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Gothmog 2883 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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12-11-12, 10:04 PM (EST)
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I need some advice here. I teach a course on film and literature at an all-girls school. It’s a popular course, and fun: the final project involves the students writing, producing and editing their own short (15-20 min.) film. They learn a lot about how movies are made: especially how stories are transferred from the written word (novels and screenplays) to the visual medium.The two main novels of the course are Chocolat, by Joanne Harris, and Mrs. Dalloway, by Virginia Woolf. I’m not a fan of the movie Chocolat (which obscenely sanitizes the novel), but the students like it, and it’s not terrible. The students also like The Hours, an excellent film once removed from Mrs. Dalloway. (I also like the Cunningham novel, but I want to use novels written by women.) I used to use the Color Purple, but the students largely found that to be unreadable. (Imagine: they like reading Virginia Woolf better than Alice Walker. I know, right?) I’m saddened that some of my favorite novels have been made into horrible movies (Beloved, In the Time of the Butterflies) or haven’t even been adapted (Poisonwood Bible, God of Small Things). In and around the study of these novels (and how they are turned into filmable stories), we read some short stories (and discuss their filmable qualities—some become adapted for their final project). And we watch movies—good ones—as they learn to be discerning viewers and filmmakers. And this is where I’m having trouble--because I’d like as much of the course to be women-centered as possible, and this is an industry that is still largely dominated by men. So please help me with some suggestions on potential films to show this class. Here are my criteria: 1) must be a GOOD film. I realize that definitions of “good” will naturally vary. My students, after all, still think the Twilight movies are “good.” I at least want to expand upon their narrow definition (which usually means, simply, “I liked it”) and maybe expose them to something they otherwise might not see (like The Hours, above.) 2) must be women-centered. I want a movie that does more than just pass the Bechdel test or center on a Smurfette. I want movies that tell real, engaging stories about women. 3) must have women heavily involved the creative process: as producer, director, screenwriter, or even novelist (of the work the film was adapted from, if applicable). I’d love to have all four, but there are very, very few such films, alas. 4) not rated R. This isn’t an absolute, but for every movie I show that’s rated R, I have to send home permission slips and have multiple conversations with parents. I’m not worried about the conversations (they are, surprisingly, almost always pleasant and productive) so much as the time and hassle. Better to avoid, if possible. Time frame (of when movie was made or set) and genre are flexible, as long as there’s some variance over the course of the semester. Some movies I’ve used in the past, with varying degrees of success (some of which don’t fit all of my criteria, hence my desire to expand my list), and some which I am considering: Winter’s Bone Frozen River The Trip to Bountiful The Piano (even with permission slips, I didn’t show the more graphic scenes) Les Triplettes de Belleville Whale Rider The Joy Luck Club Raise the Red Lantern Brave Sense and Sensibility Spirited Away Beasts of the Southern Wild Now it’s your turn. Comments on the above, or any suggestions to add to the list, would be most welcome.  Oh, and by the way: Hi!
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Snidget 42454 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-11-12, 10:27 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Film suggestions" |
(even with permission slips, I didn’t show the more graphic scenes)Ah that takes me back to 1st period Spanish class. End of the year, and there was some film that was supposed to be really good, and maybe the ratings are a bit different for foreign films (Mexico I think, I think it had gotten an Oscar nod for foreign film that year or the year before). Anyway most of the film was fine, but the first scene was in the parent's bedroom and while nothing was really shown, it was a bit racy for High School. I can't remember if there was any new vocabulary words (I missed them) when their lovemaking was interrupted and the man said something regarding his inability to walk at the moment and she would have to tend to their son who was yelling for them. She started the film 5 minutes in for the rest of the day. Sorry, no ideas at the moment, just reminiscing.
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Gothmog 2883 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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12-12-12, 07:43 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Persepolis (PG-13)." |
Yes! Exactly what I'm looking for! I especially like that this movie takes them out of their ethnocentrism. Another plus.I should have clarified in my OP--I already have enough films associated with novels/books. (The students can only read so much in the allotted time frame.) I also show some movies apart from their books, just to help them become more discerning viewers. So it doesn't matter that this was adapted from the graphic novel; I wouldn't use the text, in this case. Thanks for the suggestion! 
And I am one to accept graphic novels as literature, so if I need to change one of my book/films later, I'll consider the novel as well.
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Starshine 4731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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12-12-12, 05:28 AM (EST)
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4. "Two Suggestions" |
Firstly Clueless, which I found a good adaptation of Emma although it may be a bit rooted in the 1990's for your studentsand secondly Orlando It takes some liberties, but overall not a bad film of an exceptional book, although now that I think about it does it pass the Bechdel test? Well I put it out there for your consideration anyway Lovely cheese Mooney
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frodis 4439 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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12-12-12, 10:37 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Film suggestions" |
I love this question and would love taking your class. I think the hardest thing is to find films that are good, though. (Frankenstein, for starters.) There are a lot of terrible film adaptations of great literature.
What about a screenplay and film? Do you think your students would read Hiroshima Mon Amour? If they had a hard time getting through The Color Purple it might be a bit of a slog. It's short, though.
I have to think a bit. I'll be back.
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cahaya 18065 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-12-12, 11:25 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Film suggestions" |
Along the contemporary line, I might mention Beaches. It was panned by the critics, but liked by audiences. Based on a novel by Iris Rainer Dart, Mary Agnes Donoghue wrote the screenplay.
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kidflash212 3466 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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12-12-12, 11:26 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Film suggestions" |
Do you use any older films? Like All About Eve? Movie was based on a short story written by a woman and the film has strong female characters.
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Brownroach 14112 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-12-12, 10:41 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Film suggestions" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-12-12 AT 11:29 PM (EST)Favorite exchange in that movie, at the party in Bette Davis's apartment: Marilyn Monroe (as starlet Miss Caswell): Oh, waiter? George Sanders (as her date, theater critic Addison DeWitt): That's not a waiter, dear, it's a butler. MM: Well, I couldn't exactly say "butler". Someone's name might be Butler. GS: You have a point. An idiotic one, but a point. ETA: Miss Caswell wouldn't be a role model for the purposes of your class.
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MNgirl 206 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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12-12-12, 02:29 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Film suggestions" |
Have you shown The Triplets of Belleville in the past? I vote for that. My dad watched it, loved it, gave it to me to watch, I loved it. I then showed it to my DD and niece, both 20 now, around 18 when we first watched it. They both loved it. Funny thing is, they didn't love it at first. It takes a while for people that grew up on Disney and Pixar animation to get used to the very different style. But, both of them ended up being rather fascinated with it. I bought my own copy of it and they both ended up buying the digital downloads for their laptops.
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dabo 24112 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-13-12, 02:06 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: Film suggestions" |
My recollection of the film (which I only watched once when it was originally broadcast) is that it is pretty good. It is, of course, a TV film, paced for commercial breaks, limited on time, and limited by the broadcast standards of the time -- in other words, the book is better.Not one of your style and vogue "Twilight" films, which I personally have found somewhat tedious and dull after the first one. Still, Maya herself had a voice in translating her very personal autobiographical novel to film, which speaks for itself.
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WyoGuy44 34 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-12-12, 07:55 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Film suggestions" |
I like Whale Rider and Julie and Julia. Yes guys can like these movies.
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WyoGuy44 34 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-12-12, 11:09 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Film suggestions" |
I got my carp basket many years ago. I'd like a new one though. Mine rotted
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WyoGuy44 34 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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12-12-12, 08:02 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Film suggestions" |
I like that movie too. I'm a sucker for Julia Roberts
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LeftPinky 4147 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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12-17-12, 00:52 AM (EST)
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50. "RE: Film suggestions" |
Along the same lines - Norma Rae (Sally Field), but I'm not sure if it was a book first. My daughter's class has used Sarah's Key, The Help and Pride & Prejudice (I like the 5 hour version of the movie, but there are others).
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Starshine 4731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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12-13-12, 08:48 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: Film suggestions" |
I was thinking Tea with Mussolini or Calendar Girls however I'm not sure that they would really work for youAnd then I remembered Notes from a scandal from a book by Zoe Heller and although the driving motivation is sex (IMO) I still think it would be interesting. Lovely cheese Mooney
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Brownroach 14112 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-13-12, 10:21 AM (EST)
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37. "RE: Film suggestions" |
Oh! -- You reminded me of An Education, based on a memoir by journalist Lynn Barber. A sort of coming-of-age story, with a brilliant performance by Carey Mulligan as the young lady who learns a few life lessons.
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kidflash212 3466 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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12-13-12, 10:24 AM (EST)
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38. "RE: Film suggestions" |
Isn't the plot of Notes From A Scandal centered around a teacher who has an affair with a student? I could see some parental objections there.
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Starshine 4731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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12-13-12, 12:03 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Film suggestions" |
Well it's more centred around the (non sexual) relationship between two female teachers one of whom is having an affair with a student, but that is a good point.
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Brownroach 14112 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-14-12, 02:07 AM (EST)
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41. "RE: Film suggestions" |
IIRC, the Judi Dench character was a closeted lesbian who, we learned, had repeatedly insinuated herself into the lives of young attractive female teachers, as she did with the Cate Blanchett character, who was incredibly obtuse to not figure out what was going on. It seemed like a throwback to late 1950's-early 1960's movies about repressed sexuality, IMO.
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12-15-12, 12:36 PM (EST)
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48. "White Oleander" |
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283139/It's a film adapted from the book and it's a wonderful book. It was so good that as soon as I finished, I turned back to page one and read it again. Astrid Magnussen is a 15 year old girl, living in California. Her mother, Ingrid, is a beautiful, free-spirited poet. Their life, though unusual, is satisfying until one day, a man named Barry Kolker (that her mother refers to at first as "The goat man") comes into their lives, and Ingrid falls madly in love with him, only to have her heart broken, and her life ruined. For revenge, Ingrid murders Barry with the deadly poison of her favourite flower: The White Oleander. She is sent to prison for life, and Astrid has to go through foster home after foster home. Throughout nearly a decade she experiences forbidden love, religion, near-death experiences, drugs, starvation, and how it feels to be loved. But throughout these years, she keeps in touch with her mother via letters to prison. And while Ingrid's gift is to give Astrid the power to survive, Astrid's gift is to teach her Mother about love. The film stars Michelle Pfieffer and Renee Zellweiger (sp?) and while it doesn't match the intensity of the book, it's still wonderful and it's rated PG-13!
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