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"Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
Eternal thanks to Survivor Fever

Next week on Survivor:






























Transcript:

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...after being betrayed, Penner's got nothing left to lose...

Penner (camera confessional): I have no alliances. They are all ready to die.

Probst: ...he wages war on everyone.

Penner (talking to Lisa and Skupin): Maybe he'll win Immunity. No you won't, dude, cause I'm winning Immunity.

Penner: That's the ????, (inaudible)

Probst (calling challenge as Penner and Skupin lunge across finish line): One more spot!

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 RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread Flowerpower 11-01-12 1
   RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread forehead 11-01-12 2
   RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread Blind Freddy 11-01-12 3
   RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread CTgirl 11-01-12 5
       RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread SquidProQuo 11-02-12 6
           RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread PepeLePew13 11-02-12 7
 RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread rachelOH63 11-01-12 4
 Weekend promo michel 11-03-12 8
 RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread dabo 11-03-12 9
   RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread SquidProQuo 11-03-12 10
       RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread crispy06 11-03-12 11
           RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread SquidProQuo 11-04-12 21
               RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread crispy06 11-04-12 22
                   RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread SquidProQuo 11-04-12 24
       RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread dabo 11-03-12 13
   RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread michel 11-03-12 12
 Lisa Big Move Shocker dabo 11-03-12 14
   RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker Bebo 11-04-12 15
       RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker SquidProQuo 11-04-12 18
           RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker rachelOH63 11-04-12 29
               RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker Karchita 11-05-12 32
   RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker Flowerpower 11-04-12 16
       RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker SquidProQuo 11-04-12 17
           RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker Bebo 11-04-12 19
               RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker SquidProQuo 11-04-12 23
                   RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker Bebo 11-04-12 26
                       RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker michel 11-04-12 28
           RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker dabo 11-04-12 20
               RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker Bebo 11-04-12 25
                   Agree dabo 11-04-12 27
           RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker Karchita 11-05-12 33
 Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' footb... Blind Freddy 11-05-12 30
   RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... dabo 11-05-12 31
       RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... Scarlett O Hara 11-05-12 34
           RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... SquidProQuo 11-05-12 35
               RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... dabo 11-05-12 36
                   RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... SquidProQuo 11-05-12 37
           RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... Sheldor 11-06-12 42
               RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... dabo 11-06-12 43
                   RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... Sheldor 11-06-12 44
                       RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... SquidProQuo 11-06-12 50
   RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... Bebo 11-05-12 38
       RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... SquidProQuo 11-05-12 39
           RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... Bebo 11-05-12 40
   RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' f... Sheldor 11-06-12 45
 Missyae episode spoiler Arnold_Lorax2 11-05-12 41
   RE: Missyae episode spoiler PepeLePew13 11-06-12 49
       RE: Missyae episode spoiler rachelOH63 11-06-12 53
           RE: Missyae episode spoiler Arnold_Lorax2 11-07-12 59
               Yes, but... Bebo 11-07-12 60
                   RE: Yes, but... rachelOH63 11-07-12 61
   RE: Missyae episode spoiler Sheldor 11-11-12 65
 Press Pics Blind Freddy 11-06-12 46
   RE: Press Pics dabo 11-06-12 47
       'Snake in the Grass' Blind Freddy 11-06-12 48
           RE: 'Snake in the Grass' SquidProQuo 11-06-12 51
           RE: 'Snake in the Grass' Blind Freddy 11-06-12 52
               RE: 'Snake in the Grass' Sheldor 11-07-12 64
   RE: Press Pics michel 11-06-12 54
       RE: Press Pics rachelOH63 11-06-12 55
           RE: Press Pics PepeLePew13 11-06-12 56
               RE: Press Pics michel 11-07-12 57
                   RE: Press Pics dabo 11-07-12 58
                   RE: Press Pics PepeLePew13 11-07-12 63
 E8 web promo - RC preview Blind Freddy 11-07-12 62

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1. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
For the OFG Theory, judging from this promo, note how these vidcaps are squeezed in the middle...



I wouldn't be surprised at all if one of these 3 is our boot. And, let's just say, that I don't think it will be Denise.

I think this is the CTGirl Theory, squeezing the boot right smack in the middle. It's an adaptation, say, of the OFG!

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2. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
>I wouldn't be surprised at all if one of these 3 is our boot. And, let's just say, that I don't think it will be Denise.
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>I think this is the CTGirl Theory, squeezing the boot right smack in the middle. It's an adaptation, say, of the OFG!

Very astute!

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3. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
Thanks FloPo for getting bringing these over for discussion!

Fwiw....the transcript text in question might be...(my take)

Penner: "I'd stick it right #@$!*& in their damn faces"

And here's the YouTube video link to the Preview for ref/review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IWe5P6YzIw&feature=plcp

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5. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
That theory is not fool proof. I was convinced Carter was going last time because a single shot of Carter (looking particularly out-of-it with his doofus facial expression!) was squeezed in one set of vidcaps last week. So it's a part-time theory!

I do think either Jeff or Carter will go this week.

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6. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
LOL and Carter has yet another doofus facial expression this week! But I'm leaning Jeff now that I've seen the clues and it appears that Penner (or someone) outs Kent at TC. Should be a good TC!

Re challenge vidcaps: So it appears Penner gets a spot in the finals or next stage. Are they just running to get to the finish line or why are they falling/hurdling? Also it's hard to tell what's in their hands...bag of something? Hoping it's puzzle pieces since Penner would do well if that's the last stage.

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7. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
It's funny, but if someone does out Kent's $86 million career earnings while at TC, I'd think that would be even more reason to keep him around as a goat/helper-to-boot-others because nobody will give him the million dollars in the final TC. Just a thought.
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4. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
Cannot wait for the next episode! I want one now!

I agree a Kalabaw (sp?) is going.

Both Carter and Jeff were tops in the last IC, so "Mr. In-Charge" Pete will want to get rid of either of them, too, I'm sure -- beside Penner wanting to also!

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8. "Weekend promo"
Announcer: "Lisa is ready to make a big move."
Lisa (solo): "I have a plan."
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9. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 11-03-12 AT 07:36 PM (EST)

PIP

http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s25_ep8_pip.html

Transcript:

Announcer: Wednesday, on Survivor, the former teen star is making a move and it's a shocker.


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10. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 11-03-12 AT 07:51 PM (EST)

Thanks, Dabo. Wow, very Lisa centric promo! She is supposedly a long time student of the game so hope she comes up with something good if she's indeed making a move.

So last shots appear to be different challenge near ocean (vs Penner/Skrupin vidcaps). Must be separate RC and IC this week, which should be fun if some go away on reward.

Are the earlier shots of Lisa from the mud ball challenge? If not, I'm a bit confused. Also is Lisa wearing a mask in these last shots? Kinda dark so hard for me to tell for sure.

Lisa/Penner bonding in last ep had to be shown to us for a reason. Maybe she's the one who decides to help save him and take him into their alliance? Would be smart for Lisa/Malcom/Denise and Mike to jump up and back across the other alliances. Don't want to allow Abi/Pete/Artis to take in Kent/Carter and then they'll have 5-5 potential tie, right? Maybe she's the one who realizes they need to take out Pete or Artis this week? I would love that vs. the expected Penner or Carter/Kent.

ETA: I believe that Lisa and Malcolm (maybe Denise) are the only ones who know about both HIIs. Maybe that factors into this week's strategy -- trying to flush Pete/Abi's idol?

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11. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
the earlier shots are from the mud challenge. I wonder if lisa makes a move backstab one (artis, abi,pete)? She does seem to be willing to work with Penner atleast.
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21. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
P.S. Crispy, is your name in homage to Mike? Been meaning to ask you about that.
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22. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
No but it's funny that you mention Mike. I never thought about the connection. lol
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24. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
My young son and I were Mike fans during the Australia season and some people were calling Mike Mr. Crispy etc. so that's why I wondered. My son had bad burns from an accident when he was little so I think he related to Mike.
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13. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 11-03-12 AT 10:16 PM (EST)

Some of the camp shots are from Tandang, Malcolm and Artis are from Dangrayne. Mudball challenge shots re-used, cheering shot re-used.

Lisa is dressed differently, in the post show individual challenge shots she has on her yellow top not her pink top. Don't know if that is a mask or blindfold on the course with rope, if blindfold it is certainly a teams challenge.

Reward, they probably get divided randomly into two groups and are split up for awhile, one group to reward while the others go back to camp. Great time to put some game in motion.

ETA: seems to be mask, she's going into the water

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12. "RE: Episode 8, Vidcaps Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 11-03-12 AT 08:33 PM (EST)

The new promo has an extra segment: After her confessional where she says she has a plan, we see Lisa talking to Skupin saying: "We have to blindside him tonight."

The "him" isn't identified but it stands to reason that she is talking about Pete who has an idol.

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14. "Lisa Big Move Shocker"
LAST EDITED ON 11-03-12 AT 10:21 PM (EST)

http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s25_ep8_11_3.html

Transcript:

Announcer: Lisa is making a big move...

Lisa (camera confessional): I have a plan.

Announcer: ...and it's a shocker!

Lisa (to Skupin): We have to blindside him tonight.

ETA: Well, obviously there is no reason to worry about blindsiding Penner.

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15. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
So right before she talks to Skupin about a blindside, she's shown talking to Jeff...coincidence? I think not.

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18. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
Agreed. And what is Lisa holding in her hands in that vidcap? It's probably tree mail or something from challenge....But kinda looks like a puppet on a string / symbolism!
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29. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
Lisa is holding 3 fish, I believe. Maybe she went fishing and caught them herself!
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32. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
They look like fish to me, too. Maybe she went fishing with Jeff Kent and they cooked up a plan together.


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16. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
Football promo: Just saw pretty much the same promo as up above with Lisa, but she also says, I am just not here to get to the Final 5, I am in it to win it...I want to win.

Then Skupin has a confessional also saying Lisa is just not trying to get to the F5, she wants to win.

I am leaning with Bebo, I think she'll go after Kent/Carter. Abi/Pete/Artis will be easy to pick off once they can get rid of the big boys in the middle.

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17. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
Wow, Lisa sure is coming out of her shell and stepping up her game. So we pretty much know that Penner is safe, because his boot wouldn't be a blindside.

Jeff would be a smart boot because a) it breaks up the Kent/Carter pair, who are a big threat if they ally with the rude alliance and could give them numbers next episode; b) he's a huge challenge threat and c) he's smart/strategic...not to mention he's Carter's brains. This could also tie with the "revelation" part of this week's clues. We also had the focus on Jeff giving up immunity for Carter last week. Just felt like that would have a payoff soon. And we all know SEG loves its irony if both veterans outlast Kent.

Pete would also be a smart blindside for many of the same reasons....and in addition he/Abi have the HII. The only wrinkle with booting him out this early is that it might cost votes to Lisa (they already hate Mike, so no worries there) since she was supposedly allied with them.

Interesting how Malcolm/Denise appear to keep their hands clean of all the drama, at least for now. That's a good thing for them.

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19. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
Pete would also be a smart blindside for many of the same reasons....and in addition he/Abi have the HII.

But would they have the numbers to go after Pete without Abi? Even if Skupin, Lisa, Denise, and Malcolm get Penner on their side, one of them would be gone if Pete did play the idol and they didn't include Abi.

And if Abi did tell Pete, and he used the idol to get out one of those 5 instead, then she could go far in an alliance with the alpha males. They'd be more threatened by challenge threats than picking her off, and she could head into F3.

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23. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
Bebo, thanks for setting me straight! I knew about the 5-5 potential tie but got mixed up that it was next week.

So, how to break the potential stalemate? Can't imagine they'll want to risk the purple rock. And I don't think Malcolm is going to put his HII on the line so early -- especially for Penner or Mike. And like Dabo says, the rude alliance doesn't even realize that Lisa and Malcolm aren't with them.

- Does the potential tie factor in to the "brutally frank" TC?
- Could Lisa convince Pete that Kent is gunning for him and a big physical threat and thus should be the next target? (Kinda like Kim played Troyzan like a fiddle and got him to vote out Mike or whatever his name)
- Or could she convince Kent/Carter to vote Mike and then the rude alliance to vote Penner (or vice versa), thus splitting the other 5's voting block?
- If Penner creates chaos at TC, does that change people's votes?
Vidcaps aren't helping much so just throwing out spec/ideas.

Wow, this is a critical juncture here...and if Lisa/Mike figure out a way to come out on top of this important vote, hats off to them -- they deserve to be in the F3. Can't wait to see how it plays out.

Regardless of order/specifics, still seems based on edit and storyline that Artis, Carter, Kent and probably Pete are the next to go. Still don't have a handle on Penner.

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26. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
I can see a 7-3 vote happening. Here's how:

- Let Artis, Jeff, and Carter think that Penner is still the target.
- As far as Abi and Pete know, they control the only HII in the game. So a 6 person alliance of Abi/Pete, Malcolm/Denise, Lisa/Skupin would be advantageous for them. At F6, Pete could play the HII if needed to ensure that he stays, giving him and Abi a solid chance to go to F4. Pete has to like his chances of winning immunity against Skupin/Lisa/Abi, so he could see that alliance of 6 as a good shot for him to make F3.
- Penner will vote for whoever Lisa or Skupin tells him to vote for to have a chance to stay in the game.

The next TC, they can get rid of Artis or Carter, whichever one doesn't win immunity. They vote out the other one next unless he wins IC, in which case they knock out Penner. The only glitch the 6 could encounter is if the remaining outlier (Artis, Carter, Penner) wins immunity at F7.


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28. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
The problem I see with this scenario is that you can't separate Pete, Abi and Artis. The best way for Lisa/Skupin/Denise/Malcolm and Penner to go is to turn the trio against Carter and Kent. It shouldn't be hard to do. Then, the 5 can choose which one to eliminate.
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20. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
LAST EDITED ON 11-04-12 AT 08:20 PM (EST)

If Lisa brings in Jonathan and Michael to her alliance with Denise and Malcolm, they have five votes, and Malcolm's HII. That leaves Abi, Artis, Carter, Jeff and Pete with five votes and Abi's HII.

The good thing for the vets/misfit alliance is that the Jeff/Pete cross-tribal alliance doesn't see it coming (in fact Pete thinks he has a strong Tandang5 with hangers-on of three Kalabaw). But if Malcolm plays his HII to cover Jonathan or Michael (possibly Penner has II so they target the reamaining vet) their alliance is basically revealed. Jeff would be an obvious target since he's been leading the anti-vet movement from day 1, so it is a gamble. But if Pete and Abi don't realize the numbers are 5-5, because they think Lisa is still with them or Denise is still with Jeff, they probably won't play their HII.

Carter might be a better choice to target since he gave Jeff custody of the brain. Do they roll the dice on Jeff or go first for the wingman?

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25. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
Do they roll the dice on Jeff or go first for the wingman?

Jeff is the more dangerous one to keep around. Carter has only been shown as a follower, so going for the strategist would be a more solid choice.


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27. "Agree"
But Jonathan will regard Jeff as the one who stabbed him in the back, everyone will know that.

On the other hand, the HII is in Tandang hands, would a Tandang use it to cover a Kalabaw? Frankly, I think Abi won't use it for anyone but herself, but that's another matter.

It's a "he" that can't see it coming, so not Abi. Lisa knows she's just a pawn in Pete's game, she's got game with Malcolm, and Jonathan is a "dead man walking." But really none of the rest of them, including Abi, can see it coming no matter who it is.

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33. "RE: Lisa Big Move Shocker"
Interesting how Malcolm/Denise appear to keep their hands clean of all the drama, at least for now. That's a good thing for them.

They did the same in their original tribe, too.


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30. "Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
Here's the Sunday football promo vidcaps where Lisa has the "I'm trying to win it" comment.

Courtesy of SurvivorFever (ty Mayan Sun)
http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s25_ep8_11_4.html

Transcript:

Announcer: Lisa's fate has been in the hands of the power trio...

<footage of Pete, Abi and Artis>

Announcer: ...but now the former teen star is making a move...

Lisa (camera confessional): I have a plan.

Skupin (camera confessional): Lisa is now in this game to win it.

Announcer: ...and it's...

Lisa (camera confessional): I'm not trying to just get to the final five, I'm trying to win it.

Announcer: ...a shocker!

Lisa (talking to Skupin): We have to blindside him tonight.

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31. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
TY

And he shows up even in this edit --

Dead Man Walking

Funny how the promos started with Jonathan going all out Troyzan and then shifted to the Lisa shocker. Of course, to CBS hype monkeys Lisa aligning with the person she voted against last time, well isn't that a shock. And Michael too, double shock.

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34. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
Are those fish she is holding?


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35. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
Scarlett, love your adorable fish! And yes, those are fish in Lisa's hand, as Rachel and Karchita pointed out above -- good eye! I still think it looks like a puppet on a string and could be a metaphor for what happens this episode .

This could be great social play/jury management on Lisa's part if she's schmoozing and fishing with Kent while getting ready to blindside him. (Although Mike's quote that she's suddenly out to win could be a red flag.)

To avoid a purple rock/tie scenario, I think the veteran alliance's best bet is to make Pete/Abi/Artis realize what a physical/strategic game threat Jeff Kent is and maybe even plant the seed that Kent was talking smack about them. Kent taunted Artis in the mud ball challenge, so maybe rile that up again. And of course if Kent is outed, then they could say that Kent is a liar and not to be trusted.

P.S. Love the look on Artis' face in the vidcap with Malcolm....that guy is rarely happy.

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36. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
I still think it looks like a puppet on a string and could be a metaphor for what happens this episode .

LOL. It's only the quirky configuration of the three fish in that one vidcap, possible at only one frame stop, that makes the puppet appear.

Love the idea of Lisa throwing Jeff under the bus, though. If she can convince Power Pete to split the vote again (it worked so well last time) to send a message to Jeff that he can be cut for not being a team player, great tactic. Especially if it is true and Jeff does try to set things up so he can take charge somewhere down the line.

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37. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
Agreed, Dabo. And they're going to have to pretend that Penner and Mike are on the outs....that's the real blindside.....lots of acting this week! Maybe Penner won't be brought in loop which could lead to him having his back against the wall and the TC clues.

Based on vidcaps, seems like Malcolm will play a key role and have to be in the thick of things selling the story to Artis and Pete.

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42. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
In the video those don't look like real fish but rather fish made out of wood. I'm guessing that Jeff and Lisa went to get the tree mail for the Reward Challenge (which is out in the water as we see Lisa pulling a rope wearing a dive mask and entering the water) and that the item Lisa is holding is the clue for the Reward Challenge. Maybe those are the fish they need to retrieve from the water?
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43. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
I was wondering about that myself, since the fish are on three unconnected strings rather than one stringer the way they would be when I go fishing. But hey, I'm a midwestern river and creek and lake fisher, what do I know about how Texans fish and string.
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44. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
I re-watched the commercial and the first frames show Lisa holding that stick and the "fish" are wound up on the stick. She holds the stick out to show Jeff and the 3 "fish" drop down. Definitely NOT real fish.
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50. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 06:27 PM (EST)

Good catch Sheldor! Thanks!

ETA: So if that's their tree mail, this gives us a clue about the nature of the challenge. Must be the one where we see Lisa jumping in the water with the reel and wearing a mask.

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38. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
This ad keeps showing up during daytime TV, and a few things have stuck out to me after listening to it over and over. We've had some key alliances revealed:

- The Power Trio - Artis, Abi, Pete
- Final Five - Power trio + Lisa + Skupin

We've also been previously shown Penner as the Dead Man Walking in prior promos.

The other person we're being shown in this preview is Jeff. That could mean Jeff is being targeted...or that Lisa is trying to get him into a plan with her. Both could be considered shockers to target instead of the dead man walking, but which one would be considered a move that could turn Lisa from a final five member to a potential champion?

If the Final Five stays together, then Skupin and Lisa know they're 4th and 5th. But if Lisa wants to make a move that could help her win, she'd need to move on the Power Trio. So since she's talking about blindsiding him, she could be referring to Pete or Artis.

Penner will go along with anyone else being the target. Malcolm and Denise would love to break up the original Tandangs to improve their standing. But that's still a 5-5 tie. Jeff and Carter would be needed to make sure there's no tie. Jeff could see the benefit of breaking up Tandang and getting rid of 2 IC threats in the process.

So basically, we have a group divided like this:
- Artis, Pete, Abi
- Skupin, Lisa
- Malcolm, Denise
- Jeff, Carter
- Penner

It could make sense for some of the pairs to get rid of that trio, and then there would be plenty of prospects to take power. Each of those pairs could see an opportunity, so this would be a great time to make a play after one of those three.

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39. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
Bebo, I haven't seen any of the football promos, so I'm not sure where the "Final 5" stuff you mentioned is coming from? Is that just based on Tandang sticking together and pagonging everyone else? Based on edit/story line I was never seeing them sticking together as F5, so just was wondering.

I do agree with your description of the pairs/alliances. And I've been thinking if Lisa could convince Kent and Penner to vote together (after last week's betrayal and Kent's anti veteran sentiment) with their block (i.e. Malcolm/Denise/Lisa/Skrupin) and vote out either Pete or Artis, THAT would indeed be a huge coup and a major shocker. Hard to see it happening, but who knows. That definitely fits the blindside billing. But very hard to see that happening.

Pete is obviously the brains of the threesome...but Artis might be an easier sell as a target, given the HII in play. Edit seems to say that neither Artis or Pete are long for the game....yet Carter/Kent's story seems to be over too.

I still think Lisa has to be careful of jury votes and going against her original tribe/alliance too early. I think she has less to lose by going against a Kalabaw (Kent/Carter) right now. Basically comes down to breaking up the alliance of 3 or the other pair.

Penner is obvious boot target but what's to stop Artis/Pete/Abi from pulling in Carter/Kent and targeting Mike? I'm sure they'd think that Malcolm would go along with that and be their 6th vote and probably Lisa too. I don't think Malcolm/Denise will go to purple rock or use their HII for Mike or Penner. Of course Lisa has a supposed alliance with them and a little info/power over Malcolm but that's not a guarantee.

Seems like a very tricky week....especially with the tie prospect.....I love that we don't really know for sure how it'll play out! The prospect of a tie/purple rock should force some compromising. Cannot wait.

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40. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
Lisa brings up the Final 5 in a confessional in the commercial:

Lisa (camera confessional): I'm not trying to just get to the final five, I'm trying to win it.


As for your concerns about Penner and Jeff working together...they don't need Penner. He's just one. If they get Jeff, they get 2 votes (him and Carter) and can win 6-3-1 (Penner voting for whoever he feels like voting for that day). Or they can tell Penner and have a 7-3 vote. He's not needed to cause a blindside.

Lisa and Mike are tight - she would never go along with a vote against him at this point. Artis, Pete, and Abi think they have a good thing going with the other original Tandang there. If they were to stick together to make F5, then those three have the numbers to ensure they go F3.

I don't think Malcolm would go along with A/P/A. I think Malcolm would rather stick with the others because he would have a much bigger chance of winning individual immunity. Artis and Pete are bigger challenge threats than Mike. So are Jeff and Carter. So I think Malcolm would be more likely to have an alliance with the physically weaker individuals to increase his chance of winning immunity.

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45. "RE: Lisa - 'I'm trying to win it' football promo"
A second promo was uploaded to the same web page:
http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s25_ep8_11_4.html

Survivor: Philippines Promo - Episode 8
Date: 11.4.12 - Late Afternoon Promo

Transcript:

Announcer: Lisa's fate has been in the hands of the power trio

<footage of Pete, Abi and Artis>

Announcer: But now the former teen star is making a move...

Lisa (camera confessional): I have a plan.

Skupin (camera confessional): Lisa is now in this game to win it.

Announcer: ...and it's a shocker!

Lisa (talking to Skupin): We have to blindside him tonight.



























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41. "Missyae episode spoiler"
If you want to know what happens this episode highlight the hidden text here:

Penner wins immunity, there is a tie at tribal council between Carter and Kent, Kent goes home

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49. "RE: Missyae episode spoiler"
So... a 4-4-2 tie? A revote going 5-3 (i.e. Penner switching to the other foursome)? I don't see the two names you mentioned voting for each other.
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53. "RE: Missyae episode spoiler"
I am not the spoiler police...but i hope no one else sees this that doesn't want to know.... i mean...there are vidcap spoilers and there are outright spoilers.... sorry! not trying to be a bio-tch.
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59. "RE: Missyae episode spoiler"
It was written in invisible text so that only those that wanted to see it could see it. I didn't think it warranted it's own thread. This still is a spoiler board isn't it? Geesh

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60. "Yes, but..."
If people are responding to your post, they could give the information away to people who haven't read the invisible text.

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61. "RE: Yes, but..."
Yes. I didn't mean you Arnold. I meant the replies that may give too much away for some people. Thanks!
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65. "RE: Missyae episode spoiler"
Arnold_Lorax2 wrote:

> If you want to know what happens this episode highlight the
> hidden text here:

Hidden Text Revealed:

> Penner wins immunity
> There is a tie at tribal council between Carter and Kent,
> Kent goes home

Well Penner did win Immunity and Kent did go home but there was NOT a tie and Carter did NOT get any votes (Pete did).

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46. "Press Pics"
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Sorry for the delay...CBS was slow in releasing the full sized images.

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47. "RE: Press Pics"

Carter and Denise with II's so this challenge is Immunity, the one where Lisa goes in the water is Reward.

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48. "'Snake in the Grass'"
LAST EDITED ON 11-06-12 AT 05:26 PM (EST)

'Snake in the Grass'

Obstacle course w/3 stations to untie 3 bags of puzzle pieces...race across the black line. First 3 advance to final stage....puzzle solving. Large curved snake puzzle. Curved pieces w/designs on them. First to complete puzzle wins.

Edit to add...
Video link:
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51. "RE: 'Snake in the Grass'"
Thanks Blind Freddy! I thought that was a puzzle bag in the original vidcap with Penner and Skrupin. Puzzle solving should favor Penner, as long as he can make the finals.

If Penner indeed wins IC, that will take away the "obvious" target. Then Pete/Abi/Artis really have no choice but to go after Kent/Carter....or Mike.

Carter's face in the new press pics is priceless! He and Kent must know they're in trouble.

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52. "RE: 'Snake in the Grass'"
Here's the screencaps of the Behind The Scenes Chal Preview...
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Transcript:

John Kirhoffer (Survivor Challenges Producer): Today's challenge is called "Snake in the Grass." The way it works, 10 people will line up on platforms and on "go" you will race out and untie a bag of puzzle pieces. You untie a series of knots and climb over the first fence then you climb under the rail. You untie another series of knots, getting another bag of puzzle pieces and climb over that fence, then you crawl under the next, then you get another bag of puzzle pieces. Once you get all three bags of puzzle pieces, you sprint about 2 and a half feet across a line. The first three across that line move onto the final round where you will solve a puzzle. That puzzle is in the form of a snake. Take all those puzzle pieces and put it together in the puzzle table. The first player to get their snake together wins Immunity and will not be voted out.

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64. "RE: 'Snake in the Grass'"
Only 3 get to solve the snake puzzle. From Next Time On it looks like Penner and Skupin are 2 of the 3 finalsts...

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54. "RE: Press Pics"
Who is that on the left?

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55. "RE: Press Pics"
I'm going with Penner. Shorts match those he has on during IC.
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56. "RE: Press Pics"
I agree. Point of comparison:

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57. "RE: Press Pics"
No, no! Not the one in the corner. The one standing and smiling! Never seen him before.
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58. "RE: Press Pics"
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Artis the Grouch must have just been told some garbage.

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63. "RE: Press Pics"
*grin* ... gotcha!
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62. "E8 web promo - RC preview"
The E8 web promo finally went up and it features the first few minutes of the RC8.

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Video link:
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Transcript:

Jeff Probst (starting Reward Challenge): Alright, we have our two teams! For the blue team, Skupin, Pete, Artis, Abi and Carter. For the yellow team, Jeff, Malcolm, Penner, Lisa and Denise. Big reward on the line here! Here we go. Survivors ready! Go! First into the water, Abi and Jeff. You gotta swim out, hook that to your fishing trap, release the buoy and then let your tribe pull you back. Jeff, at his fishing trap first. Once he gives you the high sign, start pulling him back. Abi's at her fishing trap! Jeff has got his released! Abi's released. Start pulling her!

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