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"Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
There's good news and bad news this week. The good news is that there will be local coverage of tonight's Colts game, allowing me to watch a Thursday game despite having no access to the NFL Network. The bad news is that the Colts stink, meaning I may not want to watch after all.

What's the over/under on Peyton's pick-sixes this week?


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 RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... Estee 12-09-10 1
 Forgot one important point. Max Headroom 12-09-10 2
   RE: Forgot one important point. Estee 12-09-10 3
       RE: Forgot one important point. AyaK 12-09-10 4
           RE: Forgot one important point. Estee 12-09-10 5
               RE: Forgot one important point. AyaK 12-11-10 18
           RE: Forgot one important point. HobbsofMI 12-09-10 7
       RE: Forgot one important point. Max Headroom 12-09-10 6
           RE: Forgot one important point. HobbsofMI 12-09-10 8
           RE: Forgot one important point. cahaya 12-09-10 10
           RE: Forgot one important point. Snidget 12-10-10 13
               RE: Forgot one important point. Estee 12-10-10 15
   RE: Forgot one important point. cahaya 12-09-10 9
       RE: Forgot one important point. HobbsofMI 12-10-10 12
           RE: Forgot one important point. cahaya 12-10-10 16
 Oh well vince3 12-10-10 11
 RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... Max Headroom 12-10-10 14
   RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... cahaya 12-10-10 17
 Travel Woes vince3 12-12-10 19
   RE: Travel Woes Estee 12-12-10 20
   Uh-Oh! ARnutz 12-12-10 21
       RE: Uh-Oh! PepeLePew13 12-12-10 22
           RE: Uh-Oh! ARnutz 12-12-10 23
               RE: Uh-Oh! Estee 12-12-10 24
                   RE: Uh-Oh! vince3 12-12-10 25
                       RE: Uh-Oh! ARnutz 12-12-10 26
                           RE: Uh-Oh! vince3 12-12-10 27
                               RE: Uh-Oh! ARnutz 12-12-10 28
       RE: Uh-Oh! samboohoo 12-12-10 29
           RE: Uh-Oh! Snidget 12-12-10 32
               RE: Uh-Oh! Estee 12-12-10 35
                   RE: Uh-Oh! Snidget 12-12-10 36
                       RE: Uh-Oh! Estee 12-12-10 37
           RE: Uh-Oh! ARnutz 12-12-10 34
   Update: Mon game in DET ARnutz 12-12-10 30
       RE: Update: Mon game in DET Estee 12-12-10 40
       RE: Update: Mon game in DET HobbsofMI 12-12-10 70
 Nausea fuel. Estee 12-12-10 31
 Lots of good (free) seats available... Estee 12-12-10 33
   RE: Lots of good (free) seats avail... Max Headroom 12-12-10 41
       RE: Lots of good (free) seats avail... HobbsofMI 12-12-10 72
   RE: Lots of good (free) seats avail... PepeLePew13 12-12-10 46
       RE: Lots of good (free) seats avail... HobbsofMI 12-12-10 74
           RE: Lots of good (free) seats avail... Estee 12-12-10 78
               RE: Lots of good (free) seats avail... HobbsofMI 12-12-10 82
                   ticket update: HobbsofMI 12-13-10 88
                       RE: ticket update: Estee 12-13-10 96
                           RE: ticket update: AyaK 12-13-10 100
 RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... Estee 12-12-10 38
   RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... Snidget 12-12-10 39
 Football as it should be.... Snidget 12-12-10 42
   RE: Football as it should be.... Snidget 12-12-10 45
   RE: Football as it should be.... cahaya 12-13-10 89
 Steelers/Bungles vince3 12-12-10 43
   RE: Steelers/Bungles Snidget 12-12-10 44
   RE: Steelers/Bungles ARnutz 12-12-10 49
 RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... Estee 12-12-10 47
   RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... vince3 12-12-10 48
       RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... ARnutz 12-12-10 50
           RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... cahaya 12-13-10 90
       RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... Estee 12-12-10 51
       RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... HobbsofMI 12-12-10 76
       RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... AyaK 12-13-10 101
           RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... Max Headroom 12-13-10 110
 RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... Estee 12-12-10 52
 RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread... vince3 12-12-10 53
   Not a good sign vince3 12-12-10 54
       Halftime vince3 12-12-10 55
           RE: Halftime Snidget 12-12-10 56
               RE: Halftime vince3 12-12-10 58
 Has this ever happened in your medi... Snidget 12-12-10 57
   RE: Has this ever happened in your ... Estee 12-12-10 61
 Blizzard Game Update vince3 12-12-10 59
 That old Meadowlands theme song. Estee 12-12-10 60
   RE: That old Meadowlands theme song... Snidget 12-12-10 62
   Intentional trip? Snidget 12-12-10 63
       RE: Intentional trip? vince3 12-12-10 64
           RE: Intentional trip? cahaya 12-13-10 92
               RE: Intentional trip? Estee 12-13-10 95
                   Punishment in. Estee 12-13-10 105
                       RE: Punishment in. Snidget 12-13-10 112
                           RE: Punishment in. vince3 12-14-10 114
                               RE: Punishment in. vince3 12-15-10 115
   RE: That old Meadowlands theme song... Estee 12-12-10 68
   RE: That old Meadowlands theme song... ARnutz 12-12-10 79
 TAR Mega Delayed vince3 12-12-10 65
   RE: TAR Mega Delayed vince3 12-12-10 67
   RE: TAR Mega Delayed Estee 12-12-10 69
       RE: TAR Mega Delayed vince3 12-12-10 71
           RE: TAR Mega Delayed ARnutz 12-12-10 75
               RE: TAR Mega Delayed vince3 12-12-10 80
                   RE: TAR Mega Delayed ARnutz 12-12-10 81
 Speaking of the Metrodome vince3 12-12-10 66
   RE: Speaking of the Metrodome HobbsofMI 12-12-10 77
 ARI/DEN ARnutz 12-12-10 73
   RE: ARI/DEN cahaya 12-13-10 91
       RE: ARI/DEN PepeLePew13 12-13-10 93
           RE: ARI/DEN ARnutz 12-13-10 94
           RE: ARI/DEN HobbsofMI 12-13-10 98
           RE: ARI/DEN Max Headroom 12-13-10 111
 Stupid Question About Super Dome samboohoo 12-13-10 83
   RE: Stupid Question About Super Dom... ARnutz 12-13-10 84
   RE: Stupid Question About Super Dom... Estee 12-13-10 85
       RE: Stupid Question About Super Dom... vince3 12-13-10 86
   RE: Stupid Question About Super Dom... HobbsofMI 12-13-10 87
       I was wrong. HobbsofMI 12-13-10 97
           RE: I was wrong. vince3 12-13-10 99
 No Farce!!! ARnutz 12-13-10 102
   RE: No Farce!!! Estee 12-13-10 103
       RE: No Farce!!! ARnutz 12-13-10 104
           RE: No Farce!!! Snidget 12-13-10 108
 BrINT undressed for game on field. Estee 12-13-10 106
 Vikings have even more problems... vince3 12-13-10 107
 They didn't explain why. Estee 12-13-10 109
   RE: They didn't explain why. HobbsofMI 12-14-10 113

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Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings
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12-09-10, 08:58 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
Maybe the Colts should take a cue from the Jets.

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=5899769&y=1a5c9

.500 doesn't stink. It's mediocrity with four games left to improve. As the local saying sort of goes, you've still got chips -- might as well push them in.


Of course, the other cue from the Jets would be to lose all four.

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12-09-10, 09:11 AM (EST)
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2. "Forgot one important point."
Fantasy footballers, get Chris Johnson into your lineups, stat! The Colts' run defense (sponsored by Charmin) awaits.

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3. "RE: Forgot one important point."
Reverse jinxes seldom come through.

Actually, you do have some bad news coming. I've had Thursday night local TV coverage. You'll be getting the NFL Network announcing team.

Without mercy.

For three hours.

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4. "RE: Forgot one important point."
LAST EDITED ON 12-09-10 AT 09:34 AM (EST)

Listening to those guys is worse than watching Peyton throw pick-sixes.

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5. "RE: Forgot one important point."
That kind of loses something when it's coming from a Patriots fan.
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12-11-10, 05:12 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Forgot one important point."
I agree that. from my viewpoint, just about everything is worse than watching Peyton throw pick-sixes, because I love to see it so much.

But I meant from Max's viewpoint. Sorry for the impreciseness.

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7. "RE: Forgot one important point."
Millen is just as good as an announcer as he was a GM.


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6. "RE: Forgot one important point."
No worries, my TV has a mute button, and I can listen to the Colts local radio feed.

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8. "RE: Forgot one important point."
But can they call an INT like this:

BrINT vs. Saints


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10. "RE: Forgot one important point."
Trust me, that's exactly what you want to do.

This reminds me of the time my uncle and I would switch off the audio for Chuck Marlowe on WTTV channel 4 for the Hoosier basketball games and pick up the sharp play-by-play audio on WIBC radio (do you recall the announcer's name? he was great!). Chuck would always follow a made shot with "... and heeeeeee scores."

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13. "RE: Forgot one important point."
Dad, is that you?

My Dad used to do that sort of thing all the time. There was a radio and TV station owned by the same peeps and they used to swap the announcing teams back and forth between the two and my Dad would change back and forth from TV sound to the radio depending on who was announcing where.

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15. "RE: Forgot one important point."
But that was in the days before the seven-second-Janet-Jackson-Memorial Delay. When I try to watch television with the sound provided by radio coverage, I get a very small jump into the audio future while the visuals forever fail to catch up. For some sports, it's more disconcerting than others -- but you generally wind up knowing the result of a play while it's still being launched. Generally not helpful.

On the other hand, if you're watching with friends, wearing discrete receiver earplugs, and can make bets within that tiny window...

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9. "RE: Forgot one important point."
Fantasy footballers, get Chris Johnson into your lineups, stat!

Oh, you mean the guy who has 20 carries for 56 yards and no TDs against the Jaguars and Texans combined over the last two weeks?

He already cost an FF playoff bye, so I'm only waiting for him to cost an FF playoff game outright. Yes, I'm still starting him - anyone else, any other match up, I'd bench them - but I'll also wager that at least one or maybe two of my last two week's RB pickups (Dixon, Starks, Choice) still outscore him.

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12. "RE: Forgot one important point."
You like him now?


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16. "RE: Forgot one important point."
About time, CJ. Thank you, sir.

(Garcon in the line up sure helped, too!)

One thing I've been curious about but haven't found any story or information about is CJ's constant fits of head-shaking. Is this a medical condition he has, or just a habit?

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11. "Oh well"
At least I got the point in the Spread League...
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14. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
That was an ugly game, but the Colts need wins, not style points. It was nice seeing another team self-destruct for once; the Titans' fumbles and dropped passes were nice, but the snap over the punter's head was an especially good highlight.

But the Colts defense giving up four touchdowns to a team which hadn't scored a TD in their past three games? Terrible.

All it takes is one more blown game and the Colts' season is over. They blew the first game against the Jags, also gave away the Cowboys game, and one less late Peyton INT might've changed the outcome of the Patriots game as well. Win one or two of those, life would now be good. The Colts trademark used to be that they won the close games... but not so much this year. *sigh*

And as a fantasy football bonus, Adam Vinatieri had a good game for me.

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17. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-10 AT 12:14 PM (EST)

Yup, it's the W that counts. We need three more of 'em.

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19. "Travel Woes"
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-10 AT 01:38 AM (EST)

Due to the snowstrom that's rumbling across the country, the New York Giants are currently stuck in Kansas City... Problem is, they're supposed to be in Minneapolis right now...

The Vikings-Giants game has been postponed to basically be a localized Fox equivalent of Monday Night Football... Monday at 8pm EST...

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5909288

(This may also be interesting to see if it affects the Racers, wherever they currently are right now...)

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20. "RE: Travel Woes"
Is there anything the NFL won't do to try and protect BrINT's precious starter streak?
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12-12-10, 09:52 AM (EST)
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21. "Uh-Oh!"
The Metrodome roof collapsed.

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=892684&catid=391

Jeepers. At this rate, BrINT should be all healed up by the time they're ready to go!

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22. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
This is going to be fun. If it's damaged bad enough to force postponement to a later date, then it'll mess up the playoff race in a big way particularly if the Giants are in position to move up a spot or two for home field.

Just as great will be the impact on fantasy football playoffs starting this week -- start or sit Adrian Peterson, for example? And in two of my leagues, the opponent has Eli Manning as the starting QB.

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23. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
The only solution is to send the Vikes to KC to meet up with the Giants and they can play at Arrowhead! Luckily, KC is on the road this week, so the stadium is likely available.
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24. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
It wouldn't surprise me if that's part of the current Plan B: closest available stadium (pro or college). Baseball's done it a few times when facilities were out of commission -- and football doesn't have any more schedule-mandated off days/weeks to use for fill-ins. The Giants & Vikings pretty much have to play by Monday night -- Tuesday as a worst-case -- or the entire scenario goes to a place it's never been before: the great push-back plan. 'So we'll delay the playoffs by seven days. It's not as if giving everyone a rest week could ever affect anything.'

They should be fine as long as Harvard doesn't get involved.

Very old, very dark Patriots joke.

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25. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
I think they might be leaning more toward the nearest domed stadium, since the Giants brought their indoor dome equipment on the road with them instead of their outdoor cold-weather gear... This is gonna be interesting to see what happens...
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26. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-10 AT 11:49 AM (EST)

The NFL is currently considering alternative stadiums, including the outdoor UMinn field.

This definitely will be interesting...

ETA: It looks to me like the closest dome is St. Louis, who is also on the road this week.

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27. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
One additional consideration will be that since this was gonna air on Fox, getting a crew assembled in the alternate stadium may also factor in... A somewhat nearby stadium that already has a Fox crew in place is Ford Field in Detroit...
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28. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-10 AT 12:53 PM (EST)

Good point. I was not even thinking of the Fox crew.

ESPN is saying that Ford is a possibility as well. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/33351/ford-field-could-host-giants-vikings

ETA: That may not be a good place either as the storm which traveled through MINN is heading toward MICH. OY!

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29. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
You need to see the NFL on Fox video. Wow.


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32. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
http://msn.foxsports.com/video/shows/nfl-on-fox has the video, can't get a direct link, but not hard to pick the right one.


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35. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
Or if you're allergic to FOX sites, a still picture might do.

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36. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
Like this one better, it is from the fox video but on a MN blog

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2010/12/metrodome_colla.php

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37. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
Somewhere in America, there's a kid looking at that and yelling 'When I grow up, I'm gonna ride that!'

Definitely better.

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34. "RE: Uh-Oh!"
OMG that is surreal.
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30. "Update: Mon game in DET"
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-10 AT 01:14 PM (EST)

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14431522/metrodome-collapses-during-heavy-snow-storm

Now we have to hope the Ford roof doesn't collapse under the storm before game time.

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40. "RE: Update: Mon game in DET"
A. But Ford's too important to collapse!

B. Like anything associated with the Lions would ever fall apart.

C. Don't worry. If it does, all that'll happen is the President giving the team owners twenty billion dollars.

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70. "RE: Update: Mon game in DET"
And tickets are free and all seats are general admission unless you had tickets for the Minn-NYG game in Minn and you make it to Detroit. Those who went to tadays GB/Det game just need to bring their stub or get a free ticket 9 am at the Ford Field Box office.


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31. "Nausea fuel."
BrINT gave ESPN an interview where he admitted that if the game had been today, he wouldn't have been able to start.

I turned it off before he got to the inevitable part about how the gawds always liked him best.

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33. "Lots of good (free) seats available."
Live in the Detroit area and want to see an NFL game in person that doesn't involve the Lions? The ticket plan for the Giants vs. Vikings game is Fair Use quoted from ESPN:

'Ticket holders for the game will be admitted and given preferred seating along the 50-yard line, the Vikings said in a statement. Free general admission tickets will be available at the Ford Field box office beginning at 9 a.m. ET. Refunds will also be given to original tickets holders.'

So given that we aren't going to see an entire stadium's worth of people making the commute, I'm guessing there's going to be a few decent views out there at a ticket cost of zilch. Locals may want to check it out.

No promises on parking fees.

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41. "RE: Lots of good (free) seats available."
Someone needs to call 1-800-HobbsOfMI.
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72. "RE: Lots of good (free) seats available."
Hello, may I help you?

I really need to read all the thread before posting. I need a lime helmet for my free ticket post.


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46. "RE: Lots of good (free) seats available."
It'll be a sell-out, guaranteed - I mean, how many chances do the good folks of Detroit get to have a real, live football team that would serve as a 'home' team in their building?

Decisions, decisions... I'm only three hours away from Detroit. But I'd need to knock off from work in order to make it on time for the game...

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74. "RE: Lots of good (free) seats available."
It will also be Detroit's first Monday night game in Ford Field but the Lion's won't be playing.


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78. "RE: Lots of good (free) seats available."
Are you going to try and attend, or do you think the Lions' tickets holders (who weren't mentioned in the ESPN article) will grab practically all the seats?
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82. "RE: Lots of good (free) seats available."
I was going to but then I looked at my calendar and have a doc appointment at 6 pm. So it's a no go. There is a big buzz here, especially after the Lion's pulled the upset today, so I think it will be full.


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88. "ticket update:"
They had people standing in line at 5:30 am and they stopped giving out tickets at 10 am after 30,000 were given out. Reports of 3 full planes of fans chartered by Minn is due in with maybe another plane or two if they can get it set up in time. NYG fan's who flew into Minn have been offered free changes in their tickets to Detroit as a stop instead of going back home from Delta Airlines.

The only way to see it is if you have the NFL ticket or you are in the local area for Minn and NYG which sucks. Put it on NFL network.


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96. "RE: ticket update:"
Put it on NFL network

I'm not sure how this improves things.

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100. "RE: ticket update:"
NFL Network is going to show it AFTER the Monday night game. At least I'll get to see it ... if I want to.
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38. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
NYC media market replacement TV game: Packers vs. Lions.

No one knows why.

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39. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-10 AT 04:11 PM (EST)

Pre-payback for use of the stadium?

Would you rather watch the falcons carrying baby kittens back to the nest to feed their young.

I've just looked at the score, it looks like it would be too painful to actually try to watch the game.

ETA: Hey, the little kitty's passing total is up from -5 to +9 wOOt!

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42. "Football as it should be...."
Outside in the snow.

For some reason it doesn't seem like real football when there is a roof.

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45. "RE: Football as it should be...."
Or maybe volleyball, I didn't know you could set a football like that, almost got intercepted after the set.
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89. "RE: Football as it should be...."
Y'know, when I was a kid (say, 4th to 9th grade or so) with me in a carefully hand-painted Vikings helmet, we'd play football in the snow. No snowmen or snow angels, just some great slipping and sliding and soft ground tackles with long skids up to the line. Most fun!


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43. "Steelers/Bungles"
If I showed you the score first, you would think that the Steelers ran roughshod over the Bungles...

If I told you first that the Steelers didn't score an offensive touchdown, you would think that the Bungles maybe either eeked one out or won handily...

If I told you first that Ben re-tweaked his bad foot, and Troy Polamalu also got some kind of ankle injury, you probably would think the Steelers got blown out of the water...

If I told you that the Steelers picked two Carson Palmer passes for pick-6s, we're back to Steelers blowing out the Bungles again...

Steelers win 23-7. No offensive Steeler TDs, two pick-6s, the first of which was a long return by Polamalu in which he got injured in the effort to score after getting hit in the hip by Palmer around the 6 yard line... Bungles even led 7-0 until there was 5 minutes in the 2nd quarter... 3 total Carson Palmer intercepts. 'Sushi' (Shaun Suisham) gets 2 more FGs, giving him 9 total the last 3 weeks, 6 of which have been in the 40-49 range... (has been with the team for 4 weeks total...)

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44. "RE: Steelers/Bungles"
Why should the offense get all the glory, nice to let the defense get some touchdowns for a change.


although sometimes it seems they cast the wrong guys as receivers

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49. "RE: Steelers/Bungles"
Don't let the score fool you. That was one helluvan exciting game!

Nutzy ♥'s Troy!

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47. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
*glances at scoreboard*

The Packers are going to be feeling that one in the morning.

The Redskins, not so much.

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48. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
Depending on how long Aaron Rodgers is concussed, they may be feeling that loss the rest of the season...

The Redskins' loss? *headshake, facepalm* I've heard of finding ways to lose, but that is ridiculous...

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50. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
I would say this is classic McNabb, but ya gotta pin this one on Gano.
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90. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
... ya gotta pin this one on Gano.

Gone-O!

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51. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
I just think Redskins fans are at the point where they're too numb to feel much of anything.
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76. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-10 AT 10:48 PM (EST)

Been there, done that....I was even there it was against Culpepper/Moss Minn. on 12/19/2004 (edit I had the wrong game in my mind).

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=241219008


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101. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
If I were the Packers, I'd just plan for Rodgers to be off this week in NE and hope for him to be healthy for the rest of the season.

The Pack has no chance without Rodgers. But it doesn't look like they have much chance against NE anyway, so why not just get him healthy?

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110. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
If I were the Packers, I'd just plan for Rodgers to be off this week in NE

You obviously don't have Aaron Rodgers anchoring your fantasy football team.

Then again, his 1 point this week left me needing Visanthe Shiancoe to get 30+ receiving yards tonight to keep my PIOT team in the playoffs. An anchor, indeed.

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52. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
So what's the Patriots' excuse this time? Someone told them Chicago was old-fashioned Communist and they were actually striking against the Russian bear?
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53. "RE: Week #14 NFL Complaining Thread "
Anyone remember what happened the last time the Patriots played in blizzard-like conditions like they're playing in today?

Patriots 59, Titans 0 late October last year...


It's shaping up to be a repeat performance: Patriots 27, Bears 0... with 3:20 remaining in the first half...

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54. "Not a good sign"
A stat that popped up at the beginning of the following Bears drive: Patriots total points, 27. Bears total yards, 32... and then the Bears promptly lost 5 yards to boot...
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55. "Halftime"
Patriots 33-0, thanks to a short flare pass that resulted in a TD as the half expired... Extra point failed.

Bears have had 3 opportunities to get the ball off of New England literally slip through their figures so far...


This could get really ugly in the 2nd half...

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56. "RE: Halftime"
Maybe they will get the figures replaced with fingers during half-time and do better.

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58. "RE: Halftime"
Maybe I need my figures replaced by fingers as well...
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57. "Has this ever happened in your media market?"
He I was enjoying watching a game in the snow and they decide that 33-0 at halftime is boring or something so they switched us over to the Jets game.

I wanna watch the snow. *sniff*

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61. "RE: Has this ever happened in your media market?"
You could always go stand in the Metrodome.
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59. "Blizzard Game Update"
Patriots lead 36-7, 8 1/2 minutes left in 3rd Quarter... to keep the running gag going: Those responsible for allowing the Bears TD will be executed after the game (their first TD allowed since Thanksgiving against the Lions...)
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60. "That old Meadowlands theme song."
slip-slidin' away...
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62. "RE: That old Meadowlands theme song."
If only all that rain was snow, they I could still being enjoying football in the snow.
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63. "Intentional trip?"
Or just a Dolphin being silly enough to run along the very edge of the side line and did it to himself?

Can they charge a penalty on the peeps standing on the sidelines?

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64. "RE: Intentional trip?"
Yes, I believe it's called Sideline Interference...
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92. "RE: Intentional trip?"
And he admitted and apologized for it!

Scumbag.

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95. "RE: Intentional trip?"
It was a no-class move. I wouldn't be surprised if the league fined him for it -- but a typical fine for a player can wipe out a good percentage of a minor coach's post-tax salary.

There should be a lesson here, but let's not make it a bankrupting one.

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105. "Punishment in."
Suspended without pay for the rest of the season (and, if the Jets make it in, the postseason).

Ouch.

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112. "RE: Punishment in."
That seems kinda harsh.

I wouldn't think a player would be sidelined for that long.

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114. "RE: Punishment in."
Insult to injury: $25k fine plus the suspension...
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115. "RE: Punishment in."
Now the Jets organization has suspended him indefinitely... with a reason being that he and those that were standing with him was an organized move on his own part to obstruct the gunner on his way down the field... which was independent of his trip move...
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68. "RE: That old Meadowlands theme song."
Y'know, I think 9-7 is very possible. Especially since you could make the argument that by all rights, the Jets should currently be at 6-7 on the way to 6-10.
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79. "RE: That old Meadowlands theme song."
That sound you heard coming from East Rutherford?

... yeah, that was all the horseshoes falling out of the Jets' butts!

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65. "TAR Mega Delayed"
Patriots lead 36-7, 4 1/2 minutes to go

Miami leads 10-3, about 7 minutes to go

Arizona leads Denver 19-3, start of the 4th quarter

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67. "RE: TAR Mega Delayed"
Patriots and Dolphins both hold their leads and those are the respective finals.

Patriots now have clinched a birth in the playoffs, and the Jets fall further behind in the division and closer toward the 'in the hunt' part of the playoff chase...

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69. "RE: TAR Mega Delayed"
Just went to 60 Minutes here.
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71. "RE: TAR Mega Delayed"
Same here, thankfully Broncos and Cardinals both stink this year.... so that only those markets have to see their debacles...
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75. "RE: TAR Mega Delayed"
It may also be due to the Cardinals being in the NFC? Usually Fox has NFC and CBS has AFC.
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80. "RE: TAR Mega Delayed"
Visitor determines the network, and Broncos are the visitors in that game...
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81. "RE: TAR Mega Delayed"
Aha! I didn't know that. I assumed home team was the decider.

I learned something new today.

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66. "Speaking of the Metrodome"
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-10 AT 08:06 PM (EST)

I wonder how long it'll take to repair the holes in the roof?

I'm asking because next week's normally scheduled Monday Night Football game? Is Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings!

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77. "RE: Speaking of the Metrodome"
There is a rumor out there that Minn will be in Det for the next 3 weeks.


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73. "ARI/DEN"
How often does a kicker rush for a TD, then kick his own PAT?

According to the box score, Jay Feely did this in the 2nd quarter on a 4th and 2.

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91. "RE: ARI/DEN"
LAST EDITED ON 12-13-10 AT 12:37 PM (EST)

Way cool dude. Early on, he scored all of the Cards points single-handed -- and well, single-footed, too. Nice play on the run, with the D totally fooled.

I'm not not sure, but he may have come close to (if not) scoring the most FF points by any kicker, any time.

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93. "RE: ARI/DEN"
I remember Adam Vinatieri scored something like 30 FF points a few years ago - he kicked something like 5 FGs and 4 PATs plus he threw for a TD pass on a fake FG attempt.
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94. "RE: ARI/DEN"
I think I remember that Vinatieri game.

According to the stats, Feely wound up with 29 fantasy points (in Yahoo, anyway). That's incredible!

The only players who outscored him this week were McFadden - Oak and Turner - ATL.

I bet the Jets are sorry he's not on their team anymore!

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98. "RE: ARI/DEN"
LAST EDITED ON 12-13-10 AT 03:22 PM (EST)

Didn't Racker's in AZ he hit like 2 or 3 50 yard + FG and a few others plus some PAT's? I think I remember him winning games single handily that year.

Edit: I think I found it: 4 40+, 2 FG, 2 PAT's: 24 10/2/05


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111. "RE: ARI/DEN"
A couple of years ago I started Rob Bironas as a bye-week replacement the week he set the NFL record with eight made FGs. A 30-point kicker, woo hoo!

And the next week? He was back on waivers as my regular kicker's bye week was over.

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83. "Stupid Question About Super Dome"
I never realized they had an inflatable roof. Could they not have foreseen something like this happening? Was this a major design flaw?


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84. "RE: Stupid Question About Super Dome"
I don't know if it's a design flaw as much as the stadium itself is fairly old now, being built in 1982.

They used to have Vikes, Twins and UMinn games there. The only permanent residents left there now are the Vikes, who have been trying to get the city/state to build them a new stadium, but have been unsuccessful.

I know it's Wiki, but there's a lot of info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_H._Humphrey_Metrodome

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85. "RE: Stupid Question About Super Dome"
As I understand it, they've had three previous collapses, but those may have been loss of air pressure. (Don't leave the door open on your way out.) This was a failure in the roof material. The building is aging -- and Minnesota winters aren't kind to begin with. I think we're looking at the cumulative effect from decades of abuse.
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86. "RE: Stupid Question About Super Dome"
Yeah, and from what the talking heads/articles said about those collapses... they were from the first couple years of the building's existence... with only one other game prior being postponed: in 1983 a baseball game had to be postponed.
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87. "RE: Stupid Question About Super Dome"
The Pontiac Sliverdome collapsed the same way on March 4, 1985. They added heaters and drainage with the new roof. I believe the Metrodome did the same since they were basically twins of each other.

I'm assuming that the heaters could not keep up or failed or the drainage failed thus the weight was too much vs. the pressure to keep it up. I know they can adjust the pressure but I don't know if it's automatic.


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97. "I was wrong."
LAST EDITED ON 12-13-10 AT 11:26 PM (EST)

I thought it was replaced after the Silverdome's collapse but I guess not.

It was just inspected in April by the maker of the roof who recommended that it be replaced which takes about four years to plan and make. The defects were noted 5 years ago when they did their last inspection. Oops...somebody is going to be in trouble for maybe trying to save the $12 M to $15 M for a roof replacement cost.

Looking at the video again there are several small "leaks" then it goes down big thus as they predicted in the inspection report.

Roof Makers Report


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99. "RE: I was wrong."
That's a very dicey situation... They might be safer to hold that event at the UMinn stadium or just go neutral site again...
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102. "No Farce!!!"
BrINT is inactive! Ha!!! Now go retire!

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14438090/battered-favre-inactive-ironman-streak-ends-at-297

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103. "RE: No Farce!!!"
And now we have to listen to four straight hours of the announcers mourning the passing of Football Jesus.

He'll come back in three days the third quarter.

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104. "RE: No Farce!!!"
Here's the first. Hot off the presses: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-favrestreak121010

Actually, as much as I hate BrINT, 297 is an amazing number, all things considered.

OK. Moment over... back to hatin'!

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108. "RE: No Farce!!!"
For some reason the news of him not playing tonight makes me want to happy dance.

*happy dance!!!*

that is a pretty big achievement, but it would be more impressive if he didn't hang on like something moldy in the fridge that has evolved enough to grab the shelf when you try to throw it away.

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106. "BrINT undressed for game on field."
...that didn't come out right.
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107. "Vikings have even more problems..."
Tavaris Jackson collided with Adrian Peterson knee-knee and had to at least sit out one play... Joe Webb, the 3rd string QB had to come on the field...
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109. "They didn't explain why. "
I just saw a football crowd do the wave.

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113. "RE: They didn't explain why. "
Why? Because they could.


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