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"Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 06:18 PM
Please keep all sigpic-free discussion of the Most Shocking, Surprising, Never Would Have Seen It Coming If The (Censored) Title Hadn't Spoiled The Whole Thing Tribal Council Ever on this thread until the West Coast starts wishing for a return to the days when we knew absolutely nothing. Including just how much this season was going to wind up svcking. 'I'll give them an actual use of the idol! Then they'll have to get excited about the series again!' Nice theory. Really. You want us to be excited about the game? Ever consider casting more than two people who know how to play it?
Table of contents
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,vince3, 07:04 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Estee, 07:28 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 07:54 PM, 04-19-07
- The Four Horsesassmen.,Estee, 07:55 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: The Four Horsesassmen.,forestfriend, 07:57 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Jims02, 07:56 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:18 PM, 04-19-07
- Chop Chop Chop!,vince3, 07:59 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Chop Chop Chop!,vince3, 08:06 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:01 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:04 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Brownroach, 03:14 PM, 04-20-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Prof_ Wagstaff, 08:06 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:07 PM, 04-19-07
- Meanwhile --,Estee, 08:09 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Meanwhile --,forestfriend, 08:17 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Meanwhile --,Estee, 08:24 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Meanwhile --,Estee, 08:29 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:16 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,forestfriend, 08:18 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,tamarama, 10:01 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Scarlett O Hara, 08:18 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Wallflower66, 08:19 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:23 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,vince3, 08:27 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:28 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Prof_ Wagstaff, 08:31 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:36 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:26 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Scarlett O Hara, 08:28 PM, 04-19-07
- Today's moral: stop talking in front of Dreamz.,Estee, 08:35 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:38 PM, 04-19-07
- Pick which side Dreamz is on and win a million dollars!,Estee, 08:38 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Pick which side Dreamz is on and win a million dollars!,Snidget, 08:39 PM, 04-19-07
- Chaos time...,Estee, 08:40 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Snidget, 08:42 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,vince3, 08:45 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread,Estee, 08:53 PM, 04-19-07
- And Alex's entire world falls apart.,Estee, 08:45 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: And Alex's entire world falls apart.,vince3, 08:47 PM, 04-19-07
- Live post-episode chat --,Estee, 08:47 PM, 04-19-07
- Hahahahahahahahaha...,Jims02, 08:51 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,Pretty_Kitty, 08:56 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,tamarama, 10:06 PM, 04-19-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,Lisapooh, 07:56 AM, 04-20-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,tamarama, 09:46 AM, 04-20-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,Brownroach, 10:31 AM, 04-20-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,emydi, 10:53 AM, 04-20-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,KObrien_fan, 09:20 AM, 04-20-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,JazzyJax, 10:03 AM, 04-20-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,Snidget, 10:20 AM, 04-20-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,Brownroach, 10:25 AM, 04-20-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,emydi, 10:55 AM, 04-20-07
- RE: Hahahahahahahahaha...,JazzyJax, 04:14 PM, 04-20-07
- If you wanna watch the Best.Tribal.Council.Ever.....,vince3, 09:32 PM, 04-24-07
Messages in this discussion
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by vince3 on 04-19-07 at 07:04 PM
What? No S:SI sigpic in protest? Watch out for falling skeleton dragon heads!
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 07:28 PM
I have to set a good example for the no-sigpic thing. Setting a good example for the series is officially impossible. Maybe if we're very lucky, he'll cut off a wing next and it'll take out Mookie.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Snidget on 04-19-07 at 07:54 PM
Gee, people aren't happy with the Mookie will hold it until "we" need it.Not sure what the rotating the idol through the four horsemen would do. Other than get it out of Mookie's pocket.
"The Four Horsesassmen."
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 07:55 PM
Not a very cohesive alliance, are they? Mookie wants the idol, Alex wants to play hot potato with it, Dreamz is paranoid...
"RE: The Four Horsesassmen."
Posted by forestfriend on 04-19-07 at 07:57 PM
And now we finally know why Dre voted Michelle.
He was SCARED.
Dumb.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Jims02 on 04-19-07 at 07:56 PM
It's pretty bad when Jiffy's taking shots at you in the recap voiceover... You know, the "unreliable" Dreamz who "waffled" during Tribal Council. I haven't watched a single spoiler during this season, but there's got to be a reason why they did that.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:18 PM
I think the Pickax Of Foreshadowing is out and being swung for our foreheads: Dreamz is going to go back on something major before his time is over.
"Chop Chop Chop!"
Posted by vince3 on 04-19-07 at 07:59 PM
It's time for Reward!
"RE: Chop Chop Chop!"
Posted by vince3 on 04-19-07 at 08:06 PM
Victim 1: Stacy
Victim 2: Boo
Victim 3: Alex
Victim 4: Earl
Victim 5: Mookie
Victim 6: Yauman
Victim 7: Edgardo
Victim 8: Dre
Cassandra. Wins Reward! With a perfect score, no less!
Cassandra sends Mookie to Exile Island.
Who does Cassandra want to take? 3 more to take...... Decide back at camp!
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Snidget on 04-19-07 at 08:01 PM
*bouncing up and down* I love this challenge. Hoping for some really good questions.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Snidget on 04-19-07 at 08:04 PM
Gee. Stacy first out and no one wants to see her after the game.That'd make a girl paranoid.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Brownroach on 04-20-07 at 03:14 PM
I do give Stacy credit for not holding it against them afterward, unlike, say, Alicia in AllStars, who b!tched about it back at camp and was promptly voted out.
Blowin' the blues away, courtesy of tribephyl
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Prof_ Wagstaff on 04-19-07 at 08:06 PM
Damn!
My wife is out with her girlfriends, my 11yr old Survivor Partner is at soccer and I'm watching Ugly Betty with my 7yr old (her show).
While I am recording Survivor, I'm counting on you guys to keep me informed!
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Snidget on 04-19-07 at 08:07 PM
Cassandra wins reward. Sends Mookie to Exile Island.
Gets to take 3 people with her, but will decide back a camp.Reward, night on a yacht with food and a nice bed.
"Meanwhile --"
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:09 PM
-- Rocky needs someone to explain 'entitlement' to him.Fairly vicious order-sorter where Stacey and Alex were concerned. Stacey got told she'd wasted being out here and no one ever wanted to see her again, while Alex was informed he wasn't in control of the game. And now we get to watch the ultra svck-ups begin as everyone wars for Cassandra's three extra Reward passes. Can she play power politics with this? Probably not -- but hopefully she makes some kind of effort.
"RE: Meanwhile --"
Posted by forestfriend on 04-19-07 at 08:17 PM
And another UNMISTAKEABLE just-for-idiots shot of Earl on top of the mountain.
I'm beginning to worry when they get this obvious.
"RE: Meanwhile --"
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:24 PM
*nods* Honestly, could this edit be any more blatant? Either he takes one of the all-time falls or he lives up to Episode #1 and becomes king of the mountain. And I'm not seeing anyone with a quarterstaff, much less any idea how to use it.
"RE: Meanwhile --"
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:29 PM
Mini-endurance: balance your weight on decreasing-size footholds with the help of arm bracing, standing between two poles. This is the sort of thing where low weight helps, so Yau-Man continues his steady march to becoming the most unlikely challenge whore in series history. I can actually see him going on a run at this point if the challenges focus on thought, stamina, and dexterity. (Raw strength and speed, he's in trouble.)
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:16 PM
Y'know, Boo's kind of attractive when he's desperate. Not a bad Reward selection from Cassandra: Dreamz to get what Yau-Man calls a brainwashing chance, Boo to bring him deeper into the alliance, and Yau because he's earned one. But Dreamz is going to be the classic swing vote: back and forth, back and forth...
Mookie's vowing revenge. Hooray for Mookie. And he's figured out that Earl may have the other idol. Also that there's two idols. And that anyone who didn't figure out the clues after #3 was an idiot. (Somewhere in Loser Lodge, Lisi wonders if three is more than five.)
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by forestfriend on 04-19-07 at 08:18 PM
good thing to leave Earl. He's totally trustworthy.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by tamarama on 04-19-07 at 10:01 PM
>>Not a bad Reward selection from Cassandra<<Agreed -- one of the smartest ones we've seen.
Picking Dreamz will appear emotional to the rest of the tribe, but she's smart enough to know there needs to be more to it.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Scarlett O Hara on 04-19-07 at 08:18 PM
Cassandra wins RC. She takes Dre, Boo, & Yau man with her. People she needs to work on in an alliance. Boo is solidly in, but she still doesn't think she can trust Dre. They decide that it is Alex who needs to go.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Wallflower66 on 04-19-07 at 08:19 PM
You'd think they'd get to shower and shave on a luxury yacht.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:23 PM
Anyone who doesn't know Mookie has the Ravu idol, raise your hand.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by vince3 on 04-19-07 at 08:27 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-07 AT 08:27 PM (EST)Stacy: *Raises her hand*
Boo: *Raises his hand*
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Snidget on 04-19-07 at 08:28 PM
For some reason she can't explain (like she can explain anything) Lisi's hand goes up and it won't come back down.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Prof_ Wagstaff on 04-19-07 at 08:31 PM
Yeah but they all found it together so I'm sure he'll share it with a team member in need.
Right?
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Snidget on 04-19-07 at 08:36 PM
Dreamz says Mookie gave it to Alex when they were voting Alex. So just in case they will go with Egardo, and not talk to Dreamz about it.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Snidget on 04-19-07 at 08:26 PM
Endurance challenge. Every half hour go to smaller footholds.Cassandra first one out.
Edgardo second one out and they are on the second foot hold.
Earl slips, third person out.
Mookie fourth one out.
Now on the last foot hold.
Alex drops out.
Dremz is out.
Three people left.
Stacy in pain, and 1:15 she is out.
Boo almost loses it twice and saves himself. Still struggling and then loses it.
Yau-Man continues his challenge dominance (I never thought I would say that) and wins immunity.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Scarlett O Hara on 04-19-07 at 08:28 PM
Oh look!! It's a challenge designed for little people. Too bad Michelle isn't here to win it. We'll have to settle for Yau man, who wins it easily over Boo.
"Today's moral: stop talking in front of Dreamz."
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:35 PM
And Stacey, because both of them have far too good a picture of what's going on for both sides right now. The talk was almost heading for a double-bounce there...
The idol has been passed: Mookie to Alex! Unfortunately, Earl's alliance knows it...
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Snidget on 04-19-07 at 08:38 PM
I love Yau man.This is the first time he says he came to tribal with a normal heart rate and blood pressure and that is a good thing for an old man.
"Pick which side Dreamz is on and win a million dollars!"
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:38 PM
Alex, Edgardo, and Mookie -- sit down.
"RE: Pick which side Dreamz is on and win a million dollars!"
Posted by Snidget on 04-19-07 at 08:39 PM
*snort*
"Chaos time..."
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:40 PM
Look at the clock. We know someone's playing something: the vote came too fast.
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Snidget on 04-19-07 at 08:42 PM
Alex plays the Idol.No votes for Alex count.
Cassandra
Cassandra
Cassandra
Mookie
Edgardo
Damn Earl looks Smug
Edgardo
Edgardo
Edgardo
one vote left
Edgardo
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by vince3 on 04-19-07 at 08:45 PM
No votes for Alex countand wierdly enough, that's what Alex got, no votes!
Alex and Mookie look devastated, Dre is amused, the jury is amused, Cassandra, Earl, and Yauman have sh!t-eating grins.....
"RE: Survivor #14 Episode #10 East Coast Update/Spoiler Thread"
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:53 PM
Thus proving that if your name is Alex and you want to play an idol, bring another X chromosome.
"And Alex's entire world falls apart."
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:45 PM
One of the all-time Council expressions, right at the moment he realized he was never a real target.
"RE: And Alex's entire world falls apart."
Posted by vince3 on 04-19-07 at 08:47 PM
They seemed to recover pretty quickly, since they've figured out that Yauman, not Earl as suspected, has the Moto HII......
"Live post-episode chat --"
Posted by Estee on 04-19-07 at 08:47 PM
-- in the Bar (Live Chat room, left sidebar). Bring Your Own Turtle.
"Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by Jims02 on 04-19-07 at 08:51 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-07 AT 08:52 PM (EST)I love this show. 
Hahahahahahahahaha.
Thanks for playing, Alex.
Hahahahahahahahaha.
(I wonder how Earl and Yau Man got to Stacy so easily? I can understand Boo, but Stacy seemed to jump ship for no apparent reason. Not that I'm upset or anything by that.)
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by Pretty_Kitty on 04-19-07 at 08:56 PM
I dont think I've ever laughed so hard at Survivor. Oh the crest falllen faces of Alex, Edgardo and Mookie. Oh it was beautiful. So full of themelves they were but no more!!Did anyone catch the look of glee on Rockys face?
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by tamarama on 04-19-07 at 10:06 PM
The reactions were beautiful!!I'll vote yes for the TC living up to the hype.
That was fun!
One question: Why did the brain trust target Cassandra? I don't get that. 'Cause they don't like her? Dumb@sses. If they really believed Early had the idol...not that it mattered.
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by Lisapooh on 04-20-07 at 07:56 AM
Probably because they see her as the person that links the sub-alliances together. She's tight with Dre (who they were worried about), she's tight with Yau-Man and Earl and the probably the closest to Boo as well. if they had gotten rid of her, they probably thought that alliance would fall apart and they could pick up Boo and not have to worry about Dre any more. I don't think it was a bad call on their part, especially since they assumed Earl had the idol and hoped to pull Boo back.
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by tamarama on 04-20-07 at 09:46 AM
OK, I can see that.Thx!
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by Brownroach on 04-20-07 at 10:31 AM
I could see that, too, and perhaps Mookie still felt irritated at her for exiling him. Although I was thinking that if they really wanted to keep Dreamz on board they should target someone else, because Dreamz felt like he had Cassandra on his side (or at least he *did* feel that way). But with the way Dreamz's brain works it probably didn't matter.
Blowin' the blues away, courtesy of tribephyl
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by emydi on 04-20-07 at 10:53 AM
BR!! look at my post in CBS clues...I propose that and more!!
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by KObrien_fan on 04-20-07 at 09:20 AM
But the big question we should be asking is, why the solo vote for Mookie by Dreamz?Dreamz was smart enough to figure out that if the Moto hidden idol got handed to who was being targeted by Ravu, and he knew the Ravu idol was going to be played, then both idols saved a victim, there needed to be a third target "just in case" and that was Mookie. Very telling as to where Dreamz head was at, also how will he explain this one?
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by JazzyJax on 04-20-07 at 10:03 AM
I'm bad at this but I think the group was initially targeting Mookie once Dre told them that Mookie gave the idol to Alex. Then later, when Dre wasn't around, the group decided not to chance targeting either Alex or Mookie and decided to target Edgardo as a blindside. They purposely said not to tell Dreamz, and it looks like they didn't. Dreamz was loyal to the new group though and voted according to the first plan. Brilliant move by Earl's group because now Dreamz has no choice but to join Earl's group because he has now alienated the four (now three) horsemen.Loved this episode! Especially the sh-eating grin getting wiped off Edgardo's face!
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by Snidget on 04-20-07 at 10:20 AM
That is how I remember it.Dre got the switch from Alex to Mookie since Alex had the idol memo.
They didn't tell him about the switch to Edgardo (they didn't need to as they had 5 votes and they were probably reasonable to think he'd tell the horseman about the swap in votes).
Dre, for whatever reason decided to vote with the Earl group rather than the horseman, he was just voting on plan B rather than plan C.

Thanks to Scarlett O Hara for the memorial sig pic.
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by Brownroach on 04-20-07 at 10:25 AM
LAST EDITED ON 04-20-07 AT 10:25 AM (EST)That was my take. Dreamz stuck with the Earl alliance, he just wasn't told that they'd changed the target (and good for them for not letting him know -- Dreamz is an idiot as a player, but he's great at wreaking havoc with everyone's plans).

Blowin' the blues away, courtesy of tribephyl
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by emydi on 04-20-07 at 10:55 AM
right and it brings to him a lot of power , unwittingly imo...if I were there, I'd get rid of that "wildcard"
"RE: Hahahahahahahahaha..."
Posted by JazzyJax on 04-20-07 at 04:14 PM
It's hard to tell with TV vs. real time but I'd keep Dre as a useable wildcard because he can be manipulated/swayed by emotion and boot Mookie instead, who is just as much a blabbermouth but much more sneaky and hard to read.
"If you wanna watch the Best.Tribal.Council.Ever....."
Posted by vince3 on 04-24-07 at 09:32 PM
Here's a link to what was recently put on YouTube......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8HXAS143co