7||0|0 0|0|sig size|smokeysmom||16:48:09|03/27/2008|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 04-01-08 AT 05:26 PM (EST)[/font][p]I can%27t help but notice that many siggies in use now are above the guidelines%2C for example%3A at 60K%0D%0A%0D%0AFORGIVE ME%2C please%2C for using this as an example. %0D%0A%0D%0AIn fact%2C the siggie warning which admonishes us to stay within 20K is itself beyond the guidelines at 44K%3A%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F47ec07da1346641e.jpg %0D%0A%0D%0ADo we need new guidelines%3F Can we add a Flash format to our guidelines%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AOr%2C of course%2C we can stay where we%27re at%2C no worries.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%A0 %0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22red%22 size%3D%221%22 face%3D%22verdana%22%5DEdited to remove Seanas%27 sig which I never should have singled out to pose this question%2C I apologize.%5B%2Ffont%5D %0D%0A%0D%0A 1|1|RE%3A sig size|tribephyl||18:33:07|03/27/2008|I see the first sig as 35K%2C not 60K. Still over the maximum allowable but closer.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd as far as IC%27s sig-example goes%2C it looks 20K exactly to me.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AOverall%2C I imagine that policing 30 thousandsuch posters with their multiple siggies is a task too daunting to dedicate time solely to it. %0D%0AI do see the blue peeps warn folks who display larger pixel parameters and I personally have experiences with being told to alter siggies to lower the file size. %0D%0ASo the guidlines are still being upheld and enforced. %0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m not quite sure about the flash question though.%0D%0AI%27d ask IceCat or RollDDice%2C as I believe it was Ice Cat who told Rollie how to post his flash siggies.%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F4778b4583f8670c6.gif%0D%0A%0D%0A 2|1|RE%3A sig size|Bebo||15:01:06|03/28/2008|When you see a sig that is in violation of the guidelines%2C alert the moderators. We don%27t open every single post and check every single signature - it%27s just not practical for volunteers. The guidelines ask posters to keep the height a maximum of 60 pixels%2C and most of the alerts we get are for signatures that are above that.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd the siggie warning is just that - a warning%2C not a sig pic itself. Therefore%2C it is not in violation of any guidelines. We often allow non-signature pics and graphics that are taller%2Fbigger...otherwise%2C our vidcap analysis would be nonexistant. %3A-%29%0D%0A%0D%0AJust like any other guideline%2C if you see a violation%2C use the alert system to notify the moderators.%0D%0A 3|1|RE%3A sig size|AyaK||06:29:02|03/30/2008|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 03-30-08 AT 06:52 AM (EST)[/font][p]I would expect that most of the sig files that are violators of the size guidelines were created as gifts for other people%2C and the creators were unaware of the guidelines. I know that%27s the case with the file above that was created for Seana.%0D%0A%0D%0AFrankly%2C I freely admit that I%27ll check the height and length of pictures%2C but I don%27t think I ever remember to check their file size. I guess I%27ll need to start doing that.%0D%0A%0D%0AHowever%2C I don%27t know where you are getting a figure of 60MB for the Seana sig above. Checking the image in Windows%2C I get 34MB -- still above the guidelines%2C but not triple-sized. And the IceCat sig%2C with your purported size of 44MB%2C is actually 19MB by my measurement. So basically%2C both of those figures are overstated by 25MB. How did you get those numbers%2C smokeysmom%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DEdited to add%5B%2Fb%5D%3A Based on what I%27ve seen in the sig files%2C I don%27t see any reason to rework the guidelines -- but I%27ve also realized that you don%27t need motion to go over. For example%2C %0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F47a405de37b7e316.jpg%0D%0Ais 31MB.%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F47a184b8589571b6.jpg%0D%0Ais 27MB.%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F478428d8018bc9df.jpg%0D%0Ais a gutbuster at almost 57MB%2C although it%27s completely static. And even this one%3A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F3e67ffbe51f10178.gif%0D%0Ais 27MB.%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27ve posted this whole assortment not to embarrass the people involved but just to point out that it%27s obvious that we haven%27t been monitoring file size%2C due to how widepread the violations are. If anyone would like to help shrink these sig pics%2C I%27m sure the posters to whom they belong would be grateful.%0D%0A%0D%0ANow%2C if you%27ll excuse me%2C checking sig pics has made me thirsty...%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F47ef709a7df459c5.gif 4|2|RE%3A sig size|agman||10:00:03|03/30/2008|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 03-30-08 AT 02:14 PM (EST)[/font][p]%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C the %22gutbuster%22 I made has visited Jenny Craig%2C and has dropped from a whopping 57 Mb to a trim and fit 15.2 bytes. %0D%0A%0D%0A http%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F47ef9c2607098a56.gif %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AETA I have also resized the siggie I made Seana%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F47efa3171ee65521.gif %0D%0A%0D%0A 5|2|RE%3A sig size|tribephyl||11:20:50|03/30/2008|Samboohoo%3A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F47efaf924f90c2c1.gif%0D%0A%0D%0AAbman%3A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F47efaf704f2e613e.gif%0D%0A%0D%0AKimmah%3A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F47efafb8500a6dfe.gif 6|1|I%27m an elephant|smokeysmom||17:30:46|04/01/2008|in a china shop. I am so sorry for posting Seana%27s sig to ask my questions about guidelines%2C please accept my apology.%0D%0A%0D%0AI really was wondering how we could incorporate everyone%27s creativity into the guidelines now that so many of us can do animations%2C etc. Hoping we could add other sizes or formats.%0D%0A%0D%0AAfter all my lurking%2C and fairly long time posting%2C you%27d think I could be less clumsy -- but apparently%2C not%21 Sorry my friends%2C it won%27t happen again.%0D%0A 7|2|RE%3A I%27m an elephant|Seana||23:35:21|04/03/2008|Thank-you for your kindness. It%27s a good topic%2C and one that clearly needed discussion. Agman has been kind enough to re-do the sig for me%2C so I can happily assert my geekishness without slowing things down for the dial-up crowd.%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.realitytvworld.com%2Fboards%2FUser_files%2F47efa3171ee65521.gif %0D%0A%5Bfont size%3D1 color%3Dblue%5DAgman made it so%21 %5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A