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"March Madness: Pick 8"
Here is a March Madness game that Gothmog began a few years ago which I always enjoy. So, with his permission (hopefully), I'm starting it again this year. As usual, I've cut & pasted his instructions:

Here's a different kind of NCAA pool. It seems fairly simple, yet I've never managed to finish higher than 5th, and I usually lose to 8 yr olds picking at random, or people picking by cities they've visited, favorite colors, or teams with "Wildcat" mascots, or some such.

Here are the rules:
1. Each team in the tournament is assigned a point value, based on their seed. (See below).
2. Before the first game on Thursday (the play-in game doesn't count), you must pick 8 teams. You may pick any 8 that you like, regardless of where they appear in the bracket (although it's wisest to pick teams that won't meet each other right away).
3. For every team that you pick, they get their pre-assigned point value each time they win. Once the team loses, they can no longer get any points.
4. You cannot change teams or edit your picks after the start of the first game on Thursday
5. The winner is the person with the most total points. If there is a tie, then the tiebreaker is total number of points that will be scored by both teams in the CHAMPIONSHIP game (closest wins).

Strategy hints:
Like I said, I can't seem to figure this game out, but here's what I've observed: The winner of this usually has around 40-50 points, so you want teams that will get you about 6-8 points each. If you can pick a lower seed to win a couple of games, that's worth more points than a #1 seed that will win it all. I usually try to pick teams that are spread out among the brackets, but there have been occasions where the top 3 point-getters are all from the same region. The winners of this pool seem to be the ones who pick the mid-range seeds that go far, but I've tried that strategy and ended up with only 2 live teams by the end of the first weekend. So if you have a better idea, by all means go for it.

Here are how the points are assigned:
Seed....Point value per win
1............1
2-3.........2
4-5.........3
6-8.........4
9-11.......5
12-13......6
14-15......7
16..........8

If you'd like to play, then sometime before Thursday, post your 8 teams and the total number of points you think will be scored by both teams in the championship game (to be used as a tie-breaker).

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Previous winners aethelstan 03-13-11 1
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 Max Headroom 03-14-11 2
   RE: March Madness: Pick 8 Max Headroom 03-14-11 6
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 emydi 03-14-11 3
   RE: March Madness: Pick 8 emydi 03-15-11 10
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 Snidget 03-14-11 4
   Tie Breaker Snidget 03-14-11 5
       RE: Tie Breaker emydi 03-16-11 14
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 michel 03-14-11 7
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 Starshine 03-15-11 8
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 samboohoo 03-15-11 9
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 mrc 03-15-11 11
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 vince3 03-15-11 12
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 Yogi 03-15-11 13
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 AyaK 03-16-11 15
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 ARnutz 03-16-11 16
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 aethelstan 03-16-11 17
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 CTgirl 03-16-11 18
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 Gothmog 03-17-11 19
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 zazzy 03-17-11 20
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 aethelstan 03-17-11 21
   RE: March Madness: Pick 8 emydi 03-18-11 23
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 aethelstan 03-18-11 22
 First* Round results aethelstan 03-19-11 24
   RE: First* Round results vince3 03-19-11 25
 Standings after the first weekend aethelstan 03-21-11 26
   RE: Standings after the first weeke... Max Headroom 03-21-11 27
   RE: Standings after the first weeke... Gothmog 03-22-11 28
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 aethelstan 03-26-11 29
   RE: March Madness: Pick 8 vince3 03-27-11 30
   RE: March Madness: Pick 8 Max Headroom 03-28-11 31
 Current standings aethelstan 03-28-11 32
   RE: Current standings Gothmog 04-02-11 33
   RE: Current standings michel 04-03-11 34
 RE: March Madness: Pick 8 aethelstan 04-04-11 35
   RE: March Madness: Pick 8 Snidget 04-04-11 36
   RE: March Madness: Pick 8 ARnutz 04-04-11 37
 And the winner is...... aethelstan 04-05-11 38
   RE: And the winner is...... CTgirl 04-05-11 39
   RE: And the winner is...... Gothmog 04-09-11 40

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03-13-11, 11:15 PM (EST)
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1. "Previous winners"
Past winners:

2010: Max (49), Emydi, Pepe
2009: Yogi (46), Emydi, Bacon (top 4 within 4 points!)
2008: minitroll (44), aethelstan, bebo
(couldn't find anything for '06 and '07. maybe we didn't do it)
2005: minitroll (47), Gothmog (47), aethelstan, seahorse, Bebo, sittem (all 46)!

I don't have the results for previous years.

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2. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
Since I'll be on the road the next couple of days, I'm entering my teams now so I don't forget. Win or lose, this is always a fun game to play.

2 Florida
2 North Carolina
3 Connecticut (sorry, CTgirl)
3 Purdue
5 Arizona
5 Kansas St
6 Xavier
11 Gonzaga

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6. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
Tie breaker: 145
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3. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
1 Ohio State
2 Notre Dame
3 Syracuse
3 UConn
4 Louisville
5 Arizona
10 Michigan State
13 Belmont
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10. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
tie breaker 139
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4. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
Oh what the heck, someone has to bring up the rear, right?

2 UNC
3 Syracuse
3 BYU
4 Kentucky
5 KSU
6 Georgetown
7 Texas A&M
12 Clemson

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5. "Tie Breaker"
130 points

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14. "RE: Tie Breaker"
congrats, you already got 6 pts
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7. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
3. Purdue
4. Kentucky
4. Wisconsin
4. Texas
5 Vanderbilt
6. St John's
11. Marquette
11. Missouri

Tie-breaker= 90


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8. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
2 Notre Dame
2 Florida
3 Connecticut
4 Texas
4 Wisconsin
5 West Virginia
6 Xavier
6 Georgetown


128 points

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9. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
1. Duke
2. Georgia
3. Penn State
4. Purdue
5. Michigan
6. Texas A&M
7. Utah State
8. Texas


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11. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
3. Syracuse
3. Connecticut
4. Louisville
5. West Virginia
6. St. John's
7. Temple
9. Old Dominion
13. Oakland

Tie-breaker: 148 pts.

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12. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
I'm gonna try an all Big East crew:

5 West Virginia
3 Syracuse
3 UConn
6 Georgetown
2 Notre Dame
1 Pittsburgh
6 St. John's
9 Villanova

*phew* That wasn't easy since there are chances they'll face each other in 3rd and 4th round matchups (if you go by their terms, that is... 2nd or 3rd as we're used to it...)

Tiebreaker: 125

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13. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
Thanks for running the game again Stan!

11 Gonzaga
11 Missouri
10 Florida St
8 George Mason
4 Louisville
4 Kentucky
3 Syracuse
3 Purdue

Tiebreaker - 146



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15. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
LAST EDITED ON 03-16-11 AT 12:21 PM (EST)

11 Missouri
3 Purdue
7 Washington
8 Butler
4 Wisconsin
11 Gonzaga
1 Ohio State
4 Texas

Edited to add tiebreaker: 137.

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16. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
Syracuse
Kentucky
Tennessee
Missouri
Georgetown
Texas A&M
Old Dominion
Michigan St.

Tiebreaker: 144

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17. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
LAST EDITED ON 03-16-11 AT 02:20 PM (EST)

I feel so far behind because I was traveling Monday. I'd better get this in before it's too late.

Notre Dame 2
Kentucky 4
Texas 4
Georgetown 6
Xavier 6
Michigan State 10
Utah State 12
Richmond 12

forgot my own tiebreaker! 152

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18. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
LAST EDITED ON 03-16-11 AT 04:28 PM (EST)

Thanks for running this again. I love tihs game (even though I don't know anything about basketball in the western half of the U.S!) DS is home on break so I consulted with him.

West Virginia, UNC, Arizona, UConn, Kansas, Purdue, Butler, Florida

ETA: tiebereaker - 125 points

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19. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
I had stopped entering this pool at work--with almost 200 entries every year, it's hard to finish in the money, and the winner always seems to be someone who picks teams seemingly at random. But I'll make a go this year. These are my picks:

BYU
Wisconsin
Texas
West Virginia
Vanderbilt
Xavier
Texas A&M
Missouri

Tie Breaker: 115


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20. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
Memphis
Georgetown
Kansas State
St. Johns
Louisville
Kentucky
Penn State
St. Peters

Tie breaker: 131

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03-17-11, 04:35 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
Zazzy gets in under the wire giving us 15 entries.

All seeds 13 and higher, as well as one 14 seed, were selected with the exception of 8: San Diego State (2), Cincinnati (6), UCLA (7), UNLV (8), Illinois (9), VCU (11), Moorehead State (13) and Princeton (13).
I'll monitor how this 'entry' fares as well


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23. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
stan, I meant to pick 13 Morehead not Belmont...didn't you get my memo?

you know what they say you can't go wrong with Morehead

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22. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
LAST EDITED ON 03-18-11 AT 10:04 AM (EST)

I knew I would regret picking the Aggies. In almost all my brackets I not only have KSU winning, but going a few rounds (even final four). Unfortunately, I filled this pool out first and didn't want to do a last minute edit. Bet you it haunts me the whole tourney.

Anyhow, after the first day, here are the standings. It's a bit silly as only 2 of samboohoo's teams even played yesterday but whatever.

The unchosen 8 would be winning right now:
Unchosen 8: . . . . Moorehead St 6 Cincinnati 4 UCLA 4 San Diego St 2 UNLV 0 Illinois 0 VCU 0 Princeton 0 ...Total: 16


Name, Teams, Score

Ayak: . . . . Gonzaga (5), Butler (4), Wisconsin (3), Texas (0), Washington (0), Purdue (0), Ohio St (0), Missouri (0), ...Total: 12
Max: . . . . Gonzaga (5), Kansas St (3), Florida (2), Connecticut (2), UNC (0), Purdue (0), Arizona (0), Xavier (0), ...Total: 12
CT girl: . . . . Butler (4), WVU (3), Florida (2), Connecticut (2), Kansas (0), Purdue (0), Arizona (0), UNC (0), ...Total: 11
Starshine: . . . . Wisconsin (3), WVU (3), Florida (2), Connecticut (2), Notre Dame (0), Texas (0), Xavier (0), Georgetown (0), ...Total: 10
Aethelstan: . . . . Richmond (6), Kentucky (3), Notre Dame (0), Xavier (0), Texas (0), Georgetown (0), Utah St (0), Michigan St (0), ...Total: 9
MRC: . . . . Temple (4), WVU (3), Connecticut (2), Syracuse (0), St. John's (0), Oakland (0), ODU (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 9
Gothmog: . . . . WVU (3), Wisconsin (3), BYU (2), Xavier (0), Texas (0), Texas A&M (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 8
Snidget: . . . . Kansas St (3), Kentucky (3), BYU (2), Syracuse (0), Texas A&M (0), UNC (0), Georgetown (0), Clemson (0), ...Total: 8
Yogi: . . . . Gonzaga (5), Kentucky (3), Purdue (0), Syracuse (0), Florida St (0), George Mason (0), Missouri (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 8
Michel: . . . . Wisconsin (3), Kentucky (3), Purdue (0), Texas (0), Marquette (0), St. John's (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 6
Vince: . . . . WVU (3), Connecticut (2), Pittsburgh (1), Syracuse (0), Notre Dame (0), Villanova (0), Georgetown (0), St. John's (0), ...Total: 6
zazzy: . . . . Kentucky (3), Kansas St (3), Georgetown (0), St. Peter's (0), Memphis (0), St. John's (0), Louisville (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 6
Arnutz: . . . . Kentucky (3), Syracuse (0), Georgetown (0), Texas A&M (0), Michigan St (0), Tennessee (0), Missouri (0), ODU (0), ...Total: 3
Emydi: . . . . Connecticut (2), Ohio St (0), Notre Dame (0), Syracuse (0), Arizona (0), Michigan St (0), Belmont (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 2
Samboohoo: . . . . Duke (0), Georgia (0), Purdue (0), Michigan (0), Texas A&M (0), Texas (0), Utah St (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 0

By conference:

A-10: . . . . Richmond 6 Temple 4 Xavier 0 ...Total: 10
Big East: . . . . Cincinnati 4 WVU 3 Connecticut 2 Syracuse 0 Pittsburgh 1 Villanova 0 Notre Dame 0 Georgetown 0 Marquette 0 St. John's 0 Louisville 0 ...Total: 10
SEC: . . . . Kentucky 3 Florida 2 Tennessee 0 Georgia 0 Vanderbilt 0 ...Total: 5
MWC: . . . . BYU 2 San Diego St 2 UNLV 0 ...Total: 4
Pac 10: . . . . UCLA 4 Arizona 0 Washington 0 USC 0 ...Total: 4
Big 10: . . . . Wisconsin 3 Purdue 0 Ohio St 0 Michigan 0 Illinois 0 Penn St 0 Michigan St 0 ...Total: 3
Big 12: . . . . Kansas St 3 Texas 0 Kansas 0 Texas A&M 0 Missouri 0 ...Total: 3
ACC: . . . . Duke 0 UNC 0 Florida St 0 Clemson 0 ...Total: 0
CAA: . . . . George Mason 0 VCU 0 ODU 0 ...Total: 0

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03-19-11, 10:51 AM (EST)
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24. "First* Round results"
Congrats to CT girl for having all her 8 teams win in the first* round.

Georgetown hurt a lot of entries, including most of my brackets as I bought into the Chris Wright hype. Silly me.

Again, the unchosen 8 would be leading.

Unchosen 8: . . . . Moorehead St (6), VCU (5), Illinois (5), Cincinnati (4), UCLA (4), San Diego St (2), UNLV (0), Princeton (0), ...Total: 26

Ayak: . . . . Gonzaga (5), Butler (4), Wisconsin (3), Texas (3), Washington (4), Purdue (2), Ohio St (1), Missouri (0), ...Total: 22
Yogi: . . . . Gonzaga (5), Florida St (5), George Mason (4), Kentucky (3), Purdue (2), Syracuse (2), Missouri (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 21
CT girl: . . . . Butler (4), WVU (3), Arizona (3), Florida (2), Connecticut (2), Purdue (2), UNC (2), Kansas (1), ...Total: 19
Max: . . . . Gonzaga (5), Kansas St (3), Arizona (3), Florida (2), Connecticut (2), UNC (2), Purdue (2), Xavier (0), ...Total: 19
Michel: . . . . Wisconsin (3), Kentucky (3), Texas (3), Purdue (2), Marquette (5), St. John's (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 16
Starshine: . . . . Wisconsin (3), WVU (3), Texas (3), Florida (2), Connecticut (2), Notre Dame (2), Georgetown (0), Xavier (0), ...Total: 15
Aethelstan: . . . . Richmond (6), Kentucky (3), Texas (3), Notre Dame (2), Georgetown (0), Xavier (0), Utah St (0), Michigan St (0), ...Total: 14
Snidget: . . . . Kansas St (3), Kentucky (3), BYU (2), Syracuse (2), UNC (2), Georgetown (0), Texas A&M (0), Clemson (0), ...Total: 12
Gothmog: . . . . WVU (3), Wisconsin (3), Texas (3), BYU (2), Xavier (0), Texas A&M (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 11
MRC: . . . . Temple (4), WVU (3), Connecticut (2), Syracuse (2), St. John's (0), Oakland (0), ODU (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 11
Emydi: . . . . Arizona (3), Connecticut (2), Notre Dame (2), Ohio St (1), Syracuse (2), Michigan St (0), Belmont (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 10
Samboohoo: . . . . Michigan (4), Texas (3), Purdue (2), Duke (1), Georgia (0), Texas A&M (0), Utah St (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 10
Vince: . . . . WVU (3), Connecticut (2), Syracuse (2), Notre Dame (2), Pittsburgh (1), Georgetown (0), Villanova (0), St. John's (0), ...Total: 10
zazzy: . . . . Kentucky (3), Kansas St (3), Georgetown (0), St. Peter's (0), Memphis (0), St. John's (0), Louisville (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 6
Arnutz: . . . . Kentucky (3), Syracuse (2), Georgetown (0), Texas A&M (0), Michigan St (0), Tennessee (0), Missouri (0), ODU (0), ...Total: 5

Big East: . . . . Marquette (5), Cincinnati (4), WVU (3), Connecticut (2), Notre Dame (2), Syracuse (2), Pittsburgh (1), Georgetown (0), Villanova (0), St. John's (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 19
Pac 10: . . . . UCLA (4), Arizona (3), Washington (4), USC (0), ...Total: 16
Big 10: . . . . Illinois (5), Michigan (4), Wisconsin (3), Purdue (2), Ohio St (1), Penn St (0), Michigan St (0), ...Total: 15
A-10: . . . . Richmond (6), Temple (4), Xavier (0), ...Total: 10
CAA: . . . . VCU (5), George Mason (4), ODU (0), ...Total: 9
ACC: . . . . Florida St (5), UNC (2), Duke (1), Clemson (0), ...Total: 8
Big 12: . . . . Kansas St (3), Texas (3), Kansas (1), Texas A&M (0), Missouri (0), ...Total: 7
SEC: . . . . Kentucky (3), Florida (2), Georgia (0), Tennessee (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 5
MWC: . . . . BYU (2), San Diego St (2), UNLV (0), ...Total: 4

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25. "RE: First* Round results"
Just goes to show that I had the right idea with my entry, just poor execution with it...
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26. "Standings after the first weekend"
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A nice set of upsets this year. Even in the NIT, 2 of the top seeds are gone.

Hard to decide which conference is doing the best. The ACC have the most wins but they had a #1 and a #2. The mid-majors are doing well, too.

The unchosen 8 are still going strong but only tied for the lead now. CTgirl still has 6 teams left alive.

Unchosen 8: . . . . VCU (10), San Diego St (4), Illinois (5), Moorehead St (6), Cincinnati (4), UCLA (4), UNLV (0), Princeton (0), ...Total: 33

CT girl: . . . . Butler (8), Arizona (6), Florida (4), Connecticut (4), UNC (4), Kansas (2), WVU (3), Purdue (2), ...Total: 33
Ayak: . . . . Butler (8), Wisconsin (6), Ohio St (2), Washington (4),Texas (3), Purdue (2), Gonzaga (5), Missouri (0), ...Total: 30
Yogi: . . . . Florida St (10), Kentucky (6), George Mason (4), Purdue (2), Syracuse (2), Gonzaga (5), Missouri (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 29
Max: . . . . Arizona (6), Florida (4), Connecticut (4), UNC (4), Purdue (2), Gonzaga (5), Kansas St (3), Xavier (0), ...Total: 28
Michel: . . . . Marquette (10), Wisconsin (6), Kentucky (6), Texas (3), Purdue (2), St. John's (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 27
Aethelstan: . . . . Richmond (12), Kentucky (6), Notre Dame (2), Texas (3), Georgetown (0), Xavier (0), Utah St (0), Michigan St (0), ...Total: 23
Starshine: . . . . Wisconsin (6), Florida (4), Connecticut (4), Notre Dame (2), Texas (3), WVU (3), Georgetown (0), Xavier (0), ...Total: 22
Snidget: . . . . Kentucky (6), BYU (4), UNC (4), Syracuse (2), Kansas St (3), Georgetown (0), Texas A&M (0), Clemson (0), ...Total: 19
Emydi: . . . . Arizona (6), Connecticut (4), Ohio St (2), Notre Dame (2), Syracuse (2), Michigan St (0), Belmont (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 16
Gothmog: . . . . Wisconsin (6), BYU (4), Texas (3), WVU (3), Xavier (0), Texas A&M (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 16
MRC: . . . . Connecticut (4), Syracuse (2), Temple (4), WVU (3), St. John's (0), Oakland (0), ODU (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 13
Vince: . . . . Connecticut (4), Syracuse (2), Notre Dame (2), WVU (3), Pittsburgh (1), Georgetown (0), Villanova (0), St. John's (0), ...Total: 12
Samboohoo: . . . . Duke (2), Michigan (4), Texas (3), Purdue (2), Georgia (0), Texas A&M (0), Utah St (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 11
zazzy: . . . . Kentucky (6), Kansas St (3), Georgetown (0), St. Peter's (0), Memphis (0), St. John's (0), Louisville (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 9
Arnutz: . . . . Kentucky (6), Syracuse (2), Georgetown (0), Texas A&M (0), Michigan St (0), Tennessee (0), Missouri (0), ODU (0), ...Total: 8

Big East: . . . . Marquette (10), Connecticut (4), Notre Dame (2), Syracuse (2), Cincinnati (4), WVU (3), Pittsburgh (1), Georgetown (0), Villanova (0), St. John's (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 26
Pac 10: . . . . Arizona (6), Washington (4), UCLA (4), USC (0), ...Total: 24
Big 10: . . . . Wisconsin (6), Ohio St (2), Illinois (5), Michigan (4), Purdue (2), Penn St (0), Michigan St (0), ...Total: 19
ACC: . . . . Florida St (10), UNC (4), Duke (2), Clemson (0), ...Total: 16
A-10: . . . . Richmond (12), Temple (4), Xavier (0), 0 ...Total: 16
CAA: . . . . VCU (10), George Mason (4), ODU (0), ...Total: 14
SEC: . . . . Kentucky (6), Florida (4), Georgia (0), Tennessee (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 10
Big 12: . . . . Kansas (2), Texas (3), Kansas St (3), Texas A&M (0), Missouri (0), ...Total: 8
MWC: . . . . BYU (4), San Diego St (4), UNLV (0), ...Total: 8

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27. "RE: Standings after the first weekend"
I'm toast, CTgirl has the same teams left that I do (plus two more) and she's ahead of me in the standings. There won't be a repeat champion in this pool this year.

Too bad she didn't pick Bucknell.

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28. "RE: Standings after the first weekend"
Just for comparison, out of the 107 entries in my work pool, The leader has 40 points, and in 2nd place are several tied with 37. The leader here (33 points) would be tied for 15th place there. I haven't seen yet what teams the leader picked, but (s)he has 6 teams still active. (The spreadsheet that gives us updates just says how many teams are active, not what they are.)

I'm holding down 84th place. It was a bad year to pick the 3-7 seeds, as evidenced by the number of double digit seeds that sneaked through (as many as the past two years combined). I'm kicking myself for not picking Butler, as I instinctively thought about at first. Usually the 8th seed is a bad pick--tough first round game, and not worth as much as a 9 seed (which has won the 8-9 match more often anyway), and very unlikely to win 2 games (less likely than a 10-12 seed). Plus, being a Valpo fan (same conference as Butler), I knew this was a down year for Butler after last year's success, especially since Hayward moved on. Hard to imagine the team that lost to Youngstown St. having any success in this tournament.

So much for conventional wisdom. Two wins in the final .8 seconds have rewarded those who took the risk, and they have a very beatable Wisconsin team up next.


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29. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
We almost had 8 teams from 8 different leagues. Silly Buckeyes.

CT girl is running away with it with 6 teams left.

Unchosen 8: . . . . VCU (15), San Diego St (4), Illinois (5), Moorehead St (6), Cincinnati (4), UCLA (4), UNLV (0), Princeton (0), ...Total: 38

CT girl: . . . . Butler (12), Arizona (9), Florida (6), Connecticut (6), UNC (6), Kansas (3), WVU (3), Purdue (2), ...Total: 47
Max: . . . . Arizona (9), Florida (6), Connecticut (6), UNC (6), Gonzaga (5), Kansas St (3), Purdue (2), Xavier (0), ...Total: 37
Ayak: . . . . Butler (12), Ohio St (2), Wisconsin (6), Gonzaga (5), Washington (4), Texas (3), Purdue (2), Missouri (0), ...Total: 34
Yogi: . . . . Kentucky (9), Florida St (10), Gonzaga (5), George Mason (4), Purdue (2), Syracuse (2), Missouri (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 32
Michel: . . . . Kentucky (9), Marquette (10), Wisconsin (6), Texas (3), Purdue (2), St. John's (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 30
Aethelstan: . . . . Kentucky (9), Richmond (12), Notre Dame (2), Texas (3), Georgetown (0), Xavier (0), Utah St (0), Michigan St (0), ...Total: 26
Starshine: . . . . Florida (6), Connecticut (6), Wisconsin (6), Texas (3), WVU (3), Notre Dame (2), Georgetown (0), Xavier (0), ...Total: 26
Snidget: . . . . Kentucky (9), UNC (6), BYU (4), Kansas St (3), Syracuse (2), Georgetown (0), Texas A&M (0), Clemson (0), ...Total: 24
Emydi: . . . . Arizona (9), Connecticut (6), Ohio St (2), Notre Dame (2), Syracuse (2), Michigan St (0), Belmont (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 21
Gothmog: . . . . Wisconsin (6), BYU (4), Texas (3), WVU (3), Xavier (0), Texas A&M (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 16
MRC: . . . . Connecticut (6), Temple (4), WVU (3), Syracuse (2), St. John's (0), Oakland (0), ODU (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 15
Vince: . . . . Connecticut (6), WVU (3), Syracuse (2), Notre Dame (2), Pittsburgh (1), Georgetown (0), Villanova (0), St. John's (0), ...Total: 14
zazzy: . . . . Kentucky (9), Kansas St (3), Georgetown (0), St. Peter's (0), Memphis (0), St. John's (0), Louisville (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 12
Arnutz: . . . . Kentucky (9), Syracuse (2), Georgetown (0), Texas A&M (0), Michigan St (0), Tennessee (0), Missouri (0), ODU (0), ...Total: 11
Samboohoo: . . . . Michigan (4), Texas (3), Duke (2), Purdue (2), Georgia (0), Texas A&M (0), Utah St (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 11

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30. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
I think the Uncosen 8 are almost neck and neck with CTgirl, what with VCU's pair of wins... but then again, she's got the other two Final Four teams, with UNC in the last game to go...
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31. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
CTgirl is the runaway winner while AyaK and I duke fight it out for second.
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32. "Current standings"
What a final four! Even though it trashed my brackets, I love it.

Butler back to back final fours?? Crazy!

CT girl is the runaway winner. It remains only to see how high she'll go. It will be a record as she's the first ever to crack 50 points here. She still has Butler and UConn left alive and is the only one with 2 teams. The first person who doesn't have either of those two is Yogi, in 4th, and having no chance to catch up. The only 'entry' with a chance is the unchosen 8 who could get 10 more points if VCU goes all the way and UK beats UConn. And, even then, it would be a tie. Only Gothmog and Samboohoo have lost all their teams.

Unchosen 8: . . . . VCU (20), Moorehead St (6), Illinois (5), San Diego St (4), Cincinnati (4), UCLA (4), UNLV (0), Princeton (0), ...Total: 43

CT girl: . . . . Butler (16), Connecticut (8), Arizona (9), Florida (6), UNC (6), Kansas (3), WVU (3), Purdue (2), ...Total: 53
Max: . . . . Connecticut (8), Arizona (9), Florida (6), UNC (6), Gonzaga (5), Kansas St (3), Purdue (2), Xavier (0), ...Total: 39
Ayak: . . . . Butler (16), Wisconsin (6), Gonzaga (5), Washington (4), Texas (3), Ohio St (2), Purdue (2), Missouri (0), ...Total: 38
Yogi: . . . . Kentucky (12), Florida St (10), Gonzaga (5), George Mason (4), Purdue (2), Syracuse (2), Missouri (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 35
Michel: . . . . Kentucky (12), Marquette (10), Wisconsin (6), Texas (3), Purdue (2), St. John's (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 33
Aethelstan: . . . . Kentucky (12), Richmond (12), Texas (3), Notre Dame (2), Georgetown (0), Xavier (0), Utah St (0), Michigan St (0), ...Total: 29
Starshine: . . . . Connecticut (8), Florida (6), Wisconsin (6), Texas (3), WVU (3), Notre Dame (2), Georgetown (0), Xavier (0), ...Total: 28
Snidget: . . . . Kentucky (12), UNC (6), BYU (4), Kansas St (3), Syracuse (2), Georgetown (0), Texas A&M (0), Clemson (0), ...Total: 27
Emydi: . . . . Connecticut (8), Arizona (9), Ohio St (2), Notre Dame (2), Syracuse (2), Michigan St (0), Belmont (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 23
MRC: . . . . Connecticut (8), Temple (4), WVU (3), Syracuse (2), St. John's (0), Oakland (0), ODU (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 17
Gothmog: . . . . Wisconsin (6), BYU (4), Texas (3), WVU (3), Xavier (0), Texas A&M (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 16
Vince: . . . . Connecticut (8), WVU (3), Syracuse (2), Notre Dame (2), Pittsburgh (1), Georgetown (0), Villanova (0), St. John's (0), ...Total: 16
zazzy: . . . . Kentucky (12), Kansas St (3), Georgetown (0), St. Peter's (0), Memphis (0), St. John's (0), Louisville (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 15
Arnutz: . . . . Kentucky (12), Syracuse (2), Georgetown (0), Texas A&M (0), Michigan St (0), Tennessee (0), Missouri (0), ODU (0), ...Total: 14
Samboohoo: . . . . Michigan (4), Texas (3), Duke (2), Purdue (2), Georgia (0), Texas A&M (0), Utah St (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 11


The conference standings are quite interesting. Tough to really compare though given how there were a different number of teams at different seeds but here they are:

Big East: . . . . Connecticut (8), Marquette (10), Cincinnati (4), WVU (3), Notre Dame (2), Syracuse (2), Pittsburgh (1), Georgetown (0), Villanova (0), St. John's (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 30
CAA: . . . . VCU (20), George Mason (4), ODU (0), ...Total: 24
Big 10: . . . . Wisconsin (6), Illinois (5), Michigan (4), Ohio St (2), Purdue (2), Penn St (0), Michigan St (0), ...Total: 19
ACC: . . . . Florida St (10), UNC (6), Duke (2), Clemson (0), ...Total: 18
SEC: . . . . Kentucky (12), Florida (6), Georgia (0), Tennessee (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 18
Pac 10: . . . . Arizona (9), Washington (4), UCLA (4), USC (0), ...Total: 17
Horizon .... Butler (16) ...Total: 16
A-10: . . . . Richmond (12), Temple (4), Xavier (0), ...Total: 16
Big 12: . . . . Kansas (3), Texas (3), Kansas St (3), Texas A&M (0), Missouri (0), ...Total: 9
MWC: . . . . BYU (4), San Diego St (4), UNLV (0), ...Total: 8

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33. "RE: Current standings"
CT girl is the runaway winner. It remains only to see how high she'll go. It will be a record as she's the first ever to crack 50 points here.

Just for comparison, she'd be currently tied for 2nd place (out of 107) at my work pool. The first place person has CT, Butler, and KY still active, for 57 points. Nobody, in 107 entries, had VCU.


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34. "RE: Current standings"
Congratulations CTGirl, that was pretty impressive.

You beat me again!

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35. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
CT girl is guaranteed to crack 60 points!

Butler has more points than all conferences except the Big East and is tied with the CAA.

UConn had to win 5 games in 5 days to win the Big East tournament. I thought they'd have been tired and faltered by now. I thought wrong!

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36. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
At least someone beat the unchosen teams.

Congrats CT Girl!!!

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37. "RE: March Madness: Pick 8"
w0w! That is awesome! Congrats to CTGirl!

...and thanks for running the game again, stan! Even though I suck at it, it's always fun to watch how everyone's picks turn out.

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38. "And the winner is......"
CTGirl!!!

Congratulations!!! You broke 60 points. I'm sure that would have been worth money in Gothmog's league.



CT girl: . . . . Butler (20), Connecticut (12), Arizona (9), Florida (6), UNC (6), Kansas (3), WVU (3), Purdue (2), ...Total: 61
Max: . . . . Connecticut (12), Arizona (9), Florida (6), UNC (6), Gonzaga (5), Kansas St (3), Purdue (2), Xavier (0), ...Total: 43
Ayak: . . . . Butler (20), Wisconsin (6), Gonzaga (5), Washington (4), Texas (3), Ohio St (2), Purdue (2), Missouri (0), ...Total: 42
Yogi: . . . . Kentucky (12), Florida St (10), Gonzaga (5), George Mason (4), Purdue (2), Syracuse (2), Missouri (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 35
Michel: . . . . Kentucky (12), Marquette (10), Wisconsin (6), Texas (3), Purdue (2), St. John's (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 33
Starshine: . . . . Connecticut (12), Florida (6), Wisconsin (6), Texas (3), WVU (3), Notre Dame (2), Georgetown (0), Xavier (0), ...Total: 32
Aethelstan: . . . . Kentucky (12), Richmond (12), Texas (3), Notre Dame (2), Georgetown (0), Xavier (0), Utah St (0), Michigan St (0), ...Total: 29
Emydi: . . . . Connecticut (12), Arizona (9), Ohio St (2), Notre Dame (2), Syracuse (2), Michigan St (0), Belmont (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 27
Snidget: . . . . Kentucky (12), UNC (6), BYU (4), Kansas St (3), Syracuse (2), Georgetown (0), Texas A&M (0), Clemson (0), ...Total: 27
MRC: . . . . Connecticut (12), Temple (4), WVU (3), Syracuse (2), St. John's (0), Oakland (0), ODU (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 21
Vince: . . . . Connecticut (12), WVU (3), Syracuse (2), Notre Dame (2), Pittsburgh (1), Georgetown (0), Villanova (0), St. John's (0), ...Total: 20
Gothmog: . . . . Wisconsin (6), BYU (4), Texas (3), WVU (3), Xavier (0), Texas A&M (0), Missouri (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 16
zazzy: . . . . Kentucky (12), Kansas St (3), Georgetown (0), St. Peter's (0), Memphis (0), St. John's (0), Louisville (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 15
Arnutz: . . . . Kentucky (12), Syracuse (2), Georgetown (0), Texas A&M (0), Michigan St (0), Tennessee (0), Missouri (0), ODU (0), ...Total: 14
Samboohoo: . . . . Michigan (4), Texas (3), Duke (2), Purdue (2), Georgia (0), Texas A&M (0), Utah St (0), Penn St (0), ...Total: 11

The unchosen 8 would have come in tied for second.

Unchosen 8: . . . . VCU (20), Moorehead St (6), Illinois (5), San Diego St (4), Cincinnati (4), UCLA (4), UNLV (0), Princeton (0), ...Total: 43


By conference.

Big East: . . . . Connecticut (12), Marquette (10), Cincinnati (4), WVU (3), Notre Dame (2), Syracuse (2), Pittsburgh (1), Georgetown (0), Villanova (0), St. John's (0), Louisville (0), ...Total: 34

CAA: . . . . VCU (20), George Mason (4), ODU (0), ...Total: 24
Horizon: Butler 20!
Big 10: . . . . Wisconsin (6), Illinois (5), Michigan (4), Ohio St (2), Purdue (2), Penn St (0), Michigan St (0), ...Total: 19
ACC: . . . . Florida St (10), UNC (6), Duke (2), Clemson (0), ...Total: 18
SEC: . . . . Kentucky (12), Florida (6), Georgia (0), Tennessee (0), Vanderbilt (0), ...Total: 18
Pac 10: . . . . Arizona (9), Washington (4), UCLA (4), USC (0), ...Total: 17
A-10: . . . . Richmond (12), Temple (4), Xavier (0), ...Total: 16
Big 12: . . . . Kansas (3), Texas (3), Kansas St (3), Texas A&M (0), Missouri (0), ...Total: 9
MWC: . . . . BYU (4), San Diego St (4), UNLV (0), ...Total: 8

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39. "RE: And the winner is......"
Thanks Stan for running the game. It was a crazy tournament. Too bad the final game was such a let down!

I do have to give props to my son because he suggested that I pick Butler (and WVA) and remembering how they played last year I agreed they were going to be good for some points. (Didn't think they'd earn me that many though!) He also told me to pick teams in the top and bottom of each quadrant of the bracket so they won't meet each other right away and that worked well for me.

Of course, being a native Nutmegger, there was no way I wasn't going to pick UConn after the way they performed in the Big East tournament. UConn beat my alma mater in the first round so I decided that if we had to lose to UConn, they better GO ALL THE WAY and they did. I should've entered my bracket someplace where I might have earned some money!

Looking forward to next year!


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40. "RE: And the winner is......"
I'm sure that would have been worth money in Gothmog's league.

In my work pool, the cost for entry is $2. First place gets 60% (minus $2 for the person who finishes last); 2nd place gets 30% and third gets 10%. CTGirl would have finished tied for 2nd/107 in my work pool, which would have won $42.80 (splitting the 2nd and 3rd place winnings). The winner had 65 points and won $126.40. That's high for us. Even with lots of entries, the winner usually has something in the 50s. Lower seeds going far means higher numbers. I finished 94th. Yech.


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