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"ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Have you voted yet?


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 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... kidflash212 11-05-12 1
   RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Starshine 11-05-12 4
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... foonermints 11-05-12 2
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Estee 11-05-12 3
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Karchita 11-05-12 5
 Just a Reminder dabo 11-05-12 6
   RE: Just a Reminder Round Robin 11-06-12 13
   RE: Just a Reminder kidflash212 11-06-12 15
       RE: Just a Reminder jbug 11-06-12 29
       RE: Just a Reminder dabo 11-06-12 34
           RE: Just a Reminder Round Robin 11-06-12 61
               RE: Just a Reminder dabo 11-06-12 63
                   RE: Just a Reminder cahaya 11-06-12 70
                       RE: Just a Reminder Snidget 11-06-12 78
                           RE: Just a Reminder cahaya 11-06-12 84
                               RE: Just a Reminder Snidget 11-06-12 85
                                   RE: Just a Reminder cahaya 11-06-12 90
                               RE: Just a Reminder Round Robin 11-06-12 86
                               RE: Just a Reminder Estee 11-06-12 89
                       RE: Just a Reminder dabo 11-06-12 127
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Estee 11-05-12 7
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Snidget 11-05-12 8
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... AyaK 11-05-12 9
 By The Numbers dabo 11-05-12 10
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Max Headroom 11-05-12 11
 The Polls dabo 11-06-12 12
 Voting VisionQuest 11-06-12 14
 His and Hers Election Snidget 11-06-12 16
   RE: His and Hers Election kidflash212 11-06-12 20
 Early, Early Results... kidflash212 11-06-12 17
   In that case... Estee 11-06-12 18
       RE: In that case... kidflash212 11-06-12 19
 NC Voting Report Bebo 11-06-12 21
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... HobbsofMI 11-06-12 22
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... AyaK 11-06-12 23
   RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... cahaya 11-06-12 60
       RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Round Robin 11-06-12 62
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... thndrkttn 11-06-12 24
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Estee 11-06-12 25
   RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Snidget 11-06-12 36
       RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Estee 11-06-12 45
           RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Snidget 11-06-12 48
               RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Estee 11-06-12 53
                   RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Snidget 11-06-12 56
                       RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Estee 11-06-12 57
                       RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Bebo 11-07-12 217
                           RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Snidget 11-07-12 222
 In church? cahaya 11-06-12 26
   RE: In church? Estee 11-06-12 27
       RE: In church? AyaK 11-06-12 28
           RE: In church? jbug 11-06-12 31
               RE: In church? Snidget 11-06-12 35
                   RE: In church? CTgirl 11-06-12 39
                       RE: In church? cahaya 11-06-12 47
                           RE: In church? Estee 11-06-12 51
                           RE: In church? AyaK 11-06-12 52
                               RE: In church? Estee 11-06-12 65
                           RE: In church? Bebo 11-07-12 216
   RE: In church? Molaholic 11-06-12 30
   RE: In church? HobbsofMI 11-06-12 38
   RE: In church? taffnic 11-06-12 54
 What does your voting location/boot... jbug 11-06-12 32
   RE: What does your voting location/... weltek 11-06-12 69
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... kidflash212 11-06-12 33
   RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... kidflash212 11-06-12 46
 the govs dabo 11-06-12 37
   RE: the govs AyaK 11-06-12 42
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Puffy 11-06-12 40
   RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Snidget 11-06-12 41
       No Sticker for foonermint! foonermints 11-06-12 43
 Hopefully she voted bewteen the con... Snidget 11-06-12 44
 Projections (to watch tonight) AyaK 11-06-12 49
   RE: Projections (to watch tonight) cahaya 11-06-12 64
       RE: Projections (to watch tonight) Round Robin 11-06-12 71
           RE: Projections (to watch tonight) cahaya 11-06-12 73
       RE: Projections (to watch tonight) AyaK 11-06-12 77
           RE: Projections (to watch tonight) cahaya 11-06-12 87
           RE: Projections (to watch tonight) kidflash212 11-07-12 135
               RE: Projections (to watch tonight) cahaya 11-07-12 140
               RE: Projections (to watch tonight) Karchita 11-07-12 166
                   RE: Projections (to watch tonight) cahaya 11-11-12 233
       Silver's projection results... cahaya 11-07-12 178
           Yep AyaK 11-07-12 182
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... samboohoo 11-06-12 50
 Romney continues to campaign in PA. Estee 11-06-12 55
   RE: Romney continues to campaign in... kidflash212 11-06-12 58
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... dabo 11-06-12 59
 And It Begins dabo 11-06-12 66
 It's Over foonermints 11-06-12 67
 Add On? dabo 11-06-12 68
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Jims02 11-06-12 72
   RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Max Headroom 11-06-12 74
       RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... cahaya 11-06-12 75
           RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... AyaK 11-06-12 76
       RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... samboohoo 11-06-12 80
           RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... dabo 11-06-12 83
               RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... cahaya 11-06-12 94
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... kingfish 11-06-12 79
   RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... foonermints 11-06-12 82
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... PepeLePew13 11-06-12 81
   San Francisco? foonermints 11-06-12 88
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... CTgirl 11-06-12 91
   RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... foonermints 11-06-12 92
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Estee 11-06-12 93
   RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... PepeLePew13 11-06-12 96
       RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Estee 11-06-12 97
           RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... PepeLePew13 11-06-12 100
               Current battlegrounds tally as of 9... PepeLePew13 11-06-12 104
               RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... cahaya 11-06-12 106
 New Jersey: uncallable. Estee 11-06-12 95
 precincts changed? jbug 11-06-12 98
   RE: precincts changed? Snidget 11-06-12 101
   RE: precincts changed? DearAbby 11-06-12 102
   RE: precincts changed? Puffy 11-07-12 151
 BONG BONG BONGGGG dabo 11-06-12 99
   RE: BONG BONG BONGGGG dabo 11-06-12 111
   RE: BONG BONG BONGGGG dabo 11-06-12 120
 CT Senate kidflash212 11-06-12 103
 Currently projected as 114 -- 153 f... Estee 11-06-12 105
   Update as of 9:30 ET PepeLePew13 11-06-12 107
       GOP regains control of the House PepeLePew13 11-06-12 108
       RE: Update as of 9:30 ET cahaya 11-06-12 110
           RE: Update as of 9:30 ET Snidget 11-06-12 114
       10:00 pm ET update... PepeLePew13 11-06-12 115
           CNN currently projects... PepeLePew13 11-06-12 116
       RE: Update as of 9:30 ET michel 11-06-12 119
 Brown Out, Warren In kidflash212 11-06-12 109
   RE: Brown Out, Warren In HobbsofMI 11-07-12 141
 Donnelly projected to win IND kidflash212 11-06-12 112
   RE: Donnelly projected to win IND dabo 11-06-12 113
       RE: Donnelly projected to win IND cahaya 11-06-12 118
           RE: Donnelly projected to win IND Snidget 11-06-12 121
           RE: Donnelly projected to win IND Estee 11-06-12 124
               RE: Donnelly projected to win IND cahaya 11-07-12 128
               RE: Donnelly projected to win IND dabo 11-07-12 130
                   RE: Donnelly projected to win IND cahaya 11-07-12 206
                       RE: Donnelly projected to win IND Estee 11-07-12 207
                       RE: Donnelly projected to win IND Max Headroom 11-07-12 225
 Voted and was able to buy a case of... VisionQuest 11-06-12 117
 Let me say it first! Estee 11-06-12 122
   RE: Let me say it first! cahaya 11-06-12 123
       RE: Let me say it first! Estee 11-06-12 126
           RE: Let me say it first! cahaya 11-07-12 131
 10:45 pm update... PepeLePew13 11-06-12 125
   Latest update ... 11:20 pm ET PepeLePew13 11-07-12 133
 Switching coverage. Estee 11-07-12 129
   RE: Switching coverage. Snidget 11-07-12 170
       RE: Switching coverage. Estee 11-07-12 171
 No caffeine permitted. Estee 11-07-12 132
   RE: No caffeine permitted. cahaya 11-07-12 146
       RE: No caffeine permitted. Tummy 11-07-12 184
 It's Over kidflash212 11-07-12 134
   RE: It's Over Brownroach 11-07-12 136
       RE: It's Over kidflash212 11-07-12 138
       RE: It's Over byoffer 11-07-12 139
           RE: It's Over Brownroach 11-07-12 148
       RE: It's Over PepeLePew13 11-07-12 143
           RE: It's Over dabo 11-07-12 154
               Popular Vote kidflash212 11-07-12 176
                   RE: Popular Vote Estee 11-07-12 177
                   RE: Popular Vote cahaya 11-07-12 180
               RE: It's Over mrc 11-07-12 179
   Not yet. Estee 11-07-12 137
       RE: Not yet. Brownroach 11-07-12 142
           He's already lost. Estee 11-07-12 173
               RE: He's already lost. PepeLePew13 11-07-12 174
                   RE: He's already lost. AyaK 11-07-12 181
                       Hate to say it, but... Estee 11-07-12 185
                       RE: He's already lost. PepeLePew13 11-07-12 188
                           RE: He's already lost. AyaK 11-07-12 189
                           RE: He's already lost. Estee 11-07-12 190
       RE: Not yet. cahaya 11-07-12 144
           RE: Not yet. Estee 11-07-12 145
               RE: Not yet. AyaK 11-07-12 213
 Colbert's watchwords. Estee 11-07-12 147
 Legalized it. Estee 11-07-12 149
   RE: Legalized it. cahaya 11-07-12 152
       RE: Legalized it. AyaK 11-07-12 187
           RE: Legalized it. cahaya 11-07-12 191
 The Ryan Effect. Estee 11-07-12 150
   RE: The Ryan Effect. cahaya 11-07-12 153
   RE: The Ryan Effect. Karchita 11-07-12 167
 The L.A. mandatory condom law. Estee 11-07-12 155
   RE: The L.A. mandatory condom law. dabo 11-07-12 156
       RE: The L.A. mandatory condom law. cahaya 11-07-12 157
 Gay Marriage kidflash212 11-07-12 158
   RE: Gay Marriage cahaya 11-07-12 160
       RE: Gay Marriage dabo 11-07-12 161
       RE: Gay Marriage Brownroach 11-07-12 164
           RE: Gay Marriage cahaya 11-07-12 165
   And the best part? Estee 11-07-12 172
       RE: And the best part? AyaK 11-07-12 192
           Self-education is bad. Estee 11-07-12 193
 Mitt Concedes kidflash212 11-07-12 159
   RE: Mitt Concedes cahaya 11-07-12 162
       RE: Mitt Concedes Tummy 11-07-12 186
           Running mate? AyaK 11-07-12 198
 Past one in the morning... cahaya 11-07-12 163
   RE: Past one in the morning... Karchita 11-07-12 168
 Experience with U.S. Democrats... PepeLePew13 11-07-12 169
 Donald calls for the mass shooting ... Estee 11-07-12 175
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... Molaholic 11-07-12 183
 51st state? dabo 11-07-12 194
   Correct AyaK 11-07-12 195
       First two words to mind: Estee 11-07-12 199
           Quick answers AyaK 11-07-12 209
               RE: Quick answers Estee 11-07-12 211
               RE: Quick answers Karchita 11-07-12 219
           RE: First two words to mind: dabo 11-07-12 210
               RE: First two words to mind: Estee 11-07-12 212
                   RE: First two words to mind: AyaK 11-07-12 214
                       RE: First two words to mind: Estee 11-07-12 215
                           RE: First two words to mind: AyaK 11-07-12 218
                   RE: First two words to mind: dabo 11-07-12 220
   RE: 51st state? cahaya 11-07-12 196
 Karl Rove loses it, live! Estee 11-07-12 197
   RE: Karl Rove loses it, live! cahaya 11-07-12 202
       RE: Karl Rove loses it, live! Estee 11-07-12 203
           RE: Karl Rove loses it, live! cahaya 11-07-12 204
               RE: Karl Rove loses it, live! cahaya 11-07-12 208
   RE: Karl Rove loses it, live! Sagebrush Dan 11-07-12 205
 Election cahaya 11-07-12 200
 RE: ECST: Election Day - November ... MNgirl 11-07-12 201
 A note on Linda McMahon. Estee 11-07-12 221
   But she's rare, a rich person . . . AyaK 11-07-12 223
 Libertarian = Republican ? AyaK 11-07-12 224
   RE: Libertarian = Republican ? Karchita 11-08-12 226
       RE: Libertarian = Republican ? AyaK 11-11-12 231
           RE: Libertarian = Republican ? Karchita 11-12-12 234
               RE: Libertarian = Republican ? Round Robin 11-13-12 235
               RE: Libertarian = Republican ? AyaK 12-06-12 250
 Better Late than Never kidflash212 11-10-12 227
 Is she really that clueless Snidget 11-10-12 228
   Is he really that clueless? Snidget 11-10-12 229
       RE: Is he really that clueless? cahaya 11-11-12 230
       Yup! Silvergirl1 11-11-12 232
 Woman runs over husband for not vot... PepeLePew13 11-13-12 236
   Would the tire marks on his stomach IceCat 11-13-12 237
       RE: Would the tire marks on his sto... PepeLePew13 11-13-12 238
   Good news! Estee 11-13-12 239
 Abusing the Electoral College Snidget 11-21-12 240
   RE: Abusing the Electoral College dabo 11-21-12 241
       RE: Abusing the Electoral College AyaK 11-21-12 243
           RE: Abusing the Electoral College dabo 11-21-12 244
           RE: Abusing the Electoral College Estee 11-21-12 245
           RE: Abusing the Electoral College Snidget 11-21-12 247
               RE: Abusing the Electoral College dabo 11-21-12 248
       RE: Abusing the Electoral College Snidget 11-21-12 246
   RE: Abusing the Electoral College Estee 11-21-12 242
 The Democrats claim two more GOP em... Estee 12-05-12 249

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11-05-12, 05:52 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
LAST EDITED ON 11-05-12 AT 05:58 PM (EST)

Little early isn't it?

ETA - Found this story on the side of the page a little odd. A bookie is already paying out bets on Obama winning?

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/bookie-ends-bet-on-presidential-election-1031560.php

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11-05-12, 06:22 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Paddy Powe2er have a bit of a record of paying out early.

Good luck finding an open bookies to pay your ticket, and tomorrow morning they are either prescient or don't have to pay.

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11-05-12, 06:09 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Yep.
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11-05-12, 06:12 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
You're just trying to keep me from following through on the threat of reusing that Gilda 'HATE' campaign poster.

(To be continued.)

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11-05-12, 06:25 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
I voted O and Joe two weeks ago.


And the champagne is chilling.

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11-05-12, 06:30 PM (EST)
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6. "Just a Reminder"
Stock up on booze tonight so you'll be ready for the drinking game(s) as soon as the polls start closing.


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11-06-12, 05:18 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Just a Reminder"
I ain't stockin' up on no GD booze. If I do and them 2 commies get elected again, I'll want to drink myself into a stupor.
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15. "RE: Just a Reminder"
Unless you live in South Carolina or Kentucky - where it's illegal to buy alcohol on Election Day.
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11-06-12, 11:36 AM (EST)
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29. "RE: Just a Reminder"
Our little grocery store has a sign on the door:
No beer sales on Tues Nov 6 due to Election Day.
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34. "RE: Just a Reminder"
Here too, thought it was pretty much everywhere, why I posted the reminder yesterday.
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61. "RE: Just a Reminder"
Not sure what the current law is in PA, but it used to be the law here that you couldn't get alcoholic drink before 9PM on election day unless the place had a Sunday license, in which case it could open for normal hours.

BTW, I voted.

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63. "RE: Just a Reminder"
In Indiana and Illinois (where I lived before coming here) the law simply is no liquor sales on Election Day until the polls close. I'm pretty certain the businessmen can still have their three martini lunches, though.
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70. "RE: Just a Reminder"
I know this was true last election, but here in Indiana they must have changed the law.

I noticed Big Red was open on the way home from work and picked up a small bottle of Drambuie to have a few sips of for the evening's festivities!


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78. "RE: Just a Reminder"
I've got some Shock Top Pumpkin Wheat Ale, I don't think I can face the coverage without some reinforcing.

The question is what channel to watch. Do I go for accuracy, pathos or amusement value?

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84. "RE: Just a Reminder"
I've always followed it on CNN, dating back to when I was Malaysia and it was the only network available overseas to follow it closely. I still follow it on CNN although I'm not a huge Wolf Blitzer fan. The analysis is sometimes interesting, but sometimes I think they (like the other networks) also fall into the trap of over-analysis.
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85. "RE: Just a Reminder"
So far sticking with CNN, tried a bit of MSNBC and Foxnews but couldn't take it. And I like looking at Anderson Cooper. I may do a tour through the networks as well.
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90. "RE: Just a Reminder"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 09:49 PM (EST)

Cooper's my fav of the CNN crew, too!

It seems that Blitzer has been doing this for ages, so I always tended to associate election coverage with him.

(eta) And I like the CNN online coverage, with up-to-minute vote totals and immediate projections. This is the vote totals & CNN projections page with a "live" map. You can also move into the Senate, House and Gov tabs to check on your state's races, or select ALL with your state and check all of the state-wide elections.

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86. "RE: Just a Reminder"
I have 3 TV's in my living room, all on election stuff, FOX, CNBC, and ABC.
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89. "RE: Just a Reminder"
I generally don't go there (despite what some may think), but I'm on MSDemBC right now.

I have to hold my nose when they go to Sharpton.

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127. "RE: Just a Reminder"
Found this article.

http://tribstar.com/local/x691732199/Indiana-voters-can-buy-alcohol-after-voting-this-year

Odd, they did that everywhere I lived in Illinois, I guess those must have been local prohibitions.

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7. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
My loss of vehicle forced me to cancel a hair trimming appointment I had today. Which is actually a good thing, because when the urge to tear my hair out comes around tomorrow night, there's nothing wrong with establishing a lower initial grip.

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8. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Voted Friday, one of the early voting places is around the corner from the Coop where I pick up my CSA veggies (last box of the year, *sob*)

Took about an hour, the weather was nice, so standing outside wasn't bad. Surprised how many of the local candidates were out talking to people in the line. One of them even brought mints (the candy kind, not the fooner kind).

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9. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
I live in one of the states that doesn't permit early voting except with a verifiable reason, which I lost when I declined to work the polls all day for Scott Brown (which I had originally planned to do, but just couldn't manage with my current client schedule).

I'm planning on trying to vote when the polls open tomorrow. I'll report in after that.

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10. "By The Numbers"
435 U.S. House races

270 Electoral College votes required to win presidency and vice presidency

51 Electoral College contests to decide president/vice president race

33 U.S. Senate races

11 state gubernatorial races

1 statehood referendum

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11. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Voted the Friday before last, all part of the plan as I'm out of state until Wednesday night.
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12. "The Polls"
Did you shudder? Did you cringe? Did you cry out, "Oh, no, not more polls!"? Don't worry, this isn't about those polls.

Aside: Been polled I don't know how many times the last month or so, just for yucks I've been answering undecided as often as possible.

Anyway, FYI, these are the times that polls (voting) close in the various constituancies, not allowing for extended polling times as needed in various places. For states that cover more than one time zone, where voting concludes later in the west than in the east, the time is given for the west. All times are all in Eastern Standard Time, convert to your own time as needed.

States with more than one time zone: Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, Michigan (portion of upper penninsula), North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Idaho, Oregon, Alaska. And away we go!

4:00 PM - Puerto Rico

7:00 PM - Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vermont, Virginia

7:30 PM - North Carolina, Ohio, West Virginia

8:00 PM - Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Illinois, Maine, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee

8:30 PM - Arkansas

9:00 PM - Arizona, Colorado, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, South Dakota, Texas, Wisconsin, Wyoming

10:00 PM - Iowa, Montana, Nevada, Utah

11:00 PM - California, Hawaii, Idaho, Oregon, Washington

1:00 AM - Alaska

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14. "Voting"
Will hit up the polls on my way home from work - about 4:30.


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16. "His and Hers Election"
Just saw a report on the local 24 hour news channel

http://triad.news14.com/content/669256/charlotte-couple-a-political-house-divided

I wonder how long they'll be able to watch the returns together.

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20. "RE: His and Hers Election"

It can work.


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17. "Early, Early Results..."
Dixville Notch, NH (the traditional first in the nation voters) was a tie 5 votes Romney, 5 votes Obama.

Harts Location (who want the first in the nation title for themselves) went for Obama - 23 votes to 9 for Romney and 1 for Gary Johnson.

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18. "In that case..."
*calls race for Gary Johnson*
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19. "RE: In that case..."
Nah - it's New Hampshire. That kind of vote counting only happens in Florida and Ohio.
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21. "NC Voting Report"
Hubby got to the polls just before 7, and it was a total zoo. Took almost 2 hours to get to vote.

I'm hoping to go mid-morning, but I do have the ace up my sleeve that I am eligible to vote curbside and avoid standing in line forever.

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22. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
50 people in line when I got there 15 minutes to 7 am. They were adding tables for people to vote, we use scan trons, cause they only had 4 to begin with. Most seemed to be there for all our ballot and Mayor recall from the talk in line.


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23. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
We use an optical scanner with about 25 "booths" set up for people to mark their scanned ballot. All the tables were full at 7:15, even though there wasn't that much on the ballot. More interestingly, the optical scanner then broke down. The people at the polls had to call the town clerk to decide what to do, so we had a line of about 60 waiting to turn their ballots in. We ended up putting the unscanned ballots -- and the scanned ballots -- in a red cooler bag, and the clerk was going to have the scanner reset and rescan everything from ballot one.

I'm just glad that I don't live in a place with electronic voting machines!

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60. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 03:41 PM (EST)

I was surprised to see a return to the paper ballot with boxes to X in or check in or fill in (your pick, although the instructions were not entirely clear on this, indicating "mark the box").

The ballots are then put into a scanner where it is deposited in a sealed container below the scanner.

I went with a mixed party ballot, although I've already made clear here who are a few of my preferences at the national and state level. There is at least one woman in almost every state district and local district contest, and I think there were more women than men up for election at this level! I also voted one Libertarian who actually took the initiative to go out and personally canvas votes door-to-door, on Halloween night at that! I'm happy with my well-informed votes, leaving a few blank (e.g., some school district seats) because I knew too little about either candidate to make an informed decision.

(eta)

I'm just glad that I don't live in a place with electronic voting machines!

Me too!

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62. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
I voted all GOP except for state AG, where the Repub was hand picked by our governor, who I hate because of his handling of the Jerry Sandusky case. In a word, Corbett is a hypocrite, and I trust neither him nor anybody he hand picks.
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24. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
DH voted two weeks ago and I voted this morning. Got there at 6:20 and got out about an hour later. My whole team has voted and oddly enough, we all voted the same direction. All nine of us.
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25. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
I voted commie.

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36. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Must be easier to get them on the ballot in NJ. Here they can't get enough signatures, so never make it that far.
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45. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
We had about a dozen alternate parties, including International Workers, Constitutionist, Green, and Gary Johnson's ID -- Libertarian.

At least they know they got one vote.

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48. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Other than the libertarians I don't think anyone else can muster what it takes to even be an official write in candidate.

I always thought the purpose of write in candidates is you can vote for who you want, but I think we had only two official write ins and only for governor here.

I don't think they can stop you from writing in other things, but they sure as heck ain't gonna count it.

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53. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Just to clear this up: none of those alternates were write-ins. I had a push-button machine and each mentioned party (plus a bunch of others) had a button of its own. If you wanted to write someone in, you typed in their name on the two-strip keyboard and then hit Enter.
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56. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Oh, I'm clear that you get them on the real ballot.

I was just lamenting that even if we can't get them on the real ballot, here in NC we can't even write them in.

I don't know if any other state has a more effective way of keeping all the others off the ballot.

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57. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Oh, I'm clear that you get them on the real ballot.

I thought our Floridians might have been confused.

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217. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
>I was just lamenting that even
>if we can't get them
>on the real ballot, here
>in NC we can't even
>write them in.

Snidge, here in Wake County, we were able to write-in for the Soil and Water Conservation board.

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222. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Oooooo, they let the public loose with that much power?
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26. "In church?"
For the first time, my polling place is actually in a church, First United Church. And I wondered, why is a polling place in a church, of all places, especially considering that there are many other facilities available in the area where I voted before? And why the change in polling places?

I will go vote there during lunch hour.

If anyone asks why I cast the ballot that I did, I'll plead divine intervention. Or the devil made me do it.

Op-ed about using houses of worship as polling places.

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27. "RE: In church?"
why is a polling place in a church, of all places

Without reading the op-ed piece: attempted induction of guilt for anyone thinking about 'going against Christian values'.

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28. "RE: In church?"
In Lexington, MA, we closed the schools for a day so that we can use all the school buildings as polling places. I'm not sure if you can do that in places where the schools aren't run by the local government.

When I lived in Ohio, in a town where Barack Obama spoke (in my old high school gym) Saturday night, I voted in a Catholic high school, so I'm not sure that's much different.

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31. "RE: In church?"
can't speak for all of TN, but our county schools are closed as they are used for voting.
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35. "RE: In church?"
In Missouri I remember voting being at the schools, but I don't recall them ever closing school. But that was then, now they probably worry about having too many of the general public wandering around where the kiddies are.

Here I've voted at a volunteer fire house (when I lived out in the countryside) and in town it has either been at the one of two different community center type buildings. Not sure why they switched from one to the other, and I'm not sure what the other voting places in town are (the library and one of the court buildings are the early voting places)

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39. "RE: In church?"
Its often a parking issue - if there is no school, the teachers aren't there, leaving the parking for the voters.
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47. "RE: In church?"
The elementary and high schools here are closed for election day, and some of them are being used as polling places. There are other venues that are available and were used previously. My previous polling place was in fact a gym.

I'd like to present this question a different way...

What would Christian (and other) voters think if the polling place is a mosque (or even a synagogue or Buddhist temple)? There's a large mosque here in this university town that I'm sure would have ample space in one of its several large halls. I would imagine some fundamentalist Christian Republicans who would refuse to set foot in a mosque.

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51. "RE: In church?"
But why would anyone object to voting for the President in his own house of faith?

You're making me want to set this up just so I can listen to the screams.

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52. "RE: In church?"
I saw conservative Christian Republicans saying that they'd crawl through broken glass to vote against Obama. Voting in a mosque can't be worse than that.
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65. "RE: In church?"
But that's tearing up your body versus endangering your immortal soul.

Leslie.

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216. "RE: In church?"
In my county, the traditional calendar students had Election Day off, while year-round schools opened 2 hours late.

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30. "RE: In church?"
I've voted at one church or another (actually the meeting hall next door, but church property) every election since 1988. Before that it was a series of private homes. I'll get to the polls around 4:30 -- after work.


BTW, those here in L.A. -- if you've been listening to KNX radio, the live reports coming in from Cypress Park are coming from my school. Newsvan is parked in front of the auditorium. I noticed a crowd of about 25-30 people at 7:00.

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38. "RE: In church?"
My polling place is in a church and I think many in Troy are. Big, open and don't disrupt schools and their lunch rooms. I know Royal Oak's are all in school lunch rooms and the kids eat in their class room that day and there is no hot lunch.


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54. "RE: In church?"
My polling place has been at a church for the last 3 times. I voted about 9am and the wait wasn't too long.


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32. "What does your voting location/booth look like?"
We vote in the school cafeteria; go to one table; then to another table. Then to the booth to vote.
We don't have curtains around our booths. (I noticed on the news this morning when Biden voted that he had a curtain). But then we usually only have about 4 or 5 booths so there is plenty of space to spread them out.
We have electronic booths (I guess that is what they're called). Push the little square button next to the candidate of your choice.
Then at the end, confirm.

(I remember when we had the little pin to push into the hole remember 'chads' ? )

Haven't been yet; will have to wait till after work.
One of the bosses went just a bit ago. Said the wait wasn't too long; a good crowd (as he called it).

I'll pick up DH as soon as I get off; will take his wheelchair in case we have to wait long as he can't stand for more than 10 minutes or so without his legs giving out on him.

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69. "RE: What does your voting location/booth look like?"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 05:19 PM (EST)

We vote in a town of about 600, at the town hall. It's about a 12x8 room. There is one electronic machine and three curtained booths. It's rare to have more than six people in line at one time.

I was surprised to see about 20 cars there this morning, so we decided to wait until after work, as we both had early meetings to get to.

ETA: There are never stickers.


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33. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
On the way to work now and will vote on the way. A blue vote in a blue state.



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46. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Waited in line over an hour and when I finally got to the table, the two poll workers argued for three minutes over whether I was voter #293 or #294. Finally voted and got to work.
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37. "the govs"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 02:46 PM (EST)

Delaware - D. Markell i, R. Cragg

Indiana - D. Gregg, R. Pence, (R. Daniels retiring)

Missouri - D. Nixon i, R. Spence

Montana - D. Bullock, R. Hill, (D. Schweitzer retiring)

New Hampshire - D. Hassan, R. Lamontagne, (D. Lynch retiring)

North Carolina - D. Dalton, R. McCrory, (D. Perdue retiring)

North Dakota - D. Tyler, R. Dalrymple i

Utah - D. Cooke, R. Herbert i

Vermont - D. Shumlin i, R. Brock

Washington - D. Inslee, R. McKenna, (D. Gregoire retiring)

West Virginia - D. Tomblin i, R. Maloney, (rematch!)

edited to correct NC

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42. "RE: the govs"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 01:24 PM (EST)

I wish the Senate races were this easy. Really, there's only one of these in dispute, and I expect the Dems to steal win it (just like usual in Washington state; see Gregoire-Rossi).

Delaware - D. Markell i

Indiana - R. Pence

Missouri - D. Nixon i

Montana - R. Hill

New Hampshire - D. Hassan

North Carolina - R. McCrory

North Dakota - R. Dalrymple i

Utah - R. Herbert i

Vermont - D. Shumlin i

Washington - D. Insole

West Virginia - D. Tomblin i

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40. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
We just returned from voting. All your posts of massive lines and waits made me nervous about timing issues. Not one single voter was there when we arrived. One neighbor showed up when I was voting so we chatted a little bit. When I asked about lines earlier this morning, the poll workers said, "Oh, we had people wait! At one time we had EIGHT people in line!"

Our polling place serves about 500 homes. Where we vote depends on the turnout expected. Usually we vote in someone's garage. When it's a smaller election, more precincts are combined so we vote at a school (which doesn't close down) or at a church (never had a problem with voting in a church).

I like to wait to vote until the day of the election. I'm wearing my "I voted" sticker. It's all about the sticker.


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41. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
They've addressed the sticker issue here. I got a "I Voted Early" sticker to wear. It's bigger and rounder than the usual "I Voted" sticker.
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43. "No Sticker for foonermint!"
I checked the mail-in envelope. Nothing.

OK, so yours is bigger.

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44. "Hopefully she voted bewteen the contractions"
Wouldn't want to accidentally hit the wrong button..

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Pregnant-Woman-Votes-En-Route-To-Hospital-177482731.html

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49. "Projections (to watch tonight)"
Here's how the campaigns see this race. You can look at these states as they come in and see which are different than expected to see who is winning and losing.

CONSENSUS:
Obama (19): California, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, Michigan, Washington, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Maryland, Oregon, Connecticut, Nevada, New Mexico, Maine, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Delaware, Vermont, District of Columbia. 223 electoral votes.
Romney (24): Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Indiana, Arizona, Missouri, Alabama, South Carolina, Louisiana, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas, Mississippi, Utah, Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Alaska. 206 electoral votes.

That leaves 8 states disputed, which each campaign at least hopes to win:

Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, Florida, Colorado. 109 electoral votes.

The Obama campaign thinks Pennsylvania is a lock and that Florida and Colorado are stretches, but it thinks it can win them all.
The Romney campaign feels that Florida and Colorado are locks and that Pennsylvania is a stretch, but it thinks it can win them all.

We'll see.

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64. "RE: Projections (to watch tonight)"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 04:44 PM (EST)

Nate Silver (you know who he is) predicts a 313/225 outcome with Romney's chances of winning now at less than 10%. The telling part of the "poll of polls" table is all of the +% for Obama in the Change From Prior Poll column for almost all of the pollsters.

Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, Florida, Colorado. 109 electoral votes.

Silver has (by state, and percentage odds of winning):

PA firmly Obama, 98.6%
WI firmly Obama, 96.7%
NH leaning Obama, 84.6%
IA leaning Obama, 84.3%
OH firmly Obama, 90.6%
VA leaning Obama, 79.4%
FL tossup Obama, 50.3%
CO leaning Obama, 79.7%

Add also NC leaning Romney, 74.4%

(eta)

After playing around with CNN's interactive electoral college vote tracker...

Romney would need to win NC-15 (leaning his way) and FL-29 (a toss up) to reach 246 electoral votes and then scoop up 24 more electoral votes out of the "leaning Obama" states (NH-4, IA-6, VA-13 and CO-9).

In this scenario, an electoral college vote tie is still possible with Romney also taking NH, IA and VA, losing CO, leaving both candidates with 269. Highly unlikely, but still within the realm of possibility.

If the race is that close, then Romney will have to ensure that Nebraska does not split its electors and award one to Obama as it did in 2008. Obama will have to ensure that Maine does not award an elector to Romney, as well. Maine and Nebraska are the only states to award electors based on the results in individual congressional districts.


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71. "RE: Projections (to watch tonight)"
Nate Silver is as full of sh!t as a Thanksgiving turkey. He supposedly goes by the results of state by state polls without any effort to determine how accurate they are likely to be. All the national polls are very close, so to suggest that an Obama victory is a near certainty, as he does, is utterly absurd.
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73. "RE: Projections (to watch tonight)"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 06:26 PM (EST)

A little early for Thanksgiving, aren't we, hah! I prefer my bird to be stuffed with real stuffing, like my mom makes.

I tracked Nate Silver even before the last election in 2008 and there is definitely method to his madness in his attempt to create a more accurate predictive model. He relies on the results of multiple polls and then weighs them according to their own past predictive accuracy and consistency with other polls. He even shows us the stats for these multitude of polls and the changes in these pollster numbers from the previous poll. Obviously, as a statistician, more garbage in doesn't mean less garbage out, but he's able to differentiate between the garbage "outlier" polls from those that are more consistent and have a good track record, but he doesn't toss them out completely. Different polls have different sampling methods, different questions, different media, so it's to be expected that polls won't exactly match, or even be within their own sampling error ranges.

No, Nate Silver got 49 out of 50 states correct last election and while that's a hard act to follow (only a perfect prediction is better), I wouldn't be surprised if he got at least 45 states correct, possibly repeating the predictive feat of last election.

Out of a dozen polls, only two show Romney with a very slim popular vote advantage well within sampling error margins (a "dead heat") and Obama is running +2.0 to +4.0 in most of them. And all but one of these polls show Obama's numbers increasing since their last poll. Rasmussen Reports is the outlier here. And what matters is not the nationwide popular vote, it's the electoral college votes, where it's absolutely necessary to get state-level poll data.

And 90% (Obama's chance of winning) isn't near certainty, even statisticians aren't comfortable with that number when it comes to confidence levels.

Ever roll a 20-sided die playing fantasy games? Who knows, Romney might get lucky and roll a 7 or 11 (out of 20 on a single die). It happens.


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77. "RE: Projections (to watch tonight)"
I only have two words to say about Nate Silver:

Matt Wieters.

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87. "RE: Projections (to watch tonight)"
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-12 AT 04:10 AM (EST)

Never heard of the guy, had to look him up, and no, I don't follow baseball and baseball statistics, not in the least (unlike the NFL).

I found a good article that tied the two (Silver and Wieters) together that you might find interesting reading.

Yet, even highly sophisticated baseball models can still make mistakes if they rest on mistaken assumptions. Baseball Prospectus.com’s PECOTA player projection system – designed by Nate Silver and his colleagues at BP – is one of the best state-of-the-art systems in the business. But one of PECOTA’s more recent, well-known failures presents an object lesson. In 2009, PECOTA projected rookie Orioles catcher Matt Wieters to hit .311/.395/.546 (batting/on base percentage/slugging). As regular consumers of PECOTA know, this is just a probabilistic projection of his most likely performance, and the actual projection provided a range of possible outcomes. But the projection clearly was wrong, and not just unsuccessful. While Wieters has developed into a good player, nothing in his major league performance since has justfied such optimism: Wieters hit .288/.340/.412 as a rookie, and .260/.328/.421 over his first four major league seasons. What went wrong? ... By getting the baseline of the 2008 environment Wieters played in wrong, PECOTA got the projection wrong, a projection that was out of step with what other models were much more realistically projecting at the time. The sophistication of the PECOTA system was no match for two bad inputs in the historical data.

And, in context of this election, you probably agree with the article's author...

We can’t know until Election Day who is right. I stand by my view that Obama is losing independent voters decisively, because the national and state polls both support that thesis. I stand by my view that Republican turnout will be up significantly from recent-historic lows in 2008 in the key swing states (Ohio, Wisconsin, Colorado) and nationally, because the post-2008 elections, the party registration data, the early-voting and absentee-ballot numbers, and the Rasmussen and Gallup national party-ID surveys (both of which have solid track records) all point to this conclusion. I stand by my view that no countervailing evidence outside of poll samples shows a similar surge above 2008 levels in Democratic voter turnout, as would be needed to offset Romney’s advantage with independents and increased GOP voter turnout. And I stand by the view that a mechanical reading of polling averages is an inadequate basis to project an event unprecedented in American history: the re-election of a sitting president without a clear-cut victory in the national popular vote.

We'll see if Rasmussen (and to some extent, Gallup) is indeed for real, or an outlier relative to the other dozen or so pollsters.

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135. "RE: Projections (to watch tonight)"
Nate Silver has been almost spot on all night.
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140. "RE: Projections (to watch tonight)"
Yup. I see only one potential miscall so far, with 49 out of 50 predictions possibly repeated. If anything, with so many states within 1%-3% actual voting margins, I think his biggest miscall is not having enough slightly leaning races, which is not surprising.
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166. "RE: Projections (to watch tonight)"
Yes, indeed he has. He is amazing.


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233. "RE: Projections (to watch tonight)"
And with this, at last days later, Obama's win in Florida, which Silver predicted as a very narrow toss-up in Obama's favor. Silver nails it, 50 for 50. Just wow.

Carving the turkey.

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178. "Silver's projection results..."
PA firmly Obama, 98.6%. Correct, with 5% margin.
WI firmly Obama, 96.7%. Correct, with 6% margin.
NH leaning Obama, 84.6%. Correct, with 5% margin.
IA leaning Obama, 84.3%. Correct, with 6% margin.
OH firmly Obama, 90.6%. Correct, but closer than projected with 2% margin.
VA leaning Obama, 79.4%. Correct, with 3% margin.
FL tossup Obama, 50.3%. Correct, still a toss up.
CO leaning Obama, 79.7%. Correct, with 4% margin.
Add also NC leaning Romney, 74.4%. Correct, with 3% margin.

Two words: Barack Obama.

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182. "Yep"
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-12 AT 10:50 AM (EST)

The fact that Obama ran the table on the toss-up states makes the outcome pretty clear, doesn't it?

One of the things that Mark Blumenthal had argued was that Pew is the best pollster out there and that its end count is as close to accurate of a poll as we can get.

Pew's final poll on Monday showed Obama winning 51%-48%, with undecideds breaking evenly.

They were off by about 1%. Blumenthal was right.

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50. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Our schools are closed today. We use the schools here. I think we use a variety of buildings. I can remember voting in a church before. I think some people may even vote at the fire station? I can't remember now.

I had a parent/teacher conference and then went over to the high school after. There was a bit of a line, but the whole process took about 20 minutes. We had about 15 booths. We use pen and paper and bubble in like a scan-tron then feed it into one of two machines. I was Number 1022. I assume 1022 overall, but I wonder if it means 1022 at that machine. I went later than normal. I usually go before work, but since I'm off today I waited until about 11:30. It was starting to get more crowded as I left. Lunchtime I suppose.


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55. "Romney continues to campaign in PA."
'And I say my opponent's failure to do the same is just another indicator of how much he hates this country!'
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58. "RE: Romney continues to campaign in PA."
We'll know tomorrow if he is campaigning there because he'd like a higher Electorl tally or out of desperation as Ohio doesn't look winnable to his campaign any longer.
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59. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 02:43 PM (EST)

Just got back from voting. Song on the radio as I got there was, appropriately..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J01QPxZFlw4

A real feel good toe-tapper dancing song, with a great bass line, I'll give it a 98.

Anyway, hope my vote for Donnelly keeps Mourdock out of the Senate, and my neighbor Mann goes to Indy and maybe then I won't get his mail misdelivered here anymore. As for the governor's race, rather have Gregg but both candidates put forth forward-looking agenda's, and at least Pence is no longer part of the problem in DC. I mean, he can't be the same jerk as an administrator as he was as a legislator, can he?

Anyway, voted at a school but they never bother to close it. When we lived in Macomb we voted at a religious services building on campus.

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66. "And It Begins"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 04:38 PM (EST)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/poll-problems-cropping-places-country-article-1.1197447

I especially like: The Florida robocall glitch occurred in Pinellas County, location of St. Petersburg and Tampa Bay. Officials said the calls intended for Monday were wrongly recycled Tuesday, telling possibly thousands of voters they had until "7 p.m. tomorrow" to vote...

And on page 2 they get around to provisional ballots. Even though provisonal ballots basically end up not getting counted, it takes some time to not count them.

the judge overseeing the case planned a ruling before Nov. 17, when provisional ballots can begin to be counted in Ohio. Provisional ballots are used more often in Ohio than in most states, with experts predicting between 200,000 and 300,000 will be cast there.

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67. "It's Over"
Bob says Romney is a lead-pipe cinch.


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68. "Add On?"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 05:04 PM (EST)

Almost 5 AST, polls closing in Puerto Rico. Will they vote for statehood? Never have before.

The referendum has two parts, is change in the wind anyway?

Part one of the question is whether to keep the relationship with the US as is or change. If change it goes to part two where the voting choices are

Statehood

Independence

Sovereign Free Association (basically a long process toward independence)

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72. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
I cast my overly-important Ohio vote today.

...Then I went home and threw up 4 times during the day. The weird thing is I didn't feel that lousy while waiting in line that morning. Just a little nauseous, but still functional.

I think my body hates democracy.


Or at least my body disapproves of the vote my brain made.

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74. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
I was in Ohio earlier today. Wish I could've voted there, instead of in Indiana where my vote was far, far less relevant for the presidential race.
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75. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 06:31 PM (EST)

But it's quite relevant, even crucial for the Senate race here, and it's crucial even in determining the future Senate majority. AyaK is understandably quite miffed at the Pub's blown opportunity here to secure a Senate seat, which should have been a no-brainer (apart from fielding a no-brain candidate).

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76. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
I agree. To be honest, despite my party affiliation, I'd rather not have Richard Mourdock in the Senate.

Indiana has had a reputation for serious, moderate senators for decades, dating back to Birch Bayh and continuing to the present. Sure, a few dopes have snuck in (see Quayle, Dan), but by and large, there haven't been too many Mourdocks. From 1998 to 2010, you had Evan Bayh and Richard Lugar.

Now you'll have Dan Coats and the winner of this race. Quite a drop.

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80. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
I don't know Max. NBC is showing Indiana to Romney. Wasn't it blue in 08?


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83. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 08:25 PM (EST)

Indiana is a red state, turning blue in '08 was an indicator that the McCain/Palin campaign was just that bad.

For all that, it was close in '08, we didn't know what the Indiana results were in the presidential race until the next day when we got up.

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94. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 09:06 PM (EST)

Yes, 2008 was a nail-biter, by less than 30,000 votes:

Democratic Barack Obama 1,374,039
Republican John McCain 1,345,648

Yeah, Indiana went red in '40 and voted blue only once -- in '64 (LBJ over "nuke 'em until they glow in the dark" Goldwater) -- until 2008.

(eta) And I still have a gold-foiled Goldwater mint-condition campaign matchbook that my mom gave me (as a seven year-older) to keep as a long-term souvenir of that election.

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79. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Voted this morning, have decided that the election process is just an excuse to get me into a church.

Found a lull where I could get parked, get thru a short checkin line, and out in about 20 minutes.

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82. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
The Pope is watching, you know.
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81. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
*waits for the exit poll results for the Middle-Aged Women Who Owns Chihuahuas And Have Raccoons Living Under The Porch category*
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88. "San Francisco?"
Not Venice, that's for sure.
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91. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
I just got back from voting - my entire town of 28,000 votes at the high school and it was like Field of Dreams driving in. I thought I'd be there forever. But the parking was the worst part, once we were in, I waited for two people in front of me to check in and then I got my ballot.

Two things made me wonder about fraud though:

1. Since we had just moved to this state, I registered to vote in MA by mail, totally anonymously. I was never asked to show any ID or proof of residency at the polls. In CT, you always have to show your license before you can vote. Anyone could walk in and say they were someone else and get a ballot.

2. They gave us the wrong precinct ballot. I didn't realize it because being newbies to town, I wasn't fully aware of the people running in the local elections. The electronic scanner machine spit it out and wouldn't take it. So this old lady marches us across the gym to the check-in table, grabs our old ballots and gives us new ones. She said she'd void it out but maybe this is the new way to vote early and vote often!

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92. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
I bet your piano could vote.
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93. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
So far, every state has been called for Romney except Vermont.

Poor lonely Vermont.

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96. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
In a blink of an eye, it's gone from 33-3 for Romney to 64-40 for Obama in the early calls. Florida (43% of the polls in so far), Ohio (8%) and Virginia (13%) are all still up in the air with Obama leading in FL/OH and Romney in VA at the moment.
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97. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Maddow has it as 64 to 82 with Romney leading.

What I find interesting is that Romney is projected to have lost his home state. I guess they just didn't know who he was any more.

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100. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
Not a surprise as Romney's going to chew up the mid-central states while the key battleground states are still very much up in the air. New York hasn't been called for Obama yet, so there's a big chunk of votes.

Currnet key battlegrounds tally, as of 8:25 pm:

OH - 20% - Obama 59%, Romney 41%
FL - 51% - Obama 50%, Romney 50% (only 6,500 votes separating these two after 4.3+ million counted)
VA - 22% - Romney 57%, Obama 42%

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104. "Current battlegrounds tally as of 9:05 pm ET"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 10:10 PM (EST)

OH - 27% - Obama 55%, Romney 44%
FL - 72% - Obama 50%, Romney 49% (14,000+ difference out of 6.3 million votes)
VA - 38% - Romney 54%, Obama 45%

And with most of the Central time zone states now called, including Texas all the way up to Wyoming and the Dakotas, Romney currently leads in electoral college votes by a 152-123 margin. The three big battleground states above counts for 60 votes while we still have the west coast states counting for 74 votes (not incl. AK and HI).

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106. "RE: ECST: Election Day - November 6, 2012"
And let's not forget NC, too.

As of now, with...

71% in from FL, it's very close, Obama by less than 3,000 votes out of more than 6 million cast.

61% in from NC, it's also very close, Romney by less than 4,000 votes out of more then 2.5 million cast.

38% in from VA, Romney has a 9% edge, and if he keeps that up, it'll be called soon after half or more of the votes are in.

27% in from OH, Obama has an 11% edge, and if he keeps that up, it'll be called sometime after half or more of the votes are in.

Still not nearly enough votes in from PA (2%) or NH (11%) to have an idea how they will go.

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95. "New Jersey: uncallable."
Since portions of the voting system are apparently being held together by spit and bailing wire instead of the usual bribes and graft, the Not So Official Media Word is that the state may not be awarded to anyone until -- Friday.

Sorry 'bout that.

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98. "precincts changed?"
Anyone have a problem going to your regular place to vote only to be told you have to go to a different place?

My aunt went to the school where we go - she has for years;
they told her she'd have to go to the next town over - about 12 miles west of us.
While I was there, another lady was told she had to go somewhere else. She was mad; carrying on that it was just a way to get people to give up and not vote.

I don't know why they have to change the lines for the precincts but when they do, shouldn't they notify those affected?

If I had gotten to the polls real early to get a first place in line, and waited a half hr or more (which I have done in the past); and was then told I had to go somewhere else....
I would have been mad.

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101. "RE: precincts changed?"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 09:40 PM (EST)

Usually there is a way to check ahead of time, and I do think they have to publish the info somewhere but I don't know if they send a letter to everyone.

I dunno how much has to do with redistricting, but they way they gerrymander things I'm shocked more people don't end up in a different precinct every election cycle.

This looks like what I use in NC to check where to vote each time it comes around.

https://tnmap.tn.gov/voterlookup/

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102. "RE: precincts changed?"
Your aunt should have gotten a new card in July. Did she vote in the August primary?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49679214

Voters' new registration cards were mailed in July, and Mullis-Morgan said there weren't too many problems in elections in the August state primary and county general elections. But election officials say the shifted lines are a "big concern" for Tuesday.

"We see people turn out for presidential elections who never vote any other time," said Allen.

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151. "RE: precincts changed?"
Our official sample ballot and voting instructions booklet that we mark and bring to the voting booth lists the address of our voting location. It varies, depending if it's a local election or a primary or Presidential election.
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99. "BONG BONG BONGGGG"
Living here in one of the bellwether counties, in fact the bellwether county with the best track record in the country for predicting the results of presidential races, I've been following the local results as they came in. All 87 precincts have now reported. These aren't the final numbers that will be certified, as provisional ballots and absentee ballots have to be processed, but for the time being these are the numbers from Vigo.

(R) Mitt Romney (and Paul Ryan): 18312

(D) Barack Obama (and Joe Biden): 18474

(L) Gary Johnson (and James P. Gray): 711

49% Obama with a very slight lead over Romney at 49%. What's it mean? It's gonna be a long night, this could even be one of those elections where one side wins the popular vote while the other side wins the EC vote.


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111. "RE: BONG BONG BONGGGG"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 10:50 PM (EST)

LOL

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266275-obama-narrowly-wins-bellwether-indiana-county

The obviously don't know Vigo

Vigo County, Ind., a small county
well, smaller than Marion or Lake counties anyway

in the southeastern Indiana county
um, westcentral and bordering Illinois

culturally conservative, blue-collar county
actually, no, culturally diverse, got some institutions of higher edicashun hereabout just ask Larry Bird, birthplace of the coke bottle, home of Clabber Girl, etc and so on

Amazing how many things they just got so wrong.

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120. "RE: BONG BONG BONGGGG"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 11:35 PM (EST)

Update, revised numbers as absentee ballots are processed.

(R) Mitt Romney (and Paul Ryan): 19229

(D) Barack Obama (and Joe Biden): 19553

(L) Gary Johnson (and James P. Gray): 762

Provisional ballot, all of which will probably not count anyway, have to await decisions that won't be made tonight.

There are probably very few of them anyway.

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103. "CT Senate"
Chris Murphy(D) defeats Linda McMahon(R)


Capn2patch put me in motion!

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105. "Currently projected as 114 -- 153 for GOP."
The Republicans are projected to keep a very solid lock on the House. Lots of voter suppression story reviews coming out of Ohio. (By hook or by crook? Why not both?) Democrats potentially starting to get a bare grip on the Senate, but not in numbers which can prevent another 300+ GOP fillibusters.

So basically, no matter who wins, probably ain't nothin' gonna get done except by executive order. And those are always wrong as long as the other guy wrote them.

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107. "Update as of 9:30 ET"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 10:45 PM (EST)

Battleground states:

CO - 47% - Obama 51-47
FL - 82% - Obama 50-49
IA - 0%
NV - 0%
NH - 16% - Obama 55-44
NC - 77% - Romney 51-48
OH - 38% - Obama 53-46
VA - 52% - Romney 51-47
WI - 4% - Romney 56-43

Thanks, cahaya! I've added in NC to the battlegrounds tally since there seems to be a dogfight there as well.

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108. "GOP regains control of the House"
... according to CNN.
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110. "RE: Update as of 9:30 ET"
And although NC wasn't identified as a battleground state, it's turning out to be one with 77% - Romney 51-48
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114. "RE: Update as of 9:30 ET"
Most of the campaigning indicates NC was a battleground state. Obama took it in 2008. They certainly spent money here like it was a battleground state.
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115. "10:00 pm ET update..."
Getting tight...

CO - 50% - Obama 51-48
FL - 85% - Obama 50-49
IA - 0%
NV - 0%
NH - 21% - Obama 54-43
NC - 83% - Romney 51-48
OH - 47% - Obama 51-47
VA - 62% - Romney 51-47
WI - 12% - Romney 53-46

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116. "CNN currently projects..."
Barack Obama to be reelected as President.
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119. "RE: Update as of 9:30 ET"
From CBS:


CO - uncalled
FL - 1000 vote difference on about 7.5 Mil counted!
IA - Leaning Obama
NV - Leaning Obama
NH - Obama wins
NC - Romney leads
OH - Leaning Obama
VA - Romney leads
WI - Obama wins

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109. "Brown Out, Warren In"
Democrats take the Mass Senate seat from Republicans
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141. "RE: Brown Out, Warren In"
This makes it a really bad night for Ayak.


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112. "Donnelly projected to win IND"
Mourdock loses the seat
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113. "RE: Donnelly projected to win IND"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwESraWEpSU
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118. "RE: Donnelly projected to win IND"
You said it! Yay! Mourdock-R, fails majorly for the discerning Hoosier voters (including me, dabo and I think Max too), with Donnelly-D in.

Meanwhile, Pence-R will take the Gov seat and Romney-R wins handily, following the Hoosier tradition of voting Pub for prez except in '64 and '08.

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121. "RE: Donnelly projected to win IND"
Thank you Indiana. I dunno if I could take 6 years of Mourdock out-takes from C-SPAN.
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124. "RE: Donnelly projected to win IND"
The initial numbers made it look closer to fails barely, and the final margin might still fall into the automatic recount zone. He didn't alienate most of his voter base. We're at the point where he could have been drinking a baby's blood at a press conference and he's still the Republican in the race, so what's one baby? At least he let that baby be born before he ate it!

I'm not calling this one for the Democrats until the paperwork stops flying.

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128. "RE: Donnelly projected to win IND"
Yes, it's close, but probably not within recount territory (but I wouldn't be surprised a ton of TP money is poured into getting a recount in some districts). Considering the state voted solidly Pub for prez and gov, it's a major fail for the Pubs to lose the Senate seat once held by Lugar, one of the dying breed of moderate aisle-crossing Pubs.
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130. "RE: Donnelly projected to win IND"
We should probably add up the numbers to find out how many people who voted in Indiana simply did not cast a vote in the Senate race. That may be the biggest factor that made the difference, that Republicans who vote straight tickets, no way they vote for anyone else, and conservative independents simply withheld their vote when it came to Mourdock.

Fun for another day.

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206. "RE: Donnelly projected to win IND"
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-12 AT 02:02 PM (EST)

Following up about your comment about the numbers, this tells the story...

Romney: 1,408,008
Obama: 1,135,556

Donnelly: 1,263,138
Mourdock: 1,123,137

This means that 157,289 voters who (most likely) chose a President didn't vote for a Senate candidate.

And 140,001 voters who didn't vote for Obama (most likely voted for Romney instead) voted for Donnelly.

It's possible these numbers aren't exact because it's possible for people to choose to vote for Senate but not for President.

It's clear that some people simply didn't choose a Senate candidate and it's clear that some people voted across party lines to get rid of Mourdock.

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207. "RE: Donnelly projected to win IND"
Talk about voting with your feet... so we're looking at people who couldn't bring themselves to go that far to the right, but also couldn't shift even an inch towards the left. In this case, that's a saving number -- but it's also a scary one. We're looking at the Never Compromise faction.
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225. "RE: Donnelly projected to win IND"
it's clear that some people voted across party lines to get rid of Mourdock.

*raises hand*

The only Democrat who got my vote this election was Joe Donnelly. I should've voted for Tony Bennett's opponent too, but enough other Indiana voters covered me for that mistake.

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117. "Voted and was able to buy a case of beer."
so I have that going for me.
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122. "Let me say it first!"
Recount!

(I wish that was a joke. I think we're going to get calls for it in several states, and there's a few where the margin will make it mandatory. Waterboard the numbers until they confess.)

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123. "RE: Let me say it first!"
Yes, we're looking at serious recount potential in FL (oh, gawd, not again), VA, NC and possibly even OH. And those are just the ones with 2/3 of the votes already in.
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126. "RE: Let me say it first!"
And then it comes down to who can lose the most ballots and the total number of judges willing to stay bought.

Or in other words: Congratulations, President Romney.

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131. "RE: Let me say it first!"
Oh, not so fast, there's a precedent for the Supremes to play a song for the political dance.
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125. "10:45 pm update..."
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 11:47 PM (EST)

CO - 65% - Obama 51-47
FL - 88% - Obama 50-49
IA - 31% - Obama 57-42
NV - 0%
NH - OBAMA WIN
NC - 95% - Romney 50-49
OH - 64% - Obama 50-48
VA - 75% - Romney 50-49
WI - 29% - Romney 51-48

Sheesh, just look at how close they all are, and it's still early in Iowa, give it time to tighten up like all of the other battlegrounds.

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133. "Latest update ... 11:20 pm ET"
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Obama 274, Romney 201 ... CNN projects Obama win for the Presidency

CO - 68% - Obama 51-47
FL - 90% - Obama 50-49
IA - Obama win
NV - 1% - Romney 64-34
NC - Romney win
OH - Obama win
VA - 78% - Romney 50-49
WI - Obama win

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129. "Switching coverage."
Daily Show

The facts were starting to gang up.

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170. "RE: Switching coverage."
So, will you let me move to "That's Not Funny, Jon"?
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171. "RE: Switching coverage."
I wasn't aware I was blocking you.

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132. "No caffeine permitted."
Perhaps in the spirit of Romney's faith, the Tea Party is getting its rear kicked. GOP candidates are holding the House, but a number of Toilet Paper extremists are losing their races. As Jon Stewart just noted, Todd Akin has now been, in his words, 'legitimately raped'. And he's not the only TP suffering a bad case of paper layer failure. There's a lot of crap dropping out tonight. And they will respond by? Getting larger and smellier pieces of crap, then sending them out in two years.

Maybe they should secede. I hear Cuba's nice this time of year.

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146. "RE: No caffeine permitted."
Cuba?

The TP's should have expatriated to Puerto Rico, dumped their hundreds of millions of dollars of political money there, passed the PR ballot for independence, and created a nation-state of their own in a tropical and heavenly New World paradise.

Igniting the terrorist PR Liberation Front in an incessant battle of indigenous peoples versus the religiously chauvinist moneyed immigrants.

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184. "RE: No caffeine permitted."
Don't do that to Puerto Rico! PR is beautiful, it would be a shame to TP it.
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134. "It's Over"
President Obama is re-elected
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136. "RE: It's Over"
At present it looks like Romney won the popular vote by a million or so. Commentators are saying an incumbent has not previously been reelected while losing the popular vote (have no idea if that fact is correct).
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138. "RE: It's Over"
Romney and Al Gore can go commiserate about that over a few beers at a local pub.
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139. "RE: It's Over"
I guess the key is "incumbent", because didn't GW Bush lose the popular vote in his first election? Then again, some will argue he didn't actually win the election!
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148. "RE: It's Over"
Yes, on that occasion W wasn't incumbent, he was in-coming. (And now I am remembering, unfortunately, the overgenerously-applied lipstick of FL Secretary of State Katherine Harris -- I think that was her name, I'm too lazy to look it up.)
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143. "RE: It's Over"
California's only got about 20 percent of their votes in so far, so it could still end up being in favour of Obama overall for the popular vote. He's just 220,000 votes behind Romney at the moment with 63 percent of the nation accounted for.
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154. "RE: It's Over"
Even if he edges ahead of Romney in the popular vote, Obama could still end up a minority president by not reaching 50% of the popular vote, factoring in Johnson and other third party candidates. Lincoln 1860 was a minority president.
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176. "Popular Vote"
Looks like Obama will also win the popular vote with about 50%.
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177. "RE: Popular Vote"
That just means Donald now wants his people to kill the majority of the country.
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180. "RE: Popular Vote"
Yes, at the moment, it appears that Obama took the popular vote with about a 2.63 million vote margin out of 118.63 million votes cast.
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179. "RE: It's Over"
The 1800s witnessed a number of minority presidents.

A Slice of Manga

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137. "Not yet."
Romney has to concede. And that? Could take a while.

Should the President win, then Jon Stewart summed it up well: two years, billions of dollars, same #$%^ing place we were in when this started. The GOP will make it their mission to see any second term fail and hope to ride the ashes in 2016. No legislation will pass. Nothing will get done. And the economy will recover or fail on its own.

On the other hand, four years of nothing happening in D.C. could be the best news this country ever had.

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142. "RE: Not yet."
Chris Christie should be happy. Now he needs to work on a weight-loss regimen in time for 2016.
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173. "He's already lost."
Don't forget: he committed the ultimate sin. He reached across the aisle in a time of need and openly thanked those who gave him aid. He put people ahead of party. And there will be a hard core who will never forgive him for that.

However (and I'm serious about this), the SOB came that much closer to picking up my vote. I still don't like some of his politics. But he's proven that in the battle of his state versus his career, the state comes first. That's rare enough that I just might want to keep it.

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174. "RE: He's already lost."
Agree. I never cared all that much for Christie before the storm, but the way he spoke and the way he was able to work with Obama while putting partisanship aside, that really made me take notice.

Hopefully the same bipartisan spirit rules the day over the next four years as we all really need to quit throwing up roadblocks and other crap simply because the other person is on the other side of the political spectrum ... let's just get the right bills and right laws passed to make all of our lives better. In Canada, some of the most productive sessions of Parliament came about because of a minority government requiring two sides to work together to get things done.

I'll be disappointed if the Republicans decide to stick it (so to speak) to Obama and the Democrats by not getting anything done in Congress.

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181. "RE: He's already lost."
in Massachusetts, Scott Brown, who was a Republican who voted with the Democrats often enough that the Tea Party had turned on him, lost to one of the most partisan, polarizing figures in the country, Elizabeth Warren, whose idea of compromise is "do it my way."

And you have hopes that things are going to improve in Washington? When you have a President who rammed through Obamacare on a straight party-line vote (60-40) and incoming senators like Warren, while losing senators like Lugar? You have to be kidding.

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185. "Hate to say it, but..."
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-12 AT 11:38 AM (EST)

...agreed. We're in for at least two more years of gridlock and more likely four. The only way anything gets done in the current climate is for one party to control legislative and executive simultaneously. Anything else is Induce Failure For Future Profit.

ETA: And you're providing support for my belief that Christie's lost part of his party. I'm not sure he can get it back.

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188. "RE: He's already lost."
You're absolutely correct about that, but I've never seen a more divisive country and it's time for the folks in Washington to find a way to work together for the betterment of the country.
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189. "RE: He's already lost."
It's also time for there to be world peace and universal respect for human rights throughout the world.

But look at the landscape. Not only are governments like Iran and North Korea not going anywhere, but moderates like Olympia Snowe, Scott Brown, Ben Nelson, Richard Lugar and Kay Bailey Hutchinson will all LEAVE the Senate at the end of this term, while radicals like Elizabeth Warren and Ted Cruz will join.

Frankly, we have more hope of resolving the fiscal cliff (for at least two more years) in the lame-duck session than we do in January.

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190. "RE: He's already lost."
Last night's Daily Show skit with a holographic George Washington suggested the country was on the verge of civil war. George was just thankful it had taken this long.

Jon didn't have the heart to tell him.

He took the slave vs. merman race badly enough.

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144. "RE: Not yet."
No kidding, we're in for another four years of a do-nothing Congress, with the previous Congress being the least productive (in terms of bills passed vs bills proposed) in decades.

2016, however, looks real murky in light (or lack of it) of this election, with the current trend in political polarization.

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145. "RE: Not yet."
It could theoretically be two years, but America would have to be supremely pissed off to swing the House to the Democrats. Just too many seats needing to change rears in one shot.
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213. "RE: Not yet."
Or, considering that there are 20 Democratic seats up for grabs to only 13 Republican ones, voters could make the Senate Republican in 2014. That is, providing the Republicans don't run any more Angle-O'Donnell-Buck-Mourdock-Akin types, which seems unlikely going by the track record.
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147. "Colbert's watchwords."
1. Impeach!
2. We lost because we weren't conservative enough!
3. Why did we ever nominate a stinking Masshole moderate!
4. *sobbing*
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149. "Legalized it."
If the current voting percentages hold, then by sunrise tomorrow, recreational marijuana will be crime-free in Colorado, Oregon, and Washington.

That'll create a few jobs in and of itself. Mostly in rehab centers.

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152. "RE: Legalized it."
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Most of the provisions include taxation that will cover drug education and rehab, with a percentage of taxation dedicated toward the purpose.

I'm kind of surprised, given that the Netherlands is already tightening up their tourist "coffee shop" trade to locals and neighboring countries (effective by the end of this year), with required cards and ID. The EU as a whole hasn't been too pleased with Dutch laxity with soft recreational drugs, although tourists love it.

This is going to pit the US states against the Feds quite directly and it may well come down to court cases, possibly at the SCOTUS level, to determine who has the authority to criminalize or legalize taxed recreational/medical drug use.

(eta) I'm in favor of legalization, simply because of the economics of supply and demand. People will demand it, legally or illegally. I think it's better the cash go into the coffers of legal suppliers and taxation entities than into the armed Cartel coffers with growers cultivating tons and tons of illegal crops on American soil within national forests and other areas that cannot be effectively policed.

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187. "RE: Legalized it."
>This is going to pit the US states against the Feds
>quite directly and it may well come down to court
>cases, possibly at the SCOTUS level, to determine who has
>the authority to criminalize or
>legalize taxed recreational/medical drug use.

SCOTUS has already decided this issue in favor of the Feds. See Gonzalez v. Raich.

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191. "RE: Legalized it."
Yes, but will SCOTUS revisit it if it comes to them again? I have to agree with the dissenting opinion, in particular Thomas, that invoking the interstate commerce clause was a bit of a stretch.
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150. "The Ryan Effect."
So the state which proudly gave us the man dubbed Mr. Right:

A. Went into the Democrat column for the presidential race.
B. Elected a Democrat senator.
B1. Who happened to be an open lesbian.

I smell a backlash.

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153. "RE: The Ryan Effect."
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Dammit, it's about people forgetting what those Judeo-Christian Western Civilization values are.

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167. "RE: The Ryan Effect."
I heard that even his own county, where his family has been prominent for generations, voted for Obama. Awkward!

His district did re-elect him to the House.

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155. "The L.A. mandatory condom law."
I started a thread on this when it was first proposed: condom use on all adult film sets, enforced by random inspection on up. It's on the ballot. If it passes, I expect a huge number of lawsuits and a mass relocation to San Diego, along with the happy declaration of Freedom @#$%s.

I do expect it to pass. Puritans, y'know.

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156. "RE: The L.A. mandatory condom law."
I predict long lines of applicants to be inspectors.
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157. "RE: The L.A. mandatory condom law."
And we need video camera evidence, lots of it.
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158. "Gay Marriage"
It's early and not official but it looks like all four marriage equality referendums have passed.
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160. "RE: Gay Marriage"
It's an interesting referendum election with these projections so far...

Same-sex marriage: MA yes, MD yes, MN ban split, WA yes.

Limit Obamacare: AL yes, FL yes, MO yes, WY yes.

Legalize marijuana: AK medical no, CO recreational yes, MA medical yes, MT ban yes, OR recreational no, WA recreational yes.

Death penalty ban: CA yes.

Public funds for abortion: FL no.

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161. "RE: Gay Marriage"
About time. One thing I was disappointed about (among many) was that Obama/Biden never made it clear their support of gay marriage was about the legal contract of marriage, an actual government concern, which has nothing to do with the abstract religeous issue of the covenant of marriage.
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164. "RE: Gay Marriage"
MA? You mean ME. (MA is Massachusetts, where gay marriage has been legal for quite some time. Yes ME is a stupid abbreviation for Maine, but there are just too many M states.)
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165. "RE: Gay Marriage"
Dear sir, I do stand corrected in the state abbreviations. Hah, those arbitrarily defined two-character US postal service codes for states!

*laugh*

Thanks!

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172. "And the best part?"
Clearly Todd Akin's deity wanted this to happen.
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192. "RE: And the best part?"
As you may remember, I was sure that the MO Republican Party would get him out of the race. I was wrong.

If he recognized this as God wanting him to lose because he didn't withdraw, that would probably be a net benefit. But he won't.

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193. "Self-education is bad."
I saw a video link to his concession speech on CNN with the title of 'God Makes No Mistakes'. I think it's safe to say he didn't learn a thing.

I didn't watch it, but if you want to risk the nausea...

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_rr_7#/video/politics/2012/11/07/election-mo-sot-akin-concession-speech.cnn

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159. "Mitt Concedes"
And congratulates President Obama
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162. "RE: Mitt Concedes"
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Yup, and the way he said it, it seems like he saw it coming, too.

With due respect, I didn't vote for him, but I also don't think he is a such a bad guy that he was unfit for presidency. I think his intentions were for what he thought was for good, although I disagreed with him in many positions. He was a bit of a chameleon, delivering the message he thought people wanted to hear to vote for him. Ryan was much worse in this respect, and although I weighed in Ryan's economic experience, his political savvy was completely lacking.

Romney put up a good fight. I find it unfortunate, however, that the likes of Carl Rove appeared on Fox election coverage due to the proliferate amounts of cash (hundreds of millions) that he personally organized into the Pub campaign, including the campaign that KO'ed Indiana's beloved incumbent Pub senator (Lugar) in the primaries, only for the seat to fall to the Dems as a result.

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186. "RE: Mitt Concedes"
I honestly think part of the GOP's problem in the last two elections has been their choice of VP running mate.

Palin was a joke and Ryan scared the hell out of a lot of people. He was one of the bigger turn offs for me. And while most people understand a VP doesn't do much it kind of shows where the party wants to lead you, and there's always that chance that he will step into the President's shoes.

The Latino vote is going to be even bigger in 4 years, the GOP better start thinking about that.

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198. "Running mate?"
Perhaps, but there is no question that the GW Bush influence still played a role in this election.

The electorate in 2004 reported being split evenly between Democrats and Republicans, 35% each. The electorate in 2008 reported being 7% more Democratic, 39%-32%. Against Republican expectations, the electorate this time reported being 6% more Democratic, 38%-32%.