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"World Cup (women's)"
...oh, why not: let's make all of them Groups Of Death!

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: World Cup (women's) byoffer 06-29-11 1
   RE: World Cup (women's) Starshine 06-29-11 2
       RE: World Cup (women's) byoffer 06-29-11 3
           RE: World Cup (women's) Starshine 06-29-11 4
               RE: World Cup (women's) byoffer 06-30-11 5
 Oh, Canada... Estee 06-30-11 6
   RE: Oh, Canada... vince3 06-30-11 7
   That should be Zero Canada byoffer 06-30-11 8
 Wonder if any teams will copy this. Colonel Zoidberg 06-30-11 9
 Group B, Games 2 vince3 07-01-11 10
 Group C, Games 2 vince3 07-02-11 11
 Group D, Games 2 vince3 07-03-11 12
 Group B, Games 3 vince3 07-05-11 13
 Group A, Games 3 vince3 07-06-11 14
   re Canadian Team byoffer 07-06-11 15
       RE: re Canadian Team bullzeye 07-06-11 19
       RE: re Canadian Team Colonel Zoidberg 07-07-11 20
       RE: re Canadian Team aethelstan 07-07-11 21
 Group D, Games 3 vince3 07-06-11 16
 Group C, Games 3 vince3 07-06-11 17
 Quaterfinal schedule vince3 07-06-11 18
 Quarterfinals #1 vince3 07-09-11 22
 Quarterfinals #2 vince3 07-09-11 23
 Quarterfinals #3 vince3 07-10-11 24
 Quarterfinals #4 vince3 07-10-11 25
   RE: Quarterfinals #4 Estee 07-10-11 28
 Semifinal Matchups vince3 07-10-11 26
   RE: Semifinal Matchups Estee 07-10-11 27
       RE: Semifinal Matchups kidflash212 07-11-11 29
           RE: Semifinal Matchups Estee 07-11-11 30
       RE: Semifinal Matchups byoffer 07-11-11 31
 Semifinal #1 vince3 07-13-11 32
 Semifinal #2 vince3 07-13-11 33
   RE: Semifinal #2 Estee 07-13-11 34
       RE: Semifinal #2 vince3 07-13-11 35
 3rd place game vince3 07-16-11 36
 World Cup Final Game vince3 07-17-11 37
   Halftime vince3 07-17-11 38
       End of Regulation vince3 07-17-11 39
           End of Extra Time vince3 07-17-11 40
               RE: End of Extra Time Starshine 07-17-11 41
               RE: End of Extra Time Max Headroom 07-18-11 42
                   RE: End of Extra Time PepeLePew13 07-18-11 43
                   RE: End of Extra Time Starshine 07-18-11 44
                       RE: End of Extra Time dabo 07-18-11 45
                       RE: End of Extra Time byoffer 07-18-11 46
                   RE: End of Extra Time michel 07-18-11 47

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1. "RE: World Cup (women's)"
I don't know about Groups of Death, but it has turned into a horrow flick for the Canadian team star:

http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer/article/1016229--kelly-sinclair-s-status-for-canada-s-big-match-in-doubt

It would be crushing to her (and the Canadian team) if she can't play in the next game. But if she can play, I bet she serves us the French with some fava beans and nice chianti...


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2. "RE: World Cup (women's)"
LAST EDITED ON 06-29-11 AT 11:18 AM (EST)

While her teammates scrimmaged, Sinclair retreated to an adjacent field and rode a bicycle.

Bwahahaha some football journalist knows nothing about the sport!

Mind you England only have 4 Arsenal players, and even though Faye White is one of them I don't hold out much hope, qualification from the group and then defeat.

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3. "RE: World Cup (women's)"
What is the misunderstanding about the sport? The way I read the article, despite the face-mask her nose is still too painful for her to run. So all she could do was ride a stationary bike (are you bristling at the lack of the word "stationary"?). And they are not sure how her nose will be less painful tomorrow when she will want to do more than run against France.


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4. "RE: World Cup (women's)"
The misunderstanding was only the word scrimmage not used in association football.

I'm very lucky I haven't had a broken nose, however I can imagine that it would be very painful, I'm not sure what the rules on anaesthesia are at the moment however they may be willing to do that for her in order for her to play.

Masks in Football (mostly for broken cheekbones though)

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5. "RE: World Cup (women's)"
Maybe it is a Canadian thing. Here we seem to use the word "scrimmage" to mean "practice".

That meaning is sort of covered here:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scrimmage

Some scary masks!


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6. "Oh, Canada..."
4=1?

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7. "RE: Oh, Canada..."
Almost as bad as Germany beating Nigeria only 1-0, when last year they crushed them 8-0...

Both Nigeria and Canada are eliminated and play each other next game...

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8. "That should be Zero Canada"
as in 4-0 for France over Canada.

Regardless, a loss is a loss at that point.


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9. "Wonder if any teams will copy this."
http://www.yardbarker.com/soccer/articles/msn/russian_womens_soccer_team_to_play_in_bikinis_to_sell_tickets/5317984?GT1=39002
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10. "Group B, Games 2"
Japan 4, Mexico 0
England 2, New Zealand 1

Japan's guaranteed to advance, England's in pretty good shape to advance...

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11. "Group C, Games 2"
Sweden 1, North Korea 0
USA 3, Colombia 0

Both Sweden and USA advance, will play each other Wednesday for the Group win, USA has goal differential advantage +5 vs. +2...


Also, USA's record in Group play is now 12-0-2.

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12. "Group D, Games 2"
Australia 3, Equatorial Guinea 2

Brazil 3, Norway 0

This turned out to be the only group in which the game 1 winners faced each other in game 2...

Brazil's advanced.

Norway will face Australia on Wednesday for the right to advance... Australia leads the goal differential 0 vs. -2

Equatorial Guinea's eliminated.


Games 3 will be on Tuesday/Wednesday.

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13. "Group B, Games 3"
England 2, Japan 0

New Zealand 2, Mexico 2


England wins the group, Japan 2nd...

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14. "Group A, Games 3"
Nigeria 1, Canada 0... The host of the next World Cup goes 0-3...

Germany 4, France 2... Germany wins the group, France 2nd.

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15. "re Canadian Team"
After being so close against the Germans, the wheels really fell off the Canadian team against France and then they were toast. Certainly a lot of scrutiny will be on the coach, who seems to have had a rough time with Soccer Canada.

I hope they can get at least a couple of wheels back on before the Olympics, and work towards a competitive team for the next World Cup. 4 years is a long time. Will Sinclair still be playing?



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19. "RE: re Canadian Team"
Very frustrating. They played very well against a higher ranked German team but lost to lower ranked teams in France and Nigeria. Mewonders how the rankings are established sometimes....
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20. "RE: re Canadian Team"
If I'm not mistaken, the new Paul the Octopus picked Canada to win it all.

I'm guessing he'll be featured at a calamari restaurant near us sometime soon.

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21. "RE: re Canadian Team"
I think the injury to Sinclair was in the back of their minds the whole time making them tentative and unsure whether they could play their usual game. If you look at the first half against France, they were tentative with their passes, never forced the play, never really kept possession of the ball.

I don't think it's fair to blame the coach. We did after all win the Cyprus Cup and there were 4 or 5 other world cup teams there including England. We also won the Concacaf qualifier for the first time ever (though we didn't have to play the US).

I think the fact of the matter is that with Sinclair at 100% were a top 8 team in the world but without her, we are closer to 20.

I, too, hope that this will serve as motivation for the Olympics and that we can perform well there.

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16. "Group D, Games 3"
Brazil 3, Equatorial Guinea 0
Australia 2, Norway 1

Brazil wins the group, Australia 2nd...

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17. "Group C, Games 3"
Sweden 2, USA 1
North Korea 0, Colombia 0

Sweden wins the group, USA gets 2nd...

The USA unbeaten streak is actually stopped at 17 for Group play: 15-1-2 is now their record in Groups...

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18. "Quaterfinal schedule"
England vs. France: 12:00 noon Saturday
Germany vs. Japan: 2:45pm Saturday
Sweden vs. Australia: 7:00am Sunday
Brazil vs. USA: 11:30am Sunday
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22. "Quarterfinals #1"
France beats England, 4-3 in Penalty Kicks after they tied in Regulation and Extra Time at 1 each.
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23. "Quarterfinals #2"
Japan 1, Germany 0... Japan scores in Extra Time to upset the 2-time defending champs!
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24. "Quarterfinals #3"
Sweden 3, Australia 1. They'll face Japan on Wednesday.
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25. "Quarterfinals #4"
LAST EDITED ON 07-10-11 AT 02:14 PM (EST)

USA beats Brazil 5-3 in Penalty Kicks, after Regulation was tied at 1 each, and Extra Time at 2 each.

The first goal of the game was less than 2 minutes in, when Brazil scored an Own Goal...

Brazil's first goal came with major controversy as first there was a Red Card penalty with Penalty Kick against the US, putting them down to 10. On the Penalty Kick, it was saved, but that was called back... and Brazil's Marta scored on the re-try.

Regulation time then ended.

Brazil's second goal also had a couple of controversies: A Brazil player was apparently offside, and it wasn't called... as well as the ball might have gone over the end line before it was passed to Marta who scored the goal.

The 2nd US goal came in the 2nd Stoppage Time minute of the final half of Extra Time. Most of that Stoppage Time in all likelihood came from a couple of Brazil players taking their sweet time getting up from a cramp. The most egregious of which was a player was stretchered off of the field of play, and once she was off the field, got up off of the stretcher and started sprinting around... (she did get a Yellow Card for that when she returned to the field, though...)

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28. "RE: Quarterfinals #4"
The most egregious of which was a player was stretchered off of the field of play, and once she was off the field, got up off of the stretcher and started sprinting around... (she did get a Yellow Card for that when she returned to the field, though...)

And then Karma gave her a red card slightly larger than the stadium. Live by the fake injury, die by the fake injury -- and this time, make it just about literal. (Or, given the reactions to major losses in South America, let's not. No more soccer players killed by disgruntled fans, please.)

But at least she gets to pick up her Best Supporting Actress award. From the U.S. team.

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26. "Semifinal Matchups"
LAST EDITED ON 07-10-11 AT 02:17 PM (EST)

USA vs. France: Wednesday, 11:30am

Sweden vs. Japan: Wednesday, 2:15pm

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27. "RE: Semifinal Matchups"
Oh boy. As if France didn't hate us enough already...

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29. "RE: Semifinal Matchups"
It's that whole drag-the-leading-presidential-candidate-off-a-plane-and-arrest-him thing isn't?
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30. "RE: Semifinal Matchups"
You'd think they would have at least gotten a laugh out of the headlines.
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31. "RE: Semifinal Matchups"
Maybe the French team should watch this in preparation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr9qX9k1Y98&NR=1

Winners like... North Vietnam??

Do you suppose the US could have won North Vietnam on penalty kicks??


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32. "Semifinal #1"
USA 3, France 1
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33. "Semifinal #2"
Japan 3, Sweden 1

USA will face Japan on Sunday for the World Cup.

France will face Sweden on Saturday for 3rd place.

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34. "RE: Semifinal #2"
*braces against the reappearance of The Horn From Hell*
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35. "RE: Semifinal #2"
I think that was mainly a South African thing, but... who knows?
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36. "3rd place game"
Sweden 2, France 1


Ironic that the only team to beat the US in the tourney so far ended up with a lower finish, isn't it? Such is the craziness of the knockout stages...

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37. "World Cup Final Game"
Starting in an hour: 2:30pm... or so.

USA, the number 1 ranked team in the world, who also was the last team to qualify for the tournament. Which needed a miracle and a half against Brazil after losing their final group play game to Sweden. Who then had more dramatics in the Semi-Final against France, with another header by Abby Wambaugh, who also scored the miracle/tying goal against Brazil...

vs.

Japan, the obvious sentimental favorite of the tournament. Mainly due to the devastation that happened 5 months ago with the earthquake/tsunami disaster. A disaster that deeply affected the team, what with losing friends, relatives, practice facilities, and jobs from the original devastation and then the nuclear reactor meltdown to boot.

Let's play.

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38. "Halftime"
Scoreless tie so far. No stoppage time in first half.

US had a number of opportunities in the first half, only to see the shots blocked, saved, gone wide, and even one off of the crossbar... Japan's had a couple of chances of their own, but no luck for them either...


Good game

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39. "End of Regulation"
US scored in the 69th minute, Japan countered back in the 81st minute...

Tied at 1, two 15-minute halves of Extra Time now upon us...


Crazy, isn't it?

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40. "End of Extra Time"
Score tied at 2 each after Extra Time. US again scores first in the periods, but again Japan comes back to tie it.

Japan wins 3-1 in Penalty Kicks.

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41. "RE: End of Extra Time"
Welcome to my world

Once Scotland are out I follow England who generally go out on a penalty shootout

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42. "RE: End of Extra Time"
Baseball has extra innings if the game is tied after nine innings. Basketball has overtime periods which continue until a team is ahead at the end of a period. During the playoffs, the NFL plays overtime quarters until a team is ahead. Likewise, for the playoffs the NHL dumps the regular season shootout-after-OT method of breaking ties, replacing it with having the teams continue to play full periods until a team scores.

So why is soccer different?

Rules like this are idiotic. What next-- does baseball start having a homerun derby if the game is tied after nine innings? Does basketball have a free throw shooting contest to break a tie game? Soccer is the ultimate team sport, and the final outcome of a tied game should be decided by the full team, not a small number of hand-picked players and the teams' goalies.

Please note, this is not sour grapes over the outcome of the game; Japan is a worthy winner.

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43. "RE: End of Extra Time"
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Problem with that is that it could take *days* to finally settle a winner - soccer is low-scoring and 0-0 games are common. Agree with you that a shootout/penalties isn't the ideal way to solve a championship, but soccer, more than any other sport, has the very real possibility of stretching out into the next week one single game and there's all the running the players have to do.

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44. "RE: End of Extra Time"
Football also has extra time, normally this is another 30 minutes however my brain is telling me that this was extended for the World Cup. In fact both teams scored during this extra time.

Even if not that means that these ladies have been running around for two hours, no changing of teams like American Football, no sitting out whilst the other team bats. Frankly the players are normally exhausted by the end of normal time, playing for longer doesn't make a great game.

In the past there was a system called the "Golden Goal" where play would continue for the 30 minutes or until one team scored, unfortunately instead of making the game more exciting teams went Catenaccio.

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45. "RE: End of Extra Time"
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And then there's Cricket which lasts until the white smoke announces the conclave has reached a decision. Could be worse, American presidential elections never end.

Anyway, congrats Japan.

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46. "RE: End of Extra Time"
In the past there was a system called the "Golden Goal" where play would continue for the 30 minutes or until one team scored, unfortunately instead of making the game more exciting teams went Catenaccio.

I wondered why they stopped using the Golden Goal. In hockey they basically use a Golden Goal, so that system seems fair to me. I agree that sometimes games get very long (and they level of play can go down) but at least it is still the game they are playing.


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47. "RE: End of Extra Time"
Considering it's the number 1 sport in the world, I don't think soccer needs to follow what goes on in North America.


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