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"IQ"
Posted by evilkitty on 05-12-03 at 01:21 PM
When jeff had mentioned the 3 highest IQ's, who was the third? I caught heidi and butchs name and only that heidi scored higher than dave but was dave the third he mentioned or was it alex?
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"RE: IQ"
Posted by dajaki on 05-12-03 at 01:35 PM
I thought he said Heidi, Roger and Daniel. I'll watch my tape while the world's cutest 2-year-old is napping later today.
"RE: IQ"
Posted by cqvenus on 05-12-03 at 01:45 PM
it was alex. weird.
"RE: IQ"
Posted by ElroyJetson on 05-12-03 at 01:46 PM
Heidi, Roger, and Alex

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Bebo on 05-12-03 at 02:08 PM
I was shocked - I thought that Treemail Guy had them all beat.

Bebo says...919 beats 205 - I am your American Idol and the Baroness of Babedom.

"RE: IQ"
Posted by kk on 05-12-03 at 02:18 PM
If Heidi's IQ is so high, why couldn't she answer Howard Stern on his show when she was asked what was 12 X 13??? DUH!!!!
"RE: IQ"
Posted by I_AM_HE on 05-12-03 at 02:35 PM
I think you're missing a step...
The real question is if Heidi is so smart, why was she on Howard Stern?

"RE: IQ"
Posted by cqvenus on 05-12-03 at 02:38 PM
she may be smart but above all else she's an athlete and, even more importantly, a "hot chick."

hot chicks always belong on howard stern. that's how they prove to everyone that they're hot chicks.

duh.

~ cq

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Thaibeach on 05-13-03 at 01:30 AM
Howard, apparently a man of some taste and discretion, made it fairly obvious he can't stand Heidi.

Wonder why? It's not like she's a cheap-looking, delusional, moronic b!tch or anything.

"RE: IQ"
Posted by samiam on 05-12-03 at 02:45 PM
She was not aware there would be any math.

It is entirely possible to score well on an IQ test and to be a complete f*ckwit when it comes to anything else, like balancing your checkbook, or having any self-awareness whatsoever.


The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. -- Terry Pratchett

"RE: IQ"
Posted by SurvivinDawg on 05-22-03 at 08:19 AM
What *IS* 13 x 12 ?!?!? (I know, I know, 156.)

My point is that most 6th grade multiplication tables stop at 12 x 12, so 13 x 12 is not common to our memories. It should not be a mark against Heidi if she's not quickly calculating the answer while on a TV show under the lights, etc, either.

She won't be designing any rockets with Dave anytime soon, but let's be fair to her, at least.



Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

"RE: IQ"
Posted by SurvivorBlows on 05-12-03 at 09:40 PM
My thought is does this say something about Heidi... or does it say something about the rest of the cast?

-SB

"RE: IQ"
Posted by frisky on 05-12-03 at 11:36 PM
I had to laugh when I saw that halfwit nodding furiously when Jiffy was pumping up her IQ score.

It was a mere two months ago that my Developmental Psych prof was talking about IQ tests. I'm not sure how objective his points are, or what research they are based upon, but basically the gist was this:

IQ tests are useful for predicting the future academic performance of children. It takes into account chronological age and cognitive or developmental age or some such. I'm not going to dig out my notes, but the prof said that the general idea in the field today is that IQ is not useful and not predictive of anything past the teen years. In childhood and adolescence, the test is used as a diagnostic aid for psychologists, but the results and validity of the tests are still questionable.

Most pointedly, he said that when they do test children's IQ, they DO NOT RELEASE THE RESULTS TO PARENTS AND EDUCATORS because parents and the school system tend to equate the results with the child's intellectual ability, and they label the child accordingly. The test, according to my prof, is just not reliable enough to risk the pigeon-holing of children.

So, when Heidi was nodding furiously about her IQ, I had a good laugh at her stupid, dimwitted expense.

"From someone with IQ = 154"
Posted by Fast Eddie on 05-13-03 at 10:16 AM
My IQ is 154 (higher than over 99.5% of the population). I was told this back in grade 12 (in the late 60's, when they did release results) when I was criticized for doing no work and coasting through high school with marks in the 80's. They felt I should have marks in the mid-90's, which would have reflected well on the school.

Being quite smug about this, I did quite a bit of research into IQ in university when I studied human psychology. Much to my chagrin and disappointment, I was forced to conclude that high IQ scores prove positively that a person is good at taking IQ tests. But little else. At very best, they may measure potential, but whether the person actually translates that into anything useful is a very different matter. Your prof is quite correct.

"RE: IQ"
Posted by moonbaby on 05-13-03 at 10:27 AM
Were numbers actually mentioned?


"RE: IQ"
Posted by fer33 on 05-13-03 at 11:25 AM
I get the feeling it wasn't REALLY an IQ test. Probably one of those dumb@$$ ones you take on the internet.
"RE: IQ"
Posted by managerr on 05-13-03 at 11:41 AM
No all Survivors take IQ tests along with Psych evaluations, etc. The ones on the internet are not "real" IQ tests, at least not ones I've had.

I remember in S1, they mentioned Gretchen tested the highest, I think it was in the 140's range. So Heidi must be on that level.

While not a firm believer of IQ tests, In my high school experience, the people who also got good grades tended to score higher on their IQ tests than the people who didn't. There will always be exceptions, but but as a general indicator, I think it does well. People that "test well" will tend to also "test well" in school.

I believe Heidi is book smart. She found the most words in the word scramble challenge for her team, and did well in the quiz challenge for immunity. I don't find it that hard to believe that her IQ is that high, but like others have said it often means nothing in the game of life or Survivor.

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Connie E on 05-13-03 at 12:15 PM
Have to throw my 2 cents in here.....people who score well on IQ tests do well in school because a standard IQ test focuses solely on the audiovisual learner. Schools STILL teach to the audiovisual learner, so ergo, the correlation.

Even though we know now that there are seven different learning styles, and that we need to teach to ALL of them, teachers are still mostly using the latest technology: the blackboard and the overhead, to teach.

We're missing quite a few REALLY bright kids in doing so.

What this has to do with Heidi, I'm not sure, but I've been fighting this battle for YEARS as a teacher, so I wanted to comment.

I will say this about Ms. Strobel/Strumpet: Anyone who watched the show and who scored higher than 60 on their own IQ test knows she's an IDIOT!!!!!

"Strumpets"
Posted by Coconut on 05-13-03 at 12:25 PM

-Ms. Strobel/Strumpet

Just a note : I teach too, and 'strumpet' was my whole class' favourite word, hands down, when we studied "Othello".

That said, it does describe Miss Tube Top down to the ground.

"RE: Strumpets"
Posted by Connie E on 05-13-03 at 02:46 PM
I'm also really big on the word "trollop". Both roll off the tongue with such contempt!
"RE: IQ"
Posted by Thaibeach on 05-14-03 at 12:04 PM
I've always been fond of "harlot" - and, in this case, what alliteration it provides! Horrible Heidiho Harlot
"RE: IQ"
Posted by Brownroach on 05-14-03 at 12:14 PM
What about "hussy"? That's my favorite: "wanton hussy."
"RE: IQ"
Posted by Coconut on 05-14-03 at 12:41 PM
"Hussy" is excellent. I don't think it applies to Heidi, though, as I think hussies (and wenches) have more class than she does.
"RE: IQ"
Posted by AZ_Leo on 05-14-03 at 12:53 PM
From dictionary.com

hus·sy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hz, hs)
n. pl. hus·sies
A woman considered brazen or immoral.
A saucy or impudent girl.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

hussy

\Hus"sy\, n. 1. A housewife or housekeeper.

2. A worthless woman or girl; a forward wench; a jade; -- used as a term of contempt or reproach. --Grew.

3. A pert girl; a frolicsome or sportive young woman; -- used jocosely. --Goldsmith.

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

trol·lop ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trlp)
n.
A woman regarded as slovenly or untidy; a slattern.
A strumpet.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

trollop

\Trol"lop\, n. A stroller; a loiterer; esp., an idle, untidy woman; a slattern; a slut; a whore.


strum·pet ( P ) Pronunciation Key (strmpt)
n.
A woman prostitute.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Thaibeach on 05-14-03 at 01:21 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-14-03 AT 01:54 PM (EST)

She's more of a brazen hussy. Or maybe just a simple (in more ways than one) sluuuuuuuut.

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Sunny_Bunny on 05-18-03 at 11:01 AM
Now I will go along with this one, especially pertaining to Heidi. In England, Slut not only means immoral, it also means lazy and slovenly, both of which describe Miss Heidi.

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Coconut on 05-20-03 at 11:45 AM
For Heidi, I really think the best word is 'skank'. It just sums it allllll up!


I can't actually say the word for Jenna on this site

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Bebo on 05-20-03 at 11:51 AM
I think in Heidi's case, IQ stands for Ick Quotient. And yup, that's high.

Bebo says...919 beats 205 - I am your American Idol and the Baroness of Babedom.

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Swami on 05-20-03 at 02:09 PM
You guys are way too hard on Heidi! She took the full, two-page spread version of "Test Your Dating IQ" in Teen Magazine and scored very well indeed. I, for one, believe her when she says she barely even cheated. Come on you guys - give the girl her props!



"RE: IQ"
Posted by samiam on 05-20-03 at 10:00 PM
give the girl her props

I would, but she'd try to have them implanted.


The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. -- Terry Pratchett

"RE: IQ"
Posted by whoami on 05-20-03 at 10:44 PM
My parents tried to teach me that if you can not say anything good about someone do not say anything at all.
But in Heidi's case I do not have to say anything you people have said it all. Thank you.

WHOAMI

How you play a game is how you are in real life when push comes to shove.

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Femme on 05-21-03 at 02:52 PM
Is anyone else concerned that no matter what kind of IQ test it was, the rocket scientist was not only behind Heidi, he wasn't even in the top three?

Femme

"All right Ramblers, let's get ramblin'."
"RE: IQ"
Posted by cqvenus on 05-21-03 at 03:13 PM
there's a post to this effect somewhere else and i can't remember where so forget i said it

anyway the basic idea is that the title "rocket scientist" doesn't really exist in nature

this told me from day 1 that dave is a pompous loser who doesn't know his role or has a very serious inferiority complex

generally a person might be an engineer of some type but i have never heard of an actual person who can proclaim his official title doctrined by his company is, verbatim, "rocket scientist"

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Femme on 05-21-03 at 03:23 PM
i'm cofused. What else would you call a scientist that designs rockets?

Femme

"All right Ramblers, let's get ramblin'."

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Thaibeach on 05-22-03 at 07:31 AM
Hi Femme,

It's an aerospace or aeronautical engineer. I don't know if that's Dave's degree. He could have a mechanical or other engineering degree and do the same work.

"Rocket scientist" is what geeks who happen to be aerospace engineers and want to impress the laaaaaay-deees call themselves.


Misses Dave's abs now that he's back to normal weight

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Brownroach on 05-22-03 at 12:26 PM
laaaaaay-deees

ThaiBeach, were you channeling Jerry Lewis just then?

I agree "rocket scientist" is too generic to describe what most people who might call themselves that do. I think Dave probably works in a specialized area of "rocket science" -- he may design or experiment with components that are used on rockets, or whatever. I highly doubt he "designs rockets", like an architect designs buildings.

"RE: IQ"
Posted by Femme on 05-22-03 at 12:48 PM
I know. Heh.
"RE: IQ"
Posted by Swami on 05-22-03 at 01:47 PM
I'm too lazy to go look it up, but I think there was a big thread about this on Spoilers. Somebody went to the company that Dave works for (or their website--I forget which) and determined that "rocket scientist" was a legitimate job title at that company. It was a fairly junior position. Perhaps he was issued a propeller beanie to wear while working.



"RE: IQ"
Posted by Thaibeach on 05-22-03 at 03:01 PM
...and the button on the propeller beanie matches his pocket protector.