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"Super Bowl Trivia"
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LAST EDITED ON 02-04-11 AT 07:18PM (EST)
ETA hidden answers

What will this Super Bowl not have that every other previous Super Bowl had?

Who is the only Super Bowl MVP from the losing team?

Who is the only player to win MVP of the Super Bowl 3 times?

What team has the most Super Bowl MVPs?

There are 4 players who won both the Super Bowl MVP and the Heisman Trophy, name one.

Who was the first Wildcard team to make it to the Super Bowl?


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 RE: Super Bowl Trivia cahaya 02-04-11 1
   RE: Super Bowl Trivia rjrabbit 02-04-11 2
 RE: Super Bowl Trivia AyaK 02-05-11 3
   RE: Super Bowl Trivia rjrabbit 02-05-11 4
       RE: Super Bowl Trivia AyaK 02-05-11 5
           RE: Super Bowl Trivia rjrabbit 02-06-11 6

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1. "RE: Super Bowl Trivia"
I mentioned it in the other thresd, but no cheerleaders!

When your team is losing, it helps to have a diversion to keep your eyes off of the field.

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2. "RE: Super Bowl Trivia"
I missed that in the other thread. I'll have to go back and find it.


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3. "RE: Super Bowl Trivia"
LAST EDITED ON 02-05-11 AT 11:21 PM (EST)

Some of the hidden answers have complications; the answers are not clearly correct.

"What team has the most Super Bowl MVPs?"

Since a player from the winning team has won the MVP award in every Super Bowl except for Super Bowl V (when Chuck Howley of Dallas won although the Baltimore Colts won the game), a quick way to answer this is to look at Super Bowl victories. Pittsburgh has 6, Dallas has 5 and San Francisco has 5. Taking Chuck Howley into account, it's clear that Pittsburgh and Dallas each have 6 Super Bowl MVPs. The fact that Harvey Martin and Randy White were co-MVPs in 1978 shouldn't change that. Counting them as two different recipients ignores the fact that neither actually won the MVP outright.

Pittsburgh: Franco Harris, Lynn Swann, Terry Bradshaw (2), Hines Ward, Santonio Holmes.
Dallas: Chuck Howley, Roger Staubach, Harvey Martin & Randy White, Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Larry Brown.

"Who was the first wild card team to make it to the Super Bowl?"

Does a wild card team mean a division non-winner? That's the sense that it's always been used in. If that's so, the first wild card team to make it to the Super Bowl was one of the first two division non-winners to reach the playoffs: the 1969 Kansas City Chiefs.

Beginning the second season of the Super Bowl, the AFL had two divisions (East and West); the NFL had four (Central, Coastal, Capital and Century). For Super Bowl IV, the AFL decided to go to a 4-team playoff to match the NFL, since the leagues were merging the next year. Thus, in addition to the division winners (NYJ and Oakland), both second place teams made the playoffs as well (KC and Houston). KC beat both the Jets (13-6) and the Raiders (17-7) to make the Super Bowl, which KC won over the Vikings 23-7.

To make the answer given correct, the question has to be worded thusly: "Who was the first wild card team in the NFL to make it to the Super Bowl?"

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In 1970, three NFL teams moved to the AFC, giving each conference 13 teams, and the conferences realigned so that each had three divisions: East, Central, West. The three teams that left the NFC came from the Coastal (Baltimore) and Century (Cleveland, Pittsburgh) Divisions. To return the Coastal to four teams, New Orleans was moved from the Capital to join Atlanta, LA and SF, and it became the West. The remaining teams in Capital (Washington, Philadelphia and Dallas) joined the two teams left from the Century (NYG and St. Louis) to form the East. The Central (GB, Chicago, Minnesota, Detroit) was left unchanged. After that, to maintain the four-team playoffs, each league added one wild-card team per year (expanded to two in 1978 and three in 1990, then back to two when a fourth division was added in 2002). The first wild card team to make the Super Bowl in that format was indeed the 1975 Dallas Cowboys (who beat the Vikings on the famous "Hail Mary" pass from Staubach to Drew Pearson), but that's also not the question asked.

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4. "RE: Super Bowl Trivia"
I bow to the master Thanks Ayak for clarifying how I should have worded my questions.

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5. "RE: Super Bowl Trivia"
You know, it's interesting to remember what East and West used to mean in pro football prior to 1970. Technically, in the NFL the East was the Capital and Century Divisions; the West was the Coastal and Central. So here were Western teams in the Eastern time zone:

Baltimore, Atlanta, Detroit, Cincinnati (AFL).

Those were offset by Eastern teams in the Central time zone:

Dallas, New Orleans, St. Louis, Houston (AFL)

After 1970, the Central teams weren't considered East or West (taking out Detroit, Cincinnati and Houston), and Baltimore moved to the East while New Orleans moved to the West, leaving only Atlanta, Dallas and St. Louis as problems.

Nowadays, the NFL alignment is much better, although I still think Miami, Baltimore and Indianapolis should switch in the AFC: Indy to the North with Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and Cleveland (a natural cluster); Baltimore to the East with Buffalo, New England and New York; and Miami to the South with Carolina, Tennessee and Jacksonville.

And, in a perfect world, Dallas wouldn't be in the NFC East, but do you really want to swap Dallas for Detroit?

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6. "RE: Super Bowl Trivia"
Very interesting. I always wondered by Dallas was in the NFC East. I thing the Eagles, Redskins and Giants would like to have Detroit over Dallas.


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