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"S41 | Ep 8 | East Coast Spoiler Thread"

Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-10-21 at 08:57 PM
All commentary regarding tonights episode will remain in this thread until the show has aired in its entirety on the west coast. And, in the words of Tribephyl....have PHUN!

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"Here we go!!!"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-10-21 at 09:12 PM
They return...Evvie notes that they saved her life, Xander conf: played my trick to get Liana to play her advantage, as much as a loyal game with Yase a lot of info has been spilled at tribal, things that I wasn't aware of beforehand, maybe I shouldn't put so much trust into Evvie and Tiff....
Liana: I have turned my back on them and put new faith into new people
Evvie: the relationship with Liana is the biggest sad note, I connected with her the most, can't see how I can get back to what we were...

See Evvie and Deshawn, evvie is talking fast

Evvie: on a relationship recovery tour, she notes she's at the low point of the dominance...she is awkward, like in HS, so awkward...Shan says she thought Yase was tight, what has happened to Yase....like those little turtle, we were winning challenges but the reality is we were pulled in every direction and I think that we are done

Xander says she is willing to work with everyone.
Evvie doesn't think there is a tase three anymore. see them all working it
Tiff: I will use everyone to get me further
Liana: Tiff is talking to everyone,
See xander and Liana
Xander tells deshawn he feels like a free agent

Deshawn: the three base's come to me after trying to vote for me, NO. I will not be working with any of you want to see you go one by one by one....

Cut to RC

Jiffy talks to audience. Sometime you are on the out, hides an advantage at the challenge, under the bench

see Naseer

randomly divided into two teams of 5, one sit out can't win reward
dive down get puzzle pieces, pull yourself to use puzzle pieces to solve puzzle. playing for grilled cheese back at camp. Losers must smell them eating grilled cheese

bag pull the rock ...Erika is the odd one out...she hates these bags. on the sit out bench.. Xander is giving up his spot to Erika because she has already drawn a rock, now Erika will do the reward and she is on the blue team.

xander on the sit out bench where there is an advantage....

go

Ricard and shan ricard on blue, Liana is going first, sorry! Liana has hers and Ricard has his....xander is looking around the bench, looking under....
Now shan vs danny....releases puzzle pieces...heather for yellow vs deshawn for blue...
Erika for blue vs Tiffany for yellow then Evvie and Naseer swim to boat , they must unclip and pull them selves to the dock

two people on the puzzle, erika and evvie, evvie is taking over and they have it! Blue wins reward...evvie knew the puzzle, she remembers edge of extinction, and she did it....Jiffy: that is what research and practice gets you....Xander did not get the advantage but it showed him looking all over the place. Jiffy collects it. Missed opportunity.


"A Few Notes"
Posted by michel2 on 11-10-21 at 09:17 PM
Note to Xander: Being anice guy only means you put a target on your back.

Note to Evvie: Showing expertise in a challenge only puts a bigger target on your back.

Note to Jeff: Stop talking to us. Do you think Burnett would have allowed such childish behavior.

Note to Tiff: Boo-hoo.


"perfect notes"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-10-21 at 09:21 PM
Note to Ricard: everything you do pisses off Shan.

"RE: perfect notes"
Posted by michel2 on 11-10-21 at 09:24 PM
Note to Shan: No one likes the food police.

Note to Ricard: Ask first.


"Post Reward challenge"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-10-21 at 09:21 PM
Erika: for the last 10 days all I have wanted is a sandwich and chips, maybe I manifested this reward
Tiff: we were all on the last losing tribe, I haven't eaten in X days, feed me already
Shan: this game is breaking me down already, lost the merge feast and this, we are all so so hungry, see them crying. Liana and Shan

the people with more calories can do more...put food out of your mind completely
Liana wants evvie to just go....shan and liana talk. plan is to get in front of some of the people I am aligned with and tell them the plan. Shan recruits Naseer to vote out Evvie

Xander : I wanted to be with the losers...see him talking to Liana and Shan.
Liana is now considering working with Xander....hmmmm?

Naseer gets papaya...
Naseer: we lost every challenge, naseer gets them papaya.

the grilled cheese people come back and Ricard wants some papaya....but shan says you just had some grilled cheese....don't touch it. dude you just ate sandwich and chips, those moments change the game....dude....
Ricard: what is difficult with these reward challenges, a divide...if you go on a reward you are not expected to eat anything else all day....shan's had no food, and the game player in me is that she will resent me, I am hoping it doesn't mess up our future alliance.


"Post grilled cheese"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-10-21 at 09:32 PM
So now, apparently, Liana and Shan want to work with Xander. They want to get out Evvie.

Day 16 IC challenge site

balance on toes with block of wood balanced between head and top of frame. Last one left with block of wood still in place, wins.

Day 16, up to now you have been living on practically nothing, can opt out for a single portion of rice....option 2, if as a group, want to offer up multiple people, enough rice for everybody for 3 days. How many people do you need to give up immunity...Shan says 5 people....shan is stepping out, naseer steps out

Jiffy says you are asking do I trust this group enough?

Xander says what about 4, if one more person steps up, he will step up too. Xander steps up and so does Ricard. They will sit out in exchange for rice for the entire group.

boy they are on high tip toes. Deshawn and Erika out, Tiffany out....Liana, danny, heather and evvie remain. Liana is shaking. pain threshold challenge. longest it's gone is one hour and 22 minutes. Spencer won it

Danny is out. early drops due to lack of calories in first 15 days says Jiffy
Liana drops.
Down to Heather and Evvie. only 3 minutes in. a show down. you are fighting for your security at TC. These are the kind of moments when you sign up for this adventure. Evvie, legs shaking. Heather drops, Evvie wins!

shortest this challenge has ever gone, barely 4 minutes

incredibly surreal, never thought I would ever win, pinch me, and Jiffy does. he hands her the rice too.

In my real life I feel very blessed to have so much support, here no support and I feel very blessed that I did it, says Evvie. sorry guys, foiled you again.


"RE: Post grilled cheese"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-10-21 at 09:34 PM
Well I expected Xander to win that challenge and he steps out!

Actually, all 3 Idol Holders stepped out (Shan, Naseer, Xander) plus Ricard.

I knew NOT seeing Evvie in NTOS probably meant she is safe!
Argh!


"4 Minutes???"
Posted by michel2 on 11-10-21 at 09:35 PM
Does Evvie even deserve the necklace? What do you think that girl who fainted during EoE is thinking: "I almost died in my season and all I would have had to do this time is last 5 minutes?" Jeez...

"RE: 4 Minutes???"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-10-21 at 11:33 PM
"What do you think that girl who fainted during EoE is thinking:"

That girl was Lauren O'Connell passing out some time after 25 minutes leaving Victoria and Aurora and after Lauren recovered and Jeff announced she was okay, shortly after that Victoria dropped her block and Aurora won.


"Viakana??"
Posted by michel2 on 11-10-21 at 09:36 PM
Where did that name come from?

"RE: Viakana??"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-10-21 at 11:36 PM
"Where did that name come from?"

I guess too much going on to show tribe deciding on a name (Viakana) and painting their Merge Tribe Flag.

EW Dalton Ross Recap says:

"Speaking of things worth waiting for, we've got an amazing exclusive deleted scene from this week's episode that shows how the tribe came up with their tribe name of Viakana (or Via Kana). It will be waiting for you at the top of the recap right after the west coast airing. "


"Nasseer"
Posted by michel2 on 11-10-21 at 09:37 PM
He had a way too confident confessional. And now Danny is targeting him.

"Post IC and pre-journey"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-10-21 at 09:42 PM
So, who will Queen Shan want out. Deshawn wants to get the Yase member out, 1, 2, 3

They return, great job Evvie.
Liana: we had a plan set for Evvie, now I want to see Xander play his idol unnecessarily and then Tiff go home. If those two happen then Xander no power and Evvie is on bottom

See Shan, Ricard, Danny, Naseer: split the vote to Tiff and Xander. Naseer wants to hang on to his Idol, he trust Shan and Ricard

Danny wants to split it between Tiff and Naseer. Shan says Xander is more dangerous. Deshawn loves it...now he feels comfortable. Shan argues that Xander is a bigger threat. Xander has the extra vote and idol.
Deshawan, I was pissed at shan, you need to listen to me when I have something to say. There will come a time where Shan's got to go.

see deshawn tell her you are not absorbing to my opinion. I need to know that you are hearing me.
Shan: I see the argument to get naseer but he helps provide
Shawn has a moment that he doesn't feel like he's heard, so My game is social and i need to be the one to move the needle, and make them all feel heard. I take in all the info of all the members and then gotta hear it all and convince them that my way is the best way.

Shan tells Naseer that Xander threw out his name. We need to tell Xander, Heather.

Xander says now they are telling me Heather, my betraydar is on. They were telling me Naseer and now they are saying Heather, to Tiffany.

Tiff: I want to stay tonight...I am going to go with anyone that wants to work with me,
Heather: Shan is taking on the role of telling everybody what to do.....shan says who is the back up, and heather tells her you came up with my name, should have asked me.

Shan: I am nervous going into tribal, so much could go wrong, best laid plans never work out so I need a plan for TC.


FINALLY! People are catching on to the devious controlling Shan! Thank GAWD.


"One Last Note"
Posted by michel2 on 11-10-21 at 09:44 PM
to Shan: There's a buig difference between playing and overplaying. If even Heather can see it, so should you. yes, it could be her tonight. Could also be simple distraction from a boring Tiff vote...

"TC......"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-10-21 at 09:58 PM
So, Shan wants Tiffany out, and Xander to play his idol. Same with Liana, her lapdog.
Danny and Deshawn want Naseer out with his idol
Heather doesn't like shan, would love to see her and Erika vote Shan
Don't know what the Yase three will do.
Xander's Betraydar is up and active. Will he play his idol?
Heather: she had a confessional this episode, is it the peak of her boot episode?

Night 16, TC

Shan: You are the first to step out, was it because you are starving or ? She said she wanted us all to eat
Xander was a big move, we don't have anything, I wanted to prove to my tribe that i was willing to sacrifice immunity to develop trust
Naseer: says he knows he could have won that challenge but wanted my tribe to eat
Heather wanted to participate cause she is scared
Tiffany says there are always 2-3 people that aren't told anything so...
Danny: we have no idea what type of fireworks are about to get started
even though you look composed, you are panicked?
Evvie says no one told me anyone to vote for
Danny: last tribal a big theatrical moment from evvie, xander, tiff. then today they all throw each other under the bus, and now we don't know. Evvie says they were going to let me die last week,
Eika syas we don't know if they are together or not, a leap of faith because we don't actually know who is with who?

Heather wants to talk...she wants to whisper. she tells sit there and be calm, and trust me to Tiffany....then she is going to Ericka....She is telling all the passers to vote to Naseer. Shan says Heather is trying to change the vote to Naseer. Shan is telling danny, liana, and all of them to vote for Heather now. Deshawn doesn't need to talk, and Shan says we need to talk. Again he tells Shan, I feel like I am being told what to do. Ricard whispers to Xander: Please play your idol

Shan is over the top....it is a different caliber of game right now.

Ricard is voting. see Naseer, see Heather. See Xander

Not seeing any votes being written. See Xander then Tiff, then heather, then Naseer

Xander does NOT play his idol

Xander
Xander
Heather
Heather
Naseer
Tiffany
Tiffany
Tiffany
Tiff
Tiffany!


WOW!!! Did not see that coming. Xander turns around to Shan and says, thank you guys.

So most of them split the vote between Xander and Tiffany. Then 2 votes Heather, and one vote Naseer, most likely from the Yase three.



"RE: TC......"
Posted by michel2 on 11-10-21 at 10:05 PM
LAST EDITED ON 11-10-21 AT 10:09 PM (EST)

Tiff and Evvie, the two outsiders, were the ones that threw the Hail Mary to Heather. Danny and Nasseer voted Xander to flush the idol. Xander was the Nasseer vote and everyone else wrote Tiffany which, as you saw from my vote, was totally expected (!!)


"RE: TC......"
Posted by Sheldor on 11-10-21 at 10:07 PM
Michel: Congrats on the Tiffany Vote!

6-2-2-1 Vote!

6 Tiffany(Deshawn, Erika, Heather, Liana, Ricard, Shan)
2 Xander(Danny, Naseer)

2 Heather(Evvie, Tiffany)
1 Naseer(Xander)


"RE: TC......"
Posted by michel2 on 11-10-21 at 10:11 PM
Thank you Sheldor. Wish I could see them all like that!

Like they do at ESPN when it comes to next year's draft this is my "Way too early vote for next week : Evvie..."


"Yes, great job Michel"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-10-21 at 10:16 PM
Great job, Michel.

So Xander voted for Naseer because Shan told him too. Evvie and Tiff voted for Heather.

So, who is on the NTOS:

Naseer
Heather
Shan
Ricard
Deshawn
Xander
Evvie

Possible boot candidates....?

Press images were helpful too, last week!


"NTOS...."
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 11-10-21 at 10:03 PM
LAST EDITED ON 11-10-21 AT 10:05 PM (EST)

I really thought Tiffany was more an end gamer, so I am surprised. Actually I think that Xander must have voted for Tiff...

Naseer to Heather: You throw my name under the bus
Xander in confessional: It's perfect that they are fighting all the time
Shan to Ricard: I will cast the extra vote
Ricard to Shan: No you won't!
Ricard: It has to be her way all the time
Shan to others: arguing
Deshawn arguing to others: She don't me making decisions
Dashawn in conf: Shan is starting to ##### me off a lot
....to the others: I'm looking for a new team y'all
a lot of fighting with Shan...
Evvie: there are fireworks...


"RE: NTOS...."
Posted by Sheldor on 11-10-21 at 11:41 PM
I'll re-post this NTOS video in the Episode 9 Vidcap thread but posting it here too since it's been uploaded already.


Survivor 41: Episode 9 Preview + Final Words
Nov 10, 2021
ZP Survivor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtDdFGWEihU


"RE: NTOS...."
Posted by Sheldor on 11-10-21 at 11:43 PM
"Actually I think that Xander must have voted for Tiff..."

Xander was the single vote for Naseer