Please keep all sigpic-free discussion about the biggest misplay based around an active idol (or two) since Angela Mistedge and Stacy Kimball on this thread until three hours after the episode finishes airing on the East Coast, by which time James will be learning just how fast he can dig his own grave using two dead tiles as shovels. It's not a landmine, quote-man, it's a hand grenade -- and it doesn't do anything unless someone pulls the pin...

Oh, and it's been three weeks of the exact same post-Council teasers. Does anyone remember where we parked?

You know the worst part? James actually has a spare.

• RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,smokedog, 04:41 PM, 11-29-07
• Segcappers wanted.,Estee, 07:05 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: Segcappers wanted.,Snidget, 08:17 PM, 11-29-07
    • And now, a word from Taylor.,Estee, 08:18 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: Segcappers wanted.,lynkfri13, 08:55 PM, 11-29-07
    • RE: Segcappers wanted.,smokedog, 09:43 PM, 11-29-07
• RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:15 PM, 11-29-07
  • Best Reward ever?,Estee, 08:17 PM, 11-29-07
    • Loved it!,moonbaby, 08:37 PM, 11-29-07
• RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:19 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:22 PM, 11-29-07
    • RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,lynkfri13, 08:29 PM, 11-29-07
      • RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:41 PM, 11-29-07
• RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:26 PM, 11-29-07
  • Wait. What?,moonbaby, 08:41 PM, 11-29-07
    • RE: Wait. What?,Estee, 08:51 PM, 11-29-07
• Stoopid editing.,Estee, 08:40 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: Stoopid editing.,Snidget, 08:42 PM, 11-29-07
  • I agree,moonbaby, 08:43 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: Stoopid editing.,Prof_ Wagstaff, 08:44 PM, 11-29-07
• RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:42 PM, 11-29-07
• RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:44 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,smokedog, 09:47 PM, 11-29-07
• RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:50 PM, 11-29-07
• RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,Prof_ Wagstaff, 08:53 PM, 11-29-07
• Here's the pitch...,Estee, 08:53 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: Here's the pitch...,Snidget, 09:03 PM, 11-29-07
    • RE: Here's the pitch...,PepeLePew13, 09:18 PM, 11-29-07
      • RE: Here's the pitch...,smokedog, 09:49 PM, 11-29-07
• Attention, all 'Biggest Sucker' GUFU winners.,Estee, 09:07 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: Attention, all 'Biggest Sucker' GUFU winners.,CutsyTootsy, 09:13 PM, 11-29-07
• RE: How did you know?,lynkfri13, 09:08 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: How did you know?,Snidget, 09:11 PM, 11-29-07
• Ding ding...,PepeLePew13, 09:10 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: Ding ding...,Snidget, 09:12 PM, 11-29-07
    • RE: Ding ding...,emydi, 09:19 AM, 11-30-07
      • Wahahaha!,moonbaby, 12:59 PM, 11-30-07
  • RE: Ding ding...,Estee, 09:14 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: Ding ding...,SurvivorBlows, 09:48 PM, 11-29-07
    • RE: Ding ding...,emydi, 09:21 AM, 11-30-07
• Amanda: power player.,Estee, 09:11 PM, 11-29-07
• Live post-episode discussion --,Estee, 09:12 PM, 11-29-07
• So long, Denise?,Estee, 09:15 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: So long, Denise?,smokedog, 09:51 PM, 11-29-07
    • RE: So long, Denise?,emydi, 09:30 AM, 11-30-07
      • RE: So long, Denise?,CattyChat, 10:51 AM, 11-30-07
        • RE: So long, Denise?,Estee, 11:14 AM, 11-30-07
• RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,redbeard103152, 09:24 PM, 11-29-07
  • RE: Survivor #15 Episode #10 East Coast Spoiler Thread,PepeLePew13, 09:32 PM, 11-29-07
  • Amanda's emergence,smokedog, 09:54 PM, 11-29-07
    • RE: Amanda's emergence,Jims02, 11:11 PM, 11-29-07
      • RE: Amanda's emergence,Estee, 11:16 PM, 11-29-07
        • RE: Amanda's emergence,Round Robin, 01:55 AM, 11-30-07

>You know the worst part? James actually has a spare.

Actually, the worst part is that he gets another chance next season.

Given that we may be looking at historic stupidity tonight, we may want a historical record.

I can do some snarky commentary, but not up for full seg capping.

Still trying to recover from DWTS finale with that...that...that...*sobs* Dead.Doll.Dance.of.Deathly.Deadly.Death.

'Deal with it!'

>Given that we may be looking
>at historic stupidity tonight, we
>may want a historical record.
>
>
James is finally faked out tonite? I can see it happening, but how did you all know?

>I can see it happening, but how did you all know?

See the excellent SOTS thread this week.

One more time, unfinished business, and we get it before the commercial break. Wow.

Jury sent off.

Not going back to camp, reward challange right at tribal council..

Winner private jet to the Sholin Temple (I wanna go!!!!!)

Winner choses two to go with them.

*psyche*

A visit to the Shaolin temple? There are people around the world thinking And you can keep the million dollars!

That was awesome. Oh, and Erik looked very cute.

Chinese trivia test for reward

As I wing my red cash envelopes at the screen at all those that didn't get it right.

PG wins.

Takes Eric and Denise.

Did I mention I am gellus?

>As I wing my red cash
>envelopes at the screen at
>all those that didn't get
>it right.
>
wow! is it common knowledge that red envelopes contain cash in China? I didn't know

isn't that a big temptation to thieves?

Usually they are for hand delivery. They usually have some chinese scene printed on them with gold decoration. They wouldn't be good for mailing by themselves (they would fit inside a card).

You can get them at any Asian market, especially around Chinese New Years. Giving kids money in the red envelope is really traditional. We always pass out red envelopes with a few coins in them to all the kids that come to my T'ai Chi school's Chinese New Year party.

James is thinking about frolicking nude to F4.

Amanda is thinking about a possible flip, not liking the possibility of sitting next to Todd, James, or Courtney at F3. (Who wouldn't want to be next to Courtney?)

But that doesn't matter, because a lot of people are stuck on the whole 'James frolicking nude' thing.

James frolicked nude and I missed it?

Waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!

And he was even singing.

Actually, that took some of the fun out of it.

They could have just stayed at the temple for the rest of the hour and flashed the ouster over the closing credits...

I have to agree with Peih-Gee. They just got the best Reward in series history.

Yep. The temple was cool.

I thought Denise did really well doing a demo of her form. I'd be a nervous wreck doing it even for the kids that are studying there.

with your agreeing, lol.
Best. Reward. Ever.

And now I like Denise more than ever.

PG tries to get Denise to flip as a precursor to getting a fourth: Denise just tells Todd. Erik tries to get James: James doesn't see the benefit. The editing is playing up the solidity of the alliance a little strongly tonight.

Oh, and for everyone who's been sitting Denise out every chance they got, guess what? She's a potential challenge force. Going for her black belt? Raise your hand if you saw that coming -- right. Liars. Put 'em back down.

Amanda wants to make a pie with Jame's naked frolicking apples.

> Amanda wants to make a pie

Would it be across the line to say that a lot of people would like to try her pie?

Star tossing Round 1

PG 0
Todd 3
Eric 6
Courtney 6
(tossing all those daggers with her eyes came in handy)
James 6
Amanda 6
Denise 2, bounces the last star off the heart.

10 feet further away for Round Two

Courney 0
Amanda 2
Eric 3
James 0

Eric wins Immunity

Geez James, the game WAS NOT who could throw the stars the hardest. This WAS NOT baseball!

Amanda decides it's now or never for backstabbing James, and that means getting some people to agree with her. Courtney's on board and PG & Erik should be happy for anyone who isn't them, so it comes down to whether James wins Immunity... and he doesn't. Raw strength doesn't always work with shuriken: you need technique, and Eric locks up Day 33. (Courtney's arms do not break from lifting the shuriken. Barely)

James is now vulnerable -- but does he know it? He's entirely too confident in his allies...

LAST EDITED ON 11-29-07 AT 09:03 PM (EST)

I'm impressed Amanda got PG to STFU and act like she never heard anything but she is going home.

If it's true that Amanda is going to be on All-Stars II, then I wonder how much power she'll have over James: "Okay James, if you don't want me to humiliate you in front of all these other All-Stars, then you're gonna be my b!tch and gotta do what I say the entire game. Capisce?"

The other All-Stars won't have seen this juicy tidbit, so it'll be interesting to see how much whipping Amanda will get to do.

Merci, Tribe!
It will be a great day when every one of our schools get all the money they need while
the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to raise enough funds to buy a bomber.

I think James will be looking to knock her out ASAP to return the favor.

Please pass your crowns to James immediately. All of 'em.

*passes cute tiara*
c'mon, really?

On a side note I was kind of afraid Courtney was going to break something during the immunity challenge. I keep waiting to just see her melt into nothingness...

Aside from James being too complacent in general, how did you know this was coming before the show even started??

The spoiler sources for this season been saying it.

The dumbest move in Survivor history has just happened.

The look on James' face when he realized what was going on with the vote reveal was absolutely priceless, as were the sniggering going on with each of the other 9 people in attendance (including the jury).

Merci, Tribe!
It will be a great day when every one of our schools get all the money they need while
the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to raise enough funds to buy a bomber.

Getting a little too cocky will mess you up every time.

Confuscius say:

"Man with hole in pocket, feel cocky all day"

Apparently Todd finally figured out he has no poker face. He doesn't have a poker hat, either.

Bets that at this point in the game, he'd mentally taken all the credit for this?

The biggest bummer is not getting a chance to interview James about this tomorrow.. CBS called and canceled late this afternoon. I wonder why.

I was wondering what they'd say...I still can't believe they cast him...It's Rupert II...if they give him a million $ I will puke really I will... I think I'll have to vote for Jonathan like I voted for Rob C in last stupid call in vote

Wonder if Todd's figured that out yet?

Credit to Peih-Gee for trying to play the bounce correctly, even if Erik screwed it up -- James playing the idol would have put her in a tiebreaker with Todd.

And a little credit to James for taking the non-bitter position. For gameplay -- feh. Sheesh. On a night of fictional invocation, James decides to borrow part of Phillip's exit speech...

-- in the Live Chat room (left sidebar, Other Fun, Live Chat, enable Java before entering and use Ayak's Bar & Grill). This may take a while...

The previews show Denise believing -- openly -- that she is now the swing vote.

We all know what happens to swing votes.

Funny thing - there's only 6 people left - how is she a swing vote? Unless she is trying to force a tie?

Amanda Erik PG for Todd...Erik gets it this time...wtf..he still thought he'd have an in with the FL's by not voting for Todd how stupid...what PG really should have done is try to convince james before TC of Amanda's plan and then gotten Erik more on board....but James was such an idiot...Denise just laid it out for him with the "YOu trust no one...you think your safe until 4 people say you are not" Did she have to write it on her forehead.

Courtney and Todd for Erik

Denise likes Todd see her telling him right away...she'll stick with him and Erik gets the boot. I don't think PG wins IC I think they are afraid of Eric winning any more so they go after him when they can.

Actually the more I watch, the more I think Todd may actually have a better chance to win this and the more I like Denise...she's still not a "playa" but she is an interesting and very nice person.

Todd imho has Denise and Jaime's vote...and I really think he has James. Will Todd play up that Amanda was the catalyst behind the vote to oust him at final tc? All he needs is one more...

Amanda only has JR's for sure and probably's PGs. It comes down to Frosti and Erik...did they show the bonding on the boat with the goats to hint that their votes may both go her way?

"Actually the more I watch, the more I think Todd may actually have a better chance to win this . . . "

I've been pulling for him since the beginning. I think all of the tell-tale signs are there that he is generally well-liked and trusted. Everyone gives Todd all the scoop. Personally, I'll be disappointed if he loses, even though Amanda is one of my faves (as well as James, stupid move and everything).

"Will Todd play up that Amanda was the catalyst behind the vote to oust him at final tc?"

IMO, Amanda can't take all the credit, since Todd initially came up with this idea way back when about blindsiding James and Amanda freaked out at that time. Then there were bigger fish to fry (Jean-Robert) than "in-the-pocket" James.

Now, maybe Amanda finally realized this was the perfect time for a blindside, but she really shouldn't take the credit of thinking up this "master plan." Also, I give Todd credit, as he was the one with everything to lose if James did actually play one of those idols. Todd really took a giant gamble and it paid off in spades. IMO, Todd has a great argument at final TC to counter anything that Amanda may have appeared to have done, up through now.

If Amanda is able to pull off voting Todd out next week, then I will give Amanda props for brilliant game play. Until then, I still see Amanda as Todd's "second-in-command." Todd still is the one pulling all the strings in the game.

But even if Amanda has just been playing at Grand Vizier, leaving Todd out there to take the blame for everything (and the resulting offense to jury members) is a sound strategy -- at least until she takes open control.

For those who thought that Todd was the game player you have just seen a glimpse of the person who will soon be controlling the game. You can write her the check now EPM. Do you know how to spell Amanda? Peih-Gee take a bow you set the trap well and the wolf had no idea he was going to fall into it. On the whole one of the very best Survivor episodes ever.

Yup, a truly stellar episode in what's shaping up to be one of the better Survivor seasons.

Merci, Tribe!
It will be a great day when every one of our schools get all the money they need while
the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to raise enough funds to buy a bomber.

Big ups for her play tonight. She was a virtual non-entity (other than her butt) for the entire game and now she is gunning for the top.

She is going to be remembered for this for a long time. I definitely respect her game now. Hopefully, she doesn't let up.

I agree. I was a little like, "Where'd she come from all of a sudden?" Although, if we all remember correctly, she was the one who convinced Todd to stay the course a few weeks ago when he started getting antsy... And that's what the group ended up doing.

I wouldn't at all mind seeing Amanda win this thing. She's like a less annoying version of Todd.

Which begs the question as to how you could have a more annoying version of Todd.

No way you could have a more annoying version of Todd. He's an arrogant jerk. If that son of a shar pei makes the final, I hope the jury has a couple good rat and snake speeches ready for him, and I hope somebody has the brass nuts to call him an @$$hole at the finale, becaue an @$$hole he is.