Spoiler #2 is even more hysterical when Reem announced she wants to “make her family proud.” If her family disowns her, she may consider taking on Keith as her foster child. She’ll be spending enough quality time with him over the next few days.

The NAACP cannot be satisfied with the two casted for this season. Yes, there are two. The second one is named Julia...you may have seen her during the first two episodes. But the NAACP may want to hold off on the protests considering the Sole Survivor from just two seasons ago and how he ultimately emerged victorious. It might be a prudent approach to just let the sleeping dog lie for this season.

Well said Kingfish! Vote out the chickensh!ts who just want to sit on their duffs in hopes of turning Survivor into an MTV Real World on a CBS Tropical Island. Although if that happens, we may lose a dedicated contributor on these Boards.

Yes, Einsteins are far and few between on these beaches. They are even scarcer in the Production room...and pretty much non-existent in Casting.

LAST EDITED ON 03-04-19 AT 09:32 PM (EST)

Aruba wrote: "She’ll be spending enough quality time with him over the next few days"

You should put in a spoiler alert when you come up with news like this...

And while I can't speak for Kingfish, I can assure you that I've never watched MTV's reality show.

My post was an “RE: Spoiler Alert!” It is clearly stated in BOLDFACE on the heading. So your silly criticism aside, no need to be repetitious and state it yet AGAIN in my post. Although I do not qualify that as a "Spoiler Alert." To suggest anything other than the obvious of Keith grabbing the torch to open Ep. 3 would be advocating obnoxious embellishment over the easiest decision Keith will have to make this season. And we all know my tolerance level for obnoxious embellishment borders between very little to non-existent.

fter all these years I thought you'd know how much I love to joke. The last episode ended in a rare cliffhanger and Jeff avoided all questions about it in all his press interviews so Keith going to IoE would be a spoiler if you had inside info. I know you don't and just guessing but I was poking fun at your legendary aversion to spoilers.

I wouldn't have the foggiest clue what Jeff says or doesn't say at press interviews. Conventional wisdom and good ole' commonsense came to the forefront when I posted my response to Kingfish's "Spoiler Alerts."

As to the NAACP question, and you and Mike have better memories and thus are better equipped to dispute this, but what I remember is that most of black people flounder in the water. There are others too that flounder, but when ever I see a black person on the show, I've come to expect to see swimming failure.

There is a reason for this with US approved legally approved discrimination based on laws that restricted where black people could get financing for housing, which were traditionally in areas that had no access to swimming pools. Thus these kids by and large did not learn to swim. Added to that was the fact that it was legal for a long time to bar black people from pools where white people swam.

Added to all of this was the pressure black people felt when mixing with white people, and especially when black men mixed with white women, which was probably one of the reasons swimming pool segregation was sanctioned.

So while he reasons behind the lack of swimming ability were deplorable, it is explainable and not a criticism of black people, but making it a Survivor meme is just not necessary. Swimming challenges are an integral part of Survivor, but demonstrating an ability to pass a basic swim test should be a casting requirement. For all prospects.

I thought that clip of Reem trying to teach Keith to swim was pitiful. They really painted him as inept generally, which is why, if he takes the left fork, he will need buck up and become another inspirational Aubrey like story. I kinda hope so, just to have a show worth continuing to watch.

Hello BIBB, I'm wondering if "even those parts of the world that are considered by the inhabitants to be civilized but which the rest of the world thinks aren’t..." include some parts of the Red States?

I have a (maybe) fun quiz for you concenring your spoilers:

#1: Can you name all the girls that went "au naturel" on the show?

#2: Which woman was so whiney that she was voted BACK into the game?!

#3: Can you name the Black guy that was so good at swimming that he was a water-polo player?

#4: Here, I got nothing!

#5: Can you give me an example of a truly brain dead player who found an idol in the very first episode of his season?

#6: Can you name the woman who actually asked who is Mary? when she was told that Mary had been vote dout.

LAST EDITED ON 03-05-19 AT 12:45 PM (EST)

You and Aruba both have demonstrated a superior knowledge of Survivor history than me, which is embarrassing because I've seen every episode of every season except for the first episode of season one, and the entirety of last season. But once a season ends, most of goes into the brain trash basket. High points may remain, but even those eventually go away.

So, that having been disclaimered to death, here goes.

Yes, the obliquely implied reference to current politics was on purpose.

#1. There were two girls who accepted chocolate to remove their bras. Jenna? Heidi? Then there was Parvati on the beach? (I think these memories are clouded by those for whom I have imagined images.)

#2. This is tough. Whiny women (and men) abound and outnumber anyother classification, but I don't know that answer.

#3. No. In fact I remember only one who could swim well, and I don't remember his name. Aruba pointed out a one, though.

#4. Me neither.

#5. Tempted to say Ron (I think that's his name) from this season, but aside from that, I got nothing.

#6. No, don't know. Hilarious. Who was that? The female bozo who started the game in a boy scout uniform? I don't think her name was Mary though.

Here are the answers:

1 Yes Jenna and Heidi dropping their bikinis for chocolate was the most famous nude scene. I remember Parvati sunbathing while alone on Exile Island but I'm not sure if she bared all.
The others I had in mind were:

- S6: Shawna who, in very tantalizing scene with Heidi and Jenna, bathed naked away from the older Jaburu women who were older and "didn't have good bodies" according to Heidi.

- S9: Julie, who was going to become Jiffy's girl, sunbathed nude next to Sarge and the other members of the Lopevi Flab 5. It was her way of making friends!

- S16: Amanda, during a challenge, lost her top completely thus giving us the episode title: 'My mom is going to kill me". (OK there were other nip slips over the years, too numerous to count but Amanda's really stood out if you pardon the pun.

- S30: Following Max's lead, Shirin decided to go naked on the beach a sight we all would have prefered not seeing.

There may have been others but those are the ones that come to mind.

#2: Lil in Pearl Islands: When the Outcast had to vote two of their own back into the game, Burton was a lock since he had won the challenge almost by himself. For the second Outcast, the vote was rather undecided and some (Nicole) didn't even want to go back into the game. Realizing they'd have to spend the next 20 days at Ponderosa with whoever wasn't going back into the game, the group voted for Lil to return because she was so whiney they couldn't take her anymore.

#3: Jaison in Samoa. He was even picked by Mick in episode 1 to swim the opening leg for Foa Foa.

#5: Ralph in Redemption Island. You can't get much more brain dead than that guy yet he found an idol right away.

#6 Here is the whole scene written up by Mario Lanza:

http://funny115.com/v2/71.htm

Just saw the quiz now. Good questions.

#1 – I can recall a few others:
S3 – the younger and cuter Kim stripped down to take a sponge bath. Big Tom was “Tommie on the Spot” and “volunteered” to pour water on her nude body while she bathed. I remember this scene because it was immediately followed by a jealous Lex confessional lamenting how Big Tom is able to use his Southern ways to “get away with murder.”
S24 – Kim won a shower at the Survivor Auction and got nude to take the shower. Another female castaway kept yelling at Troyzan to stop peeking.
S33 – Much like the Amanda incident, Michaela’s top came completely off during a challenge as well. But Michaela was not apologizing to anyone...in her words she would do whatever it takes to win.
Like you said, I’m sure there were others.
I remember Shirin dropping her pants, but I thought she kept her top on. If my memory serves me correct, that does not qualify as “au naturel.”

#2 – Lest we not forget, the only reason Lil even had an opportunity to get back into the game is because BOTH tribes sadly got the snot beat out of them during the team competition. If even ONE of the two finished ahead of the Bootees, Lil never has another opportunity...an opportunity that resulted in a 900K blunder and allowed one of your favs to be gifted the million. Were the others put up in the Ponderosa for the remainder of the season? This occurred BEFORE the Jury, so I thought the ones not voted back into the game boarded a plane and headed home. If so, then regardless of how the vote went they were not going to have to live with her for another 20 days.

#3 – I have a better quiz question for this one.
Who was the only black castaway to WIN an Individual Immunity contest that involved all swimming?

#5 – Didn’t watch Redemption Island.

#6 – I thought Kathy’s oblivious recollection of Mary was BEFORE the TC Mary was voted off when the players were deliberating on who should be the Tribe’s first boot. I don’t remember her asking who Mary was AFTER she was voted out...but I’m not completely sure since Skankivor: Micronesia was not one of my favorite seasons.

#1: Good ones for Kim in Africa and Michaela in Millenials. Kim in One World though was inside a shower so not really exposing herseolf. If that one counts then we can add Parvati going in the hot tub with Ozzy and Yul or Amanda and Ozzy showering together in Micronesia.
Shirin settled on dropping only her trousers but, at first, went all the way naked.

#2: Players voted out before the merger stay at Ponderosa until the jury forms but then they are all put together on a plane and taken to a resort. They certainly are not allowed back to the states before the season end so yes, the remaining players would have had to spend 20 days more with Lil.

#3: I don't have the time to make a good search so who was it?

#6: Kathy was informed by Joel to vote against Mary and she responded with a who? The one that asked "Who is Mary?" was actually Eliza when Jeff told them that Mary had been voted out at the next challenge. So Eliza was the right answer to my question. But Kathy's a good answer also if I had phrased the question differently.

Oh yeah, I was thinking of Julie sunning on the beach, not Parvati. I mixed the two up.

#1 - I do remember Ozzy and Ho-manda showering nude together in Skankivor: Micronesia. Was the Perv (and Ozzy/Yul) all completely nude in the hot tub? I don't recall if they were, but since we're talking about Perv-ati I wouldn't doubt it.

I still do not remember Shirin all the way naked, but as you said...not a sight that would stick in anyone's mind.

#2 - I never knew the players voted out before Jury starts were detained until the season ended. What's the purpose for that? There's still a lot of time from when the 39 days are up to when the season actually airs presenting plenty opportunity to spill the beans if anyone chooses to do so.

#3 - The answer is JOLANDA from S10-Palau.
The first challenge of the season was an Individual Immunity. When everyone jumped from the boat they had a swimming race to the shore. Immunity Necklaces were awaiting for the first female and first male who swam the fastest. Ian (with his 7-feet wingspan) and Jolanda won individual immunity. For winning they both started the schoolyard pick 'em thus were safe/immune from being the first two castaways to board the boat and leave the game.

#4 - I STILL do not recall the scene with Eliza, but if you remember I believe you.

LAST EDITED ON 03-06-19 AT 06:50 PM (EST)

#1: All three were naked in the tub. You wouldn't go in a nice hot tub with dirty clothes.

#2: It's been done like that since the beginning. No one comes back and no social media allowed before the end date. The purpose: If the pre-jury comes back before the end date then it would easily be spoiled. Even with that, some seasons have been spoiled anyway. Take S2: When she came back, Mad Dog was asked who she liked and she named 6 people, all players that turned out to be pre-jury so after she was voted out joining 2 of her friends, people figured that Kimmi, Mitchel, Mike and Varner were leaving next.

#3: Right. Good one. The challenge that should have told everyone of Steph's ineptness.

#4: Follow the link I posted in my first answer. You'll have a full rundown of the scene complete with images written by a funny author.

#1 - Of course you don't go into a hut tub fully clothed, but an overwhelming majority go in with a bathing suit. That was during a Reward if I remember correctly. If one of the females on that Reward was a non-skank and wanted to use the hot tub, I'd have to believe they would have a clean bathing suit for her to wear during the reward if she was uncomfortable plopping in the hot tub stark naked with two other guys.

#2 - It still doesn't make any sense to me. A season could be spoiled much easier AFTER Day 39. There's a good 3 - 6 months from Day 39 until the Premier airs on TV. That's a hellava lot longer than 20 days from perjury to Day 39.

#3 - Stephane made a poor decision to jump out of the boat prematurely, but I would hardly regard her season as "inept" because of that goof on Day One. She was by far the best female competitor that season who had the misfortune to ended up on a tribe without Westman.

#4 - Dingbat Quitter Kathy not knowing Mary was inexcusable. But Mary was the first bootee on the Fan tribe so I won't make a whole lot if anyone from the other returnee tribe (i.e. Eliza, Cirie, Ho-Manda, or Perv-ati) had a tough time remembering who she was.