LAST EDITED ON 09-22-06 AT 01:30 PM (EST)

A friend with whom I discuss Survivor on Friday mornings had the funniest idea about what Yul could do. Keep the idol safe and don't tell anyone about it. Meanwhile, while still on Exile Island find some artifact (chip a piece off the boat or whatever), put it back in the box, wrap it up and bury it again. Someone else will come along later, find it, and be fooled into thinking they have the II. Wouldn't that be funny at Tribal Council?

>LAST EDITED ON 09-22-06
>AT 01:30 PM (EST)
>

> Someone else will come
>along later, find it, and
>be fooled into thinking they
>have the II. Wouldn't
>that be funny at Tribal
>Council?

omg...priceless!

Jeff: "Whoever has the immunity idol and wishes to use it, please do so now"

**** dramatic pause ****

Some survivor: jumps up and procures a piece of conch shell
"Here it is Jeff! I'm safe! No one can vote me out!" *beams the mr. america smile*

Jeff: "Umm...yeah...that's NOT the idol...but nice try. Anyone else?"

bwahahahahahah! love it!

That would be more jaw-dropping than the "Billy's secret love" moment.

>I still argue that Terry used
>the idol the only way
>he could, since he was
>outnumbered and if he used
>it on anyone else he
>wouldn't have had it to
>save himself if he had
>lost an I.C. before the
>F4.

I agree 110%... everytime Terry won immunity, he never knew if he would need it the next time... and he NEEDED it, or he would have never made it as far as he did (that is, if he hadn't won every immunity challenge there was)

Yul is very smart... I think he will use it wisely, and if that means not having to use it at all, then he is even smarter than I think he already is. I would want the idol through the F4.

With the immunity idol last season, Terry played it very conservatively rather than rolling the dice and taking the chance he could run the table without it. We all know he finished third, and we all know it was due in part to his inability to finish the job (if he wins F4 immunity, they vote off Aras, Danielle takes him to F2 because she doesn't want to face Cirie, and Terry wins.) Without the idol in Terry's back pocket, two possible scenarios take place.

First I'll do the one that Terry feared.

First off, Terry passes the idol off to Nick. Shane goes home. Whoever goes to Exile next, it isn't Terry; I'll take Austin and Danielle, like in our timeline, and neither of them is finding anything. Terry wins immunity and Casaya stays strong, voting off Austin. Next up, Casaya rubs their 5-3 advantage in La Mina's face, and Nick goes home when Terry wins another immunity. To keep Terry from getting the idol again, Sally is sent to Exile, and Bruce is medivac'd out of the game. Casaya's up 4-2. Mercy boot of annoying Courtney? Not a chance. Sally goes home. THEN Courtney. Then, with Aras taking F4 immunity, Terry's a goner, Danielle wins the last immunity, and Aras wins 6-1 instead of 5-2 (since Shane dissented, but I don't think Nick would.)

Now, I'll do the one Terry hoped for.

Again, Terry passes the idol to Nick. Shane goes home. Over the course of three days, Terry pulls in outsider Bruce. Scratch that, Danielle. Bruce wasn't flipping. The next boot is Aras, 5-4, with Casaya targeting Austin. Danielle's time on Exile really helped the bond with La Mina, especially Austin. Cirie buys more time, and Courtney goes next. With Casaya loyalists down to just Cirie and Bruce, Bruce is Medivac'd out again. Hard to imagine anyone beating Terry in the next challenge, so Cirie gets kicked out. Down to five, Terry wins yet again, and he, Danielle, and Sally decide to break up the boys' club...which has taken in Sally, so Danielle gets axed. Again, Terry's in a win-or-go-home scenario. The frustrated Aras beat him here, so Nick could do the same. Terry's out.

So in either situation, he's out at F4 because he's in a win-or-go-home situation. In our timeline, he wasn't.

>Will he be smart and actually
>use it to his advantage?
>Or will he be like
>Terry and bandy it about
>but never let it actually
>help him. Of course, we're
>still pretty early in the
>game and he hasn't had
>to deal with Tribal Council
>yet, much less individual competitions.
>
>
>
>sig courtesy of Cygnus
>
>Mouse on the move
>by Snidget

I think Terry played the idol perfectly to say that having the idol did not benefit Terry is wrong. Terry was able to avoid getting voted out earlier because the majority was worried if they voted for him they would be the one evicted. Not only that but with the individual immunities and the idol Terry was invincable.....until he lost the idol in the final three.

Yes, the fact that they *thought* he might have it worked in his favor al along. So he didn't even have to use it for it to help him.

he definately benefited from the idol, though he didn't PLAY the idol. I don't think it can be viewed any other way.

Gotta love these Terry bashers STILL contending that Terry misused the idol. You don't have to walk up to Jeff at TC and announce you found the HII for the idol to come into play. The idol actually DID help out Terry and it came into play during the F4. Prior to that he was too busy kicking the crap out of the "chickenshit" tribe to HAVE to use the HII on HIMSELF.

Although it was Terry's intent to win every IC he didn't know he would acutally accomplish it up to the F4, so it's easy in hindsight to speculate on certain scenerios advantageous to Terry AFTER we knew he had his run.

As mentioned by another poster, handing it off to another player still would have put Terry on the short end of the numbers game. And as discussed is post series interviews the HII had to be given to another player BEFORE TC commenced. Thus it would be risky to give it away to someone who may not have needed it after the votes were read.

I just always hoped that using the idol would have helped him make final 2. Unrealistic, I know.

It will be interesting to see if Yul uses the idol and how he does it. Of course, if his team keeps winning he won't have to worry about it for quite some time. (an early merge could mess that up, though)

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Mouse on the move by Snidget

>I just always hoped that using
>the idol would have helped
>him make final 2. Unrealistic,
>I know.
>
>It will be interesting to see
>if Yul uses the idol
>and how he does it.
>Of course, if his team
>keeps winning he won't have
>to worry about it for
>quite some time. (an
>early merge could mess that
>up, though)
>

Keeps Winning?? (oh, sorry just noticed the quoted post was written prior to the merge and last night's TC).

His tribe was the one at TC last night while he had the idol in his pocket! OR, had he already given it to Becky just in case she got the most votes? Since Cece was voted out, we don't know if Yul still had it or if Becky had it.

I think Yul still had it bc he confirmed w CB that CB & Flicka were on board it really was stupid of Yul to tell becky so soon!!

Interesting Jenna M. on Survivor Live today said Ethan from S3 likes Yul and they play the same game but she didn't think Yul can win bc won't be able to scheme its not S3 anymore!

The best part about having the idol... no one else has it. That's it. Using it doesn't make any sense unless you absolutely have to use it, but then you're living on borrowed time, why should the jury be impressed at all with you. It is an albatross. But for all that, you're better off having it in your pocket than allowing anyone to have it in theirs. Wicked.

ARRRRRRR!!!!

ughhhh...I hated that he told Becky he had the Immunity Idol. I know he trust Becky and they're in an alliance and all, but I think she's shady...I'm sorry I do. I don't trust her. I like Yul, but I can see her doing him in because she's already pegged his character. I think Yul is a person that plays by the rules, but unfortunately this is Survivor and there are only 3 rules: Outplay, Outlast, & Outwit. Thus far Yul seems to be a person of good character & integrity. I hope for Yul's sake that Becky's character & integrity matches his.

I'm not sure it was a bright move, either. Although she seems to ##### people off, so perhaps he has simply identified his Number Two very efficiently, and has sealed her loyalty with his revelation.

Hatch was a management consultant, too, wasn't he...