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"Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I think he already showed us on his season when he stood over...let's see, which WOMAN was it....as if he was going to beat the crap out of her. One's true colors show when they are angry. We saw his.
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 RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... aquariaqueen 07-20-06 1
 RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... newsomewayne 07-21-06 2
   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... Breezy 07-21-06 3
       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... Snidget 07-21-06 5
           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... Elaine0 07-21-06 6
           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... geg6 07-21-06 7
           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... Savahnna 07-21-06 9
           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... syren 07-24-06 45
 RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... geg6 07-21-06 4
   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-23-06 18
       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... syren 07-24-06 46
           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 54
               RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... syren 07-24-06 58
                   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 62
       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... newsomewayne 07-24-06 69
 RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... Buggy 07-21-06 8
 RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... HistoryDetective 07-21-06 10
   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-23-06 19
       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... HistoryDetective 07-23-06 24
           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... Snidget 07-23-06 25
               RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-23-06 29
           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-23-06 28
               WARNING - shantheWOman Bebo 07-23-06 32
                   RE: WARNING - shantheWOman shantheWOman 07-23-06 33
                   RE: WARNING - shantheWOman shantheWOman 07-23-06 35
                       RE: WARNING - shantheWOman newsomewayne 07-24-06 74
                           RE: WARNING - shantheWOman HistoryDetective 07-24-06 75
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                                   RE: WARNING - shantheWOman HistoryDetective 07-24-06 78
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                               RE: WARNING - shantheWOman newsomewayne 07-24-06 90
                                   RE: WARNING - shantheWOman HistoryDetective 07-24-06 91
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                                       RE: WARNING - shantheWOman newsomewayne 07-24-06 102
                                       RE: WARNING - shantheWOman HistoryDetective 07-24-06 103
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                                               RE: WARNING - shantheWOman HistoryDetective 07-24-06 114
                                                   RE: WARNING - shantheWOman newsomewayne 07-24-06 115
               RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... HistoryDetective 07-24-06 37
                   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 40
                       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... HistoryDetective 07-24-06 44
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                       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... newsomewayne 07-24-06 83
                           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 87
                               RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... HistoryDetective 07-24-06 89
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       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... newsomewayne 07-24-06 71
           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 80
 RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... Tahj 07-21-06 11
   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-23-06 20
 RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... AugustGirl 07-22-06 12
   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... HowiesBF 07-22-06 13
       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... Just Plain Bill 07-23-06 17
           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-23-06 23
               RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... nailbone 07-24-06 119
                   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... Glow 07-24-06 127
                       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... newsomewayne 07-24-06 128
           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... syren 07-24-06 47
               RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 55
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                       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 64
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                                   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... syren 07-24-06 70
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                                           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... nailbone 07-24-06 120
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                                               RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 105
                                                   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... syren 07-24-06 109
                                                       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 112
                                                       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... nailbone 07-24-06 122
                                                   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... HistoryDetective 07-24-06 111
                                                       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 116
                                                           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... syren 07-24-06 118
                                                           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... HistoryDetective 07-24-06 123
                                                           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... nailbone 07-24-06 124
                                                   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... nailbone 07-24-06 121
                                           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... Snidget 07-24-06 98
       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-23-06 22
   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-23-06 21
       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... AugustGirl 07-23-06 27
           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-23-06 31
               RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... brvnkrz 07-23-06 34
                   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-23-06 36
               RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... AugustGirl 07-24-06 38
                   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... brvnkrz 07-24-06 39
                       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... syren 07-24-06 48
                           RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... brvnkrz 07-24-06 50
                               RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... syren 07-24-06 53
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                   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 41
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               RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... AugustGirl 07-24-06 43
                   RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-24-06 51
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 RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... LIVEURBESTLIFE 07-22-06 14
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       RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... shantheWOman 07-23-06 30
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 RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... sh... HistoryDetective 07-24-06 73
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aquariaqueen 2616 desperate attention whore postings
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1. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
And didn't we get to meet his family last year? I didn't need another interview about Kaysar.
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2. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I don't know. Which woman was it? 'Cause I don't remember it.


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3. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I don't either.

There must have been nothing they could show from the house for the past few days... that was a whole bunch of filler.


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5. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
The woman incident was from BB6 I think with Yellvette.

How threatening that was got debated a lot last season.

There were a couple of near fights in BB6.


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07-21-06, 08:48 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I believe Kaysar and Ivette were talking and she said he had no respect for women. Kaysar got angry and stood up Others thought he was going to hit her and came over to break it up.
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7. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Well, hell, I wanted to punch Yellvette every time she came on my TV screen.

Can't blame him for that.


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07-21-06, 10:18 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>The woman incident was from BB6
>I think with Yellvette.
>
>How threatening that was got debated
>a lot last season.
>


I forgot about this myself. Good memory!

I think it's too bad to stereotype Kaysar for that. IF anyone else got up abruptly like that....it would just be seen as "angry"......With all the editing they do....that remark from his sister's could have been left out .


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45. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
There was more to it than that, and Ivette was pushing it, however from watching the feeds that night and seeing the dynamics that were going on I do not think Kaysar would have done anything to her, I think he just wanted her to STFU.


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4. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I don't recall Kaysar acting in a threatening way to a woman, ever.

I'm not a Kaysar fan, but he seems like a nice guy IRL. I admire his dedication to his religion and his wanting to show that all Muslims are not the stereotype.

He seems sweet to me.


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18. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>I don't recall Kaysar acting in
>a threatening way to a
>woman, ever.
>


Yes, he stood up, walking very slowly and threatening over to her, then stood right over her with his chest all puffed out, fists at his sides, peering down on her with smoke coming out of his nostrils. The other guys got up and had to stand between him and the woman he looked like he was going to pummel.

I remember it very clearly. They even showed a clip of it on the first or second episode of All Stars.

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46. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Thats not exactly how it happened...not at all...

Yes he did stand up, yes he did approach her...did she ever shut her mouth...nope not during the whole freaking season which is pretty much why she lost.

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54. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>
>Yes he did stand up, yes
>he did approach her...did she
>ever shut her mouth...nope not
>during the whole freaking season
>which is pretty much why
>she lost.
>


One can mouth off all they please. It's when you cross over to being physical or making threats of being physical where you've blown it. Kaysar can't just pound someone into shutting up. Talking is ok, hitting is not. Not that he did that, but he did make it very clear that THAT'S what was on his mind. And for a man to make a move towards a woman, whether slow or quick, is unacceptable, no matter how much fluff you're fed from the liberals who want to blur the sexes, insists there is no distinction between male and female, blah, blah, blah, Kaysar was way wrong.

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58. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Blur the sexes...

I think I like that idea, because then a woman could actually earn the same amount as a man doing the same job instead of about $.75 to every $1.00 he makes.


Either way...people have different perceptions, and being one of those that watched the feed while it was actually happening, he was no more threatening than she was. One can be threatening with your words and tone of voice, just as one can be threatening with their body language.


As a domestic abuse survivor...both are equally as bad. But what happened that night was not what the editing on TV portrayed.

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62. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>Blur the sexes...
>
>I think I like that idea,
>because then a woman could
>actually earn the same amount
>as a man doing the
>same job instead of about
>$.75 to every $1.00 he
>makes.

You fell for that claim? Strange, I made exactly what every man doing the same job I did made. More in some cases. My mom also made the same if not more than her male co-workers doing the same job, depending on seniority. However starting pay and all raises were exactly the same. I guess there are some places who try to pull that off, but as with most bad behavior towards women, it's partially women's responsibility to not put up with it.

>
>
>Either way...people have different perceptions, and
>being one of those that
>watched the feed while it
>was actually happening, he was
>no more threatening than she
>was. One can be threatening
>with your words and tone
>of voice, just as one
>can be threatening with their
>body language.
>


Yeah, Ivette sitting down and Kaysar hovering over her is the same thing. Yep, they were on equal footing. Uhuh.

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69. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I remember it very clearly.

This is why it's always good to have multiple witnesses for fast-paced, chaotic events. 100% agreement on what, how, or why things happened just ain't gonna be achieved, here or otherwise. Also, personal bias or inclination will influence anyone's perception.


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8. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I'm not sure what you mean.
Are you saying he proves some stereotype of an Arab man?

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10. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I think he already showed us on his season when he stood over...let's see, which WOMAN was it....as if he was going to beat the crap out of her.

Which point are you trying to make?

A. It is less acceptable to threaten a WOMAN than it is a man. (WOMEN deserve special treatment and should not be treated the same as men.)

B. Kaysar is a case study of gender relations for all Arab men, a microcosm of how all Arab men treat WOMEN.

C. Something else completely.


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19. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>
>Which point are you trying to
>make?
>


That he showed us his true colors when he threatened a woman with physical harm. You didn't get that? Wow.

I don't care what his nationality or religion is, a man does not threaten to or physically harm a woman. If you disagree that's on you.

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24. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I tend to think that one person should not threaten or physically harm another person, period.

The part that I don't get is why you are so hung up on a person with a penis possibly threatening to harm a person with a vagina instead of just being concerned that a person possibly threatened to harm another person. Why do which genitals the two possess matter so much to you?


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25. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
HD--I thought you knew, females must be allowed to be as rude as they want, threaten to go Cuban on everyone's azz and use as many racial, ethic, or other slurs they want and there should never be any repercussions, what-so-ever, no matter what Well unless of course you are VIP waitress, then everything you do is wrong by definition.


It's a tribe creation!

I don't condone violence at any time, but some people have been seen to do everything in their power to provoke violence in others, and you do that long enough eventually you will pizz someone off.

Getting really really pizzed is still a long way from hitting people IMO, but that is me.

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29. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>HD--I thought you knew, females must
>be allowed to be as
>rude as they want, threaten
>to go Cuban on everyone's
>azz and use as many
>racial, ethic, or other slurs
>they want and there should
>never be any repercussions, what-so-ever,
>no matter what


Another gender confused individual. I bet the men in your family, at least the ones who acknowledge that they in fact ARE men, beat women. Only a confused person could defend a man hitting a woman. Shame on you.


>Well unless of course you
>are VIP waitress, then everything
>you do is wrong by
>definition.

Now you're coming around!!! I especially like to rag on the ones who look like men. Janie's hiding an adam's apple. I'm on to her. I wonder if she'd be just as good at delivering a Rootie Tootie Fresh and Fruity Grand Slam breakfast as she is delivering a Johnny Walker straight up. Probably. I mean holding a plate seems easier than a drink. Unless it's a stack of plates vs. a hole TRAY full of drinks. Man I admire her.

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07-23-06, 10:32 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>I tend to think that one
>person should not threaten or
>physically harm another person, period.
>
>
>The part that I don't get
>is why you are so
>hung up on a person
>with a penis possibly threatening
>to harm a person with
>a vagina instead of just
>being concerned that a person
>possibly threatened to harm another
>person. Why do which
>genitals the two possess matter
>so much to you?
>


You're transgendered, aren't you? Or gender confused. What you should be more concerned with is why my posts bother you so much.

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07-23-06, 10:42 PM (EST)
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32. "WARNING - shantheWOman "
Please read our community guidelines - there's a link at the top of the page. Bashing other posters is not permitted here.

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07-23-06, 10:43 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
I certainly hope you're delivering that warning to EVERYone here.
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35. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
And since when is being transgendered or gender confused an INSULT? I think we see where this web site stands on the matter. Don't ask, don't tell.
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07-24-06, 10:59 AM (EST)
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74. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
It's not. But using the terms to insinuate that one who is has diminished intelligence or at least diminished perception of a situation IS an insult, and thus, against site guidelines.


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75. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
You are a lot more articulate today than I could be. That's generally a good thing, but I fear that your powers may be wasted in this instance.


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76. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
Maybe it's best if we just ignore her and go about our normal business. People are getting upset and it isn't her. So it really isn't worth it anymore. We all know we aren't going to get through to her so no point in us getting upset and/or in trouble.


*smooch*

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78. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
Spoken like a true game warden!

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79. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
I think you may be right.

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84. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
You do image searches on google so much better than I do!

I am so jealous!

*waits for the psychological analysis*


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86. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
>Maybe it's best if we just
>ignore her and go about
>our normal business. People are
>getting upset and it isn't
>her. So it really isn't
>worth it anymore. We all
>know we aren't going to
>get through to her so
>no point in us getting
>upset and/or in trouble.
>


All this angst because I bashed Janelle in the BASHING forum. Unbelievable! You can't be serious. Can you? You've got to be kidding me. You're truly USPET about Janelle being bashed in the BASHING forum? Are you REALLY taking this THAT seriously?

LOL!!!! It's a sad laugh, really.

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88. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
I am really beginning to think that "Big Brother" ran its All Stars season one year too early. They should have held off a year to give you a chance to be in the house. I know that you would give great TV, a combination of Cowboy and Diane all rolled into one! That would really keep viewers glued to the live feeds.


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95. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
>I am really beginning to think
>that "Big Brother" ran its
>All Stars season one year
>too early. They should
>have held off a year
>to give you a chance
>to be in the house.
> I know that you
>would give great TV, a
>combination of Cowboy and Diane
>all rolled into one!
>That would really keep viewers
>glued to the live feeds.
>


Thank you for that beautiful display of hypocricy, I LOVE IT!!

You insinuated that both Cowboy and Diane are somehow so subhuman that to compare someone to them would be the utmost in insults. All after newsomewayne told us all how unacceptable it was to ponder aloud whether you are transgendered or gender confused in an attempt (untrue however) to diminish your intelligence or perception, yada...yada...yada...

Here: I'll quote for you:


newsomewayne wrote: " But using the terms to insinuate that one who is has diminished intelligence or at least diminished perception of a situation IS an insult, and thus, against site guidelines."

So, newsomewayne must also think that you've broken guidelines after using Cowbay and Diane to insinuate that I have diminsished intelligence or a diminished perception of a situation. As you claim I did when I used the terms transgendered and gender confused. Both which the moderators or this website in general have made clear they are intolerant of.

I'll ask you History, and apparently newsomewayne agrees with me here, please stop using "terms" to do that. It just shows you're a hypocrite.

Pot kettle, kettle, pot.

BTW, you just bashed Diane and Cowboy, just like I bashed Janelle. Unless the entire thread is full of hypocrites you must now be beheaded for such a post.

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99. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
You should tkae the compliments where you can get them. In case you forgot, Cowby came in second place during his season thanks to a brilliant strategy of being aware of what was happening around him and accurately understanding the interactions of other people. He did so well that he was one of only twenty former houseguests to be nominated for All Stars. Diane came in third in her season and returned for All Stars where she has successfully avoided eviction so far.

I am confused about which "terms" you imagine I used.


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106. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
>You should tkae the compliments where
>you can get them.
>In case you forgot, Cowby
>came in second place during
>his season thanks to a
>brilliant strategy of being aware
>of what was happening around
>him and accurately understanding the
>interactions of other people.
>He did so well that
>he was one of only
>twenty former houseguests to be
>nominated for All Stars.
>Diane came in third in
>her season and returned for
>All Stars where she has
>successfully avoided eviction so far.


Which is why I don't think being compared to Cowboy is an insult. But that doesn't change the fact that newsomewayne, or whoever the hell wrote it, used it to TRY to insult me.


>
>I am confused about which "terms"
>you imagine I used.


Terms which have been either used to insult, have been accused of being used to insult: transgendered, gender confused, Cowboy, Diane.
>

BTW I could have SWORE you said you had better things to do. And someone else suggested you ignore me. I knew you were both lying. Or too weak.

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07-24-06, 12:45 PM (EST)
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113. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
LAST EDITED ON 07-24-06 AT 12:51 PM (EST)

But that doesn't change the fact that newsomewayne, or whoever the hell wrote it, used it to TRY to insult me.

See, if you're trying to have a conversation instead of just ranting, then it is helpful to know who you are talking to and who said what --- and then try to figure out what they meant by it instead of knee-jerking off a response.

Terms which have been either used to insult, have been accused of being used to insult: transgendered, gender confused, Cowboy, Diane.

I asked which "terms" you imagined that I had used. I never used the terms "transgendered" or "gender confused." You introduced them into this discussion.

Cowboy and Diane are "names." They are also "reality television personalities." Neither of them are "terms."

BTW I could have SWORE you said you had better things to do.

No, what I said was that "I don't know who is in charge of crapbaskets around here. I have other things to worry about." That merely states that the crapbaskets are not my concern. It says nothing about participating in the thread as a whole. Once again, this is a case where actually reading and attempting to understand what somebody has to say would be helpful instead of making something up so you can rant about it.

And someone else suggested you ignore me.

Was that person a moderator? Since you know so well how things work here, you surely understand the important distinction inherent in that question.


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07-24-06, 12:16 PM (EST)
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100. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
Bashing reality show contestants is completly allowed by the guidelines of this board.
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107. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
>Bashing reality show contestants is completly
>allowed by the guidelines of
>this board.


Then I'm golden.

Janelle looks like a man.

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07-24-06, 11:19 AM (EST)
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82. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
>It's not.


Without a quote from the post you're responding to, it's hard to know what you're talking about.

But using the
>terms to insinuate that one
>who is has diminished intelligence
>or at least diminished perception
>of a situation IS an
>insult, and thus, against site
>guidelines.

Really, I wish people would stop doing that.

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07-24-06, 11:47 AM (EST)
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90. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
Sorry. For one, my post was connected to yours. You can tell that by the way it is 1) below yours, and 2) indented. Secondly, your post was only two lines long and had only one question. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out what I was replying to. But in case you missed it, it was this, And since when is being transgendered or gender confused an INSULT?


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07-24-06, 11:52 AM (EST)
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91. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
I thought that we already covered what it means to be part of a threaded community. I guess that you're not the only one who needs to enroll in Reading Comprehension 101, Wayne.


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96. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
>Sorry. For one, my post
>was connected to yours.
>You can tell that by
>the way it is 1)
>below yours, and 2) indented.
> Secondly, your post was
>only two lines long and
>had only one question.
>It shouldn't be that hard
>to figure out what I
>was replying to. But
>in case you missed it,
>it was this, And
>since when is being transgendered
>or gender confused an INSULT?
>


Who has time to fish through posts to see what the one above it says. Oh, shoot, I must be having a Diane/Cowboy moment.

Oh-oh, was that wrong of me? To bash on the bashing forum? Actually I wasn't bashing, I was just reiterating someone else's bash. Who I'm sure will get an award for THEIR bashing.

Pot, kettle, kettle pot.

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07-24-06, 12:18 PM (EST)
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102. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
Well, I feel that Roz was very funny, but that Josh should ge the most votes.


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103. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
Who has time to fish through posts to see what the one above it says.

Anybody attempting to have a coherent and informed discussion. Anybody who respects the other members of the community enough to actually pay attention to what they have too say instead of going off on the same rehearsed rant repeatedly.


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07-24-06, 12:31 PM (EST)
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108. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
>Who has time to fish through
>posts to see what the
>one above it says.

>
>Anybody attempting to have a coherent
>and informed discussion. Anybody
>who respects the other members
>of the community enough to
>actually pay attention to what
>they have too say instead
>of going off on the
>same rehearsed rant repeatedly.
>


Or you could use common sense and use quotes.

BTW, I thought you had better things to do than continue this discussion.

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114. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
Who has time to edit in a bunch of quotes when the quoted material will appear in the post directly above the reply, especially when the threaded format makes it so easy to figure out the direction of the conversation.

No, I didn't. Where did you ever get that impression?


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115. "RE: WARNING - shantheWOman "
Where did you ever get that impression?

Forget it. He doesn't have the time to actually see the post numbers or read complete posts and actually point out something like a true example to make his point.


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37. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
You're transgendered, aren't you? Or gender confused.

Nope, neither of those, not that either of them has any relevance or validity in assessing my opinion.

What you should be more concerned with is why my posts bother you so much.

What bothers me is that I don't believe in essentialism ... and the brand of essentialism that you are peddling is sexist in its very nature. You state that threats of physical violence in this case are wrong because it was a man possibly threatening a woman --- implying that such supposed threats would be less inappropriate if it were a man possibly threatening another man or a woman possibly threatening a man. If the sex of the participants weren't so important to you, then you wouldn't keep underscoring it. You don't seem concerned at all that it was one person possibly threatening another person. The vital part of the equation for you is that it was a man possibly threatening a WOMAN.


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And, as so many others have already pointed out, you have given that situation an overly simplistic interpretation. There was a lot more context involved that you are ignoring.

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07-24-06, 08:35 AM (EST)
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40. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>
>Nope, neither of those, not that
>either of them has any
>relevance or validity in assessing
>my opinion.

Confirms the confusion.


>
>What bothers me is that I
>don't believe in essentialism ...
>and the brand of essentialism
>that you are peddling is
>sexist in its very nature.
> You state that threats
>of physical violence in this
>case are wrong because it
>was a man possibly threatening
>a woman --- implying that
>such supposed threats would be
>less inappropriate if it were
>a man possibly threatening another
>man or a woman possibly
>threatening a man. If
>the sex of the participants
>weren't so important to you,
>then you wouldn't keep underscoring
>it. You don't seem
>concerned at all that it
>was one person possibly threatening
>another person. The vital
>part of the equation for
>you is that it was
>a man possibly threatening a
>WOMAN.

Man, can you BELIEVE that Kaysar threatened a WOMAN!! Shows his true colors, doesn't it? Men just do NOT get violent with woman. Hope he doesn't turn out to be a wife-beater.


LOL That was fun.

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44. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Confirms the confusion.

Yup! You got me figured out! Your fallacy in logic is absolutely completely conclusive.

LOL That was fun.

Sure was, if nonsensical verbal masturbation is what does it for you ... and in your case, it seems to. I just wish that you were getting enough B12.


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07-24-06, 10:09 AM (EST)
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52. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Hey, remember when Kaysar threatened Ivette? Can you believe a man actually thought he could physically threaten a woman and that would be ok? You'd think he would realize that a man threatening a woman isn't cool.
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56. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Okay we get it...men threatening women is not good...

but what about women threatening men, like when Janelle actually smacked Beau.


Not that I am complaining, I woulda too.

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07-24-06, 10:22 AM (EST)
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60. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>Okay we get it...men threatening women
>is not good...
>
>but what about women threatening men,
>like when Janelle actually smacked
>Beau.
>
>


Hitting someone, unless it's self defense, isn't ever right.

But let's face it Janelle hitting Beau IS more like a man hitting a woman.

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61. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."

"Janelle hitting Beau IS more like a man hitting a woman"

Why do you say that?


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65. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>
>"Janelle hitting Beau IS more like
>a man hitting a woman"

>
>
>Why do you say that?
>
>


LOL!! You're cute when you play dumb.

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93. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Not playing dumb...it's a legitimate question regarding your post.

You can choose not to answer it, but insinuating that I am playing dumb is a little bombastic.


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07-24-06, 12:13 PM (EST)
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97. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>Not playing dumb...


LOL. I'll let that little gem stand on it's own.


Feel free to repeat the question I so-called "didn't answer."

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104. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
"Janelle hitting Beau IS more like a man hitting a woman"


Why do you say that? Was the original question.


And I really hope that you were not inferring that I am dumb, with this ">Not playing dumb...

LOL. I'll let that little gem stand on it's own."

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07-24-06, 12:33 PM (EST)
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110. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>"Janelle hitting Beau IS more like
>a man hitting a woman"

>
>
>
>Why do you say that? Was
>the original question.
>


Because Beau is feminine and Janelle is hiding an Adam's Apple.

I'm sure you'll disagree. But seeing as how we can all do that and still get alonge without resorting to personal attackes (or whatever it was the person who posted that said) I'm sure you'll just nod and smile.

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83. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>
>Nope, neither of those, not that
>either of them has any
>relevance or validity in assessing
>my opinion.

Confirms the confusion.

Nope. HD's style is a well established fact on this site (in another forum). There is no confusion on his or other regular posters' parts. Whether he chooses to disclose that to you is his choosing.

No matter what though, he's absolutely right when he says it has no bearing whatsoever on his reasoning or arguments nor should it have any on your rebuttal.


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87. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>
>No matter what though, he's absolutely
>right when he says it
>has no bearing whatsoever on
>his reasoning or arguments nor
>should it have any on
>your rebuttal.


Says you. Incorrectly. But says you.

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89. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Yeah! Take that, Wayne! Nana-nana-booboo!

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117. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Says you. Incorrectly. But says you.

Nice come-back. Brief, concise, puerile.


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71. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I don't care what his nationality or religion is,

ahem, *points to shan's subject* Your original post TITLE seems to indicate otherwise.


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80. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>
>ahem, *points to shan's subject*
>Your original post TITLE seems
>to indicate otherwise.
>


Ahemm...it was his sister who made the "Arab man" comment, not me. I was simply pointing to his actions.

Reading comprehension 101 anyone?

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11. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Don't forget that Yellvette provoked him. One of the things I can remember is that she accused him hating women.



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20. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>Don't forget that Yellvette provoked him.
> One of the things
>I can remember is that
>she accused him hating women.
>


And apparenlty he thought the way to rubuke that was to stand up and prove her right.

P.S. I don't think that is what he would have proved, but it didn't do him any favors.

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12. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
What show are you watching?

Kaysar is a class act all the way.


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13. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
LAST EDITED ON 07-22-06 AT 01:43 PM (EST)

I don't think he showed any threat to Evilette last year at all. So he stood up in front of her (while she stayed seated) - big deal. If she took it as a threat - that's her problem. She should have stood up too, and showed she was on equal footing with him.

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17. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
<<I don't think he showed any threat to Evilette last year
>at all. So he stood up in front of her (while she stayed seated) - big deal. If she took it as a threat - that's her problem.>>

As I recall, she was reclining on a chaise lounge and Kaysar didn't just 'stand up', he ran over and straddled the lounge standing over her, fists clenched. That's a definite threat.

Oth, I only saw the telecast, not the live feeds, but given Yellvette's penchant for antagonizing people, Kaysar's losing control isn't surprising. I'm sure there was a lot more negative interaction that led up to that incident.

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23. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>As I recall, she was reclining
>on a chaise lounge and
>Kaysar didn't just 'stand up',
>he ran over and straddled
>the lounge standing over her,
>fists clenched. That's a definite
>threat.
>
LOL, no, that's not the way it happened. But that is pretty funny.

I'm off to watch BB.

BBL.

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119. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
BBL.

??? This is a new acronym that I'm not familiar with. What does it mean?


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127. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
be back later?
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128. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Busty blonde loser?


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47. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Hi Bill...

Thats not what happened at all. He was on one side of the table and she was on the other...

They had more words than just what was aired, and Ivette was just acting horrible. Kaysar did stand up but he never stradled her...and while his hands were closed he never waved a fist at her...


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55. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>They had more words than just
>what was aired, and Ivette
>was just acting horrible. Kaysar
>did stand up but he
>never stradled her...and while his
>hands were closed he never
>waved a fist at her...
>

Thank goodness the other men made sure that never happened.

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59. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."

What other men? The ones that were really fighting or Jeid Howie who just said, come on man...sit down...


Yeah, he saved her life.

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64. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>
>What other men? The ones that
>were really fighting or Jeid
>Howie who just said, come
>on man...sit down...
>


The other men in the house who came to her defense. If they would play that clip again I could name them off. Who was Jedi Howie fighting with, his imaginary foe?

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67. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Oh you don't remember that episode. I thought that was the episode we were discussing...

Kaysar and Ivette in the backyard sitting at the table arguing...

Kaysar standing up and walking towards her and her still talking crap...

the only "man" I remember coming to her aid was Howie.

Howie.
Real powerful, manly, Howie.


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68. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
One doesn't have to stop talking when someone walks toward them. Unless I missed that memo.
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70. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I guess that same memo was the one that also said you do not have to sit and take someone bashing your beliefs and principles, or that standing up to make a point does not always equal violent tendencies.


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77. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>I guess that same memo was
>the one that also said
>you do not have to
>sit and take someone bashing
>your beliefs and principles

Oh, my, someone is bashing someone else's beliefs and principals? Who was doing that, I didn't see those posts.

, or
>that standing up to make
>a point does not always
>equal violent tendencies.
>


It wasn't the standing up part so much as the deliberate, calculated movement toward, followed by the puffed out chest, clinched fists, the getting as close to without actually touching, heavy breathing, someone-better-stop-me demeanor of his actions that delivered to message of the threat of physical violence.

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120. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Oh, my, someone is bashing someone else's beliefs and principals? Who was doing that, I didn't see those posts.

No, no, see, Ivette was bashing Kaysar's beliefs and principles. That's what Syren was referring to, not posts here.

And no mention anywhere of what schools they went to or who the principals were.


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92. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>I guess that same memo was
>the one that also said
>you do not have to
>sit and take someone bashing
>your beliefs and principles, or
>that standing up to make
>a point does not always
>equal violent tendencies.
>
>

You mean the way I've been bashed for my beliefs that Janelle over inflates the value of being a VIP cocktail waitress as better than being a waitress say....at an IHOP?

You mean like that?

And the way that I've been bashed for my principle of men not being able to either make a threat regarding violence or actually being violent against a woman?

You mean like that?

BTW, I'm curious now what it was EXACTLY about my original post in the BASHER forum, I'll add again, that was so bad? That brought about me being attacked for my beliefs and principles?

Anyone?

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94. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."

Ummm...you are taking this way to personally.

I was referring to the actual argument between Ivette and Kaysar, the one you started this thread over. The one where she attacked his beliefs and principles.

My post was in direct order with your post, it was a response to this thread, not another one. Nor was it a bash against you for anything you have said or done.

However...if you are wondering...it's okay to bash the players yes, but it is never okay to make any type of comments about other posters, regarding their sexuality, gender, family, intelligence, personality, or anything. That is in the guidelines which I am pretty sure many people have pointed you in that general direction.

My post was a post regarding your initial post. The fight began when she began attacking his Muslim beliefs, and his principles.


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105. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>
>I was referring to the actual
>argument between Ivette and Kaysar,
>the one you started this
>thread over. The one where
>she attacked his beliefs and
>principles.

Back peddling? You can't let some people attack other's beliefs and principles and condemn others for doing so. If you are giving Kaysar to bone of defending HIS beliefs, then you must also leave me alone when I state what mine are: that Janelle has GOT to be joking to pump up being a VIP cocktail waitress as better than any other kind. You can't pick and choose who gets that freedom based on who you like or for any other reason.

>

>but
>it is never okay to
>make any type of comments
>about other posters, regarding their
>sexuality, gender, family, intelligence, personality,
>or anything.

Which I didn't do. The statement "you must be transgendered or gender confused" was nothing more than an observation. If YOU took it as an insult, well, I guess that speaks more to YOUR stance on the transgendered or the gender confused. You apparently think and assume that the mere mention of such can only be an insult. Odd.

BTW, if I had said, "you must be a man," would have also accused me of insulting? After all it IS a comment about sex. Hmmmmm.....

>
>My post was a post regarding
>your initial post. The fight
>began when she began attacking
>his Muslim beliefs, and his
>principles.


I absolutely NEVER said a WORD about his Muslim beliefs. You have crossed a line when you accuse me of that. Please provide the post in quotes where I typed one word about Muslims. I quoted his sister, who said he is an Arab. Which he is. If YOU have some adversity toward Arab men, that's your bigotted problem, but do not accuse me of attacking him for his Muslim beliefs. I attacked his threat to a woman, which any decent person would do. Calling and Arab and Arab is fact. Am I attacking Howie if I call him an American?

Don't even GO there accusing me of attacking his Muslim beliefs.

It IS getting personal now.


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109. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Okay...I'm sorry...I thought we were having a discussion regarding Ivette and kaysar and the argument that occurred before he stood up and approached her. That is what my entire post was based upon...I am not discussing anything about the other thread, as I am posting in only this one, because I watched it play out on the live feeds.

Since you continuously try to twist words and turn this into something it is not, I will leave it at that. That Kaysar only approached Ivette when SHE (not you unless you are her) attacked his beliefs. It was not a violent move.

Just a small suggestion, stop with trying to make it personal and discuss the show. This is a community, and one where we do not bash other posters, even if it is with just snide off the wall comments. If you look back to my posts to you, I was simply trying to keep it on target, on the actual discussion that you started. In no way was I ever trying to get personal or bash you or anyone else. I do not do that. As for the other insinuations in your post regarding me, if you would like to know if I am male or female, transgendered or not, or whatever...there is a time and place for that and a show forum is not it. You can send me a PM and ask me there, otherwise please refrain from making post that directly attack posters and keep it with the show.


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112. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>Since you continuously try to twist
>words and turn this into
>something it is not, I
>will leave it at that.

Translation: I don't have a clue what to say now that you've shown you're right.


>That Kaysar only approached Ivette
>when SHE (not you unless
>you are her) attacked his
>beliefs. It was not a
>violent move.


Just because someone speaks their mind, which is protected under the law, doesn't mean a person may then use actual, threatned violence.


Other than that I haven't attacked anyone personally. Though I have been attacked. Though I'm sure you find it fascinating I, however, couldn't care less whether you're male, female, or what your sexual orientation may be. And I will always be sarcastic. Don't like it. I can live with that.

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122. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Ivette when SHE (not you unless you are her)

THAT's IT!!!! Ivette, is that you??

Bitter about not getting voted back in, huh? Come on, go ghetto in my ass now. Get Cuban on me.

That could be fun.


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111. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
If YOU took it as an insult, well, I guess that speaks more to YOUR stance on the transgendered or the gender confused. You apparently think and assume that the mere mention of such can only be an insult. Odd.

You apparently know absolutely nothing about the peeps that you are ranting against in this thread. Some of them identify as gay, lesbian, and bisexual --- and have the utmost respect for the transgendered community because they understand the persecution that transgendered people experience, or the blatant disregard, like throwing around the words "transgendered" and "gender confused" for no real purpose. At least one peep participating in this thread did graduate work in gender studies and regularly teaches courses crosslisted with the Program for the Study of Women, Gender, and Sexuality at that peep's university. Some peeps are taking a more expansive view than you are of sex, gender, sexuality, and identity based on their personal experiences and education. If you had any interest in other members of this community beyond just ranting against them, you might have figured some of this out on your own. Peeps aren't exactly shy around here.

I absolutely NEVER said a WORD about his Muslim beliefs. You have crossed a line when you accuse me of that.

No, syren did not, because she never accused you of attacking Kaysar's religious beliefs. She explained the context of the incident you mentioned when you started this thread. Syren stated that Ivette attacked Kaysar's beliefs and that he in turn stood up for himself. Several dozen people have participated on this thread. You should learn to distinguish one person from another. They all have their individual personalities, ideas, and opinions. Just because one person says something does not mean that you can attribute what that person said to any other person that you want to rannt against.


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116. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>
>You apparently know absolutely nothing about
>the peeps that you are
>ranting against in this thread.

I have ranted about no such thing. You, however, have been harping on it for posts and posts. After you claim you have better things to do even.

> Some of them identify
>as gay, lesbian, and bisexual
>--- and have the utmost
>respect for the transgendered community
>because they understand the persecution
>that transgendered people experience, or
>the blatant disregard, like throwing
>around the words "transgendered" and
>"gender confused" for no real
>purpose.


I had a very good reason. Your posts ranting and raving about vaginas and penis' like some committed mental case running around smearing feses would easily lead one to believe you wanted to erase the fact that females and males are in fact different. Not a good purpose to you. Good purpose to me.

AS fascinated as I'm sure you are with all things vagina, penis and transgendered I am not as easily amused or sidetracked. You and your type like to make much fuss about the simplest of things. You may be impressed by graduate, post-graduate work, blah...blah...blah....on the subject. No surprise there. I'm not that easily impressed.


>
>No, syren did not, because she
>never accused you of attacking
>Kaysar's religious beliefs.

She most certainly did. would you like me to copy and paste? It doesn't surprise me that you "missed" that post. After all you think that a man physically threatening or assaulting a woman is ok.

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118. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
"She most certainly did. would you like me to copy and paste?"

I would like to know which post it was where I said that you were attacking Kaysar's religious beliefs. As in SHE I was referring to Ivette.



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123. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
LAST EDITED ON 07-24-06 AT 01:54 PM (EST)

>You apparently know absolutely nothing about the peeps that you are ranting against in this thread.

I have ranted about no such thing.

That response makes no sense. "No such thing" ...? I was talking about your general demeanor.

Your posts ranting and raving about vaginas and penis' like some committed mental case running around smearing feses would easily lead one to believe you wanted to erase the fact that females and males are in fact different.

I used the words "penis" and "vagina" in one post to make a point. I hardly raved about it like a mental case smearing feces. Instead, I approached the issue from the point of view of somebody who has actually read some books on gender studies and the history of gender.

You may be impressed by graduate, post-graduate work, blah...blah...blah....on the subject.

I'm sorry if people having special expertise is of little relevance to you. Personally I prefer that doctors should study medicine, accountants should study bookkeeping, lawyers should study law, ministers should study theology, and when anybody who has special expertise in a subject chimes in with a more informed opinion than the that of the average lay person they generally merit some sort of attention and respect. (I cannot wait to see how you get fixated on one of those occupations and completely twist the entire meaning.)

After you claim you have better things to do even.

Once again, I said no such thing. Please take your own advice and look into that Reading Comprehension 101 course. Saying something over and over does not make it true.

You and your type like to make much fuss about the simplest of things.

Which type would that be?

>No, syren did not, because she never accused you of attacking Kaysar's religious beliefs.

She most certainly did. would you like me to copy and paste?

Yes, I would. Please show me where she said any such thing.

After all you think that a man physically threatening or assaulting a woman is ok.

While you are cutting and pasting, please identify where I said any such thing. I distinctly said that I opposed violence between any two people. The inclusive nature of such a statement includes men assaulting women. It does not exclude men assaulting women. Even somebody with the reading skills of a third-grader should be able to understand such a simple statement. If you want to have a discussion, please do not lie about what people have said.


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124. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
She most certainly did. would you like me to copy and paste?

Yep. Let's see it.


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121. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>My post was a post regarding
>your initial post. The fight
>began when she began attacking
>his Muslim beliefs, and his
>principles.


I absolutely NEVER said a WORD about his Muslim beliefs. You have crossed a line when you accuse me of that. Please provide the post in quotes where I typed one word about Muslims.

LOL...now you're just making stuff up. The "she" in that statement was Ivette, not you.

Helps if you read what you're quoting.


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98. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Most of the thread is people either agreeing or disagreeing with you, actually until you came back most of it was us agreeing or disagreeing with each other more than you specifically.

That is not bashing. Discussing the person rather than the opinion is bashing. Who the person is does not intrinsically invalidate their opinion.

If we all had to agree all the time this would be a very boring place.

Most of the men shouldn't hit woman disagreement IMO focused on why that violence seems to in your opinion be different from any other form of violence. For me I don't care who hit whom, violence is violence.

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22. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
PM (EST)
>
>I don't think he showed any
>threat to Evilette last year
>at all. So he stood
>up in front of her
>(while she stayed seated) -
>big deal. If she took
>it as a threat -
>that's her problem. She should
>have stood up too, and
>showed she was on equal
>footing with him.

It was the OTHER men in the house who took it as a threat, when they came between him. It was definately a threat. I understand you don't WANT to accept what happened. You want to continue to worship Kaysay.

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21. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>What show are you watching?
>
>Kaysar is a class act all
>the way.


I was watching Big Brother. The one where Kaysar stood up and threatened a woman. Did you miss that episode?

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27. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I didn't miss that episode because he didn't threaten her.
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31. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>I didn't miss that episode because
>he didn't threaten her.


Yes, he did. You were just at the refridgerater getting your fouth Ding-Dong (sets of TWO I might add) at the time and missed it.


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34. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I was trying to be nice in the other thread and help you out here. But now I'll just alert you instead.


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36. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>I was trying to be nice
>in the other thread and
>help you out here. But
>now I'll just alert you
>instead.


I needed help? That's news to me. Alert me to what?

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38. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
You were just at the refridgerater getting your fouth Ding-Dong (sets of TWO I might add) at the time and missed it.

Really, if you want to insult me you're going to have to do better than a Ding Dong diss.

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39. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
HoHo?


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48. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Someone say HoHo?


What about a twinkie...

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50. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
You just KNOW that I was thinking of you when I wrote that. *grin*


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53. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I was hoping so...

I was thinking of...oh wait this is supposed to be pg-13...got a twinkie?

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57. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>Someone say HoHo?
>
Don't say HoHo. Or Ding Dong!! Especially Ding Dongs. Apparently some people are offended by Ding Dongs. And they're offended by transgendered people. Can you imagine? Thinking that being transgendered is bad and insulting. I should call the ACLU.
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63. "A brief educational moment before we return to what passes for entertainment on this thread."
Um. Here is the thing.

Saying things about people's weight, gender, sexuality, ethnicity, personal hygiene, parentage, or favorite position, etc. as a rebuttal against an arguement is not usually the best way to make your point. It also tends to get you run afoul of the "no bashing other people" rule around here. Technically it is called an ad hominem attack.

Hopefully you have something else in your discussion technique skill set.


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*waiting to see how this is going to be twisted*

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66. "RE: A brief educational moment before we return to what passes for entertainment on this thread."
>Um. Here is the thing.
>
>
>Saying things about people's weight, gender,
>sexuality, ethnicity, personal hygiene, parentage,
>or favorite position, etc. as
>a rebuttal against an arguement
>is not usually the best
>way to make your point.
> It also tends to
>get you run afoul of
>the "no bashing other people"
>rule around here. Technically
>it is called an ad >hominem> attack.
>
>Hopefully you have something else in
>your discussion technique skill set.

What about saying something about someone's discussion technique skills?

Just trying to get straight when it's ok to bash and when it's not. Gender, sexuality, ethnicity, etc. NOT ok, discussion technique OK. Gotcha.

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72. "RE: A brief educational moment before we return to what passes for entertainment on this thread."
Oh dear. I really did hope there is more to you than what you have IMO so far presented.

I didn't not realize trying to believe the best about someone even when they do not show it was bashing.


It's a tribe creation!

*just in case I alerted my own post to the blue peeps so they can let me know if I stepped over the line that is so gosh-darn hard to find around here*

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81. "RE: A brief educational moment before we return to what passes for entertainment on this thread."
>Oh dear. I really did
>hope there is more to
>you than what you have
>IMO so far presented.
>


OMG, I was justing thinking the same thing about you!!! Only I was nice enough not to actually type it. Why the anger?

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85. "RE: A brief educational moment before we return to what passes for entertainment on this thread."
Angry, I'm not angry?

Sorry if I gave you that impression.

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41. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>
>Really, if you want to insult
>me you're going to have
>to do better than a
>Ding Dong diss.

Man, what is WITH you people? First being transgendered is a bad thing, now eating Ding-Dongs is bad too? I enjoy eating Ding-Dongs. What do you have against Ding-Dongs?

And hey, what about that episode when Kaysar threatened Ivette? Showed his true colors, eh?

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42. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>I didn't miss that episode because
>he didn't threaten her.


BTW, I refer you to post #14. Are you going to call another poster a liar too?

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43. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
BTW, I refer you to post #14. Are you going to call another poster a liar too?

*sigh* One last time...Please go back and read ALL my posts in this thread. Not once did I call you, or anyone a liar. In fact, I don't think in my 3 years of posting on this site I have ever called another member a liar. Ever.

And I did go back and read post # 14. In that post LIVEURBESTLIFE said "Personally, I thought he was going to beat the crap out of her if the others hadn't intervened." That is an opinion. NOT fact. Disagreeing with someone's opinion is not calling them a liar.

You think Kaysar was threatening. LIVEURBESTLIFE thinks Kaysar was threatening.

I, and several other posters in this thread, do NOT think he was threatening. I haven't called anyone a liar. You seem to think I did. *shrug* I guess what we have here is a difference of opinion.

And now, since arguing with you isn't doing either of us any good, I am out of this thread.

Have fun shantheWOman.

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51. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Yes, we have a difference of opinion. How a man can tower over a woman, who is sitting, with his chest puffed out, fists clinched, peering down on her with slow, deliberate steps, getting closer and closer, while taking deep breaths, lips clinched while other men jump up to come between them to protect the sitting woman as anything BUT threatening is beyond me. Oh, well.
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131. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
"How a man can tower over a woman, who is sitting, with his chest puffed out, fists clinched, peering down on her with slow, deliberate steps, getting closer and closer, while taking deep breaths, lips clinched...

Every single bolded word there is a subjective opinion of how YOU viewed the event. Not everyone here saw it that way.

And most often, fists are "clenched" not clinched. Teeth are usually "clenched" as well. Lemme know if you need the Webster's definition for clarification. Just sayin' is all.

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14. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I remember that incident with Kaysar and Ivette. Personally, I thought he was going to beat the crap out of her if the others hadn't intervened. Kaysar is not perfect and he definitely has a temper which I saw on his season.

It's not right to make it seem like he is the representation of all Arab men. Or that all Arab men act like he does. But he isn't perfect and if Ivette felt threatened then I could see why.

There were several almost fights during that season. I think Kaysar got into it with Eric too. Didn't he?

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15. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Eric and Micheal were the two that almost got into it with each other. I think it was the same night because they had to seperate Ivette, Kaysar, Eric and Micheal in different corners of the house.

I don't think Kaysar's actions with Ivette are no more a good representation for Muslim men as they are for men in general. Could someone interpret his standing up and the look on his face as threatening? Sure, they could especially not knowing the guy. I think Kaysar's temper got away from him, no one is perfect and we are all very much guilty of it, but I really don't think he would have gone as far as hitting her. How many of us have stood up and gave a really stern look at a person we felt crossed the lines of respect with no intention of physically harming them? I have myself. Ivette was making many racial commentary about Kaysar that was not shown on t.v. and I believe that comment was yet another. So, I could understand the anger. Just because he stood up to her doesn't make her statement any more true than a weekly tabloid.

As far as the interview with his family, I didn't need to see it again myself. I watched last season and I already know the importance of Kaysar's religion and the effects it has for him in the game. But that's BB for you, always giving us a repeat.

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16. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I have no problem with Kaysar. If it was Ickvette that he stood up and walked away from then I am sure it was deserved. Ickvette was frequently saying how people shouldn't mess with her how she was so tough etc. Gag! Crappy is the one who was the hothead and was wanting to punch people out and if I recall didn't he throw something a few times? That being said I do believe they make alot more of Kaysar being Muslim and his nationality in general than they need to. James is at times seen reading his Bible but no one focuses on his Christianity and how he lies and manipulates.
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26. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>>...That being said I do believe they make a lot more of Kaysar being Muslim and his nationality in general than they need to.<<

I think CBS is attempting to make a sociological statement for the many areas of the country that don't have regular interactions with people who follow Islam.

My assessment, after having been fortunate to travel to a lot of places for many years is that people of every faith, nationality and ethnicity have pretty much the same % of exceptionally nice people, regular folks, and complete jerks +/- one standard deviation.

>>James is at times seen reading his Bible but no one focuses on his Christianity and how he lies and manipulates.<<

Am I mistaken or do they have more reading materials this year? I remember past houseguests reading the Bible with nothing else being permitted, but I thought I saw some other books this season. Or they were just personal dust jackets over the Bible.


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30. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
>>James is at times seen reading his Bible but no one focuses on his Christianity and how he lies and manipulates.<<


Yeah, the ability to READ makes one a Christian. That proves he's a Christian to me. Well, that and his shacking up out of wedlock.

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49. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
"James is at times seen reading his Bible but no one focuses on his Christianity and how he lies and manipulates..."

Not sure who posted that...but I wanted to just remind about last year when James put his hand on the bible and swore...that was replayed over and over and over, and chenbot asked him about it when he got evicted.

I think that the reason they bring up Kaysar's Muslim background is because he originally came to the house to break down some stereotypes. The Muslim religion is a lot different from the mainstream Christian religion and personally I think it's nice to see those differences and how devote he is that he will still make sure to meet his prayer times.


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101. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."

>My assessment, after having been fortunate
>to travel to a lot
>of places for many years
>is that people of every
>faith, nationality and ethnicity have
>pretty much the same %
>of exceptionally nice people, regular
>folks, and complete jerks +/-
>one standard deviation.


I'm really happy to see this. ......I've always beleived that "people are people"......wherever you go. Nationality and religion don't necesarily dictate personality.

I'm pretty sheltered travel wise so it's nice to see this post from someone who has traveled quite a bit.

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73. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
I don't know who is in charge of crapbaskets around here. I have other things to worry about.

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125. "RE: Kaysar's sister's comment... showing America what a REAL Arab man is like..."
Threatening? Pshaw. It's not like he held a knife to Ivette's
throat...

Oh wait. That actually happened. To Boogie's "former fiancee"
Krista in Season Two. The psycho who did the knife-play was
immediately kicked off the show, good riddance.

Kaysar, threatening? Hardly. And if standing in that allegedly
"violent" stance means I would haul off an strike someone, I'd
be guilty as charged. Except I've never acted on those thoughts.


Lori


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126. "Shan, I have better things to do!"
Now that I've got your attention, I'd like to direct your gaze to my subject text above. See that number next to it? That is the post # and helps indicate the order in which posts are made to the thread. That way we don't have to keep checking the date and time stamp in the upper right corner of each post to determing posting order.

Guess what. It also helps to identify specific quotes made by peeps, especially in monster threads like this. Now, according to some peeps here (specifically History Detective (HD, for short) and Syren) you have severely misquoted them several times. According to you, you have not. Well here's your chance to prove your innocense. Find the posts you claim they made where they attacked you or said they had better things to do or said you attacked Kayser's beliefs or whatever and post below this post the post number of those posts. That way, we can clear all this up by those involved (re)explaining themselves about what they were saying and were you possibly became confused.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,


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No hamsters were harmed in the making of this post.

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129. "Clarifycation"
In the above post, the term "peeps" DOES NOT refer to chicken-shaped marshmallow candy treats, but instead is a slang term referring to "people".

Thank you for your time.


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130. "Locking"
This forum is for discussing the show and its participants, not other posters here. We expect posters to keep their comments relevant and not get personal.

We also expect posters to alert the moderators when a guidelines has been violated AND WALK AWAY. Let the moderators handle it.

This thread is a classic example of how a thread can get out of hand when posters forget those guidelines. So I'm locking it and reminding everyone to read and follow our guidelines.

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