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"Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself in the Foot Thigh"
seriously.

he accidentally shot himself in the leg, allegedly, at a night club saturday night.

that man seems on a downward spiral.

it's a shame because he is very talented.

non-story here

cq

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Not to mention... Estee 11-30-08 1
   unreal cqvenus 11-30-08 2
   RE: Not to mention... Glow 11-30-08 10
       RE: Not to mention... Estee 11-30-08 11
           RE: Not to mention... Glow 12-02-08 22
               RE: Not to mention... Estee 12-02-08 26
 More updates. Estee 11-30-08 3
   RE: More updates. Snidget 11-30-08 4
       RE: More updates. Estee 11-30-08 5
           RE: More updates. Snidget 11-30-08 6
               RE: More updates. vince3 11-30-08 7
 He'll be pleading Not Guilty. Estee 11-30-08 8
   RE: He'll be pleading Not Guilty. Snidget 11-30-08 9
   well... cqvenus 12-01-08 13
 RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself ... samboohoo 12-01-08 12
   RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself ... J Slice 12-01-08 15
       RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself ... samboohoo 12-02-08 20
 The legal process begins. Estee 12-01-08 14
   espn... cqvenus 12-01-08 16
       RE: espn... vince3 12-02-08 18
           RE: espn... Max Headroom 12-02-08 23
               RE: espn... vince3 12-02-08 24
                   RE: espn... PepeLePew13 12-02-08 25
                       RE: espn... Estee 12-02-08 27
 It won't make much difference cahaya 12-02-08 17
   RE: It won't make much difference PepeLePew13 12-02-08 19
       RE: It won't make much difference kingfish 12-02-08 21
           RE: It won't make much difference cahaya 12-03-08 28
 Fined, Suspended, IR'd vince3 12-03-08 29
 Released vince3 04-03-09 30
   RE: Released Estee 04-03-09 31
       RE: Released vince3 04-03-09 32
           RE: Released Glow 04-06-09 33
               RE: Released HobbsofMI 04-06-09 36
 Slow learner. Estee 04-06-09 34
   RE: Slow learner. PepeLePew13 04-06-09 35
 Indicted vince3 08-03-09 37
 Pled guilty vince3 08-20-09 38
   RE: Pled guilty HobbsofMI 08-20-09 39
 RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself ... sica077 08-20-09 40
   RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself ... PepeLePew13 09-22-09 44
 Oh, and by the Plax? vince3 08-20-09 41
 RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself ... samboohoo 09-22-09 42
   This Breezy 09-22-09 43
       RE: This kingfish 09-23-09 45
 Released. Estee 06-06-11 46
   RE: Released. vince3 06-06-11 47
       RE: Released. PepeLePew13 06-07-11 48

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Estee 55195 desperate attention whore postings
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11-30-08, 11:15 AM (EST)
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1. "Not to mention..."
Copying this over from this week's NFL complaining thread:

'It's starting to get uglier. For starters, some papers are reporting that Plaxico had been drinking alcohol before the gun went off. To ramp it up, add in the fact that Antonio Pierce was with him -- and was apparently given the gun after it went off, with instructions to dispose of it. Throw in the fact that the police were denied entry to the Burress household...

If you have a license to carry concealed and wind up shooting yourself in the thigh with your own gun, you will get a very stern lecture. If the gun wasn't registered, if you don't have the license... then the wound still has to be reported to the police. Maybe Plaxico missed those fifteen thousand episodes.

The gun may have been completely illegal. I think we're looking at a 'what permit?' situation. And Plaxico may not be a Giant for much longer.

So -- Glow, want him back? We'll pay shipping.

ETA: Yep. We are now firmly at 'What permit?': looks like Plaxico didn't have the critical license to carry the gun concealed in New York, and that means he's likely to face criminal charges. No clear word yet on whether the gun itself was legally owned. Pierce may have a court date in view for the disposal (or attempt at same) and he's likely looking at a big fine, but he probably won't face jail time.

Depending on the report you here, there was either one or two other Giants at the club when this happened, not yet identified -- but they weren't involved in the weapons disposal.

And a re-ETA: Charges will be brought against Plaxico. Maximum jail time: five years.

Antonio's lawyers are currently meeting with prosecutors, trying to find a deal that will keep him off the trial docket.'

Want a topper? The police can't seem to find him...

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11-30-08, 11:27 AM (EST)
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2. "unreal"
LAST EDITED ON 11-30-08 AT 11:28 AM (EST)

i was reading a commentary on yahoo that i whole-heartedly agree with: it seems that, while plaxico has all the accolades of someone who ought to be living at the peak of his career, instead, he seems "bent on ruining it."

he needs to get his head out of his @ss and live in the friggin NOW.

cq
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10. "RE: Not to mention..."
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11. "RE: Not to mention..."
If the Giants release him, you could have him back tomorrow.

Or tomorrow plus forty-two months.

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12-02-08, 11:32 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: Not to mention..."
Okay but can I have him if his wife releases him?

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26. "RE: Not to mention..."
Dunno. What says Mr. Glow?
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3. "More updates."
LAST EDITED ON 11-30-08 AT 12:25 PM (EST)

According to Fox's Jay Glazer, Plaxico will surrender himself to police for questioning as early as Monday, in the company of his attorney. He'd better have company, because the jail time situation is worse than it originally looked. Remember that five-year maximum? There's another end to that. Mayor Michael 'Tax The Air? I'm Saving That For My Fourth Term' Bloomberg instituted a mandatory 42-month minimum sentence for exactly this offense, applicable to any NYC-based violation.

Antonio Pierce is fully cooperating with police and helping them locate the gun, which is not yet in custody.

There was an interesting discussion on the FOX pregame show about this, headed by Michael Strahan and his very expert opinion on the Giants' gun policy. Yes, they have one. Because the players go into the city regularly and have preseason practice in the state, the team collects all weapons from the players at the start of training camp, carefully explains the city's policy, tells them it doesn't matter if they're licensed in another state if they don't have the NYC paperwork, and you can have the gun back when camp breaks. (Presumably you're supposed to use the time to get the necessary documents.) Guess that's another meeting Burress skipped. Or ignored.

Strahan has been talking to people in the franchise and his opinion is that the Giants feel Plaxico is making them look stupid. He believes they don't want to give him an outright release -- to him, the team treats people like more of a family than most franchises do -- and they'd rather help him put his life together. But if they have to, they will. And they've been pushed up against the wall. They've been trying to offer help and he keeps turning away from it: how much can they do? Fines don't work. Suspensions don't work. Heart-to-heart talks... don't even ask.

Because of the incident's nature, the Giants are free to go after Plaxico's signing bonus (as in 'Take it back. Take it all back). Maybe that could wake him up.

...probably not.

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4. "RE: More updates."
LAST EDITED ON 11-30-08 AT 12:35 PM (EST)

Yikes, they have a specific law for shooting yourself? I knew NY was a bit insane...but!

ETA: What is the penalty for shooting the illegal gun at someone else?

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11-30-08, 12:41 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: More updates."
For concealed carry of a gun, regardless of whether the weapon is licensed for home possession. There are certain things Bloomberg's holding back for his fifth term.

Oh, and just because Plaxico's timing also svcks beyond svck, guess who the Giants are playing today? The Redskins. And what are the Redskins doing? Honoring Sean Taylor and inducting him into their ring of fame.

Anyone happen to remember how Sean Taylor died?

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6. "RE: More updates."
*googles* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Taylor

Um, I don't suppose he could spin it as some sort of...ahh...er...tribute?

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7. "RE: More updates."
Um.....no.

Somehow I get the feeling that the criminal charge/jail time might be the least of his worries....... besides the Giants possibly/probably releasing his stoopid butt, Goodell will, at bare minimum call him to the league offices for questioning, and then probably pile on a suspension as well.........

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8. "He'll be pleading Not Guilty."
Because, you know, it's not as if the existence of a gunshot wound proves the existence of a gun. There could have been a bullet in his pocket. And a really big hammer.
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9. "RE: He'll be pleading Not Guilty."
Bullets fall out of the sky all the time. As long as you don't notice the GSR in his pocket or anything.
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13. "well..."
i've plead 'not guilty' for things i knew i was guilty of.

cq

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12. "RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself in the Foot Thigh"
Very interesting. Perhaps we will soon get to a point of voting for an NFL "All Thug" team instead of "All Pro."

Tis the season.


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15. "RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself in the Foot Thigh"
That team is also called "The Ravens"


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20. "RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself in the Foot Thigh"
*snort*

Tis the season.


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14. "The legal process begins."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3736356

Note that he had a concealed carry permit for Florida, but not NYC -- and the Florida one expired in May. It's also a good choice of attorney in some ways, but the media is going to pin him to the wall for it.

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16. "espn..."
... ticker during MNF says the charge carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 3.5 yrs!

i think we can stick a fork in him...

cq
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18. "RE: espn..."
*points up*

mandatory 42-month minimum sentence = 3.5 years......

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23. "RE: espn..."
Max's cynical prediction: He'll work out a plea bargain and end up with probation.


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24. "RE: espn..."
It might depend on how much cooperation Plax gives the police.......

He's kinda now in limbo, especially if the Giants get rid of him, because I don't think a team will want him if he has a trial looming sometime next year..........

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25. "RE: espn..."
That didn't stop the Cowboys from picking up Pacman Adam Jones with all the stuff hanging over his head.
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27. "RE: espn..."
Pacman didn't have King Bloomberg after him: our Fairest Mayor Of Them All is more than happy to have someone who makes less than he does to torture.

Of course, ultimately, that's pretty much everybody.

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17. "It won't make much difference"
... for the Giants whether Plax plays or not, according to Accuscore.

The increase in completion percentage targeting Kevin Boss, Domenik Hixon and Steve Smith virtually make up for the loss of Burress’ big play contribution and the Giants should be just fine without him.


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19. "RE: It won't make much difference"
Anyone remember last season when the Giants had a team cancer in Jeremy Shockey causing all kinds of problems with the team? The Giants basically told him to get lost late in the season and throughout the playoffs, and whaddaya know, the team bonded closer together and ended up winning the Super Bowl.

Who's to say that it doesn't happen again - telling a team headache to get lost, then going on to show it doesn't make a difference and they win anyway?

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21. "RE: It won't make much difference"
That explains it. This was just a ploy, Plax took it in the leg to promote team spirit. What a guy!

Too bad he didn't have enough team spirit to aim higher.

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28. "RE: It won't make much difference"
Or lower, in the foot. Or, heck, why not level with the gut.

What a legal mess for him as the team moves on. Dumb, dumb, dumb, even if he did once have a valid FL license to carry.

Ok, so maybe some of the Giants players are concerned about their security - can't blame them, either. Seems to me the team should actively help the players who indicate their choice to own or carry firearms for self-protection. Burress (and the Giants as an organization) got sloppy and he is almost certainly not alone among Giants (and other NFL) players in not being properly licensed. Dozens wouldn't surprise me. Burress got caught only because it accidentally went off.

Jail for this? I understand the reasoning behind the law (maybe gang warfare, for starters), and there's no excuse for Burress' laziness and stupidity in not recognizing the seriousness of his legal transgression. I don't think the law was drafted with the intent of prosecuting major public figures who might carry a concealed weapon without license as it was to attempt to reduce the incentive of some criminals to carry an armed weapon without license. But the law is the law, and it's going to bite.

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12-03-08, 01:35 AM (EST)
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29. "Fined, Suspended, IR'd"
Burress isn't playing any more this year.

He got suspended for 4 games. There just happens to be 4 games remaining in the regular season. The Giants also placed him on the Non-Football Related Injured Reserve, which means that even if he was able to reuperate in time for the playoffs, he won't be allowed to play.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3738905

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30. "Released"
1. The nimrod won't accept a plea agreement with jail time.

2. He wouldn't compromise when it came to the argument about paying part of his signing bonus

3. He wouldn't restructure his contract.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4040009

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31. "RE: Released"
So -- want him back?

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32. "RE: Released"
If it was just his on-field person/abilities, yes.

Total package? Nope.

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33. "RE: Released"
I? will take the total package.

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36. "RE: Released"
We know you would....and never let him leave the house....but would the Steelers? He!! no...


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34. "Slow learner."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4045389

Gee, wonder how he managed to personally meet the sheriff.

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35. "RE: Slow learner."
Five traffic tickets in one month? I'm surprised he is still able to drive his car.

Up here, the police have the right to seize your vehicle if there are enough infractions on your record.

*goes back to thinking of Ryan Moats in order to keep faith in humanity*


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37. "Indicted"
2 counts of criminial possession, and one count of reckless endangerment.....

The minimum, if convicted, is still 3.5 years...... Only now, the ADA has stated that SOP for a plea bargain of charges this serious the sentence is around 2 years..........

Ya might want to stick a fork in him..... I think he may be officially done.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4374477

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38. "Pled guilty"
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32490225/ns/sports-nfl/

He will serve two years in jail..... approximately. Plus two years of supervised release..........

Pled guilty to one count of attempted criminal possession of a weapon, lesser charge than what he was initially accused of.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4411373

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39. "RE: Pled guilty"
So you don't have to Draft him in FF?


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40. "RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself in the Foot Thigh"
Riddle me this...

How can Burress shoot himself and plead guilty for two years, but, Stallworth can kill another man while driving over the legal alcohol/speed limit and serve just 24 days? I know the stipulations, laws, and agreements that allow it, but it just doesn't make sense in my mind.

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44. "RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself in the Foot Thigh"
And Plax merely shot himself and gets 20 months while Vick got 23 months for a worse crime (in my mind) of running an extensive dog-fighting ring with drugs/gambling involved and being directly or indirectly involved in abusing, torturing and murdering dogs.
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41. "Oh, and by the Plax?"
LAST EDITED ON 08-20-09 AT 04:15 PM (EST)

ETA: should say "by the way Plax?"

You're also suspended from the NFL during your prison sentence and can't sign with a team until you get out of jail........

But as soon as you get out? You're reinstated, and can sign with a team......


This is based on that Goodell was going to suspend him for this year anyways...... so he figures that the two years or so of jail time will be more than enough.........

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42. "RE: Plaxico Burress Shoots Himself in the Foot Thigh"
main|dl1|link5|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fanhouse.com%2Fnews%2Fmain%2Fplaxico-burress-sentenced%2F525669|2 years.

He could be in 20 months. Perhaps he and Michael Vick could become pen pals.


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43. "This"
Burress hired a consultant to teach him how to use his time in prison productively.

for some reason, cracks me up.

From Yahoo story. That line isn't in your story link. Weird.

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45. "RE: This"
LAST EDITED ON 09-23-09 AT 04:27 PM (EST)

Yeah, me too. I think that is very funny.

I like Plaxico, I used him to win one season of non-OT Fantasy Football.

But think of it, how stupid can one person be?

A guy making millions, starting in the NFL (a super bowl hero, no less), a guy that has achieved Sports Nirvanna (of a sort).

And this guy
- carries a pistol (apparently without permit?). What, he has no entourage to carry his drugs and guns for him?
- Into a night club (which is surely illegal).
- The gun is tucked into his waistband (or pants pocket?). There have probably been more manhoods shot off like this than there have been Lorena Bobbit copycats.
- And shoots himself in the leg (luckily missing aforementioned manhood).

Listen, you don't just accidentally shoot yourself in the leg. The pistol has to be loaded, a round chambered (I'm guessing it was a glam weapon, an expensive automatic), the safety switched off, the hammer might have to be cocked, then the trigger has to be pulled. I'm not an expert, but I don't know of any pistol that just goes off. He was doing something with it. Either playing a tragic game of pocket pool (code), or showing off.

This guy needs guidance. Wherever he is.

Haven't read the posts in this thread yet (and I will, I will), but at the risk of taking a tangent, I have to say that 2 years prison seems a bit extreme for this. If it's federal he will have to do all of it. His main crime was making Bloomberg mad, it would appear. And being almost certifiably stupid.

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46. "Released."
Three months early for mostly-good behavior.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=6630528

Of course, his timing still svcks. Normally, he could look forward to seeing which teams would be willing to take a chance on him (several) -- but the lockout means his parole requirement to find employment may be heading for the nearest groundskeeper position.

Still -- better out than in.

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47. "RE: Released."
If he absolutely needs employment immediately, I believe both the Arena Football and Canadian Football Leagues could use someone of his talents even if only short-term...
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48. "RE: Released."
LAST EDITED ON 06-07-11 AT 07:26 AM (EST)

As a convict, he would have quite a bit of difficulty getting into Canada at all.

We don't want him up here anyway.

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