It's that time again....time to post all commentary in this thread until the episode has aired in its entirety on the West Coast. Funny that all three of us, the entire boards, are all unanimous! Let's see if we can one up Jiffy this week.

And, don't forget to have PHUN!

• Here we go....,Flowerpower1, 08:12 PM, 05-17-23
  • RE: Here we go....,michel2, 08:14 PM, 05-17-23
• Post reward challenge,Flowerpower1, 08:24 PM, 05-17-23
• We are in Bizarro World,michel2, 08:24 PM, 05-17-23
• Who picked Lauren to be voted out?,michel2, 08:33 PM, 05-17-23
  • Carp....,Flowerpower1, 08:34 PM, 05-17-23
    • RE: Carp....,michel2, 08:36 PM, 05-17-23
• Pre IC....,Flowerpower1, 08:33 PM, 05-17-23
  • RE: Pre IC....,Sheldor, 08:35 PM, 05-17-23
    • Weren't we voting for IC winner? ,michel2, 08:37 PM, 05-17-23
      • RE: Weren't we voting for IC winner? ,Sheldor, 08:45 PM, 05-17-23
        • Me too, Sheldor,Flowerpower1, 08:58 PM, 05-17-23
          • RE: Me too, Sheldor,Sheldor, 09:31 PM, 05-17-23
      • IC winner Lauren...ha ha ,Flowerpower1, 08:46 PM, 05-17-23
        • Yes,michel2, 08:58 PM, 05-17-23
• Post IC Drama....,Flowerpower1, 08:43 PM, 05-17-23
• Tribal Council....,Flowerpower1, 08:57 PM, 05-17-23
  • RE: Tribal Council....,michel2, 09:00 PM, 05-17-23
    • F5 is sent to a new beach,Sheldor, 09:05 PM, 05-17-23
• NTOS.....,Flowerpower1, 09:03 PM, 05-17-23
• Votes,Sheldor, 09:09 PM, 05-17-23

Night 21. return from tribal...

Great tribal....Yam sayid it, if someone has it its Carolyn....
Carolyn conf. they were shocked I played it fro Carson and Danny went home, nobody expected it...even tho technically I didn't need to play it, I don't regret it because it's most important that the three of us are together.

she tells them about the idol, I'm the bandit, she made the red X

Yam: I always know that she was a great S player, now she told everyone and they all know, girl shut up, your target gets bigger, and I am personally a little afraid of her says Yam

Jaime: C is an example of don't judge a book by a cover, sh'e s good

sleeping. And Heidi gets up, and Carson is up, Heidi is checking the light and goes around and acts like she is going to use the bathroom she's looking for another idol...

Carson wakes Carolyn, we've got to go...now they all wake up and look

Heidi says in conf: I have an idol in my pocket and even with that I don't feel comfortable, she wants 2 TC. s back to back.

Lauren looking...Carolyn looking...Lauren wants her to climb up the tree...
Lauren says she has never seen a player like r her before, and she has the flower in her hair, hasn't ';t gone on the reward yet...

Lauren says she's really a good player, she's confusing and so lovable, it's scaring me...

see a snake...
Yam Jaime Carson Lauren talking about being the final 4. Lauren wants to get Carolyn next, she's playing a great game

Carson: I feel like they want us for f4, but in reality I want us three to go to the end. Yam needs to pretend that we are working with Jaime and Lauren...we have worked together for the last two tribals, they shouldn't feel comfortable because one of them is going next, says Carson in confessional.

Reward challenge

randomly divide in two teams of 3, others blindfold and push ball then do table maze while they are blindfolded the sighted person in the ball guides them

winners go to the sanctuary, relaxing foot massage, lunch, sandwiches, plus cocktails cookies juice and ice tea

teams: Jaime is caller in ball with jaime and Carolyn pushing
Carson is caller and Yam and Lauren pushing... Yam and Carson are winning....they are getting momentum, purple is stuck...Carson is onto main course, Carolyn is lost and not even touching the ball....Carson is way in the lead...orange is on finish platform...then Lauren and Yam are at the table maze

huge time advantage for Carson Yam and Lauren

Carolyn and Heidi are on the maze...

Orange is about to win...and they win!

Lauren Carson and Yam win...d

they go to sanctuary...they will eat.

Jaime Carolyn and Heidi. Jaime we are outnumbered by Tika, huge opportunity for me to convince them to break up Tika...

Jaime's ball was carrying half a tree on its side so that didn't help!

And how could Carolyne wind up 20 feet behind the ball? Wasn't she holding on to it? Or did the ball suddenly jump forward!

At the sanctuary....there are the three masseurs....Yam is thrilled, he feels like he is home. a plate of food with sandwiches...Yam is crying....they are so happy....this is a reward I needed to win! Lauren cannot remember the last time she got a massage, as a single mom I don't have time to pamper myself, a beautiful experience

Yam and Lauren talking strategy, Carolyn playing that idol. Carson says she's a huge threat

Carson in conf: I want Lauren to feel as comfortable as possible
Yam: the fact that C is a big threat, I love her with all my heart, but now that w are down to six it might be time to vote her out....

back at loser camp

Jaime: the three of us at camp, we have to break up Tika...with Carolyn here it's perfect timing to talk about one of them...every one loves Carson, if we want to had him a million dollars, they are bashing Carson....Jaime says her vote is going to Carson. Carolyn says she cannot vote hime yet, she still needs her numbers. I know that he can't go to the end with me but we need him for at least one more vote

Carolyn talks to Heidi, Heidi says she can't trust Lauren and Jaime...she wants the final 3 to be Carolyn Yam and I...

Heidi notes they votedfor me, I can't trust them....Heidi tells Carolyn that we need Yam.

they come back...Yam

Carolyn tells Carson that Jaime is pitching Carson all day lopng
Carson says that she knows that they are trying to split the Tika three up...CArolyn says either Jaime or Lauren...
Carson in conf: we are finally in majority so we can finally run this game

Yam and Jaime talk...Yam tells her that Carolyn is the biggest threat now...

Jaime: I am surprised that Yam wants to vote Carolyn out, but I am going with the flow, I'd rather Carson, as long as a Tika goes home.

Yam says he knows that we can tell when people lie to me...
Yam talked to Jaime about how big a target C is. He tells Jaime that everyone who writes my name down is gone...Yam confesses that he wants to win!

What else do you call a world in which Carolyne is the biggest threat?!!

LAST EDITED ON 05-17-23 AT 08:35 PM (EST)

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Aren't we good spoilers?!
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After Jaime with two strikes, we moved on. Ugh. Got to be Jaime that is booted, no?

FP, can you please change the title of your thread so that it reads who wins immunity tonight?

Challenge arena....

use two ropes to balance a ball at intervals, you step back and makes it harder, last one with ball on tray will win...

begins

2 ropes one ball, one disc
Jaime is out immediately, then Carolyn

down to 4. Carson is out

Lauren Heidi and Yam are still in

Yam is out

down to Heidi and Lauren

Next phase, they go farther away...reset and the second section. Only 2. Lauren and Heidi...there is an insect flying around Lauren, and her ball is moving.
Heidi loses and Lauren wins IC

good job says Yam

well, guess we are ALL wrong. beach it will be Jaime now, ugh!

Lauren: this is my second IC, Guarenteed a spot in final 5....got to think about what my next vote is to get to final 3

Oops! Well none of us are getting Lauren Vote Off correct!

Heidi or Jaime ?

We were right, all of us!

Oh yeah, right we were voting for the Immunity Challenge winner!

I actually thought Heidi might win this Immunity Challenge. I was close with that thought.

Yes, I was sure that Heidi would win.

But, now that Lauren has won another IC, if she is not the IC winner next week, she could be toast!

Yeah Lauren either needs to find the Immunity Idol (IF it was re-hidden) or Win Immunity or else she is probably next to go though in recent seasons it seems Individual Reward or Immunity Challenge wins is NOT thought of that highly at the Final Tribal Council.

I suppose the Tika 3 could swing back and vote out Heidi.

There are 3 Original Soka (Matt, Frannie, Danny) and 3 Original Ratu (Brandon, Kane, Jaime) on the Jury so it's even now and probably doesn't matter which of Lauren(Ratu) or Heidi(Soka) they vote out next.

Note: Jaime had her Video Backstory in Episode ONE.

Wouldn't it really be surprising if CAROLYNE goes home! LoL

We would be in Bizarro world

Carson told us earlier that it would be either Lauren or Jaime, so I guess it's going to be Jaime.

we see them chopping something

Yam says that Carolyn is the biggest threat, but nobody is talking...they don't want to talk...he wants to talk about who wants to leave tonight...

Carolyn and Heidi talk. They want to vote Jaime...

Heidi says if I go strong with the Tika members I can save my idol. do I trust what I've been told or use my idol to save myself tonight

Tika are talking now...Heidi walks up...I will be very happy to write Jaime's name. all four of us on Jaime

Carolyn says she can't trust jaime and Lauren. we are voting them. if she does have one I think she is comfortable enough to not play it

Lauren and Jaime talking....they want Carolyn...they are going to talk to Yam..want to vote out Carolyn...Yam says he will talk to Carson about voting C

Yam: this will feel like a betrayal...this is the most difficult vote for me tonight, I might have to betray my biggest ally...

Carson and Yam talk final 2...he asks him if he really wants to get Carolyn...tells him she practiced fire till she was bleeding...

Carson in cod: she's played a great game, SHe's consistently been underestimated.., but the same time she is a loyal player and especially to me, who do we take out, it could be jaime or Carolyn, difficult to navigate the end game

Yam: right now living my dream but right now it means cutting someone that I love...the number one reason to get rid of Jaime, is that she is a big threat, but I know I have a better chance getting out C in final 3....am I strong enough to vote C. It breaks my heart, so stupid, it's a game but it's not a game...Heart tells him to vote out Jaime, but his head tells him Carolyn

So who will it be....Jaime or Carolyne? I am kind of hoping for Carolyn because it would be a surprise....for a change.

Jiffy: they brought everything from their camp...wanted to be prepared...Lauren even brought the rice...
Carson: as Yam said, Lauren is the only one that we know will be here.
Carson says idols could also be at play.
Jaime: shot in the dark is over...how much time is spent discussing idols etc...
Yam: there is not a converdstation that does not discuss that
Jaime: give me the scale from excitement to terrified...all of their nammmes were e out there, it's about jazzing up our resumes
Yam: there are groups but you have to be inside each ehead to know what they are thinking. he can't know what they are thinking
Carson: we are in someways woking together but then sometimes the groups break kip and that could be the case tonight
Carolyn is suspicious
Yam says it's really emotional, we are not talking about a stranger, 23 days living together, Carolyn thinks they are going to vote for her....Yam says reality is one of them or me
Carolyn: here's how I think, there is nothing wrong being an emotional player, doesn't mean I can't be strategic too, not going to apologize for crying, never deny that I can't be emotional but it doesn't mean I can't play this game.
Carolyn says yes, there is not many people left, with this small group we love on each other

Yam is asked how he feels about it, he thinks the person that is leaving tonight is the person that needs to leave for everybody's game.

Heidi is first voter
See Yam....

Vote tally

Carolyn whispers to Yam....what? and he looks away.....hmmmm?

No one plays an idol. but Heidi then stands up and hands her idol on herself

Carolyn
Jaime
Carolyn
Jaime
Jaime
Jamie

Carolyn was having heart failure!

she, Jaime, said love you Jeff on her way out

your assumptions are correct, new beach and you will start over, you were correct, the final push begins! Good luck!

Is this the first time that the F5 is sent to a new beach? I think it is...

LAST EDITED ON 05-17-23 AT 09:25 PM (EST)

No they have sent the Final 5 to a new Beach in Seasons 41, 42, and 43 but of course Season 44 hasn't seen Season 44 yet but they assumed since 41-43 Final 5 went to a new Beach that they will too.

Update: Looking at Wikipedia it appears they started sending the Final 5 to a new Beach in Season 39 "Island of the Idols", skipped Season 40 "Winners at War", and then did it for Seasons 41-44

S39
The final five were instructed to pack their belongings and get on a boat for Island of the Idols. Rob and Sandra told them that would be their home for the rest of the game, but they had one last test for the players not disclosed to them. Tommy caught on and asked Dean for assistance due to being color-blind, but Dean followed the clues for himself and located an idol. During this, Dean and Tommy made a Final Two deal.

S41
The five finalists were left on a separate island with no shelter and meager supplies, where they withstood a rainy night. They were each given a word scramble puzzle via treemail, which provided a hint to the location of an advantage hidden on the beach. Erika found the advantage, which gave her an advantage in the next immunity challenge.

S42
The final five castaways were taken to a new island to start over with nothing. The next morning, they each received a word scramble puzzle, giving a clue to the location of a secret advantage. Lindsay solved the puzzle first and found the advantage, which gave her an advantage in the next immunity challenge.

S43
On their new island, the final five were given a word scramble which would lead them to an advantage. Karla nabbed it right before Owen could and found it was a challenge advantage.

Yam: we are so happy to be in the final five, this is the last leg of the game

Jiffy: NTOS

See them all walking on the beach together

then see Carson and Carolyn in a challenge

Carson: everyone here knows that I can beat them...
Carolyn: I'm ready and I am ready to fight my way to the end
Heidi: I don't want 2nd 3rd or 4th, I want the million dollars
Lauren: this is the difference between winning a million dollars or not...

LAST EDITED ON 05-17-23 AT 09:11 PM (EST)

Votes

4x Jaime: Carolyn, Carson, Yam Yam, Heidi
2x Carolyn: Jaime, Lauren

The most obvious play by Tika (i.e. deceive Jaime/Lauren) and bring in Heidi who knows Jaime/Lauren voted for her twice!

Nice attempt to fool us editors that Yam Yam would actually turn on Carolyn!