If not for the
>equipment malfunction, everyone would have
>ended the bicycle tour in
>the same position they began.
> Regulating speed like that
>doesn't make for the most
>exciting race.
Big Slap: I think the pedal malfunction was pre-arranged so that Ernie and Cindy would have to use the Express Pass. When has a pedal fallen of your bike? Why didn't one of the accompaniers give Ernie his bike?
>Clap Nicely deceptive Detour.
>'Sure, we can do three
>hundred little things or we
>can do three medium-sized ones.
> Let's go for the
>three!' And they forget
>that the middle portion will
>be actively trying to run
>away from them every chance
>it gets. The seedlings
>gave teams time and the
>sheep took it away...
Clap AND Slap I found it really interesting that Rice field was easier. It will force them to think even more about their choice.
BUT, on the other hand, there was absolutely no way that Cathi's bag was full when she reached the end. She had taken so many falls that there was more grass in her hair than in her bag. I guess they want to protect the old folks because viewers like old folks.
>Clap Some good locations on
>this leg, and the temple
>was a treat.
That Temple was wonderful. One of the best combination of Location/Task ever.
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Thanks Agman!
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by jbug on 10-10-11 at 04:54 PM
protect the old folks because viewers like old folks.and some of the viewers are old folks... ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/Images/wink.gif)
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"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by michel on 10-10-11 at 05:40 PM
I'd love to be on the race but I wouldn't expect preferential treatment. We even saw that her bag half full.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by garibaldi on 10-12-11 at 01:38 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-12-11 AT 01:39 AM (EST) SLAP - for allowing the girls with the biggest....eyes.. to be eliminated one leg before the swimming/bikini challenges.
CLAP - Was it just me or did Phil almost tear up and his voice break a bit when he told her he didn't think her daughter would be disappointed by her performance. He's a great host, nothing phoney about him.
SUGGESTION: Why not add a timer on the screen for each team working on a tough challenge, like a stopwatch.
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by jbug on 10-12-11 at 09:39 AM
Welcome gari!
I've been wanting that timer for years!
"RE: Production: claps & slaps"
Posted by Earl Colby Pottinger on 10-13-11 at 11:38 AM
>Slap Repeat after me:
>
>"If any team gives any other
>a solution, hint, or false
>lead during a puzzle challenge,
>the giving team shall receive
>a fifteen-minute time penalty for
>each receiving team, cumulative."
>
>That ought to shut them up
>in a hurry. Note: in this case the order of the top two teams would had swapped but no other change would had taken place.
I prefer 5 minute penalty - but cumulative to all teams the info passes to.
If team A tells team B then team A has a 5 minute penalty.
But if team B tells team C then team A has 10 minutes and team B 5 minutes in penalty.
"The leg of ???"
Posted by Estee on 10-17-11 at 10:37 AM
I had a power blackout. You tell me.
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by michel on 10-17-11 at 01:10 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-17-11 AT 01:11 PM (EST)Andy and Tommy won the stage. Shocked?
Slaps Bunching point and NEL. But that is old news. The snowboarders and the sailors had the wrong flight to Phuk-it. Despite being the first to leave, they landed last. Without that bunching point it would have been fun to see them fight their way back up in the standings. The NEL meant the twins are staying one more week.
Clap: The detour gave teams a chance to play a part in restoring the coral reef but...
Slap...the task was so hard that only 2 teams completed it. All the others switched detour and put out chairs on the beach so that the Fat Cats of Phuk-It could install their derrières instead.
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by Molaholic on 10-17-11 at 06:23 PM
Andy and Tommy won the stage. Shocked?
Uhhh -- How could she be "shocked" when she had no power???
**scurries back into the safety of my nearby mole-hole
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by michel on 10-17-11 at 06:36 PM
LoL! Ever heard of static electricity?
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by Earl Colby Pottinger on 10-19-11 at 03:57 PM
Was the task hard, or were the racers being lazy?It looked like the frame needed some solid pounding together to make it firm, no just pushing tubes into tube - whack it with a rock/hammer pounding was needed at each and ever junction.
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by jbug on 10-17-11 at 01:26 PM
SLAP: production for no life vests in the speed boats. That surprised me.
Life vests for rowing a kayak out on the reef but not for riding on the bow of a fast speed boat?CLAP: "I like the beard" comment on the PS mat.
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by michel on 10-17-11 at 03:08 PM
Yeah, I noticed the lack of life vest also. Weird that they wouldn't think of safety first.
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by Earl Colby Pottinger on 10-19-11 at 03:53 PM
Aside that Asia tends to have lower safety standards, on any modern design all the cushions of the seating are floats, meaning if the boat sank there would be tons of stuff to hang onto if needed.Additional, if the boat is one of the fiberglass-over-foam designs being made for the last couple of decades, it can't sink at-all even if you cut it in half.
They were probably safe at all times, short of jumping out of the boat on purpose.
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by jbug on 10-19-11 at 07:56 PM
My thought was more of the danger if they had fallen out of the boat, not the boat wrecking or sinking.They were going really fast; most were standing in the bow of the boat.
Then it appeared they wore vests when they got into the kayaks; yet they'd have to take the vest off to dive to the bottom, right?
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by moonbaby on 10-17-11 at 01:41 PM
Clap: having the teams look for the ocean outcroppings that matched the coin they were given. That was cool.Clap: lovely scenery and the sweeping camera shots over the water. Made me want to go there BAD.
Clap/Slap: Cathi falling down repeatedly saying "I'm good." It was funny for a couple of times. Then they got carried away with it. As they did with the cut to the snickering natives at the beach set up spot. *shame rattle*
Slap: Phil's immunity necklace. Hoping he takes it to a "we buy gold!" place so I never have to see it again.
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by Molaholic on 10-17-11 at 06:33 PM
Slap and Clap together : Giving us repeated mispronunciations of Phuket, thereby allowing Laurence to drop an 'inadvertent' F-bomb that still passed muster with the standards and practices folks
.Clap : For the attempt to make the Earth just a little greener, coral-wise.
Slap : L&Z --- world class sailors getting bungled by a ship's compass (with accompanying foreshadowing comment).
and the biggest SLAP of all to Estee's power provider!
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by garibaldi on 10-17-11 at 11:58 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-18-11 AT 00:00 AM (EST)CLAP - A really physically demanding leg
SLAP - How many teams actually looked for alternate flights/routes while they were at Yogjakarta airport? The amount of time spent at the airport really didn't justify the payoff of the first two teams arriving in Phuket last.
SLAP - Surely they could have found some fetching young Thai thing to greet teams at the mat? Where did they dig up that old fossil?
Re safety issues, guys how many of you have ever been to Southeast Asia or Asia in general? Life is cheap.
"RE: The leg of ???"
Posted by kidflash212 on 10-18-11 at 10:03 AM
Hey a newbie! Welcome garibaldi!
Capn2patch put me in motion!
"Thailand, redux"
Posted by Max Headroom on 10-24-11 at 08:30 AM
Slap For the blatant production intervention when Liz/Marie's bus left without them. Does anyone really believe the bus company voluntarily stopped the bus somewhere down the road to wait for foreign tourists with money problems?Slap For the blatant production intervention with Liz/Marie's "free" taxi rides. The producers paid the fares just to get Liz/Marie to the mat for Philimination instead of having to send Phil to find them in some random spot in Bangkok.
Clap The speed bump took a little more time than usual, and making the penalized team shovel dung was a great idea.
Clap Loved the elephant ride. Whether or not it affected the race outcome, it was fun to watch.
Clap For the limited bunch point at the bus terminal. I expected there to be one overnight bus to Bangkok which didn't leave until after all teams arrived at the terminal.
Slap Why bring the teams to Bangkok, have them ride a couple of places by taxi, then send them to the pit stop? Guess they needed everyone near the airport for the next leg to ensure the proper bunch point.
"RE: Thailand, redux"
Posted by Estee on 10-24-11 at 01:09 PM
Slap Thirteen hours on a bus just to go feed some fish? Max is right: there are times when the teams have been moved in the night during rest periods so they could start off closer to their bunch point, and this should have been one of them.Clap Double Roadblocks with forced participation are still new enough that Racers aren't used to them and don't prepare for the prospect. (But the first one was far too easy when compared to the second.)
Clap Good use of the spirit house and subsequent setting -- regardless of what a given team might think.
Slap This was one of those times when we really needed a clock on the screen. How did some teams get tied up enough to hit the bus station five hours after departure? Six? Twelve? How long were they on the elephant? What was the commute time to get those notes they should have taken originally? Just how bad was the traffic? We missed a lot of information, and the cumulative result just looked off.
Clap Vastly improved Speed Bump.
Slap And the last time a bus stopped some distance away from the original starting gate and waited for two ordinary passengers was...? Who was driving that thing, Uchenna?
"RE: Thailand, redux"
Posted by Earl Colby Pottinger on 10-24-11 at 05:43 PM
I am not so sure about your second slap. Are not twins in Asia considered very lucky, and that is why the cabbies took them?I could be wrong and mixing up with another part of the world.
"RE: Thailand, redux"
Posted by Earl Colby Pottinger on 10-24-11 at 05:45 PM
Looks like I am wrong: http://ask-a-chinese-guy.blogspot.com/2011/05/twins.html
"RE: Thailand, redux"
Posted by Earl Colby Pottinger on 10-24-11 at 05:49 PM
But in West Africa they are: http://www.sfu.ca/archaeology/museum/ndi/mystudy.html
"RE: Thailand, redux"
Posted by PsychoKitty on 10-24-11 at 06:58 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-24-11 AT 07:16 PM (EST)Slap - contestant gufu ;)
My favorites Andy & Tommy taking the opportunity to say "we know there is only 1 God" Gag. . . I want to LVOE them! ;) Howzabout God is worshipped in many ways by people around the world and treat all rituals & methods with respect. (Which they did, I'm not saying they didn't. Well actually I didn't like it but they weren't awful about it . . . ) But I am tired of this being an issue in our divided society . . .
I admit knee jerk reaction on my part! But our contestants need to be a little more worldly!!! I don't want "to go all Weaver on their A$$! ;)
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"Malawi"
Posted by Estee on 10-31-11 at 06:22 AM
Clap Well, we haven't been here before...Slap What a fun cultural lesson, learning about the assembly of do-it-yourself toy trucks. What a moral compass for the Racers, realizing they have it better than they ever suspected. What a cheap move by the producers, never lingering on that address sign long enough for the casual viewer to write it down, providing contact information, or just outright donating a bunch of toys to the school.
This does not exclude the possibility that it happened off-camera and many of us believe task sites get paid. But this is the second time we've seen a group of kids in need of donations and no contact data has been given.
No hand movement So were the warehouse workers doing their own jobs and the interference was unintentional, or was this a group holiday where they just decided to mess with the fresh meat?
Slap This one's a double-hander: one for the producers, one for the storage facility, and it's the same cause: where were the air filter masks? Spend a day in the warehouse breathing in tobacco and it's all you'll be able to smell for th rest of the week. For the employees, make that the rest of their lives. Even if the unprocessed product doesn't act as an inhaled potential carcinogen, how much good are the constant fumes doing for your olfactory nerves?
Clap Gotta wonder just how many of the teams thought they'd have to carry the beds more than five feet off the truck...
Clap Technician on hand (called for on camera at one point) to help those doing the sewing Detour branch get the balky machines running again. Most people have never seen those models: asking teams to do their own repairs is too much.
No hand movement This borders on a Slap, but has to stay neutral: until we get more information about the wording of the clue, we don't know if anything was said about paying the final truck drivers who brought the teams to the Pit Stop. We can't rely on the incredible not-reading skills of the ex-teachers -- but they weren't the only ones to make the mistake. Was there anything in the text to indicate the last road run wasn't a freebie? We may never know.
"RE: Malawi"
Posted by Max Headroom on 10-31-11 at 07:59 AM
Slap Too.many.non.elimination.legs!Slap Linear legs after a big bunch point place too much emphasis on being first out of the airport. Get a slow, nitpicky customs agent? Meet the Philiminator.
Clap Echoing Estee, I like new destinations, and Malawi was new.
Clap Loved the cheering, dancing warehouse workers.
Clap Carrying their own beds to the pit stop was a nice finishing touch.
Slap Lots of chances for racers to get hurt in this episode. Minimal protective equipment at the tobacco warehouse, racers riding in haphazard places on randomly-designed trucks, etc.
"RE: Malawi"
Posted by Molaholic on 10-31-11 at 10:03 AM
Clap Ditto on the lesson about life in the Third World.Slap Laurence and his 1950s attitude about women-folk being born to sew.
Slap A tobacco warehouse?
Slap Come on, producers, give us a little Malawi history lesson -- after all, you did take us to the Memorial Tower.
Slap, Boot the the Head, & Kick in the Youknowwhats NEL!!!
"RE: Malawi"
Posted by Estee on 10-31-11 at 10:24 AM
Slap Come on, producers, give us a little Malawi history lesson -- after all, you did take us to the Memorial Tower.Ditto this. I spent that whole segment waiting for Phil to tell us what it was memorializing.
"RE: Malawi"
Posted by Colonel Zoidberg on 11-05-11 at 01:03 PM
A tobacco warehouse?Considering that TAR actually bans Racers from using tobacco...but then mandates that they haul it? I guess making people drink absinthe as a punishment for finishing last wasn't enough (and considering one of the participants was a teetotaler...imagine if he had been a recovering alcoholic. Lawsuit, meet TAR.)
TAR needs to be a little more consistent with its policy on substances already.
"RE: Malawi"
Posted by Draco Malfoy on 10-31-11 at 11:19 AM
Slap YMMV on this one, but I found one thing really odd: Every other time a team has incurred a penalty or had to go back and complete a task, they were told immediately what to do before anyone else was checked in.Last night when Bill and Cathi checked in the first time, they were told to stand aside while Jeremy and Sandy (I think) where checked in, then Bill and Cathi were told what they needed to do. It ended up not affecting things (since they didn't finish last and it was a NEL,) but Phil cost the older team a little time, which, if it came down to a footrace between them the NFL player and his wife, could've cost them the leg.
I realize that J & S were standing right there, but it just seemed a very odd departure from the usual to me, and if Bill and Cathi had been eliminated because of that, they would've had cause for complaint, IMO.
"RE: Malawi"
Posted by Estee on 10-31-11 at 01:11 PM
*nods* I can see that. The argument for not holding J&S up might be that it affects their departure time -- but if the producers are smart enough to figure that one out, they should also have enough brainpower to take one minute off that particular Pit Stop clock. You're right -- the way it went down is a little weird.
"RE: Malawi"
Posted by Draco Malfoy on 10-31-11 at 10:50 PM
Considering that last week we saw people standing to the side when there was a near-tie, I don't think it would've made that much difference to their start time for Phil to tell them what they needed to do *first*.
"RE: Malawi"
Posted by Estee on 11-01-11 at 06:18 AM
One thing I have noticed over the seasons (insert your own 'only one?' jokes here) is that when two teams hit the mat in a virtual tie, the next departure has them leaving a minute apart.Which doesn't even remotely apply here, but I'm operating on very little sleep and felt like mentioning it.
"RE: Malawi"
Posted by PsychoKitty on 10-31-11 at 03:52 PM
I noticed that too - it was very odd. And I was praying they wouldn't be eliminated by it.... And then NO ONE WAS!!!! WTF ANOTHER NON ELIM?????!!!!!![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/438d6d262089cbff.gif)
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"RE: Malawi"
Posted by Draco Malfoy on 10-31-11 at 10:55 PM
The wife and I both were annoyed by it, and while I have no problem with Amani and Marcus, I was very relieved when they passed them on the way back.And we usually get 3 non-elims a season, so it didn't bother me too much. When we get to number 4 though...
"RE: Malawi"
Posted by emydi on 11-01-11 at 10:44 AM
I think the 1st didn't count bc of double elimination the next week. I think the number of weeks left in season to finale means we'll have one more NEL
"Malawi II"
Posted by Estee on 11-07-11 at 09:49 AM
LAST EDITED ON 11-14-11 AT 04:09 PM (EST)Clap Gosh, there's a lot to do here. The decision to give the country an extra showcase leg was the right one,
Clap Great choice of Pit Stop and mini-history lesson (although a little more explanation would have helped, as most Americans barely speak History).
!Slap! Let's talk about the Lugout branch of the Detour. Production has no way of knowing which teams are going to reach this point in the course. Challenges are chosen before the teams are cast. All challenges do not have to be exactly suited to every team, but each team should have a chance to complete every task.
Now. Go ahead and tell me the twins were going to carry eight people to shore on their shoulders.
Right. They'd still be in the lake, at least if the local authorities hadn't successfully dredged up the bodies. Combine that with the Double U-Turn factor and you potentially have another Eliminate One Team Free on your hands. Bad design, horrible challenge, and a chance for a perfect storm of boot-to-the-face. It was dodged this time. On the next go-round...
Slap Seriously: no one could be bothered to check the bikes?
No hand movement The new U-Turn notice board. Gluing the pictures on was inherently funnier (and would have been more suitable to the setting). I suppose it's a chance to show off the new budget, but it mostly came across as a waste of money.
Clap Okay, now we're getting closer to what a Speed Bump should be in terms of challenge. Keep going on this general path.
Slap Commercial break in the middle of a footrace for first, huh? Tell your editing import from TBL s/he's fired.
"RE: Malawi II"
Posted by jbug on 11-07-11 at 10:44 AM
SLAP: Andy & Tommy (I'm repeating what I posted in ECST).When A & T were jumping off the canoe & running the beach, sorta playing w/ the kids, I was liking them - such a fun attitude.
Then? they smashed it for me.
I just knew they'd get 10 feet from the mat & hit the brakes, allowing Ernie & Cindy to pass them.
I realize it is a race. But leaving first on the next leg by a couple of seconds is not going to help them.
They'd won 3 prizes - default prizes. Why not show some good will and miss this one? Could have meant big down the line if they need help & E & C are around to give it. E& C could very easily have U-turned them this leg (& probably wish they had).
As it is, now they are the target. And I hope a u-turn is used on them.
"RE: Malawi II"
Posted by Molaholic on 11-07-11 at 10:58 AM
Clap More Malawi! Slap Yea, buggie got it right. A&T should have let E&C pass them. (Plus, it would have given me a perfect bet in Jims Casino, with the Keeper bonus thrown in!!)