Please place all commentary in this thread until the show has aired on the West Coast, and have PHUN

• RE: S45 - Finale - East Coast Update Thread,Flowerpower1, 09:16 PM, 12-20-23
• post intro,Flowerpower1, 09:22 PM, 12-20-23
  • Probe Talks too much,michel2, 09:29 PM, 12-20-23
• Question FP,michel2, 09:32 PM, 12-20-23
  • RE: Question FP,Flowerpower1, 09:42 PM, 12-20-23
    • RE: Question FP,michel2, 09:57 PM, 12-20-23
      • RE: Question FP,Sheldor, 01:23 PM, 12-22-23
        • RE: Question FP,michel2, 09:16 PM, 12-23-23
• come on in,Flowerpower1, 09:38 PM, 12-20-23
• Could it be?,michel2, 09:44 PM, 12-20-23
  • RE: Could it be?,Sheldor, 01:38 PM, 12-22-23
    • RE: Could it be?,michel2, 09:21 PM, 12-23-23
• Post IC,Flowerpower1, 09:52 PM, 12-20-23
  • Craziest F5 vote Ever,michel2, 09:53 PM, 12-20-23
• TC at F5,Flowerpower1, 10:03 PM, 12-20-23
• That was Something,michel2, 10:14 PM, 12-20-23
• Could have been Dee out, but....,Flowerpower1, 10:21 PM, 12-20-23
  • Can Kat take out Austin?,michel2, 10:25 PM, 12-20-23
• Post challenge drama,Flowerpower1, 10:31 PM, 12-20-23
• Best laid plans....,Flowerpower1, 10:42 PM, 12-20-23
• The Spoiler wasn't Exact,michel2, 10:45 PM, 12-20-23
• Fire making: Jake v Katurah,Flowerpower1, 10:51 PM, 12-20-23
• Post TC....,Flowerpower1, 11:04 PM, 12-20-23
  • One of the Best Moments Ever,michel2, 11:14 PM, 12-20-23
• No Jake votes shown,michel2, 11:20 PM, 12-20-23
  • RE: No Jake votes shown,michel2, 11:21 PM, 12-20-23
• TC....,Flowerpower1, 11:29 PM, 12-20-23
• VOTE,Flowerpower1, 11:36 PM, 12-20-23
  • RE: VOTE,michel2, 11:39 PM, 12-20-23
  • RE: VOTE,Sheldor, 01:34 PM, 12-22-23
    • RE: VOTE,michel2, 09:24 PM, 12-23-23

\Replay the TC.

back at camp Austin tells Dee he understands and he's still with her and trusts her.

meanwhile Kat cannot believe how close a pair Austin and Dee are and she's going to do something about it.

cut to intro

in the AM, they sit on the beach and see a box with directions. 3 stations around the island, crabs, coconuts and bamboo pieces. count the numbers find the combo lock and use the combination of the numbers, first person to solve earns the advantage.

GO. They are off and running.

Julie: don't know where to go

first to find is Austin with the crabs. counted 18,m and of course dee is with h I'm

next are the coconuts are Julie, Kat and Jake....
Jake needs to be accurate he's not a good runner

next see dee and Austin with the coconuts, dee and I help each other out, they count t together...

now Kat is at the crabs, angry snapping crabs...

now see Austin and dee at the bamboo stacked sticks....julie, I count 17 bamboo and I am first to the lock, but she doesn't have the right numbers.

every time you guess wrong have to go back to another station

Jake, his strategy, if he gets exit number, he matches to Survivor season, JT, Denise, Gabler is coconuts...and he gets it....Jake gets the advantage. earned an advantage in the iimmunity challenge...this could be my million dollars right here.

LAST EDITED ON 12-20-23 AT 09:30 PM (EST)

Jake only realized he was missing the keys when Probe mentioned that Austin had his.

Jake repeating a similar mistake by trying to build equal posts without a piece. Yes he is missing a piece... Upstairs!

Any particular reason why you found this season boring? Personally, I feel it is the best of the 5 new formats seasons. OK, it started off bad with those 2 quitters but it picked up nicely after the swap.

I just don't like the same format over and over. Yes, a couple of quitters, and the Reba four were tight. I did enjoy watching the Emily evolution...I guess I am just so old school. I really do not enjoy so many idols and advantages. I don't like the sanctuary, they need to be more original. I just really like a lot of plotting and scheming and snarky players, and these players leave me flat. Dee doesn't do much for me, Kat has some spunk, ...I'll add more later

I'm with you on the new format being much too formulaic. That's what ended my loyalty to the Amazing Race but I still enjoy Survivor. I'd love rewards to have a cultural side and Challenges to have a Survival side but that's long gone.

(Imagine a reward where the tribes have to find the actual, reward in the jungle given only a map and a compass.)

I also thought this was the best season of the 5 New Era seasons and by FAR the Best Winner and Runner Up.

At least things the DUMB new additions like the Hour Glass Twist, silly phrases, Idol in a bird cage, etc. were gone!

Only 4 Idols in the game (pretty typical one for each tribe and one for the merge but Belo Idol was never found; instead a 3-way shared Amulet was upgraded twice into an Idol). 3 of the 4 Idols Played (Bruce voted out with his Idol!) but 2 of the 3 plays did not save the person! (Austin's Amulet Idol at F5 and Jake's Idol played on Katurah). Only Julie's play of Austin's Idol saved herself.

2 Shot In The Dark Played. Kaleb Saved himself. Jake's (of course!) was NOT safe

So seasons 41-45, 45 felt like it had the least number of Idols, Advantages, etc.

Re: "cultural side"
I MISS that from the old days but every season is now in Fiji so all we would get Fiji culture over and over. We need new locations but that will never happen!

You put your finger on one of the biggest reasons why this season was better when you mentioned all the dumb things they dropped especially the dumb sentences to alert other idol holders.

Other big reasons were the return of the Auction and the 90 minute format. The strategy and the personalities of the finalists also helped a lot.

todays IC....crawl under obstacle dig up machete, chop and get sand bags, toss into three baskets get 3 numbers open combo lock to release set of keys, solve 3 tier survivor puzzle...

and reward. sanctuary steak dinner baked potato and wine.

one person earned advantage, how did that go....Jake

his advantage, 2 of your sand bags are already in the base]ket and reveal the numbers....only will need to score one basket to move on

GO...

under the obstacle, look at flag in sand pit, dig up machete, Austin first then Jake, Dee, kat Julie

now untie machete, chop rope, release the sandbags, gather as many or as few and start tossing

Austin thru first. Jake and Austin tossingJake lands his

heads to combo box

Austin and Kat land one... Austin to combo lock, Jake has his keysmbut Jake forgot the keys, and has to go back, Austin has the keys and has past Austin...

Austin and Jake working on puzzle...use all the pieces, all lix need to be the same height, then add tiers

Austin has his first disc on, moving onto bag number two. Jake has it now, he's on bag #2

Julie has tier one...moves to second stage

Austin thinks he has 2nd their sorted, yes he does, he moves onto third and final tier

Jake has his stacks even and then he'll be on final third tier

showdown between Austin and Jake

Jake does not see that one of his pieces is short

Austin has it...he's placing the stacks, for the win, Austin has it! Wins immunity

Jiffy points out to Jake that he had a missing piece.

Austin safe at TC. has as spot in F4

earned the nice reward, choose one person to join you, he chooses Jake....Thanik you so much!

leaves the girls all by themselves

Jake: losing the puzzle piece, represents him in the game, looking for that last piece to win the game....I'm not out yet, still have my idol!

In exile Island, Cirie pulled off a rare 3-2-1 vote at F6 but could we have a 2-1-1-1 vote at F5?

Could it be that:

Jake and Austin vote Julie
Dee votes Katurah
Julie votes Jake
Katurah votes Dee?

>F6 but could we have
>a 2-1-1-1 vote at F5?

WOW! You were correct about 2-1-1-1 vote
(however with 1 vote, Dee's vote for Katurah being cancelled by Jake playing his Idol for Katurah)!!!

>Could it be that:
>
>Jake and Austin vote Julie
>Dee votes Katurah
>Julie votes Jake
>Katurah votes Dee?

Almost correct too! Only got Jake/Katurah's votes flipped.
Jake voted for Dee instead of Julie
Katurah CHANGED her vote from Dee (what you said) to Julie

Great prediction!

It's terribly difficult to keep your vote secret when so few people are left so such a varied outcome is rare. Had it been masterminded by someone it would have been magnificent but it came about mostly by distrust. Dee almost killed her game by insisting not to vote for Julie.

Kat wants Dee to go and she will have to grovel. She tells Julie....to be fair she said she would love to go to the end with me...Julie \says she would have more numbers if we got Dee to vote with us and vote out Jake.

Julie needs to show some loyalty with at least one relationship

Kat talks to Dee ....

Dee: so far the Amin name being thrown out is Jake. He's an attorney he persuades people for a living. Dee is down with it

meanwhile at the sanctuary

they toast and see them eat

Austin says this dude has been struggling but wanted to be strategic, he will tell all his secrets

Julie is looking for idols? Yes. Jake has the idol and tells him, he's playing it on himself, he can't be voted out. I need to make a successful idol play, Julie goes tonight...

what is your argument for Julie? he doesn't see Kat as a threat.

Jake tells Austin that he has an idol. I'm sorry says Austin in conf. sorry, but why did you tell me?

see Jake ask him not to tell anyone he has it

Dee: Jake has an idol, Austin has immunity that is me Julie and Kat one in three. Astin wants Kat out.

she's dangerous, he wants kat out...

Jake and Kat talk...Jake shows Kat that he has the idol. if Jake votes out the other girls votes, we can send Dee home. take Julie out tomorrow

Kat is trying to talk him into voting out Dee. she's won 3 immunities, takes Austin, one spot left for you and me.

Jake: genuinely torn, now Kat made a really good argument for Dee

Jake wants the most impact as possible....he's been dying to be in control. he has a little bit of power. See Julie and Dee talking, dee suggests Kat, and tells her that Jake has an idol.

Julie says it would help this game she will do Jake and hope his idol is fake

Austin thinks he needs to get rid of Kat, or Julie. he'd like to get out Julie she is closest to the other jurors, she's a mama, we can take Kat out later. Dee says she will still vote out Kat, but she will support Austin....he needs to do what is best for his game.

see kat and Jake, I am 100% on Dee....Im voting for Dee...Kat would love to get out Dee tonight. I do not want to go out at F5, we are at the finish line can I trust Jake fully to vote out Dee with me?

Still at F5 they didn't believe each other. Well Dee believed Austin and vice versa and that almost sent Dee home.

night 24

drew smiles when he sees Austin with the necklace

Jake earned the advantage. decent time lead, instantly squandered, ended up in it with Jake, but had one puzzle piece that was missing, how much have you thought of that today He's not dwelling on it.

had to start at a new beach...she couldn't pull it out today. she thinks there is a chance she may go home tonight
Kat says she does see everyone else as a threat. shift from high energy this morning, and she has a 25 % chance of going home.
Dee says she points out to others this is why they are a threat to your game.
it takes relationships to get to the end...Jake says it's not a chess board, there are relationships and strategy...

time to vote.

Dee votes Kat

Jake votes Dee
Julie votes Jake
Kat is changing her vote as she is sure everyone is voting for her?

Jake is playing his idol, he's playing it for Katurah....thnk you!!! says Kat!!!

Kat
Jake
Dee
Julie
Julie

Dee is in tears. Jake says you made me swear on Nana, what the hell? to Kat!

Julie: my fear was I would be the first person voted out and it turns out that I am the last person voted out....

Dee really killed it in that challenge. Now her heart would have her taking Austin to the end but will she see logic over feelings? Unless Austin asks to do fire. Jake is the fire king so it would be hard to pit Austin against him.

Kat blew it. Dee has a big affect in this game...nihjt 24

Jake tells them that Kat wanted you Dee, Kat switched her vote. Kat didn't trust Jake and felt that he could n't go with him is what Kat tells them.

Jake thought at the end of the game something would shake up. Jake says if you didn't trust me why did you make me do that....
Kat says that if she could trust Jake and he told her that he would play the idol on me, I would have trusted him, she is kicking herself, dee would have gone home and now I am with 2 people that love each other and will go to bat for each other....says Kat

come on in.

comes down to this. final IC of S45.

manuever gtrhrough a grid of ropes, to place a bowl on the perch, if you hit one of the rope grids the bowls will fall.

dinner decides who you place in the seat next to you and who will be forced to win fire.

go.

pick up bowls using a long pole to transport, then go through rope grid, if you shake it it will kin rock the bowls down

Austin has already hit his bowl and knocked it down.
dee in the lead

Kat is working very slowly, have 17 total to stack

dee has 8, Jake is on her tail. Austin hits his and knocks all of them down again.

huge advantage to dee and Jake, they are both on their 10th bowl.

now it will get more difficult.....Jake has big wobble but no damage

dee has 13. Jake hit the fridge and fell

no one is close to dee now. Dee tells her self to relax. has 3 bowls left

Jake broke his grid so he is out. no shot of winning this.

katurah knocks hers down. dee with the last bowl....now she has to get back to final platform.....she's done it. Won the final challenge. she's crying.

oh God, thank you!

she says that S has been such a dream for her, her parents, blah blah. must decide who to bring to tc with me and who for final 3 seat. Dee is in charge.

Jake. me being upset, to break the challenge today, not my breaking point, but this snowball will keep< rolling, wish I was the biggest snowball but I have to work with what I got....crying. [P>

See: The F4 fire challenge is busted with everyone wanting to make fire.

I've always said the Fire Challenge should be done at F3 not F4. And go back to the F2 now that it isn't the automatic goat carried to the end. unless you have 2 goats of course. (Imagine another fire challenge like Becky vs Sundra!?)

Also, it looks like Jake isn't the Fire King after all!

day 25. they come back and there is a lot of wood sticks to practice fire making

now this is the most power I have had in the game, choose who sits next tome in final challenge, and who to put in fire challenge.

she offers to speak with all of them.
ideally Austin is next to me, we have a plan.
Jake and Kat for fire because I know that Jake can beat Katurah.

Jake says do not take me to sit next to me, I want something to go my way. I want to go to fire. he is crying.

I need to make fire he says in chant. he just wants to do it for me. I think I can do it. he's crying to Dee. He wants to go out with pride. she will honor it.

Kat is talking to dee. she loves Kat, she's an afraid that the jury feels you more than me. take that as a compliment. she's loving she's sweet, she can articulate her words. I do think you should work on your fire making.

Kat: I know that dee wants me to get out in the fire making. she predicted this. it's happening. she switched the vote at the last minute, out of fear. I have not fibrin up, want it so badly, it will hurt so much. But I am Katurah and I can do things that I find difficult, I will suck it up and if I pull this off, and beat Jake, ohhhhh, dee would be so bitter.

Austin says you don't want to put me in fire, strategically Austin would like to go....send me to fire with Kat, it's in dees best interest to send Jake.

Austin says if Jake can't do it, then send me to do it.

see Jake practicing, but he's struggling.

no one is going to say that Jake ever gave up.

Austin comes to see Jake, he wants to make sure that Jake wins. Putin is trying to help him.

use a lot more than that Jake. He's not as nearly at good at fire making as I gave him credit for.

Dee and Austin talk. Just to be safe, you need to put me in the fire against her. it's a lot. this is the biggest decision that I will make on survivor and if I mess up it will potentially cost me a million

Austin volunteering to go to fire will be his demise imo. watch Kat beat him. Ha!

Tribal night 25

still cannot believe it's no longer 39 days.

dee wins the final IC of the season, 3rd IC win. Accomplished what everybody dreams about. walk me thru what happened back at camp.

Jake pulled me aside and then Kat and then Austin. Kat says it was open and honest, she told me that she doesn't feel comfortable sitting beside me at final tribal, I played a lot more moves etc. she has mixed feelings, at this point I kept my moves hidden, it back fired now I'm fire making.

Austin said she doens' want to do that, put me in. if that is another notch on your back? Austin says, potentially.

Jake asked to make fire, didn't want to be taken to the end.

who will you bring with you to the final 3? Austin.

it will be a show down. Jake and Kat will make fire. Kat says she just has to focus and fight like hell.
Jake? I'm making fire, burning a rope and doing it as fast as possible.

There was always something weird about having Dee in the F3 but not Austin. The spoiler had good points but didn't have the real F3. So now what?

Jake seemed to touch some jurors and he could have Kaleb's vote.

Austin has Drew's vote.

Dee has Julie's vote.

That leaves Kendra, Kellie, Katurah, Bruce and Emily.

Dee will need to come clean about telling Julie to foil Austin and Drew's plan. Julie would authenticate that. So with her being in on all the votes and having won more challenges she should have it.

Kat and Jake. they have the exact same supplies. burn through the rope, first to do it gets the 3rd seat at TC.

this challenge is on.

Kat is werking the flint now. Jake getting magnesium and spark it.

Katurah gets spark first, Jake has fire.....Jake needs to build sticksKat has a flame too..... but it goes out.

Jake is still in itJake has single flame burning higher....Jake is adding sticks....Kat can't do it...Jake is getting tighter....Jakes fire is getting to the rope....Jake wins! YES!

they hug....Jake whispers to Kat that she will make an amazing lawyer....

congrats Jake, you did what you said you were going to do.

wow! Jake says he wants to go back in time and give 15 year old Jake a hug and say hey buddy guess what we are going to do?

he wants to go telll fat Jake that you will get there! that's one of the best moments in my life right there, burning that rope, thank you, dee

Kat knew that she would be giving up a lot of control. I lead with my head, not my heart. You don't know this but I am a lawyer....Jake says YES! it was me putting that to the side, these people knew me just as me. this was a very healing and learning journey, I love you guys. Jake says I love you Katurah.

dude, I knew it she 's so good with words! says Jake. Love you! Love you guys, give em hell!

Austin, dee, Jake, did what 15 other people couldn't in this game, you got to the end. tell them why you deserve the money. one more night in Fiji.

final three sunrise. dee is living the S dream. Momma I made it, mommy. poppy, I made it! but I will win.

the breakfast is served via boat....Austin: F3 breakfast, symbolizes so much, reflect on what a journey it's been and how grateful we are to be there tonight. Austin says let's talk about the jury

who's game does the jury respect the most.

Kaleb....could relate to everyone. see Kaleb. Jake may have his vote, agains t the majority reba alliance.

Kellie: dee says this girl will be hard to beat if she makes it to the end. had the best social relationships says Kellie

Kendra: she's funny....Austin played a great game big threat, found strong alliances, never had his name written down...says Kendra

bruce: fourntain of knowledge of the game. own who you are in this game. Jake could be the greatest trial lawyer and could get my vote.

no one had a better story than Emily..... Jake was the most lied to person in this game, I can let that ruin my game or roll with it. nobody could get rid of Jake, I think he could be a dark horse says Emily

drew. Austin trusted him 100%. we had such a close friendship, drew is rooting for him, he walked out unscathed, made it to the end unscathed

mamma Julie: dee says she has two mothers right now. she was a good player. Julie says, I will define my alliance and make it work, she insulated herself with people that had her back, she risked her game to keep me alive says Julie

Kat. she played such a different game than the rest of us. her name never came up till the very end. she is looking for the strongest player of the game, will not reward passive game play.

dee says she will be unleashing herself. I will go full force with these guys.

Austin. I will do everything that it is me that wins this game.

Jake: I think that dee and Austin played great games but passive....one chance at a million, didn't come this far for them to beat me. Austin thinks he played the best game. Jake will go in to final tribal and argue his ##### off.

kellie says they need to go after each other. have to prove your game, speech for a million dollars....

TC:

convince the jury that you are the winner and worthy of the million dollars.

LAST EDITED ON 12-20-23 AT 11:16 PM (EST)

Dee waiting for the very last question to tell Austin and the jury that she had indeed told Julie to play her idol and eliminate Emily. Especially considering Austin had just said that Dee hadn't told Julie.

Speaking of those last few exchanges, Jake fell pretty much out of the picture. He had a strong start but he didn't have the game to explain those last moves.

,

He'll wind up with 0

kendra is so proud of you.... I am here with an open mind. how did you take this opportunity and make it yours. Jake... Jake juice this thing for everything it's worth. do everything. spear fishing, challenges weren't his forte....I had a lot of moments of sadness out here, every single second, I love this game, been watching this game ...

dee. I love the energy that she brought out. reason for being here was for my family, giving back. we have to be present and I decided just detach yourself from the end, take it day by day.

Austin. he was the alternate, so happy to be here, ate everything, found the idol on day 2, digest everything, eo experience the most that I can.

katurah, loved Kendras question. face your fears. what made you fearful and that you pushed through

Austin says blindsiding people. vote against Julie, he wrote her name down 3 times, it was hard to do that...
dee continues on with Austins answer. she was fearful of betraying them. I had 2 number ones, Julie and Austin. look I will be with you, I will not write her name down, but Will support you.

Jake. going through law school thaere is a lot of fear of failure. in survivor not everything goes your way, I really talked a real fear of failure in this game.

kat appreciates it.

drew: dee and Austin. you talked about a core four of reba. what you brought the to the core four. Dee loved it, she stuck through it, hones t and open conversations, she says she was being put in reba, I had a lot of luck over you you.

Austin says he was a big reason for that luck in reba, climbing up the trees etc, getting food, etc. dee disagrees with Austin, she wan't scared she had a core alliance that she was sure of. she played a role in every single moment. Austin argues...my biggest move of the game was the kellie vote. and the amulet...upgraded he is amulet....

dee says yes, you brought in Emily, but I brought in katurah...dee says she wants kendra out but he wanted them to know he was the most insulated one in the game.

Emily says flip side. at one part in this game heart doesn't win this game alone.

dee. I need to hear from you where you made a decision using your brain and not your heart. dee says that it's a downfall being to strategic, her strategic moves came from her heart.

Kaleb congrats to Jake, how did you get so deep in the game from someone who was always on the outside. he focused on the relationships with people that didn't want to vote him out. drew says but don't sell yourself short. his big swings didn't always work, he took cracks every single time. thiose two were comfortable with their alliance.

Austin didn't have to use his idol.

dee could have let Austin know that I was voting out his number one. first time he was left out. knowing all the info was as important as having idols.

Jake says he had an idol. tried to think that he would play it on himself. hoping to take Kat to the next round.

Julie says congrats. dee and Austin. I will state the obvious, ar e you two in a showman. is it real and how did this influence your game play. he's an attractive man, I genuinely liked him as a person. later on, it did develop.

Austin says something started happening at day 20, we made our moves because it was best for our indie'l games.

Austin says dee never told Julie, but it didn't make a difference in my game. Dee caught in the lie....turns to Austin, I did tell Julie. Julie wrote Emily's name down. my social game was so good, that my word is so good...Emily says in fairness I was coming for you next.

now the vote.

Kaleb yells from the booth....Jake

Julie votes Dee
Kendra: Austin: so proud of the way your played this game, kudos to you, you played this game of S
Emily votes DEE but says if you spend one penny of the million with that boy, I will personally take it from you

drew votes Austin

Votes. they all hug. and hold hands

dee
Austin
Dee
Austin
Dee
Austin
Dee
Dee

They were thinking it might be a tie....

Jiffy says this has been a season of relationships and ?

another survivor romance.

Champagne!

DEe confrats.

Definitely a better season than the past two. No doubt about that! Thanks to SHELDOR and MICHEL! Where would we be with out you! Thanks to all that chimed in, I love to see you all! xoxo

Thank you, FP. We are down to a just a few contributors but you and Sheldor fill up the board and make it still a fun place.

LAST EDITED ON 12-22-23 AT 02:07 PM (EST)

...but speaking of the VOTE only Michel and FlowerPower got it right! CONGRATULATIONS!

I would have been wrong if I had voted (flipped 2nd Austin and 4th Katurah) as I was positive from all the scenes of Dee telling Austin she would beat him again meant that Dee was taking Austin out in Fire Making! Instead Dee beats him at the Final Tribal Council!

THANKS for ALL you and do here!

Have a great off season and Holidays!
See you for Survivor Season 46 in February 2024!

Thank you Sheldor. Dee had a winner's edit which is extremely rare when it comes to women winners