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"State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by sylvester on 03-10-09 at 03:55 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-10-09 AT 10:17 PM (EST)

State of the Spoiling – Episode 5

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Episode 5: “You’re going to want that tooth”

The misdirection clues:

As the Exile Island Alliance grows stronger, they start to run the risk of being discovered by outsiders.

A self-assured castaway lets her ego run away with her as she becomes convinced she's safe while her tribe contemplates voting her out.

The Press Release:

THE CASTAWAYS INVOLVED START TO RUN THE RISK
OF BEING DISCOVERED BY OUTSIDERS,
ON "SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS - THE BRAZILIAN HIGHLANDS"

An overzealous castaway risks it all in the immunity challenge and pays with a tooth, while another castaway finds himself in hot water for not performing during the challenge.

In addition, Flowerpower brought us this quote from the PIP promo over the weekend: Coming Thursday on Survivor: “The women try to take control, will the men be left behind? Don't miss a new Survivor, coming next on CBS, America's most watched network...”


The obligatory snake photo for no reason at all:

(p.s. Mark Burnett? I. HATE. SNAKES.)

The Reward Challenge: “DIZNESS AS USUAL”

Jiffy dimples says GO! (with jazz hands to boot):

Brendan & Joe are yoked like cattle and running:

The Timbira women take their turns on the merry-go-round from hell:

First, Sierra:

Then, Erinn:

Then, Debbie (who looks entirely too happy to be there, yikes):

Here they are later in the challenge, with everyone present, accounted for, and quite possibly developing hernias:

Note the large amount of rope behind Jalapao, and the lack of rope behind Timbira. Also note the body language of the 2 tribes, as PepeLePew pointed out in Flowerpower’s vidcaps thread: “ …see how Jalapeno are really digging their heels (pulling with their bodies at a 45-degree angle at least) while most of Timbits are standing almost completely vertical.”

My personal theory on this challenge is that people from each tribe are forced to sit on the spinning wheels until they puke or until their tribe members rescue them by unwinding the rope on their wheels. Note that the women seem to be handcuffed to the poles. (Anyone else suspicious that Coach helped plan this challenge?)

We don’t have full consensus on who wins the RC, but I’m calling a lopsided Jalapao win here. We have no clues as to what the reward might be, but here’s hoping for the DAW’s sake that mouthwash is part of it.


Exile Sand Dune:

Jalapao wins reward, so they choose a Timbura to go to the less than lovely exile sand dune. So far they’ve sent Brendan, Brendan, and Sierra. Whom do they send this time? The only real clues we have are that Brendan is the only Timbura in the vidcaps that doesn’t have a solo shot, and Tyson talks about Brendan making relationships with the other tribe in the preview. My guess is Brendan goes back to the sandbox. Who does Brendan choose to go with him? 3 of the Exile Alliance have already been, leaving just Stephen as the only non-attendee.


There’s also this vidcap of the rest of the Jalapao tribe:

Brendan & Stephen are this week’s lucky visitors.


The Unnamed ‘Roughest, Toughest’ Immunity Challenge:

Sierra fierce:

Brendan looking ticked:

2nd gratuitous Jiffy dimples shot (so sue me):

Sydney with a hurt wrist?

JT (now with missing front tooth!)

The overzealous castaway risking it all in the immunity challenge and paying with a tooth is obviously JT, the “strongest man alive.” The vidcaps really don’t provide us much to go on to choose a winner, so we have to look elsewhere for clues.

This is where crazy Sandy comes in: One of Sandy’s exit interviews was with tvwatch.people.com. The following excerpt is very interesting:

“Is being the oldest the kiss of death in Survivor?”
“………..Sydney was the cause of us going to the two councils. I had a target on my back from the first two minutes of the game, but I made a reprieve. If the vote was done over, I think that Sydney would have been the one and I think in the next few episodes you’ll see the regret.”

So, what can we take from that response? It sounds like Jalapao loses the next few Immunity Challenges, because of Sydney. If she is the cause of the losses (plural), she should not be the bootee this week.

I’m predicting Timbira does win the IC, and Jalapao takes the walk of shame back to tribal council.


Tribal Council
If crazy Sandy can be believed, this isn’t Sydney’s week to go. That leaves us with Taj, Joe, Spencer, JT, or Stephen. Due to the emphasis on Taj throwing a cough*misdirection*cough fit in front of her tribe, and due to the fact she may well be holding an immunity idol, I think she can be ruled out. Also notable is the vidcap of Taj & Sydney having a girl chat at camp here:

Remember “The women try to take control, will the men be left behind?” From the preview? Could the women they’re talking about be Taj & Sydney? Remember last week at tribal council, Sydney admitted she was sneaky. How sneaky is she?
JT and Stephen look to be longer term players, and Jiffy dimples has endorsed them as ‘stars’, so they should be safe this week. We’re down to Joe and Spencer. OFG theory pointed to Joe, as he is prominent in the previews and has been all but ignored up to this point. Taj threw her vote to Joe last week as Michel noted, so she obviously has no problem voting Joe. Breaking news with the Monday night preview! Spencer now qualifies for the OFG theory as well, because there he is front and center in the latest preview. Is he the one that underperformed in a challenge this time? Brownroach noted that “there is something odd about Spencer's edit”, and I agree. Just not sure if that means he’s an invisible boot, or if he flips on his alliance?

Is it Spencer?

Or is it Joe?

Or am I completely off base and it is in fact Sydney that goes? (Sandy is after all, crazy)

With the information we have so far, my guess is:

See ya Survivor Joe!


Be sure to check out VerucaSalt's editing thread, which is always an excellent read.
Also, be sure to VOTE!


-Cat

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"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by Brownroach on 03-10-09 at 04:25 PM
Nice job, cat!

I'm still undecided who to pick, but I agree that Joe, Sydney and Spencer are the three candidates. Taj I think will have her "attitude" scenes early in the episode and may no longer be in danger by the time TC rolls around.

I also agree that Sandy is crazy so I'm not sure how much stock to put in her perception of things.


A tribe glows in Brooklyn

"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by citywitch on 03-10-09 at 05:54 PM
Great SOTS! I agree that Joe is the boot this week. I think "while another castaway finds himself in hot water for not performing during the challenge." is the boot clue and it's about Joe. Also, Joe saying "Moves like that will get you voted off." in confessional is talking about his own challenge performance (or lack thereof) not about Taj.

Then again, I'm never right...

"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by Flowerpower on 03-10-09 at 07:52 PM

Great job, CAT! Perfect...Joe is a great boot choice and I think that TDT is leaning that way as well. Thanks so much!



"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by sol on 03-10-09 at 10:57 PM
Well done Cat ... and thank you. I've decided to read SOTS before voting this week.

Regarding Sandy's interview there's a couple things I'd like to comment on ...

“………..Sydney was the cause of us going to the two councils. I had a target on my back from the first two minutes of the game, but I made a reprieve. If the vote was done over, I think that Sydney would have been the one and I think in the next few episodes you’ll see the regret.”

Jello Pow has been to 2 TC's to date: Ep.1 they lost because Sydney and Spencer did poorly in the puzzle part of the challenge. And in the last Ep. Sydney struggled to retrieve a puzzle piece and it slowed Jello Pow down ... although I doubt that was the reason for their losing ... but who knows what goes on in Sandy's mind.

She then states that over "the next few episodes you'll see the regret".

Ordinarily, although Thailand was an exception, merge happens when 10 are left when the show starts with 16 people. That means there is 2 more Eps. before merge. Maybe in Sandy's mind 2 = a few .... or merge doesn't happen at 10.

BTW ... March Madness ... or Maddening March if you don't like basketball ... starts next week. According to the TV schedule that I looked up there is no Survivor next week, and in 2 weeks it will be on Wednesday (March 25th) Does this mean they have canceled the recrap this season?

Back on topic ... everything seems to point to Joe this week ... but I ask myself ... do I want to put down Sydney's name until she finally goes? I'm stubborn ... but how many more times do I want to be wrong...

"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by Brownroach on 03-11-09 at 09:44 AM
"the next few episodes you'll see the regret"...there is 2 more Eps. before merge. Maybe in Sandy's mind 2 = a few .... or merge doesn't happen at 10.

Or the Jalapaos may continue to feel the regret after the merge if they merge with fewer members than Timbira.


A tribe glows in Brooklyn

"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by sol on 03-11-09 at 10:59 AM
Yes Brownroach, I thought about that shortly after I posted. It seems very likely that Jello Pow is going to TC this week and losing another member, and if they lose another before merge they risk being pagonged ... depending on how "the secret alliance" works out.

In a blog JP mentioned that when a team goes on a winning streak they start to be disliked, and this could be a hint that Jello Pow is down 6 - 4 at merge ... since Jiffy likes to tell us who to like and how to think.

"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by michel on 03-11-09 at 08:32 AM
Very nicely done, Cat. It certainly looks like Joe is the Loser this week!


"This may help narrow it down?"
Posted by Brownroach on 03-11-09 at 11:47 AM
From Sandy's BuddyTV Interview:

Interviewer: Yeah, she (Sydney) seems to have a pull with all of the guys but it also seemed like she had a showmance with Joe. Is she flirting with everyone? Or does she have something specifically with Joe? Do my categories not apply?

Sandy: Well, she equally spread the love. She did. She really did, other than with Spencer, and of course we found out after the game that he was gay. But I think she kind of sensed in the game that she was.

So Spencer didn't spend any time with Sandy (or Sydney?) at LL?


A tribe glows in Brooklyn

"RE: This may help narrow it down?"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 03-11-09 at 06:32 PM
>>>So Spencer didn't spend any time with Sandy (or Sydney?) at LL?

Hard to say without more info, because in the past they have broken up the pre-merge losers into small groups and sent them on vacation. Although maybe not if Carolina and Candace's "friends" reflect hanging out together and not sheer envy.


"RE: This may help narrow it down?"
Posted by Karchita on 03-11-09 at 11:57 PM
Speculating on what is going on in Sandy's mind is dangerous and unsavory, but maybe when she says "after the game" she means after they were booted and they were in LL.



"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by kingfish on 03-11-09 at 12:44 PM
Nice Job, Sylvester. And it's nice to see you back this season.

I'd put my money on Joe too.



Agman.

"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by Outfrontgirl on 03-11-09 at 06:47 PM
Thank you so much, Cat, this is excellent. You covered everything.

I wonder if the "women take control" could be Taj sitting down with Sydney and saying, look, if we keep losing and if you and I agree to boot "the weakest" and agree that women are weaker, you and I are toast, so we need to make a move.

Taj-Stephen-JT need a fourth vote and that might be a way to bring Sydney over.
I feel like Sydney would be way more likely to go for Spencer, who doesn't reciprocate on the flirting, than Joe.

I doubt there is an idol bounce because CBS cannot resist advertising the most shocking TC ever, so that means that an alliance has to crack.

Of course the Timbira women could be the ones to ally, if only to oust Coach, but as Debbie and Sierra each have a strong man ally, and Erinn has no friends, I doubt it, and Coach is not featured this week, and would be if he were targeted, just for the drama.


"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by CTgirl on 03-12-09 at 07:57 AM
Great SOTS Cat! I'm glad you're back this season. You've convinced me that Joe is the boot.


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"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by whoami on 03-12-09 at 01:48 PM
Thanks cat. Sounds like you have it all figured out, maybe.

"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by Scarlett O Hara on 03-12-09 at 03:38 PM
Makes purrrrrrfect sense to me, Cat. Thanks for a great SOTs! Glad to have you back in our midst!


FISH by agman

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"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by VisionQuest on 03-13-09 at 09:25 PM
I am confused - what challenge is this picture from?

It looks like the same spinny challenge from Thursday's episode, but I don't remember this (and I really wasn't drinking THAT much during the episode - although watching Coach pontificate does make me want to drink more)

"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 03-14-09 at 08:36 PM
Good question... and it couldn't be from a future episode as Spencer is there in the picture.

Bugs me when they play up a scene that doesn't make it into the actual episode aired on TV. I don't remember seeing that tug-of-war either.

"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by esquire on 03-15-09 at 09:19 AM
I also wonder where Debra is in this picture?
"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by sol on 03-15-09 at 09:56 AM
I also wonder where Debra is in this picture?

Debbie is the pair of legs seen between Tyson and Coach.


"RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 5"
Posted by sol on 03-15-09 at 12:04 PM

During the "spinning" competition there are 4 "spinning tops"; and between the "spinning tops" there are 2 boxes, each with a rope attached. The boxes and the attached ropes are not in any of the vidcaps Those ropes run down the middle of the course between the balance beams, and those are the ropes that the tribes are pulling ... part of the challenge that wasn't seen.

You will also note in the photo to the left of Jalapoa's foot beam a rope that is part of the spinning challenge. During the spinning challenge the "pulling" ropes from the above photo are visible during the show on Thursday, March 12th, but not high-lighted nor visible in any vidcaps.

The question is why was this part of the RC not shown? Apparently it wasn't needed for the reward, nor to advance the editing ... but still part of the challenge.