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"Season 8 Timings/Locations"
LAST EDITED ON 07-20-05 AT 03:03 AM (EST)

This time we're really racing real-time against the racers, so here we go!

Updated for the Panama spoiler. Map gets a major overhaul because of that.


Image from GlobeXplorer. Wonderful site!

SOHO, NEW YORK CITY, NEW YORK, USA
By Tribefan on Tarflies
Time: Morning, Thursday 7 July 2005
1. 3 families at Eastern Mountain Sports.
2. One of them black, other two white.
3. One with young child.
4. Each family in an SUV.
5. Car-plates from different states. One New Jersey, one Michigan.

Eastern Mountain Sports is located on 591 Broadway, at the intersection of Houston Street. The shop specializes in sport and outdoor apparel. TAR has had tasks making teams go to shops to pick up gear (TAR5 Calgary, edited out), so this may be a likely task. This information fits in with the Huntsville spoiler below, claiming that the race started on Thursday.

HOPEWELL TOWNSHIP, NEW JERSEY, USA
By various posters over several forums, including DingoDan on Tarflies
Time: Thursday 7 July 2005
1. Washington Crossing Bridge closed.
2. Information from New Jersey radio station 101.5FM.
3. Explicit mention of The Amazing Race filming.
4. Filming expected to end before 6pm.

Fits in nicely with the first and next spoiler, but why would a radio station get wind of this, and announce it publicly?

DELAWARE RIVER, NEW JERSEY & PENNSYLVANIA, USA
Can't find primary source, reported by Ecdubfan on Survivor Sucks
Time: Thursday 7 July 2005
1. Caravan.
2. Mention of cluebox and tasks.
3. Unhelpful staff and cordoned off areas.
4. Alleged filming of tourism video.
5. Rowing of 'George Washington' across Delaware.
6. Six teams of four seen.

The visitor's center is on the intersection of Routes 32 and 532. I'll try to get a satellite image to try to match the places mentioned.

VIETNAM MEMORIAL, WASHINGTON DC, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, USA
By 1963Mustang on Survivor Sucks, reported here by Nomipomi
Time: About 11am, Friday 8 July 2005
1. Team with man, woman and two girls running from Vietnam Memorial to Korean Memorial.
2. Talked to a ranger, who was asked to sign confidentiality papers.
3. Ranger says their excuse was a 'tourism video'.
4. Cameramen and sound men seen.

The evidence seems to be strong, but a die-hard fan will know about the way TAR works with two crew members, confidentiality papers and the 'video' alibi. Fits in really nicely with the Dulles spoiler below.

RONALD REAGAN AIROPRT, ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA, USA
By Beau_20 on this page
Time: About 11 to 11.30am, Friday 8 July 2005
1. Team seen from metro line running out of car.
2. Cameraman spotted.
3. Car marked with yellow and black flag.

Thanks Beau_20! I'll go check up on whatever's nearby. Could it be Crystal City? (Is it even an attraction?)

DULLES, WASHINGTON DC, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, USA
By T2 on TWoP
Time: About 7.45pm, Saturday 9 July 2005
1. Phil checking into United flight.
2. Phil with three 'production-types'.
3. Group lining up for business-class seats.

Would make sense given the above Vietnam Memorial spoiler, and this throws Toronto into the out-of-sync category. Something suspicious is that Phil has mentioned several times that he travels by Economy class. Why the change now?

ALBERTA, CANADA
By Rothschild on this page
Time: In the near future
1. This will be the 51st state!

Little more information is given, so I cannot certify the authenticity of this spoiler. Did you get the information your uncle, who is a White House correspondant's cameraman? Random polls on people in Alberta seem to suggest that not much political activity is going on in plain sight, could that be CBS keeping everything under wraps? Or could this be a decoy? Could it be Nunavut instead?

SOUTH CAROLINA, USA
By The Huntsville Times
Time: Monday 11 July 2005
1. Teams took a bus to Huntsville, Alabama.

This is rather credible information, read on for more of my two cents.

MOUNT PLEASANT, CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, USA
By Scwriter on this page
Time: Monday 11 July 2005

Despite the lack of information, this spoiler goes well with the one above. Date fits nicely too.

SPACE CENTER, HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA, USA
By The Huntsville Times, reported here by Nomipomi; also by Ripley68 on TWoP; also by the New York Times
Time: Early Morning to Afternoon, Tuesday 12 July 2005
1. Teams arrived on two buses from South Carolina.
2. Teams headed to Huntsville-Madison County Convention & Visitors Bureau, 500 Church St on Tuesday morning from midnight to 4am.
3. 8 to 10 GMC Yukons left the parking lot for the U.S. Space & Rocket Center.
4. There were tasks involving the Aviation Challenge centrifuge, running to rocket park and the computer station at the Space Center.
5. The Space Center is possibly the Pitstop.
6. The Huntsville Marriot is the Pitstop hotel.
7. Clueboxes put on display only when necessary.
8. Only one team has been eliminated since the start.
9. There are still eleven teams this time.

After having so many spoilers with minimal information, we finally chance upon a generous one. Two separate spoilers basically saying the same thing, with the Pitstop description, the hotel, and the buses. Newspaper reports have rarely failed us. (I can't recall a time when they have.) I'll reckon this is the most reliable spoiler by far.

TALLADEGA, ALABAMA, USA
By The Huntsville Times, reported here by Nomipomi
Time: Tuesday 12 July 2005
1. Teams arrive from Huntsville.

From the same article as the Huntsville spoiler, so their reliability is linked.

POMP'S PILLAR, BILLINGS, MONTANA, USA
By FlamingCactusIT on this page
Time: Unknown

Too little information to tell, but the locations mentioned (including the two below) are all local attractions, and are in line with the type of places that TPTB would send teams to.

CM RUSSELL ART MUSEUM, GREAT FALLS, MONTANA, USA
By FlamingCactusIT on this page
Time: Unknown

Please read above.

UNDERGROUND MALL, HAVRE, MONTANA, USA
By FlamingCactusIT on this page
Time: Unknown
1. Location has purple squares on sidewalk.

Please read above. Havre seems to be the most famous, if not only, place in Montana with purple squares on the sidewalk. It's for ventilation in a historical underground mall.

BELIZE
By Evening on TWoP
Time: Unknown
1. Producer comments 'they will be here in July'.
2. When asked about Survivor: Guatemala, producer says 'the other one'.

Filming production leaks seem to be the most reliable. That's where I got information for the Singapore leg of TAR3 as well. If it's a personal contact, all the more likely it will happen. However, we don't know if it's another production that will film in Central America in July.

BARRO COLORADO, PANAMA
By Antennapedia on TWoP
Time: Saturday 16 to Sunday 17 July 2005
1. Americans spotted in white vans.
2. One team speaks French.
3. Cameras abound.
4. Teams were looking for the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute's boat dock.

As the racecourse veers south, one wonders why they cut through the entire Eastern coast and skips the entire western half of the United States. It's a second-hand source and descriptions are quite generic, there is a possibility that it's a hoax. Also, the witness sounds like an American ('doing field work'), so he should probably know about the race and how it works. Anyway, the Institute is on Barro Colorado Island, off Colon (where the Panama Canal ends) and not that really far way from Panama City.

TEAM SPOILERS
Nomipomi has raised the issue about Palpatine on Survivor Sucks claiming to be Willard of Survivor: Palau and having his son's family on TAR: Family. If we see a heavily-tattooed man, that's our guy, according to Palpatine.
1963Mustang suggests there is a team of a white man, woman and two girls in the race in Washington DC. They wore matching orange outfits on that day.

DISNEYWORLD, ORLANDO, FLORIDA, USA (Out-of-Sync)
By Codeqazplm on ForumsNet
Time: Friday 3 to Wednesday 8 June 2005
1. Teams wet.
2. Backpacks with tags.
3. Team with 'father, mother and two kids'.

Extremely vague information and incoherent with the bulk of the rest of the spoilers. Also, the start of June seems to early for the race with holiday differences in various states.

AIRPORT, DAYTONA BEACH, FLORIDA, USA (Out-of-Sync)
By Boxsir on Survivor Sucks
Time: Unknown
1. Cover-up people leaking information.

The lack of information on the date and source of information make this spoiler not as reliable as we hope it to be. However, this will link well with the Disneyworld start.

VICTORIA, BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA (Out-of-Sync)
By BBear on this board
Time: Friday 1 to Sunday 3 July 2005
1. Cluebox spotted on Fan Tan Alley.
2. No cameras nor racers spotted.
3. Cluebox removed within a few hours.

Canada holds a lot of local mini-races, so this may be part of one of them. Although the timing doesn't fit in, anything can happen. There are several attractions in the vicinity of Fan Tan Alley, and no Amazing Race watcher (enough to know about bickering couples and cameramen) will mistake the green box and flag design. Any comments?

TORONTO, ONTARIO, CANADA (Out-of-Sync)
By Zuezueze on TWoP
Time: Night, Thursday 7 July 2005
1. Cluebox on square in downtown Toronto.

This spoiler seems to have been refuted by Bassoon291 on Survivor Sucks, whose e-mail reply from Dundas Square suggested that the filming on July 16 (huh?) was for the Samsung Race for the Torch. Can anyone go down on the 16th to see if there's a separate race being run?

INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NORFOLK, VIRGINIA, USA (Out-of-Sync)
By MisterMcGee on TWoP
Time: Tuesday 12 July 2005
1. Filming was limited to the airport.

Very strange that filming only takes place in the airport. Is it a place for a charter flight, or anything else that can only take place in an airport? Biggest problem with this is that it takes place as teams are supposed to be in Alabama, based on the Huntsville spoiler, and teams took buses from S Carolina there, ruling out a connecting flight.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations putter96 07-08-05 1
   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations PepeLePew13 07-08-05 2
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations coolbluepig 07-08-05 3
   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations PepeLePew13 07-09-05 4
       RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations Rothschild 07-10-05 7
   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations Draco Malfoy 07-13-05 12
       RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations Penelope Le Pew 07-13-05 13
           RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations Draco Malfoy 07-13-05 14
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations ARnutz 07-09-05 5
   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations samboohoo 07-21-05 34
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations TeamJoisey 07-09-05 6
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations nomipomi 07-10-05 8
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations scwriter 07-12-05 9
   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations railfan 07-15-05 25
       RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations scwriter 07-21-05 33
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations beau_30 07-12-05 10
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations heatherms2k 07-12-05 11
   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations nomipomi 07-13-05 15
       RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations heatherms2k 07-13-05 16
       RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations beau_30 07-13-05 17
           RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations Mike2854 07-17-05 27
               RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations beau_30 07-17-05 28
                   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations VA Slim 07-17-05 29
                       RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations msbuni30 07-26-05 40
   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations Georgianna 07-14-05 19
       RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations heatherms2k 07-14-05 20
           RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations Georgianna 07-14-05 21
               RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations heatherms2k 07-14-05 22
               RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations StarryLuna 07-22-05 36
                   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations heatherms2k 07-22-05 37
                   RE: Have you been to Busch Gardens ... Georgianna 07-23-05 38
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations cahaya 07-14-05 18
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations beau_30 07-14-05 23
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations PrimeCupEevee 07-14-05 24
 2nd thoughts about the Victoria BC... 1derfool 07-16-05 26
   Don't know how credible... FlamingCactusIT 07-19-05 30
       RE: Don't know how credible... Neobie 07-19-05 31
           RE: Don't know how credible... FlamingCactusIT 07-19-05 32
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations beau_30 07-21-05 35
   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations Deekeryu 07-23-05 39
 RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations romahnator 07-30-05 41
   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations Neobie 07-31-05 42
   RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations Bubbles442 07-31-05 43
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1. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
no, not driving distance. but the Delaware Bridge is about about 60 to 90 mins from Philly's Airport.

According to travelocity, there are no direct flights between Philly and Toronto.

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2. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
Expedia.ca has flights going from Philly to Toronto -- there are direct flights and connecting flights through places such as Pittsburgh, Cincinnati or Detroit.

It's also about an 8-hour drive from Philadelphia to Toronto (777 km or 483 miles), so a flight is far more likely.



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3. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
based on these spoiler info it might be an all USA race...


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4. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
Despite the rumours from the White House, Toronto is still a part of Canada, which isn't the 51st state of the USA.



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7. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
The 51st state will be Alberta
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12. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
Or at the very least all North America.

The one that intrigues me the most is Belize. While it's a beautiful country, and I'm glad to see TAR possibly going there, it just doesn't seem to fit in with all the NA spoilers we're getting.

That said, while an all-NA TAR (can I work in a few more abbreviations?) doesn't seem *quite* so "Amazing", it kind of makes sense from a logistical standpoint. We've seen the nightmare involved with getting groups of 4 on international flights (team+camera+sound), it could be even worse for 6 or more. With an all-NA TAR, driving, short charter flights, buses (as has been spoiled at least once), and trains make much more sense with what would be larger groups.


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13. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
This is Pepe here again under Pene's name.

I agree with you about the logistical nightmares of a family travelling together overseas and also with the increased number of tickets needed to be booked together as a group... but another thing that I'm really surprised about is that the producers think they can keep this show unspoiled with a North America-only trip for such a popular show. Half of America is familiar with the show by now (even if some of them haven't watched TAR) so there's the huge potential for spoilers everywhere to give away who is still in the race at the end. It seems to me that the producers will have to do a ton of misdirection work such as keeping all of the losers "still in the game" by having them go through the motions right to the end, a tough thing to do if you've got tempermental kids in some of the families and they've got to pretend they're still going all out, etc.



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14. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
That's probably what a lot of these spoilers that "don't seem to fit" are, misdirection.


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5. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
Oh my goodness! They were here in Joisey & I missed them! Too bad I don't listen to that horrible talk radio station.

... and ditto on the direct & connecting flights out of Philly to Toronto. I'm in the area and have used the Philly airport to visit Toronto. It's US Airways, I believe.


Excellent work Neobie!!! Keep us updated on anything else you find.



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34. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
Looks like I missed them in VA too, Nutz.



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6. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
Oh man... They drove past my house.


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8. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
Add to the summary yet another spoiler:

A poster Palpatine on Metropolis Reality Forums claims that he knows a family competing - (Father, Mother & 2 kids - Father is tattooed & is "interesting" like Jonathan, but less shouting & more intense).

The poster claims to be the father of the Tattoo-Dad, and is a long-time poster at the forum.

Link:

here

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9. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
LAST EDITED ON 07-12-05 AT 08:47 AM (EST)

Looks like it is a North America edition.

Rumor has it that TAR8 filmed in Charleston, SC (more specifically Mount Pleasant, which is on the other side of the bridge from peninsular Charleston) on July 11.

I'm sorry I don't know other details.

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25. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
Isn't there a big battleship or aircraft carrier or some historic Navy vessel that is a major tourist attraction in Mt. Pleasant?

Answering my own question: http://www.patriotspoint.org/splash.asp
or maybe http://www.spiritlinecruises.com/sumter_overview.asp

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Sorry it took me so long to reply.

Yes, that would be the Yorktown in Mount Pleasant. Actually there are a lot of historic/tourist attractions around Charleston (where the Civil War started). There's also Fort Moultrie, Fort Sumter, etc., etc.

Also, the longest cable-stayed bridge in North America, which connects Charleston and Mount Pleasant, opened last weekend. There were a lot of events on it the week before it opened, and a friend and I wondered if they might have done something there. (No one reported any bungee jumping or climbing on it!)

There was nothing in the local paper about TAR being in town, but that's no surprise. The TV writer is on vacation. The weekly paper in Mount Pleasant didn't have anything either. I have heard of no Phil sightings, flag sightings or sightings of running foursomes, and it seems like someone would have seen something and called the newspaper. Still I believe the information I have and will continue to dig.

Here's a little more detail:
My boss' son, who occasionally works as a production assistant locally, went to an audition/interview on July 10. He was hired instead to be on camera for a shoot on July 11. He was told to go to a certain place, and then he (and others who were hired) were shuttled to the shoot. He had to sign a confidentiality agreement and wouldn't even give any information to his mother, other than it was for a "family reality show for network TV." She had heard from another source that it was for ABC. She's not a TAR fan, so she had not put it together. We had heard "The Next Top Model" was in town, but her son said that wasn't it.

Additionally, the local CBS affiliate had auditions for the next AR a week earlier.

I know I am suspect because I'm a new poster, but while I offer few comments, I am a daily lurker. If I am wrong, I am sorry.

I wish I had something more concrete. I can check with the town and see bout filming permits. A new network drama for fall is also filming in Charleston.

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10. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
All of thoose flights have out to Dublin with connecting flights in Newark, So If dublin is the first pit stop, What we should be figuring out is the second country they will be going to.
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11. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
"Is it a place for a charter flight, or anything else that can only take place in an airport?"

In regards to the Norfolk, VA link. I lived in NC and this was the closest airport to us, so I have flowen out of Norfolk plenty times and VERY familar with the area and what can go in and out of the airport. They do have charter flights, but as far as I know they are to where I used to live in NC, the Outer Banks. I would be very surprised if they go to the Outer Banks, granted it is a very historical area, the Wright Brothers flew there as well as many other things. I have not heard about this from anybody back home either, my mom still lives there, and word travels pretty fast. I hope that answers some questions.

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15. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
LAST EDITED ON 07-13-05 AT 12:34 PM (EST)

More spoilers to add:

From a local Alabama newspaper:

here

Another spoiler from yet another poster '1963Mustang' at Sucks (newbie first time poster, so no guarantees):

74th post on the page, copied below

First time poster. Last week, I was in DC. On Friday, I was on the mall near the Lincoln Memorial. The area was crowded as usual. I heard some shouting and looked towards the Vietnam Memorial just as a group of people came running out of the crowd. There was a man, a woman, and two young girls (caucasian) followed by a cameraman and a sound guy. All four were wearing orange outfits and caps and were running straight at me. I immediately thought about the race and wished for my camera. They ran right by me next to the reflecting pool and on towards the Korean Momument. I couldn't follow but I saw them stop and ask a park ranger something. I moved towards the ranger and heard him use his radio to call someone. He wanted to know what all the camera crews were doing on the mall. He said he had been seeing them all morning. The reply came back that they were filming a tourism video. He then said the cameraman had asked him to sign a release to use the film of him answering questions and he had refused. He told whoever he was talking to that it was against regulations and that they had better pass that on to the other rangers just in case.

This was on Friday, July 8th, about 11 am. I watched the rest of the day for others but didn't see anyone else.


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16. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
After reading the newspaper article, Talladaga (sp) is the next stop, so I would have to say, may have something to do with race car driving???? Looks like it is indeed a mostly NA race, maybe after they get a few teams out they will go elsewhere like they did in AR7. Seems like it may save $$$ that way, not to have so many travellers on airlines.
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17. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
You know now that you mention it. I did see a group with orange and a camera man on the metro on my way to school, (Springfield, VA) they could be on their way to Reagan National Airport. But I dont know if there are any flights out to the place they are going.
Hmmm Maybe I keep a look out. To see if I can find any flags.
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27. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
I live in Arlington, and I have lived in the DC area for 22 years, so I am very familar w/the Metro system and things in DC.

I don't think you are aloud to film inside a metro train, or a metro stop. However, Ronald Reagan Airport is on the yellow and blue lines, so that part sounds possible, but that is also the pickest airport when it comes to security measures. Plus, the airport isn't that big to begin with.

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28. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
LAST EDITED ON 07-17-05 AT 01:12 PM (EST)

I have bad gramming but this is what I meant to say.
They werent on the metro, they were getting out of a car at the airport. Cause that would be the closest if they were at the mall and they were travelling somewhere. Also there is a greyhound bus station between The New York Avenue station and Union Station.
I was on the train going towards springfield, I usually get off at regan from the yellow line and switch over to blue on the same track. While I was waiting I saw something that looked familar, but it was to late when I saw the other train coming.
Here is a picture of ronald regan national airport and the metro with in it.

Is a picture of the train and rail?

also there could of been two other options with dulles and bwi
DULLES Internatioal Airport
Take the Orange Line to West Falls Church-VTU/UVA station
Take Washington Flyer bus service to airport
Or Take Metrobus route 5A from L'Enfant Plaza station with stops at Rosslyn station and the Monroe Fringe parking lot in Herndon (5A timetable and route map in PDF format)

For more information on getting to Dulles International Airport, go to their Web site http://www.mwaa.com/dulles/index.htm

Baltimore-Washington International (BWI) Airport
Take the Red Line to Union Station
Transfer to MARC train (MARC web site) to BWI
Take shuttle from MARC station to airport
Or Take Metrobus express route B30 from Greenbelt station to BWI Airport. (See B30 timetable.)

So if teams also did that, it could collide with other possible spoilers. I hope that helps.


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29. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
You can get non-stops out of both Washington National and Dulles heading to South Carolina but the sighting at National makes more sense since there are more options - both US Air and Delta have non-stops into Columbia or Charleston. At Dulles, the only non-stops are on United, which does help to confirm the Phil sighting. The only thing that doesn't make sense about the Phil sighting at Dulles is the "standing in line for business class". The type of jet that United flys on the short hops out of Dulles are single class type - maybe 50-60 seats tops.
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40. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
The only thing that doesn't
make sense about the Phil
sighting at Dulles is the
"standing in line for business
class". The type of jet
that United flys on the
short hops out of Dulles
are single class type -
maybe 50-60 seats tops.


Considering how much Phil flies each year I am sure that he has "preferred" status on every airline which means he can get in the "business class or even first class" lines to check in for his flights even if he is flying in coach. It is one of the "perks" of being a frequent flyer.

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19. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
LAST EDITED ON 07-14-05 AT 01:15 AM (EST)

I've also lived (briefly, for 18 months) on the Outer Banks and I agree that filming there (particularly during the "season") would be a logistical nightmare and impossible to keep under wraps.

But, Norfolk International is also the airport of choice for visits to Colonial Williamsburg (VA): a task-rich and highly controlled environment (filming could be accomplished during the park's non-operating hours).

And I also agree that it looks as if this is going to be an "Around North America" edition of The Race: beginning, I think, in DisneyWorld and concluding in DisneyLand (during its 50th celebration).

At least, I hope so. I visited DisneyLand during its first season (in August of 1955), and have not been there since.

I understand that it has grown ...

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20. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
HMMM...Now you got me thinking, Williamsburg does have Busch Gardens, which is all about different countries. I have been there mnay times also, and they have Italy, England, Germany (my personal fav), and Ireland. I am sure I am missing some, but that is an interesting point.

There is no way that they could film on the Outer Banks, the traffic is HORRIBLE, however if they did take a charter plane down there, they would miss sitting in the long hours of traffic just to get on the island. The one thing I do not miss from there...LOL

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21. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
And now you have me thinking. Because I didn't even consider Busch Gardens. I was thinking about Colonial Williamsburg itself: where an entire town of very talented people recreate the 18th Century (and its "chores") daily.

But Busch Gardens (with its International theme) would be a natural, too. Although, if they do in fact film in DisneyWorld/Epcot/World Showcase the older park might look a bit shabby in comparison.

And you're right about the traffic on The Outer Banks (but that is about the only thing I don't miss about being there).

Maybe TAR could just rent Ocracoke (and the ferries) for a day ...

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22. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
Could you imagine..."Sorry no tourists allowed on Ocracoke today," talk about making people mad, and letting the cat out of the bag. The entire world would know after that.

It almost sounds like they may be doing a little bit of a history lesson for all of us this season if in fact all/some of these spoilers work out, DC, Williamsburg, Delaware/NJ. It may be pretty interesting and make for a lot of chatter on the board. I can't wait!!!!

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36. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
I'm not really sure about Colonial Williamsburg/Busch Gardens being filmed. I live an hour away from both and have visited many times. It's the big tourist season in both places, so Busch Gardens will be utterly packed from 10 am to 11 pm every day and I doubt they'll agree to let the race film after hours. Colonial Williamburg is EXTREMELY protective of the historical buildings, so again, I can't really see them agreeing to alow filming, although I could be wrong.

Although, if they do in fact film in DisneyWorld/Epcot/World Showcase the older park might look a bit shabby in comparison.
Have you been to Busch Gardens at all lately? One word I would never use to describe it is shabby. The park has won the award for America's Most Beautiful Theme Park for like the last 20 years. The grounds are kept in flawless condition and are spotlessly clean. My dad, a longtime smoker, doesn't even like to put his cigarette out on the sidewalk in BG. He uses water to put it out and places it in a trash can. I've been to many theme parks on the east coast, Dinsey World included, and BG is BY FAR my favorite, primarily because of how beautiful it is.


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37. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
I completly agree with you BG is beautiful!!! I LOVED going there and miss it a lot.

I think anywhere they film during the summer in the US is going to be packed. It may work into their favor because there are so many people around minding their own business and looking at everything around them they wouldn't think about people running around. I know wishful thinking, but who knows.

Also, if they did filming in DC in the summer, they can probably go anywhere.

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38. "RE: Have you been to Busch Gardens at all lately?"
In a word: No.

And that, it would appear is my loss. In fact, I have only been there once: on a miserably hot, humid and crowded August day over ten years ago. And I had driven up from the airy Outer Banks the evening before. So, my impression of Busch Gardens was probably hopelessly compromised before I arrived at the gate. In any event, my use of the word "shabby" to describe the park (even though I qualified it with "in comparison") was flip and (given my limited time there) arrogant. I'll go back ...

And about your father:

I'm also a smoker who refuses to litter public places (particularly beautiful ones) with cigarette remnants. I carry a purse valet, smoke only in (increasingly rare) areas designated for that purpose, and make every effort to frequent those (rapidly vanishing) attractions and accommodations that afford smokers an equality of (also rapidly vanishing) hospitality and civility (ashtrays, for instance, are a very nice thing ... for everyone). Witness: the world-renowned Greenbrier in West Virginia's beautiful mountains.

So, please give your Dad my best regards. Perhaps we'll pass each other one ... cool ... day. Somewhere in "Germany".

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18. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
Neobie, that's a very nicely presented map and summary of spoilers so far. Excellent work! We'll be following the developments closely.


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23. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
It was a quick glance, but I was on the yellow line traveling to ronald regan national airport, waiting for the blue line to take me towards Springfield, Since I go to school there.
It was July 8th around 11 or 11:30 am I think. I just looked over there to see.
I saw a black van with a small yellow and black flag and a team racing out of the car with camera man. I turned to see how much time I had time until the metro came, and the metro was there.
www.wmata.com is the location for the map of the metro rail.
somebody mentioned the mall, and I was thinking Regan is the nearest airport. And thought could it be like monday again when I was riding the metro as well. I hope that helps. Or again it could of been decoys?
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24. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
A bit more info on the Alabama task, from this source:

http://washingtontimes.com/upi/20050714-114638-8086r.htm

It mentions of the $10 million confidentiality aggrement NASA didn't sign. The more interesting part is the last paragraph which states that eleven teams started and one was already eliminated. I certainly hope this season makes a profit...

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26. "2nd thoughts about the Victoria BC sighting"
As much as I'd love to see the race back here in Canada again, I'll take the Victoria BC sighting with a grain of salt.

The date is off, but it could have been part of the planning and testing for the upcoming local race. The Amazing Race - Devonian Regional Park July 13th, 2005. http://webvictoria.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/webvictoria/calendar.pl?month=7&date=12&year=2005&view=Event&event_id=717

There's a simulated race going on in Vancouver BC http://www.geocities.com/amazinghunt Victoria is on the island but the race seems to be popular enough that they have another version in Vancouver. This group seems to be making it a regular event. The same group also offers custom races for groups or corporate events, so the clue boxes could show up any day of the year. The website only mentions Stanley Park Vancouver for these custom races, but they could easily do one on the island (or an enterprising competitor might).

Even allowing for both of these to be wrong, it would seem TAR is popular enough in BC that you could easily find clue boxes and racers for local versions.

(I live in Ontario so I'm limited to what I can find online, but I'll try to contact friends in Victoria and Pt Coquitlam in case they have any better details about the 'real' race in Victoria.... )

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30. "Don't know how credible..."
I read on a site, don't know where, that there was something about going to Montana for a visit to Pomp's Pillar (The place that Lewis and Clark engraved their signatures on the expedition), that's outside Billings. The C.M. Russell art museum, that's outside Great Falls, and lastly something about purple sidewalk squares. Don't know what's significant about it, or where that is in Montana.

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31. "RE: Don't know how credible..."
You may be talking about Havre in N Montana. The purple squares are part of some sort of historical underground mall, and I'll think that makes it a good candidate for a TAR location.

Any idea where you got the information? It would help a lot to evaluate the spoiler if we had the primary source.

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32. "RE: Don't know how credible..."
LAST EDITED ON 07-19-05 AT 01:23 PM (EST)

Unfortunately, I lost the source in cyberspace. So it falls into the "Q without a U" category. I'm taking it with a grain of salt. If there are any Montana peeps out there, keep your eyes open.

Also, I think it's sort of funny that on the Family Edition of Amazing Race, there's a possibility of teams going to an Underground Opium Den.

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35. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
Its beau_30, I just wanted to let you know that, if you can change that I would appreciate. I don't want to sound rude or anything.
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39. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
For that Palpatine spoiler, he is actually posting on Forumsnet, and he does not claim to be Willard from Survivor. That is just his other username, and he just likes him. He said the reason he couldn't be on Survivior is because his son and his son's family was going to be on TAR8. He also said that his son and family had started the race in early June, so the race should have been over in early July.
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41. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
LAST EDITED ON 07-30-05 AT 06:06 PM (EST)

Toronto, July 30 10AM-4:30PM

- teams getting clues from schooner Kajama
- driving SUVs with New York licence plates
- mention of CN Tower (stairs?)
- mention of Montreal by crew as next location
- Bertram van Munster was on sight

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42. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
LAST EDITED ON 07-31-05 AT 07:15 AM (EST)

Welcome to the boards, Romahnator!

Could you give us a description of the team?

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43. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
ok one team arrived in montreal from chicago on flight NorthWestern 1792 at 5:00pm on July 30. One producer was with the team....they believed the other teams arrived from Toronto. The last flight the teams could have flown out from was direct from Minneapolis to Montreal - arrival time 22h30. There are 5 teams of 4 people left.
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44. "RE: Season 8 Timings/Locations"
I'm not sure how many, but some teams flew from Toronto to Montreal on AC418 at 4:15 pm. We were informed that this flight "must" depart on time because Amazing Race films crews were going to be aboard filming the contestants.
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