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Estee 44384 desperate attention whore postings
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11-26-10, 01:53 PM (EST)
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"What's an icon worth?"
The current reported state of the negotiations between Derek Jeter and the Yankees is as follows:

The Yankees are offering three years at $15,000,000 per.

Jeter (and his agent) want six years at $25,000,000 per.

Value to the rest of the baseball market: no actual offers to consider, but the self-titled experts feel that to another team, he's worth $10,000,000 a year at best -- and three years is about as far as you want to go. It would be possible to put in a team option for a fourth year with automatic performance-based kick-ins. But for absolute we-will-pay-this commitment to a 36-year-old shortstop? Three years. You could make an argument for the position as being the second quickest to age, right behind catcher -- and the number of players at any position who remain capable into their early forties is low.

You can probably imagine what the ever-underreacting local media is doing with this. Total mass hysteria. How can he ask for that much money? How can they refuse to pay it? Isn't he worth so much more than that just in merchandise sales? Isn't he going to cost the team wins as his batting average and fielding range almost inevitably decline? What kind of team would let The Face Of The Franchise finish his career in another uniform? What kind of nutcases would let themselves be blackmailed like this? And for the love of all things Steinbrenner, what if he gets signed by the Red Sox?

Most of the fans seem to be just as bad, only somewhat less coherent and with the frequently-added take that the Yankees have a salary budget of infinity, so it would be stupid to start rationing the cash now. After all, look what they gave A-Rod and the World's Highest-Paid Minor League Pitcher. Given that, how much is Jeter really asking for? At least they might get three years out of him, and since he's a Yankee, the baseball gawds will make sure his production never declines. Ever. Except when it does. Like last season.

Right now, I think Jeter (and his agent) are trying to hold the Yankees hostage with the whole 'Are you really going to let your captain go?' argument. But he doesn't have any other offers. What's his fallback position? Japan?

And one other element: the money does eventually start to run out. The Yankees couldn't sell out their highest-priced seats this year, we're still in a recession, and they have a lot of declining players under contract for a perceivable fraction of the GNP. At some point, throwing good money after bad turns into throwing it out the window. Jeter will be happy. His agent will be happy. And a lot of NYC nightclubs will be very happy. The rest of the participating parties will probably feel differently.

$105,000,000 apart. Let the entertainment begin.

The Mets couldn't be this stupid -- could they?

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Slowly donning the black hat. Estee 11-27-10 1
 Why donja use this Molaholic 11-27-10 2
   RE: Why donja use this Estee 11-28-10 3
 Three cauldrons of reality potion l... Estee 12-05-10 4
   RE: Three cauldrons of reality poti... byoffer 12-06-10 5
   RE: Three cauldrons of reality poti... Max Headroom 12-06-10 7
 About those Mets samboohoo 12-06-10 6
 RE: What's an icon worth? byoffer 12-07-10 8
 He's angry. Estee 12-08-10 9

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Estee 44384 desperate attention whore postings
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11-27-10, 06:24 PM (EST)
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1. "Slowly donning the black hat."
http://tinyurl.com/25nnlpx

His best defense here might be 'It wasn't me, it was my agent'. And the longer this goes on, the less credible that one becomes.

He could wind up as the bad guy -- a lot more easily than he probably believes.

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11-27-10, 11:33 PM (EST)
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2. "Why donja use this"

keep the change
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11-28-10, 09:40 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Why donja use this"
Sets a bad precedent for Cliff Lee's contract.
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12-05-10, 02:31 PM (EST)
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4. "Three cauldrons of reality potion later..."
...he's still being overpaid. Just not by as much as he originally wanted.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5884052

So in the most expensive case, 'icon' works out to $35,000,000 over and above his current skill set value. Which is probably about what he'd lose to taxes anyway.

Do icons pay taxes?

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12-06-10, 03:47 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Three cauldrons of reality potion later..."
Not all of them



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12-06-10, 05:25 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Three cauldrons of reality potion later..."
$51M and Minka Kelly? I want to be Derek Jeter when I grow up.
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12-06-10, 04:16 PM (EST)
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6. "About those Mets"
They paid Glavine. And I was happy to see him go if that's what it came down to. He lost me as a fan that day - even when he came back.


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12-07-10, 12:36 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: What's an icon worth?"
I guess the answer is $51M*.

(*over 3 years with player option for 4th year)

I will be interested to learn more about this last clause. "player option" feels like the onus will be on Jeter to determine if he can still play. (or can still play enough to want $8M!)


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12-08-10, 10:18 AM (EST)
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9. "He's angry."
His quote: "throughout the years I've prided myself on keeping things out of the papers and out of the media."

My translation: 'Do you know how much time I've invested in keeping people from finding out what a delusional jerk I truly am?'

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5895013

We're about a week away from going Randal Edit.

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