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"S45|E5: I Don't Want to be the Worm"

Posted by michel2 on 10-23-23 at 06:06 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-23-23 AT 06:30 PM (EST)

Let's try this again! Since a worm usually manipulates it's way into participation in something, I guess we have another example of someone refusing to play or to make a big move. It wouldn't be anything new with this bunch of doofus.


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"RE: S45|E5: I Don't Want to be the Worm"
Posted by Sheldor on 10-25-23 at 08:26 AM
I've been busy and out of town most of this week.

THANKS for posting the Ep5 Press Release michel!

“I Don’t Want to Be the Worm”

Castaways have empty bellies and start dreaming of their favorite foods from home as running on empty begins to take its toll.

Then, one castaway from each tribe will go on a journey and must decide between sustenance or a potential advantage

Press Release URL
http://www.paramountpressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/shows/survivor/releases/?view=108655-running-on-empty-begins-to-take-its-toll-as-castaways-start-dreaming-of-their-favorite-foods-from-home-on-survivor-wednesday-oct-25


"On Fire: We Are Switching Tribes"
Posted by Sheldor on 10-25-23 at 08:38 AM

We Are Switching Tribes
40:16 | Oct 18, 2023
http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/we-are-switching-tribes/id1673596832?i=1000631803358

Drop your Buffs®! We are switching tribes—Jeff discusses how they approached the first tribe swap of the new era from the producer's perspective. Some core alliances—Dee and Julie, Drew and Austin—made it through the swap while others, like Brando and Kellie, are now on opposing teams. Rick shares his personal experience of what runs through a castaway’s mind when the new buffs are drawn and talks about some lone wolves—like Emily—who have an opportunity to completely change their gameplay. With a new chance to make moves and test their social games, how will players’ loyalties shake out?

Jeff also speaks to how influential Survivor’s editors can be in telling stories from the player’s point-of-view—like unpacking the friction between Katurah and Bruce through Katurah’s eyes rather than Bruce’s. With so many twists and turns in one episode, how could we ignore the shocking departure at Tribal Council? Jeff, Jay, and Rick have different thoughts about who would leave but no one expected another castaway to ask to be voted out in yet another emotional tribal speech. Jeff also answers listeners' questions about previous Survivor traditions he’d like to bring back and the chances of a Tribal Council where everyone loses their vote. And get ready—Jeff braces for the return of "This Is Why You Suck".


"RE: On Fire: We Are Switching Tribes"
Posted by Sheldor on 10-25-23 at 08:42 AM
Jeff Probst says the latest Survivor victim 'romanticized' his quit and didn't own it

The host also reveals what would have happened had Sean not bowed out at Tribal Council.

By Dalton Ross
Published on October 18, 2023
http://ew.com/tv/survivor-45-jeff-probst-latest-victim-romanticized-quit-sean/

It was another shocking ending to an episode of Survivor 45 this week. Shocking because for the second time in four episodes, somebody quit the game. And that somebody this time was Sean Edwards.

There were a lot of similarities in Sean's decision to leave the game on day 9 as there were to Hannah Rose's similar move back on day 3. Both announcements came at Tribal Council, stunning their tribemates who had planned to vote a different way. But host and showrunner Jeff Probst believes there was one critical difference between the two instances, and he spoke about it on the latest episode of his On Fire podcast with cohosts Rick Devens (Survivor: Edge of Extinction) and Jay Wolff. He also revealed what likely would have happened had Sean not quit.

"Just for some clarity, as much as you know anything going into Tribal, Sifu was going home," Probst told his cohosts. "That's what all of our interviews said." But Probst points out that Sean did not know that for sure, and a question from the host may have led Sean to think otherwise.

"I think Sean thought… that he might be in trouble, and he started to question if he was the vote," Probst said on the podcast. "Because people tell you things, but you don't always know the truth until you see your name on the parchment. And then when I asked him, 'So, Sean, if this is it, what's this journey been about?'… I think he thought it was a giveaway, and I think he thought, 'Oh man, it is me. They're blindsiding me.' And so he starts talking about these powerful lessons that come with failure. And that's when I knew, 'Oh, he's quitting.'"

But the host thinks the reason for the quit may not quite match what was said by the player. "Sean had been playing a very clever game," Probst said. "He's a very clever guy. I'm going to be super clear: This was another engineered quit. And I ought to be honest, I think Sean tried to craft a narrative that worked for him because… Sean wasn't exhausted. He wasn't worried about food or bad sleeping. This was a sudden discovery, as in that exact moment at Tribal he realized, 'Whoa, hang on. I think I got what I needed. I'm good, thanks so much.' I realize — no disrespect to him — I realize he's missing his family, but it's not like you're out there for another six months. It's barely two more weeks."

After Devens chimed in, pointing out that "I know you miss your husband, but the people deciding to stay and play the game and live out this dream don't love their loved ones any less," Probst added emphatically how "Jeremy Collins' wife was pregnant. He took that love and used it to win. So the reason Sean frustrated me is that I don't think he owned it. Hannah, equally frustrating, but she owned it. She said, 'Look, I hate everything about Survivor.' Sean romanticized it. And I am happy that Sean's in love. Everybody knows I love love. I think it's awesome… I'm just saying that romanticizing it felt to me like maybe a way to soften the idea of being voted out fourth in a game you imagined winning."

In the end, it doesn't seem the host was buying what the player was selling as his reason for stepping out of the game. "I'm not beating up Sean," Probst said. "I really am not. If he found a deeper connection to his husband, that is ultimately what Survivor's about — the experience. I'm just saying, owning it is also part of the experience."

You can read Sean's reaction to Probst's comments, and for much more inside intel from Probst on the latest episode, check on On Fire: The Official Survivor Podcast.