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"Jiffy ranks the season and gives us a few tidbits..."
I got my Etertainment Weekly today and there is an article by Dalton Ross where he interviewed Jiffy and he ranks the seasons and here is how he ranks them.

1) Borneo : He said the first 39 days could never be repeated and he thought the Susan speech was the best final TC speech ever.

2) Australia : He ranks this season second because he said it is the only season that delivered week after week. Mike killing the pig, falling in the fire, the flood, Colby taking Tina in stead of Keith. And, he also says that he (Jiffy) believes that Kel indeed did have the beef jerky. He went on to say that someone from this season tried to smuggle food into the game by inserting it in their anus! He said it didn't make the show because they (the handlers) caught it before filming had even started.

3) Pearl Islands : He says casting was great for this show with Rupert and Johnny Fairplay. Interesting note: At an after finale party Johnny pissed off Jiffy so much that he (Johnny) is now banned from any event that Jiffy will be present. Jiffy also said he hated the idea of the Outcasts and he still hates it.

4) All-Stars : Jiffy said that he tought All-Stars was a great show to watch (yeah whatever) but that he hated it during filming. He said he got tired dealing with all of the out-of-control egos! LOL!

5) The Amazon : He liked the battle of the sexes. He said this was the most unpredictable season and who would have ever thought Jenna and Matthew as the final two and Jenna winning. He said that the jury really thought that he was crazy.

6) Vanuatu : Jiffy liked this group of people but didn't like watching the season. He said he got frustrated with the jury because of the double standard that they had for Chris/Twila. He said that Chris lied to everyone and they didn't hold him accountable for them.

7) Africa : He said the season was just hard to watch and then they had a boring final two of Ethan and Kim. He said they are great peeps in real life but boring TV.

8) Marquesas : Jiffy said that this was the worst location ever and that he will never even visit Marquesas again. He said this season got really personal and their were hard feelings afterward.

9) Thailand : The final four was the least likable of all other seasons. He didn't think it was fun to watch.

Jiffy's favorite challenge...Rock 'n' Roll from Africa. The ton bolder rolling challenge.

Jiffy's favorite twist...the winning tribe looting the losing tribe's camp during Pearl Islands.

I looked for this article on the EW website and didn't find it. Does any know how long it takes them to post the articles there? I will link it when they post it. Very good info here.

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 How could he... ohmyheck 02-05-05 1
 RE: Jiffy ranks the season and give... smokedog 02-06-05 2
 RE: Jiffy ranks the season and give... Jims02 02-06-05 3
 Couple of other Tidbits dreamerbeliever 02-06-05 4
 RE: Jiffy ranks the season and give... mikey 02-07-05 5
 RE: Jiffy ranks the season and give... JohnMc 02-07-05 6
   RE: Jiffy ranks the season and give... volsfan 02-07-05 7
       RE: Jiffy ranks the season and give... RyrieRae 02-07-05 8
           RE: Jiffy and Johnny LILTINKY 02-15-05 17
               RE: Jiffy and Johnny smokedog 02-15-05 18
                   RE: Jiffy and Johnny LILTINKY 02-15-05 19
 More from the article Bebo 02-08-05 9
 Complete text smokedog 02-09-05 10
   RE: Complete text Scarlett O Hara 02-09-05 12
   RE: Complete text cadfile 02-14-05 13
   RE: Complete text AMAZON 02-14-05 14
       RE: Complete text cadfile 02-14-05 15
       RE: Complete text volsfan 02-14-05 16
 RE: Jiffy ranks the season and give... daddy brian 02-09-05 11
   RE: Jiffy ranks the season and give... LSUSURVIVOR 02-15-05 20

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1. "How could he..."
rank Marquesas so low. It was an excellent season! The hurt feelings were good TV!

All-Stars so high makes me want to friggin puke. Good TV my a$$. Amazon and Vanuatu were just as horrible.

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2. "RE: Jiffy ranks the season and gives us a few tidbits..."
He said it
>didn't make the show because
>they (the handlers) caught it
>before filming had even started.

They caught it? EWW!

>4) All-Stars : Jiffy said that
>he tought All-Stars was a
>great show to watch (yeah
>whatever)

He thought wrong! A$$ sucked!

and why is he hating on Marquesas? That's one of the best seasons, in my book.

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3. "RE: Jiffy ranks the season and gives us a few tidbits..."
That's about where I would rank the seasons too, except I would have Marquesas higher, probably around #4.

I find it hilarious that even Jeff hated Thailand.


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4. "Couple of other Tidbits"
Rather than creating a new thread for two nuggets of info, hope you wont mind me just posting them here Vols.

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This was post by Mike Skupin over at his personal website. Mike is pretty good about answering questions here and there on his message boards. Australia will soon be coming out on DVD according to Mike ...

Andrew 12/29/04 at 08:59 PM

Hey Mike, hope your having a good holiday, I was wondering, you stated that you weren't as enthralled with Survivor as much as you used to be because it has gotten less and less survival wise, that concerned me because I was hoping to hear you on the Australian Outback DVD. Were you contacted in doing commentary or have you done any for it?

Mike 1/14/05 at 09:02 AM

Hey Andrew,

I am definitely more attracted to what it was then what it is, but that is not to say that is still is not a good show. With that said, I did fly to New York City a few months ago and film some candid interviews and some behind the scenes info. It was a lot of fun and I got to see some of the old "Kucha Tribe" and hang out. I brought my 7 hyear Emily for her birthday and we shared a memory that will last a lifetime.

The DVD will be released in the spring.
Blessings, Mike

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And starting on Feb 14, 10 former Survivor contestants will be competeing on The Family Feud. Here's the news article from the Providence RI Journal newspaper and also a post I found over at the Ethan Zohn website message boards.

10:48 AM EST on Wednesday, February 2, 2005

Newport's Richard Hatch, winner of the first edition of Survivor, has been mostly feuding with the IRS lately. But Hatch will also be among the former Survivor contestants scheduled to be on the syndicated game show Family Feud the week of Feb. 14.

Other players will include Susan Hawk, Rupert Boneham, Ethan Zohn, Rudy Boesch, Jenna Morasco, and Shii Ann Huang.

The shows were taped before Hatch's tax problems became public.

The federal government has charged Hatch with two counts of filing false income tax returns, alleging that he failed to pay taxes on his winnings from Survivor in 2000 and income he received from a Boston radio station in 2001.

Family Feud airs on Fox Providence (Channel 64) at 9 a.m. weekdays and Pax TV (WPXQ, Channel 69), at 7:30 p.m. weekdays.


And the post ...

Ethan and Jenna were in Los Angeles last weekend taping the Survivor Edition of FAMILY FEUD (the show is called Castaway Family Feud). It will be a men vs. women showdown. The Moo-lah tribe is composed of Richard Hatch, Ethan Zohn, Rupert Boneham. Jonny Fairplay, and Rudy Boesch. The Cha-Ching tribe is composed of Jenna Morasca, Sue Hawk, Shi-Ann Huang, Tijuana Bradley, and Christa Hastie.

For those residing in US and Canada, this will be telecast on February 14 to 18 a 12:30 to 1 PM on NBC. But please check your local TV listings in case the schedule changes.

For those in other parts of the world that may get this a little later, Castaway Family Feud is Editions No. 131 to 135.


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02-07-05, 11:43 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Jiffy ranks the season and gives us a few tidbits..."
I mostly agree with the rankings, but I can't understand Marquesas being so low. Seemed like people really played the game rather than simply Pagoning. Introduced us to Boston Rob. Can't see how anyone would rate Africa over Marquesas.

Jiffy's dislike for Johnny Fairplay is the only possible reason this guy did not make All-Stars.

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6. "RE: Jiffy ranks the season and gives us a few tidbits..."
"3) Pearl Islands : He says casting was great for this show with Rupert and Johnny Fairplay. Interesting note: At an after finale party Johnny pissed off Jiffy so much that he (Johnny) is now banned from any event that Jiffy will be present. Jiffy also said he hated the idea of the Outcasts and he still hates it."

Hmm... that doesn't make sense. JFP was on the All Stars reunion show as the worst villain or something like that. There was definitely tension on the S7 reunion, but it didn't seem that bad on S8 (though JFP was still p1ssed at not being on All Starts).

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7. "RE: Jiffy ranks the season and gives us a few tidbits..."
Keep in mind, whatever Johnny did it was at a party after the finale. So, it wouldn't have been part of the show.
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8. "RE: Jiffy ranks the season and gives us a few tidbits..."
LAST EDITED ON 02-07-05 AT 05:52 PM (EST)

<(Johnny) is now banned from any event that Jiffy will be present. Jiffy also said he hated the idea of the Outcasts and he still hates it."
Hmm... that doesn't make sense. JFP was on the All Stars reunion show as the worst villain or something like that>

I think JFP may be contractually obligated to do certain shows like the one mentioned. But I bet it is the parties and events that Jeff has him banned from.

I agree with every one that Marquesas was great... Hunter booted so early, the Rob/Sarah affair, the tribal swapping, the purple rock, and Kathy Obrien!

I do disagree with everyone (except Jeff) that Allstars was bad. I enjoyed it. It, too me, was very unpredictable. And as hokey as it was, the Rob/Amber story could not have been written any better. For unscripted TV, that season was full of surprises.

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17. "RE: Jiffy and Johnny"
I FIGURED FAIRPLAY DID SOMETHING AT THE ALL STAR AFTER PARTY-I WONDER WHAT WENT DOWN AND WHICH PARTY
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18. "RE: Jiffy and Johnny"
Word on the street is he felt up Eliza at the Vanuatu after-party (after the reunion show). That's from Sucks though, FYI.

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OH, OK-WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT HE WOULD BE BANNED THEN-THANKS FOR THE FAST UPDATE-FAIRPLAY SEEMED REALLY TICKED AT THE ALL STAR REUNION-SORRY FOR ELIZA THOUGH
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Jeff ranked Marquesas so low based on the final 2. He thought Vee and Neleh were boring.

He also gave some interesting insight on the purple rock. The original intent of the purple rock was that the person who won IC and the people who were deadlocked in the tie would not pull rocks - only the other people. He said they hadn't realized it worked in every scenario but 4. With 4 people there would only be one person available to pull out a rock. But before everybody realized what was going on, all of the folks put their hands in the bag.


In his All-Stars ranking, he commented favorably on Boston Rob's strategy. He was impressed at how openly he played his taking-his-girl-to-the-finals strategy and that it worked.


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1 Borneo (SEASON 1)
You'll never repeat those first 39 days — never. It was the virgin season, and the show was being created day by day. In many ways, Richard, Sue, Rudy, and the other 13 created it as much as we did. Even though content-wise the show was solid, we weren't always sure where it was going. As for me, I really didn't know what the hell I was doing. Plus, CBS made us put that trunk of cash on the Tribal Council set, which I hated. It was a little corny, but hey, the show was corny, so in that sense it fit. When Sue made her big speech blasting Kelly at the final Tribal Council, the only thing I was thinking was — this is money. It's probably still the greatest Survivor moment, and another reason why season 1 will never be repeated. And I honestly thought Richard would be the first person voted off. He's a scheming, pompous, condescending guy, but is so endearing you want to keep him around even though you know he's got a dagger with your name on it.

2 Australia (SEASON 2)
I could almost put Australia as a tie for No. 1. It had the incredible cast led by Colby and Elisabeth. You had forest fires, a flood, Mike Skupin killing a pig and then falling in a fire, burning his hands so severely that the skin was falling off. And rarely do you have a choice in the final three that makes people drop their jaw, and Colby's choice to take Tina to the final two over Keith made people's jaws drop. And then Colby lost. That show delivered every damn week. Everybody wanted to marry Elisabeth, and Jerri was maybe the best female villain ever. And as for that season's biggest controversy: I do think Kel had the beef jerky. Just a gut feeling on what I heard and saw. People try to smuggle things all the time, and if you're really good, you can get away with stuff. It's part of the game. We've had people try to smuggle things up their a--! And I won't say who, because we caught them and it never made the show, but yes, somebody tried to smuggle something up their anus. So beef jerky is no big deal.

3 Pearl Islands (SEASON 7)
There are many reasons why Pearl Islands was good. Top of the list would be casting one of the greatest heroes and greatest villains in the same season with Rupert and Jonny Fairplay. You know you're in for a good season when Rupert immediately starts stealing people's shoes. And then you have Jonny Fairplay, who's completely despicable. It was actually fun to work with Fairplay on the show because he's a producer's dream. When he shows up drunk or flips somebody off, he's bringing you gold every time. I wish we had a Jonny Fairplay every season. Personally, however, he's an absolute ##### whose actions at the Vanuatu finale after-party pissed me off so much that he's banned from any event that I'm at from now on. I'm done with Jonny Fairplay. Osten was the complete opposite. Outside of the game, Osten is a very likable guy, but on the show he frustrated me because every time he showed up, he wanted to quit. When he finally did quit — the first person ever to do so on the series — we didn't want to give him the honor of being voted out. Instead, we said, ''We're just gonna lay your torch down and you can go home — loser.'' The other thing about Pearl Islands is one of the most debated twists ever — the Outcasts. I hated the Outcasts. I felt it went against everything we say the show is about — that if you are voted out, you are out of the game. In addition, it cost us a great player in Andrew Savage and in return gave us Lill, the most undeserving final-two member ever. But the flip side is, you ask people what the memorable things are about the show and Outcasts always comes up. So, was it a good twist? I guess so. I just philosophically hated it.

4 All-Stars (SEASON 8)
All--Stars, I thought, was great to watch — and miserable for me to experience. Worst season I've ever had. I even considered quitting many times. I thought, I'm done with this show, I don't like it anymore, I don't like these people and their out-of-control egos, I don't like what the show's become. Now, I've gotten some distance from it and realize, it was just a really, really personal season. But it's incredible what happened. First off, there's Jenna with this dramatic gut feeling that something's wrong at home with her mother, who died eight days after Jenna left the island. And then you had this horrible, ugly incident when Sue accused a naked Richard of rubbing himself against her during a challenge. This prompted the single worst Survivor moment I've ever had — standing on the beach with Sue just yelling at me for what happened. That's the only time in nine seasons of Survivor when I had absolutely no idea how to respond. The whole thing between Sue and Richard was a personal train wreck. On the flip side, Boston Rob did something no one has ever done before: He came right out and said, ''I'm running this game, and I'm doing it with my woman tucked under my arm — just try to stop me.'' And somehow he did it, in no small part due to Lex falling for it. Lex will continue to say, ''Hey, I was doing a buddy a favor.'' Bulls---. Lex is a strategist as much as anybody, and he's a good player, but this time, he got played. Much like the Outcasts, I would hope we never do All-Stars again, because Survivor is a game about strangers living together. Once they have had that experience and have spent time together socially, it's a completely different game. It's stunt casting.

5 The Amazon (SEASON 6)
I liked the battle of the sexes. I liked how it exposed the differences between men and women, especially in regards to competition. Initially, it seems that women dominate because guys are still preening for the ladies, but as the game becomes more competitive, the men bond and the women begin to fall apart. Rob Cesternino, of course, was a breakout character and really reminded people how to play this game. Specifically, that if you're fifth on the totem pole, you can get with the folks who are third and fourth and knock off the people above you. Plus, he was obviously full of great one-liners and had a quick wit. And this was definitely the most unpredictable of seasons. How do you ever predict Jenna and Matthew making it to the final two, and the spoiled college-sorority girl winning?!? And she only won because the jury thought Matthew was crazy. And they didn't want to give him the million dollars.

6 Vanuatu (SEASON 9)
Vanuatu is a great example of how I can never predict how a season will be viewed. Personally, I really enjoyed this group of people. They were fun and easy to get along with. But we didn't have the huge characters, so there were no big events from Vanuatu. Oddly, we did have one of the best final Tribal Councils ever, and I think that was because the relationships were so personal. The things that I liked about the season — I loved that we had two gay women on the show, although Scout has since informed me that she's ''omnisexual.'' As for repeating the battle of the sexes again, it's simple: If you do a show long enough, you're going to have to repeat some things. The characters on Friends can only date each other so many times before they start re-dating each other. Every season of Survivor is not going to have a jaw-dropping restructuring. What frustrated me about Vanuatu, watching it as a viewer, was the double standard applied to Chris and Twila. Chris lied more often and with more brutality than Twila ever did. Twila lied once, swearing on her son's life that she'd remain true to her alliance, but Chris lied the entire time. He's probably still lying!

7 Africa (SEASON 3)
On paper, Africa should have been a better season. We had some great players and characters in Lex and Big Tom. We had the most epic locale ever — the middle of Kenya, with giraffes and zebras and gazelle. But I think the fact that there was no water source made it miserable for them to live and miserable for everyone else to watch. It wasn't a fun season. And you ended up with a final two of Ethan, who is a nice guy but boring television, and Kim Johnson, who is a wonderful woman, but again — boring television. That's hard to hear when you're one of those Survivors. It's hard to hear that people didn't like your season, because you take it personally, but this group didn't work. As for the decision to do our first tribe switcheroo 13 days in, that was something we had talked about doing for a while, but the players hated it. I remember Lex looked at me like he wanted to kill me. I'm not sure he feels any differently today.

8 Marquesas (SEASON 4)
One thing that Marquesas has going against it is — worst location ever. I will never go back to Marquesas — ever. The No-No sandflies were eating people alive. Dramatically, I just felt like Marquesas never got any momentum, and by the time you got to the final two with Neleh and Vecepia — I'm sleeping. In terms of casting a good player, we cast well with Vecepia, but in terms of casting for the show — she was a snoozer. And Neleh was no better. It was one of the worst final Tribal Councils ever. It was sooooo boring. At least Kathy was around this season to pee on someone's hand. Although she says what really happened is that a couple of guys tried to pee on John's hand first and had some performance anxiety. So she did it. And then she couldn't stop. The most interesting thing about Marquesas — and what nobody knows — is that we screwed up on the colored-rock tiebreaker that knocked out Paschal. In the event of a Tribal Council tie, Survivors pull rocks out of a bag, and whoever pulls the colored rock is eliminated. The way it's supposed to work is that once the tie is revealed, the people for whom votes have been cast and the person with immunity all become safe; the others have to pull rocks. We didn't realize that process works for all numbers except for four. (With four people left, only one person is eligible to pull a rock since one has immunity and two have received votes.) I realized something was wrong about halfway through as Paschal, Neleh, and Kathy were all pulling their rocks out. Even if I had figured out exactly what was wrong, there would have been no way to correct it because we had already done it. Let me be clear — no rules were violated. It's just not what we meant to happen. And that's the truth.

9 Thailand (SEASON 5)
They're going to hate me for saying this, but this final four of Brian, Clay, Helen, and Jan was the least likable final four ever. And that, in a nutshell, explains why Thailand is No. 9 for me. There was so much negativity, with Ted and Ghandia's he said/she said sexual ''grinding'' incident, and Robb strangling Clay during the ''attack zone'' challenge. And then you felt like you needed a shower after watching Brian play, because he was so sleazy. It was a mean-spirited season. There was a lot of hostility, a lot of ugliness, and that's not fun to watch. We love conflict on Survivor, but conflict that is fun to watch, not conflict that is uncomfortable to watch. It's kinda odd that on the season I liked the least, they decided to ask me to host the reunion special for the first time, although I honestly think that's just because they couldn't find anybody else. I don't think it was that they suddenly thought I could do it. They just couldn't find anybody they liked, so they were like, ''Okay, we'll try Jeff.''

By Jeff Probst, as told to Dalton Ross

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12. "RE: Complete text"
Jiffy's comments are indeed insightful and worth posting! Thanks for bringing them over. I couldn't agree with him more. Except, I might put Africa - 6, Marquesas - 7 and Vanuatu - 8. As for Scout ... she has to be right up there with Lil as "most undeserving"...even if she is omnisexual.



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I liked Jiffy's insights but he isn't being consistant. I think overall game play should count more than characters although I do see a point in having good characters. That's why I agree that Seasons 1 and 2 were the top.

My #3 is Vanuatu.

Yes the jury did have a double standard just as real people do in the real world.

You might ignore or forgive a lie from someone you like than if you don't like them.

Chris played great at the beginning then got lucky because he kept his mouth shut and let the women tear themselves apart.

#4 would be Thailand

I thought that Thailand was the most honest characterwise but it was pretty negative. But then I would get bored if they all said "You're pretty" "No, you're pretty".

#5 Marquesas

I thought the game play was good and the location was excellent. I wanted them to be uncomfortable. That's good TV.

#6 Amazon

Hated the women vs. men twist and Jenna winning. Talk about undeserving. But Rob C. was good to watch. Matthew was crazy.

#7 Peal Islands

Rupert was the only thing good for me.

My final 2 would be All-Stars then Africa

I think for Season 10 they have a chance on returning back to the game we saw in the Outback. Drama and good characters. The best of both worlds.

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Wow! Pretty insightful!

But why did he slam Marquesas so hard? As a viewer, I thought this was the BEST location! It was so beautiful! And the purple rock thing didn't matter since Paschal would've been the 1 eliminated anyway. And how could he say there was no drama? Marquesas had the best non-finale tribal council ever (ep. 12?).

On the other hand, I DO NOT understand the appeal of the Outback. Has anyone seen the "Survivor Australia: Greastest and Most Outrageous Moments" DVD??? That DVD reminded me of how horrible this season was. After Jerri was gone it was damn near unwatchable! How could people like this season? The story was basically the same thing as All-Stars without "All-Stars"

I didn't know Jeff was so anit-Lil!!

Now, I'm no Thailand fan, but how is hostility and negativity not fun to watch?! I sure am glad Jeff only hosts the show and doesn't produce. Wasn't Susan's(S1) speech hostile and negative?

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I think Jiffy disliked Lil because he didn't like the Outcast twist and she was in the Outcast group. She also didn't do much to get to the Final 2.

I thought the Outback was a good season but it did hit a bump when Jerri was booted. Colby's bone head move of taking Tina instead of Keith to the Final 2 made up for any bumps.

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Wasn't Susan's(S1) speech hostile and negative?

ABSOLUTELY! That is what made it so great! Why in the hell do you want to watch a lvoefest at TC? It is for a million dollars for goodness sake!

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11. "RE: Jiffy ranks the season and gives us a few tidbits..."
Interesting observations. I liked Panama and Borneo best.
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20. "RE: Jiffy ranks the season and gives us a few tidbits..."
The outcast tribe was the worst thing to ever grace Survivor, that and Thailand IMHO.
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