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"Alliances, Voting Blocks, Associations"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 02-19-20 at 07:51 AM
Thought we could keep an eye on who's aligned formally, and informally. See who sleeps together, hangs together, votes together. Please feel free to put any associations in this thread.


Table of contents
- Episode 1 Associations,Flowerpower1, 08:10 AM, 02-19-20
- Episode 2,Flowerpower1, 10:18 AM, 02-23-20
- RE: Episode 2,Scarlett O Hara, 11:14 AM, 02-23-20
- Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Sheldor, 12:57 PM, 02-23-20
- RE: Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,michel2, 02:18 PM, 02-23-20
- RE: Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Sheldor, 00:15 AM, 02-25-20
- RE: Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Flowerpower1, 07:27 PM, 02-23-20
- RE: Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Sheldor, 00:22 AM, 02-25-20
- Ep03 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Sheldor, 02:10 AM, 03-10-20
- Ep04 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Sheldor, 02:16 AM, 03-10-20
- RE: Ep04 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,michel2, 04:03 PM, 03-10-20
- Post episode 4: ,Flowerpower1, 09:34 AM, 03-11-20
- Ep05 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Sheldor, 05:24 PM, 03-18-20
- Ep06 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Sheldor, 07:43 PM, 03-19-20
- Ep07 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Sheldor, 06:14 PM, 03-26-20
- Post ep 7 observations,Flowerpower1, 07:38 PM, 03-26-20
- Ep08 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Sheldor, 08:52 PM, 04-04-20
- Ep09 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Sheldor, 09:05 PM, 04-10-20
- Ep10 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages...,Sheldor, 08:11 PM, 04-16-20
- Post ep 11 Associations/alliances,Flowerpower1, 04:43 PM, 04-23-20
- RE: Post ep 11 Associations/alliances,michel2, 09:09 PM, 04-24-20
- Ep11 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages..,Sheldor, 07:59 PM, 04-24-20
- Ep12 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages..,Sheldor, 04:25 PM, 05-06-20
Messages in this discussion
"Episode 1 Associations"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 02-19-20 at 08:10 AM
Rob + Parvati
Rob + Parvati + Ethan + Danni
Adam + Denise
Ben + Adam
Jeremy + Natalie + Michelle
Ben + Jeremy + Michelle + Adam?Michelle seems like the dangling member
Yul + Sophie
Yul + Sophie + Wendell + Nick
Yul + Sophie + Wendell + Nick + Sandra + Sarah
Sandra + Tony + Sarah
Tony + Sarah
Tyson + Kim + Amber
Yul + Wendell + Nick + Tyson
Kim seems like a dangling member
Dangling members on the outs are likely to be either voted off OR picked up for numbers. I predict the latter.

"Episode 2"
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 02-23-20 at 10:18 AM
This is an interesting episode. We have confessionals from Robfadda that talks about how he has to have plan A, B, C, and at this point he has options. We know this:Rob, Parv, Ethan, Danni
Adam + Denise *SHARED IDOL*
Denise + Adam + Ben
Jeremy + Michelle
Jeremy + Michelle + Ben
Jeremy + Michelle + Ben + Adam + Denise
Ethan + Ben
Ethan + Ben + Adam + Jeremy
Rob + Ethan + Adam
Ben + Parv + Rob (treemail together)
Adam is all over the place and playing a stellar game so far. He's narrating alot of events however at Sale, and we know that historically narrators can go at merge time?
This week with a sneak peek we see sleeping positions. Jeremy: Next to Parvati and Michelle
Parvati: Between Jeremy and Rob
Rob: Between Adam and Parv
Adam: Boston Rob and Denise
So: in this order: Denise/Adam/Rob/Parvati/Jeremy/Michelle/
Ethan/Ben/Danni?
Dakal
Kim + Tyson
Kim + Sophie *SHARED IDOL*
Yul + Sophie
Yul + Nick + Wendell
Yul + Nick + Wendell + Sophie
Yul + Nick + Wendell + Sophie + Sandra + Sarah
Sarah + Tony *Cops R Us*
Sarah + Tony + Sandra
Tyson really seems out of the loop here?
With the shark scene on Day 8 at Dakal:
Yul + Tony
Sandra + Nick
Finally: Here is the sneak peek where Rob talks about his options of A, B, C and feeling like he has them in place...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NPqynSSsQo
I want to ponder who could be his other options besides Parv and Ethan?

"RE: Episode 2"
Posted by Scarlett O Hara on 02-23-20 at 11:14 AM
The only alliance I question is the Tony + Sandra. Why would she throw him under the bus as the "bigger fish" if she was aligned with him? Of course, we all know that she has the "anyone but me" mentality, so maybe she just can't take any alliance seriously.



"Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages..."
Posted by Sheldor on 02-23-20 at 12:57 PM
LAST EDITED ON 02-25-20 AT 06:22 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 02-25-20 AT 00:18 AM (EST)
I got Jeremy and Wendell mixed up. Fixed
Where should we keep track of Fire Tokens, Hidden Immunity Idols, Advantages, etc?After Episode 1DAKAL (Red tribe)
Kim | Dakal | 1 Token |
Nick | Dakal | 1 Token |
Sandra | Dakal | 0 Tokens | 1 of 3 TC Immunity Idol
Sarah | Dakal | 1 Token |
Sophie | Dakal | 1 Token |
Tony | Dakal | 1 Token |
Tyson | Dakal | 1 Token |
Wendell | Dakal | 1 Tokens |
Yul | Dakal | 1 Token |
SELE (Blue tribe)
Adam | Sele | 1 Token |
Ben | Sele | 1 Token |
Danni | Sele | 1 Token |
Denise | Sele | 1 Token |
Ethan | Sele | 1 Token |
Jeremy | Sele | 2 Tokens |
Michele | Sele | 1 Token |
Parvati | Sele | 1 Token |
Rob | Sele | 2 Tokens |
Extinction Island
Natalie | Sele | 1 Token |
Amber | Dakal | 0 Tokens |
After Episode 2
DAKAL (Red tribe)
Kim | Dakal | 1 Token | Shared Immunity Idol(Kim/Sophie)
Nick | Dakal | 1 Token |
Sandra | Dakal | 0 Tokens | 1 of 3 TC Immunity Idol
Sarah | Dakal | 1 Token |
Sophie | Dakal | 1 Token | Shared Immunity Idol(Kim/Sophie)
Tony | Dakal | 1 Token |
Tyson | Dakal | 1 Token |
Wendell | Dakal | 1 Token |
Yul | Dakal | 1 Token |
SELE (Blue tribe)
Adam | Sele | 1 Token | Shared Immunity Idol(Denise/Adam)
Ben | Sele | 1 Token |
Denise | Sele | 2 Tokens | Shared Immunity Idol(Denise/Adam)
Ethan | Sele | 1 Token |
Jeremy | Sele | 1 Token | Safety Without Power
Michele | Sele | 1 Token |
Parvati | Sele | 1 Token |
Rob | Sele | 2 Tokens |
Extinction Island
Natalie | Sele | 2 Tokens |
Amber | Dakal | 0 Tokens |
Danni | Sele | 0 Tokens |
"RE: Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages..."
Posted by michel2 on 02-23-20 at 02:18 PM
I was making my own sheet for this but thank you for putting it up. The only thing I see missing is Jeremy "Advantage without Power" that lets him skip a TC.
"RE: Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages..."
Posted by Sheldor on 02-25-20 at 00:15 AM
"The only thing I see missing is Jeremy "Advantage without Power" that lets him skip a TC."That's because I got Jeremy and Wendell mixed up and I listed for Wendell "Safety Without Power". I'll fix that.
"RE: Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages..."
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 02-23-20 at 07:27 PM
Sheldor: Thanks for making this chart! Love it! But, Wendell did not get another token. He always only had one. Jeremy received an extra token from Natalie when she was booted, and then later in episode 2, Natalie found the safety without power and gave it to Jeremy. Which he bought, so he now has one token remaining. Natalie also gave her HII that she found on EoE to Sandra who was on the losing tribe, good for 3 TC's. So Sandra has no tokens currently.
Amber gave her token to Rob, and Danni gave her token to Denise.
Thanks so much, Sheldor!
"RE: Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages..."
Posted by Sheldor on 02-25-20 at 00:22 AM
LAST EDITED ON 02-25-20 AT 00:23 AM (EST)"But, Wendell did not get another token. He always only had one."
I know. I keep getting Jeremy and Wendell mixed up! Fixed.
"Jeremy received an extra token from Natalie when she was booted,"
Yup. Fixed.
2 Tokens for Jeremy not Wendell
1 Token for Wendell
" and then later in episode 2, Natalie found the safety without power and gave it to Jeremy. Which he bought, so he now has one token remaining."
Yup. Fixed.
I credited that transaction to Wendell
"Natalie also gave her HII that she found on EoE to Sandra who was on the losing tribe, good for 3 TC's. So Sandra has no tokens currently."
I have that right. After Episode 1 and After Episode 2 it says:
Sandra | Dakal | 0 Tokens | 3 TC Immunity Idol
"Amber gave her token to Rob, and Danni gave her token to Denise."
Yes, I have that right too.
Rob | Sele | 2 Tokens |
Denise | Sele | 2 Tokens | Shared Immunity Idol(Denise/Adam)
"Ep03 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages..."
Posted by Sheldor on 03-10-20 at 02:10 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-10-20 AT 02:19 AM (EST)After Episode 03DAKAL (Red tribe)Kim | Dakal | 1 Token | Shared Hidden Immunity Idol(Kim/Sophie)
Nick | Dakal | 1 Token |
Sandra | Dakal | 0 Tokens | 1 of 3 TC Hidden Immunity Idol
Sarah | Dakal | 0 Tokens | Steal A Vote
Sophie | Dakal | 1 Token | Shared Hidden Immunity Idol(Kim/Sophie)
Tony | Dakal | 1 Token |
Tyson | Dakal | 1 Token |
Wendell | Dakal | 1 Token |
Yul | Dakal | 1 Token |
SELE (Blue tribe)
Adam | Sele | 1 Token | Shared Hidden Immunity Idol
Ben | Sele | 1 Token |
Denise | Sele | 2 Tokens | Shared Hidden Immunity Idol(Denise/Adam)
Jeremy | Sele | 1 Token | Safety Without Power
Michele | Sele | 1 Token |
Parvati | Sele | 2 Tokens |
Rob | Sele | 2 Tokens |
Extinction Island
Natalie | Sele | 3 Tokens |
Amber | Dakal | 0 Tokens |
Danni | Sele | 0 Tokens |
Ethan | Sele | 0 Tokens |
"Ep04 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages..."
Posted by Sheldor on 03-10-20 at 02:16 AM
LAST EDITED ON 03-10-20 AT 02:20 AM (EST)After Episode 04DAKAL (Red tribe)Kim | Dakal | 1 Token | Shared Hidden Immunity Idol(Kim/Sophie)
Nick | Dakal | 2 Tokens |
Sandra | Dakal | 0 Tokens | 2 of 3 TC Hidden Immunity Idol
Sarah | Dakal | 0 Tokens | Steal A Vote
Sophie | Dakal | 1 Token | Shared Hidden Immunity Idol(Kim/Sophie)
Tony | Dakal | 1 Token |
Wendell | Dakal | 1 Token |
Yul | Dakal | 1 Token |
SELE (Blue tribe)
Adam | Sele | 1 Token |
Ben | Sele | 1 Token |
Denise | Sele | 2 Tokens | Hidden Immunity Idol(Denise)
Jeremy | Sele | 1 Token | Safety Without Power
Michele | Sele | 1 Token |
Parvati | Sele | 2 Tokens |
Rob | Sele | 2 Tokens |
Extinction Island
Natalie | Sele | 4 Tokens |
Amber | Dakal | 1 Token |
Danni | Sele | 1 Token |
Ethan | Sele | 1 Token |
Tyson | Dakal | 0 Tokens |
"RE: Ep04 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages..."
Posted by michel2 on 03-10-20 at 04:03 PM
I think it's weird that we haven't heard from neither Sophie or Kim about that idol. What's happening to it?
"Post episode 4: "
Posted by Flowerpower1 on 03-11-20 at 09:34 AM
Post episode 4: SELE:
Jeremy + Michelle = seemingly a tight pair
Jeremy + Michelle + Ben + Denise = firm four
Jeremy + Michelle + Ben + Denise ~ Adam. Newbies together vs Rob and Parv
Rob + Parv = tight pair
Adam + Denise
DAKAL
Yul + Sophie + Nick + Wendell
Tony + Sarah = tight pair
Tony + Sarah + Kim
Tony + Sarah + Sandra
Yul + Sophie + Nick + Wendell + Sandra + Sarah
Kim + Sophie
"Ep05 Fire Tokens, Idols, Advantages..."
Posted by Sheldor on 03-18-20 at 05:24 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-18-20 AT 05:25 PM (EST)After Episode 05DAKAL (Red tribe)Kim | Dakal/Dakal | 1 Token | Hidden Immunity Idol
Sandra | Dakal/Dakal | 0 Tokens | 2 of 3 TC Hidden Immunity Idol
Tony | Dakal/Dakal | 1 Token |
Denise | Sele /Dakal | 2 Tokens | Hidden Immunity Idol
Jeremy | Sele /Dakal | 1 Token | Safety Without Power
SELE (Blue tribe)
Nick | Dakal/Sele | 2 Tokens |
Wendell | Dakal/Sele | 1 Token |
Yul | Dakal/Sele | 1 Token |
Michele | Sele /Sele | 1 Token |
Parvati | Sele /Sele | 4 Tokens |
YARA (Green tribe)
Sarah | Dakal/Yara | 0 Tokens | Steal A Vote
Sophie | Dakal/Yara | 1 Token | Hidden Immunity Idol
Adam | Sele /Yara | 1 Token |
Ben | Sele /Yara | 1 Token |
Extinction Island
Natalie | Sele | 4 Tokens |
Amber | Dakal | 1 Token |
Danni | Sele | 1 Token |
Ethan | Sele | 1 Token |
Tyson | Dakal | 0 Tokens |
Rob | Sele /Yara | 0 Tokens |
First of all, thanks for posting the continued fire token/Advantage/HII count each episode, Sheldor! It's a lot to keep straight! After episode 10, the family visit, we had a strong 5 v 5.
Sophie~Sarah~Tony~Ben~Nick
vs
Kim~Denise~Jeremy~Tyson~Michele
Jeremy leaves. Rightly so, or he would have been toast. Tyson voted out, Michele takes a stab in the dark and votes with the rival alliance forTyson.
Now, at episode 11, Kim recognizes that they are outnumbered and everyone is pissed at Jeremy, so she and Denise decide to jump ship and vote with the majority alliance. So Sophie/Sarah think this:
Sophie/Sarah/Tony/Ben/Nick + Kim/Denise. Two people will vote for Michele, the rest will vote Jeremy.
So Tony decides to flip flop. At first he wanted to get Jeremy out. Then he decides that with the IN and a HII he can flip flop. He confirms with Nick if he will go along, then goes to Jeremy. He recruits him just before Tribal. Jeremy tells Michele.
So, at the end of episode 11:
Sophie~Sarah~Ben~Kim~Denise
Tony~Jeremy~Nick~Michele
So, the question is, WWSD, What will Sarah do. Stay with Tony, or remain against him?And, if Sarah stays with Tony, will Ben as well?
If Sarah is anti-Tony, will she target him next?
Kim is onto Tony, and we seen in the NTOS promo that she's after him with another "big move"....
