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"The fiscal cliff."
Estee 53371 desperate attention whore postings
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12-20-12, 10:30 AM (EST)
 
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"The fiscal cliff." |
1. We're going over.2. It'll be a mutual wrestle to the edge concluded with a simultaneous double push. 3. Geronimo! 
In order to save America, it was necessary to destroy -- oh, shaddap.
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12-20-12, 11:31 AM (EST)
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1. "I'm going hang gliding" |
off the fiscal cliff. Might as well have fun with it!
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12-20-12, 01:39 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: The fiscal cliff." |
LAST EDITED ON 12-20-12 AT 01:40 PM (EST)Let's be fair here: the GOP isn't particularly interested in compromise either. Did you see yesterday's press conference by the Speaker? If not, go ahead and watch it. It'll only take a minute. Or in this case, slightly less. They'll give the President anything he wants as long he promises to suicide at the end. Not being around to see people go back on their word is the most basic requirement for getting it. But at this point? I don't think either party cares what happens as long as the population blames the other one for it. Two years of guaranteed financial/actual death in exchange for total control of Congress and two more to get everything? We're well past the place where the majority of politicians would sign off on that and use the blood from the fatalities for ink. Now if America somehow happens to blame both sides...
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12-21-12, 08:28 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Plan B" |
Gotta love the Tea Party. Raise taxes by $0.01 on billionaires? No way! *throws tantrum*
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12-21-12, 11:03 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Plan B" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-21-12 AT 11:12 AM (EST)Here's the link for the Plan B chart. As cahaya's number show, everything would basically stay the same except for people making over $1 million; the changes relate to deduction changes: http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?DocID=3749 And here's the chart for the Dem plan: 
As you can see, under the Dem plan, the average increase in annual tax in the top 3 categories is: $200K to $500K: $813
$500K to $1M: $13,212
Over $1M: $134,177 In looking at those numbers, you can see why the negotiations between Obama and Boehner had been headed toward a $500K limit on the rate hike (Obama had hinted that he'd live with $400K; Boehner had hinted that he'd take $600K, and it's obvious where that was headed); the extra money raised from the $250K threshold isn't that much. The problem was that, to get Republicans to move to accept ANY hike, Boehner also needed some tangible spending cuts, and Obama simply hasn't been willing to include any. Realistically, Boehner needs Democratic votes to pass any compromise. He can't pass the compromise on Republican votes alone, because there are too many Republican reps who won't vote for any tax increase. He's well aware of that fact.
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12-28-12, 12:25 PM (EST)
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20. "Leading the lemmings." |
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/eric-bolling-encourages-swan-dive-off-fiscal-cliff-it-should-be-called-the-obama-cliff/Again: it's not about who gets hurt, it's who gets blamed for the injuries. And I'm guessing most Faux News personalities can afford $6.00 per gallon for milk. Meanwhile, Hannity is basically saying the GOP should not work with the President because in his opinion, the White House has mocked them. Well, if that's the new standard, then no Democrat has any obligation to work with a Republican ever again due to Hannity's mocking of the left. Fair's fair, right? ...we did put an age restriction on running for the actualy offices, right? Because right now, the first graders are running the show. And they aren't toilet trained.
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12-31-12, 11:19 AM (EST)
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22. "Last hours before the fall." |
So as I understand the current logic, any liberal who suffers from the upcoming collapse deserves it and any conservative will just understand this is the price for making the liberals pay and they'll bear the pain gladly.Or on the underlying level, 'We're rich. None of the price increases will bother us in the least.' Rupert Murdoch's and Rush Limbaugh's finest hour approaches. Let the natural end to ultra-partisan politics begin. Hey, Tea Party! You won!
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12-31-12, 04:02 PM (EST)
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26. "Wile E. Coyote" |
paddles the air while the Roadrunner moves an Acme trampoline to just the right spot at the bottom to break the coyote's fall, and it propels him upward again only to see him fall again and then shoot upward again and then fall again...
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12-31-12, 06:23 PM (EST)
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27. "Stocks going up" |
So half the rich people and banks figure we are going over the cliff and that means they will be able to screw over screw over the middle class and poor more than ever before.and The other half of the rich people and banks think the last minute deal will happen and that means they will be able to screw over the middle class and poor more than ever before. Did I miss anything?
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01-01-13, 10:33 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: Deadline passed." |
We'll see how the Senate deal fares in the House. That's the big question.
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01-01-13, 05:17 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: The fiscal cliff." |
LAST EDITED ON 01-01-13 AT 05:18 PM (EST)What the Senate Bill does and why the Tea Party will kill it: Extends Bush-era tax breaks on incomes up to $400,000 for individuals, $450,000 for couples. Earnings above those amounts would be taxed at a rate of 39.6%, up from the current 35%. Extends Clinton-era caps on itemized deductions and the phase-out of the personal exemption for individuals making more than $250,000 and couples earning more than $300,000.
(It's a tax raise!) Estates would be taxed at a top rate of 40%, with the first $5 million in value exempted for individual estates and $10 million for family estates. In 2012, such estates were subject to a top rate of 35%.
(It's a death tax raise!)
Taxes on capital gains and dividend income exceeding $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for families would increase from 15% to 20%.
(Hurts mythological job creators and job creation!) Permanently addresses the alternative minimum tax and indexes it for inflation to prevent nearly 30 million middle- and upper-middle income taxpayers from being hit with higher tax bills averaging almost $3,000.
(Are they trying to put tax accountants out of business? In this economy?)
Extends for five years Obama-sought expansions of the child tax credit, earned income tax credit, and an up to $2,500 tax credit for college tuition.
(Loopholes!) Extends jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed for one year.
(Nanny state!) Blocks a 27% cut in Medicare payments to doctors for one year. The cut is the product of an obsolete 1997 budget formula.
(Well, and it was flawed from the outset anyway, though an effort at fiscal responsibility, which just goes to prove there is no such animal as fiscally responsible gubment, at least not Democratic ones.) Allows a 2-percentage point cut in the payroll tax first enacted two years ago to lapse, which restores the payroll tax to 6.2%.
(Hurts small business!)
Delays for two months $109 billion worth of across-the-board spending cuts set to start striking the Pentagon and domestic agencies this week. Cost of $24 billion is divided between spending cuts and new revenues from rules changes on converting traditional individual retirement accounts into Roth IRAs.
(Not enough spending cuts!)
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01-01-13, 09:45 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: The fiscal cliff." |
The House lost their balls. They wimped out from amending in some spending cuts because they didn't have the votes, and now they're gonna vote up or down on the Senate bill. If the Senate bill is as bad as I hear it is, why don't they just grow a set and vote the damn thing down? But it seems as if they don't have the jewelry to do so.
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01-02-13, 00:00 AM (EST)
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36. "House vote" |
No changes, passes the House, many Pubs still voted no.
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01-04-13, 01:43 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Tea Party threatens "consequences"." |
Well, it's truth or consequences, and we sure won't be getting the truth from them.
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