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"S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-12 AT 08:39 PM (EST)

All discussion of tonight's episode here until midnight (Eastern), no siggies please.

If you have trouble being left speechless at the end of the episode, well they gave us all fair warning.

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 RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... michel 03-07-12 1
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 3
 Lightening Strike... Flowerpower 03-07-12 2
 Previously on Survivor.... Flowerpower 03-07-12 4
   RE: Previously on Survivor.... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 8
       RE: Previously on Survivor.... CTgirl 03-07-12 53
 RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... michel 03-07-12 5
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 7
 RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 6
 Post Intro.... Flowerpower 03-07-12 9
 RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 10
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... dabo 03-07-12 13
       RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 15
 Post Reward Challenge Flowerpower 03-07-12 11
   RE: Post Reward Challenge michel 03-07-12 14
       RE: Post Reward Challenge PepeLePew13 03-07-12 16
 RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... michel 03-07-12 12
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 18
       RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... michel 03-07-12 20
 Drama at Manono... Flowerpower 03-07-12 17
 RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... dabo 03-07-12 19
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 21
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... michel 03-07-12 22
       RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 23
           At TC... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 24
               RE: At TC... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 25
                   RE: At TC... michel 03-07-12 30
                       RE: At TC... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 33
                           RE: At TC... michel 03-07-12 42
                   RE: At TC... dabo 03-07-12 52
                       RE: At TC... michel 03-08-12 70
                       RE: At TC... PepeLePew13 03-08-12 80
                           RE: At TC... dabo 03-08-12 85
                               RE: At TC... michel 03-08-12 96
 Vote PepeLePew13 03-07-12 26
 Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzzles Flowerpower 03-07-12 27
   RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzz... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 31
       RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzz... michel 03-07-12 45
   RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzz... michel 03-07-12 32
   RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzz... Flowerpower 03-07-12 36
       RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzz... PepeLePew13 03-07-12 41
           RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzz... Flowerpower 03-07-12 44
   RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzz... rachelOH63 03-08-12 92
 RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... dabo 03-07-12 28
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... michel 03-07-12 34
       RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... dabo 03-07-12 40
           RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... CTgirl 03-07-12 55
               It has to be said. Karchita 03-08-12 59
                   RE: It has to be said. dabo 03-08-12 86
 Next time on Survivor: Flowerpower 03-07-12 29
   RE: Next time on Survivor: michel 03-07-12 35
       RE: Next time on Survivor: SquidProQuo 03-07-12 47
           RE: Next time on Survivor: Karchita 03-08-12 64
   RE: Next time on Survivor: slw1 03-07-12 37
       RE: Next time on Survivor: dabo 03-07-12 43
           RE: Next time on Survivor: Estee 03-07-12 46
               RE: Next time on Survivor: Flowerpower 03-08-12 76
       RE: Next time on Survivor: PepeLePew13 03-08-12 58
           RE: Next time on Survivor: Karchita 03-08-12 60
               RE: Next time on Survivor: PepeLePew13 03-08-12 68
                   RE: Next time on Survivor: Outfrontgirl 03-08-12 69
                       RE: Next time on Survivor: michel 03-08-12 71
                           RE: Next time on Survivor: Outfrontgirl 03-08-12 73
                       RE: Next time on Survivor: Nightsky 03-08-12 93
 Repeat after me. Estee 03-07-12 38
 RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... SquidProQuo 03-07-12 39
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... michel 03-07-12 48
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... Flowerpower 03-07-12 49
       RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... dabo 03-07-12 54
           RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... Flowerpower 03-08-12 77
 Congratulations! Georjanna 03-07-12 50
   Congrats Parathor! Flowerpower 03-08-12 79
       RE: Congrats Parathor! beaglemaster 03-08-12 81
           RE: Congrats Parathor! parathor 03-08-12 89
   RE: Congratulations! dabo 03-08-12 87
 Angry Naked 03-07-12 51
   RE: Angry Karchita 03-08-12 61
       RE: Angry Round Robin 03-08-12 65
           RE: Angry michel 03-08-12 72
               RE: Angry Outfrontgirl 03-08-12 74
                   RE: Angry CTgirl 03-08-12 75
                   RE: Angry PepeLePew13 03-08-12 82
                   RE: Angry parathor 03-08-12 90
                       RE: Angry byoffer 03-08-12 94
                   RE: Angry television 03-08-12 95
 RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... CTgirl 03-07-12 56
   Yes, it is! Karchita 03-08-12 62
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... Corvis 03-08-12 78
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... Snidget 03-11-12 102
 RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... mysticwolf 03-07-12 57
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... Karchita 03-08-12 63
   RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... dabo 03-08-12 66
       RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... mysticwolf 03-08-12 67
           RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thre... dabo 03-08-12 88
 Is it possible this was a ruse? samboohoo 03-08-12 83
   RE: Is it possible this was a ruse? jbug 03-08-12 84
       RE: Is it possible this was a ruse? samboohoo 03-08-12 91
           RE: Is it possible this was a ruse? Outfrontgirl 03-08-12 97
           RE: Is it possible this was a ruse? michel 03-08-12 98
               RE: Is it possible this was a ruse? Outfrontgirl 03-08-12 99
                   RE: Is it possible this was a ruse? PepeLePew13 03-08-12 100
                       RE: Is it possible this was a ruse? Round Robin 03-09-12 101

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03-07-12, 08:53 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Has anyone figured out what will happen at TC that we have never seen before? Idols have been passed along, misplayed, kept in pocket so I doubt there's anything there we haven't seen. We've also had declarations of love and memorable figths so what could it be?
Should we set a pool?

How about a slap in the face? That's never been done and this group has had many conflicts.

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3. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
One interesting bit of speculation as thrown together by jasonkola and Blind Freddy earlier today, because Jiffy mentioned in a TC preview video before the season about "if you leave TC and do not come back, you're out of the game", that could be something that happens tonight.

Let's say there's a nasty catfight (i.e. Alicia and Christina, who don't like each other very much) and someone else just says "I'm tired of this petty crap" and gets up, walks right off the TC set. Everyone's left speechless and when it's time to vote, that person hasn't come back ... so she is out. All spec but an interesting view.

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03-07-12, 08:56 PM (EST)
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2. "Lightening Strike..."
...well, we did get a possible lightening strike! Or, how about the guys tag along for the fun of it and show up at TC, or, the cat fight of the century? So many possiblities, so little time!
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4. "Previously on Survivor...."
For the first 5 days, the men were on a roll, dominating the challengges, leaving the women hanging on by a thread, but the women weathered the storm with back to back wins, but even sunshine couldn't keep them from each others throats...

The misfit alliance was between Matt and Bill...ghetto trash, he can't stand Bill....Matt was a bigger threat and he was sent home...15 left

Night time, Manono night 8, Michael says it's upsetting cause Matt when home. The old guy, the little guy, the gay guy want to vote out the strongest...Greg says that Mick will is dangerous..., Gregzan talking to the misfits...:the 5 of us are solid...so the next guy is Billy, he's very dangerous, capable of loosening the bonds that bind us with his charm....see Bill...see Leif disappear into the crate that the ropes came in....looked like he was getting into a coffin....hmmmmm?

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8. "RE: Previously on Survivor...."
That could be an interesting bit of imagery to discuss over on the editing thread - Leif climbing into a "coffin" of sorts...
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53. "RE: Previously on Survivor...."
And he's a phlebotomist, LOL!
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5. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
the recap reminded us of the epi 1 conflict between Christina and Alicia, telling us it will come into play this time.

BTW: Leif has a nice bed!

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7. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I noticed that! Let's see Michael fit into that "bed"...
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6. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
"Michael is so peripheral, we can let him hang around for a while."

Interesting comment between a couple members of the misfits alliance after the men got back to their camp after TC.

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03-07-12, 09:15 PM (EST)
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9. "Post Intro...."
Sun ius rising on Salani...day 9....see the girls getting snails....they are on the beach, Monica says sanils for breakfast, she has the first confessional, we are not starving, I'm not, it's mind over matter....

Troy and Jonas come over, they are asking them have you used the net before, here's what we are proposing, if you let us use the canoe we will let you have half of our catch with the net..

Chelsea Conf about now that they are winning, they are willing to deal

Kim: Jonas is wierd, he cares alot about getting our canoes
Troy: the women are just emotional creatures, and you here them say,
"don't think I'm a #####...well you just made a ##### move"...Hello, anybody home


RC: take turns using sling shot firing coconuts at wall of targets, in order to win, must knock out 5 targets in a row...cohice of one of three rewards, comfort, pillows blanket and mattress, or protection from rain, tarp, or luxury of donuts coffee, sugar creamer, and they are all SOOOO excited. Bill is the sit out...

Colton up for men, Monica for ladies....Colton connects but doesn't knock it out, and Monica connects but doesn't knock it out....0 - 0

Sabrina connects but knocks it out, Tarzan connects and knocks it all out, hear him tarzan yell, 1-0

Kat connects, Troy doesn't...1-1. Then some one connects for men 2-1, Leif connects but not enough, Chelsea misses, Jonas connects but not enough, Monica obliterates for the girls 2-2. Tarzan hits frame, and Sabrina connects and now they have 2 in a row, and Christina misses. Jay connects, Men have 2 connected in center row
Alicia is back, and have 3 connected, Michael way short didn't get to the target, Leif is too hight, Kim fires and connects knocking out 4 in a row....Jonas up for the men, Gregzan calls him the wrong name....OMG!

Chelsea knocks out another target 4 in a row, Colton ready, right thru emty target, and Monica WINS IT!!! Third straight challenge and a choice of reward....Guys has momentum shifted, they say it's just luck....

Girls pick the tarp....hear Monica tell them to pick the tarp....they wave bu to the men....Jiffy says now its a competitive game between the men and the women.

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10. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
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*That* is the unforgivable betrayal? Nice spin, CBS.

And you're a dumbass, Leif. Lie, lie, lie! Even the letters - L, I, E - are there in your name!

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13. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Or for that matter tell Colton STFU. What he told Bill wasn't that big a deal, really.
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15. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
As Troyzan once said, "It ain't Survivor unless you're lying."
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11. "Post Reward Challenge"
Girls are flying high...men, not so much...

Salani day 9, come home clapping..."they thought they had it in the bag...Sabrina: so good to win, Tarzan was saying it was just luck....

Men: We didn't have enough time to learn the game....see Leif in the fishing gear....Bill says we got our butts kicked..He and Lief are sitting by themselves on the beach and he tells Leif we need to just win the immunity challenges, Leif and Bill talk about going to try and find the idol...he tells Bill that "when Colton said to vote for you, I didn't want to"....Leif tells him what Colton told him to do...Bill conf: I just got wowed, now I know the gloves are off and it changes everything, Leif tells him to keep it betw us....but Michael overheard them and tells Colton...

Someone over heard him....Mike calls leif over....Mike over heard Leif telling Bill that he was next....Colton calls him out....if you lie to me again...what did you say? You told him we were after him? He says yes, Bill is more sneaky but Lief is more sneaky, no one trusts you now, you are digging your own grave, I told you to pick a side and you picked the wrong side...Leif in conf: I hope I can make up for my mistake cause if not, I could possibly be going home...

WHAT A JOKE....that's the betrayal? I knew if Colton was involved that it would amount to drama! Now what could be the big move???

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14. "RE: Post Reward Challenge"
The important point in that scene was Mike's good play, not Leif's betrayal. It would have been better to promote: "One player turns the table on another."
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16. "RE: Post Reward Challenge"
See the quote I posted up above about Michael... that plus this clearly shows he's not a major player in the game.
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12. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Did anyone catch Troyzan saying: "We didn't have enough time to learn the game"? Foreshadowing?
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18. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Speaking of foreshadowing... Christina commented just before the commercial break that Alicia's performance was really weak in the IC and she could use that to her advantage.

I think we're about to get a nasty little catfight coming up, folks.

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20. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
What I caught was that 99% of the blame was heaped on Alicia when it should have been 50-50 with Chelsea.

But yes, that TC will be nasty if the alliance protects Alicia.

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17. "Drama at Manono..."
The betrayer was Leif, telling Bill that Colton wants him gone next....Mike overheard and rats to Colton, Colton confronts Leif....poor Leif...Now, will Leif go and look for the idol with Bill?

Salani day 11...tree mail, Monica gets it...looks like a puzzle....when pairs of minds work together being well balanced helps...Kat questions whether alicia can do puzzles...Alicia conf: Kat calls me out that I can't do puzzles....Sabrina says that Kat was just saying that she's not the best at puzzles and Alicia got all bent out of shape, she says that's just stuff we don't need right now, right before the challenge...

IC: Guys come with war paint on....paired up and tied together, each pair races across teeter totters to get keys, they once all 5 are back, open locks and puzzles, when done winner...Jonas sits out...decide on pairs and lets go...

Chelsea and Alicia and Greg and Colton going over teeter totter and then solved that puzzle to get key, Colton and tarzan making progress, get the key, men done, girls behind

Now jay and Michael have to form a pyramid....Chelsea and Alicia can't figure it out....Jay and Michael are done with the second puzzle and have second key, now Troy and Bill...

Girls go and look at their puzzle, and the boys say that they are cheaters, and Chelsea tells them to kiss my #####...hard to believe that the girls still can't get it....women finally have it....Jeff can't believe they couldn't do it...

Now Sabrina and Kim are looking at the puzzle of the guys too and finish, then Troy and Bill are done with 3rd key and heading back....now Lief open 3 locks and immunity will be theirs again...he raises the flag and men win immunity!

Men congrats, women: that was a blow out...Alicia you and Chelsea were still working on first puzzle when the guys were almost done....Alicia doesn't know what was wrong, you walked over and looked at it and still couldn't get it....Chelsea is looking down with her head...Christina says in confessional that Alicia's attitude with the puzzle was so bad, but that works to my advantage, because when there is a weak link, they've got to go...

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19. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Catfight coming. Would be something if Alicia managed to talk herself into being the unanimous boot.
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21. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
It's still rather early ... 8:36, so we could be in for a real doozy of a war at TC, if not in camp. Something definitely is going to happen at TC to have this much time left in the episode and the IC already over.

*starts the popcorn*

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22. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
lots of time left too for drama
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23. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Fascinating to see the dynamics in the men's tribe. Colton wants to give up immunity and vote out Bill NOW. And some of the others are even considering the idea as well.

Leif is also getting ripped for being untrustworthy.

The ladies are overhearing the guys and saying they're off their rockers.

It's about half-half amongst the guys trying to decide if they want to go to TC now or not.

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24. "At TC..."
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-12 AT 09:52 PM (EST)

...it's the GUYS!!

No Ladies!!!

Jeff is SPEECHLESS and doing all he can to pop his eyes back into his head.

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25. "RE: At TC..."
First time we've ever seen this in 24 seasons!
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30. "RE: At TC..."
For once, it wasn't hype! I AB-SO-LU-TE-LY LOVED the way they kept the secret of the tribe entering TC. I was laughing all the time we saw torches approaching but only seeing shadows.

I see by the voting thread that this wasn't spoiled so you guys had to be as surprised as I was!

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33. "RE: At TC..."
Yep, this season is completely unspoiled so far - the only hint of anyone we have post-merge is possibly one female shown in a different buff colour doing a challenge that hasn't been seen yet, but even that could be explained by a buff-o-matic. So...enjoy this season, it's anyone's guess how the rest of the season will unfold, even if I have a reasonably solid idea who the final 3, 4, 5 could be based on the editing of the season so far.
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42. "RE: At TC..."
I remember your post in the editing thread and since those 3,4 or 5 included a few women, I think you have a good chance of being right! Men cannot be winning after this episode and the way it was edited.

Their only recourse was to vote Colton right there and then since everyone else liked Bill and Leif well enough. Now they have almost as many outsiders as alliance members. And you have to be crazy (*cough*Jonas*cough*) to still want to be part of that alliance.

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52. "RE: At TC..."
Actually, we have seen this before, this is just a different way of doing it made possible by having the tribes living in the same camp. And those differences are that it was a unanimous decision of the entire tribe, and they didn't tank a challenge in order to go to TC. We should probably have a discussion on the relative merits, determine which is the more stupid way for a tribe to voluntarily go to TC.
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70. "RE: At TC..."
I see as this being a first time because whenever a tribe threw a challenge to get rid of one of its members, even the 4 times it was done by an original tribe (Sook Jai, Drake, Aitutaki and Zapatera) they disguised their intentions. This time, they showed Salani that they had lost their marbles.

Note that those 4 tribes went into an immediate tail spin after throwing that challenge.

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80. "RE: At TC..."
This is clearly a "first-time" event - teams did throw a challenge in order to boot somebody before, but this is the first time that a team actually won a challenge, went back to camp, made a decision to give up immunity and then surprised Jeff at TC by showing up instead of the other tribe.
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85. "RE: At TC..."
We'll just have to agree to disagree, then. I see it as just a different way of going about it, one that was previously not possible except during the faux merge in Thailand. But its not worth fighting over.
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96. "RE: At TC..."
See, I don't think it was impossible before. If one tribe wanted to go to TC this badly they could have called Jeff on the "Jeff-phone" and gone to TC right there and then. I believe production would have bent over backwards to accomodate them.
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26. "Vote"
Leif
Bill
Bill
Bill
Bill
Bill

See ya, Bill.

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27. "Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzzles"
Wow, I don't know if it was Alicia or Chelsea or both, but clearly they sucked at a simple puzzle...Christina clearly is the boot decoy...

Now, for pre-tribal council drama at Salani and Manono...can't wait to hear what the big move is???

Manono day 11...Good win boys! They are thrilled, everyone of us pulled their wight...Bills says it may have saved my butt, cause I'm on the outside and it's nice to see the little red devil back at camp...Chelsea says it did look alot easier than it was, it could have been any one of us...Sabrina says that Alicia ...she is pissing me off she is dead wight with a mouth, talks to Kim, Alicia has to go...just don't know about Christina,, she's contributing alot more at camp....Kim says that Salbrina is trying to shake things up, I don't know...

Bill wants to talk to Colton...Colton doesn't want to....he just wants to talk to you, I don't know what I have done to upset you...you have been the most wishy washy...I am not talking to you, bye....Bill in conf: he won't talk to me and that gets me frustrated...Colton said I don't want to be around you, so don't follow me....he's going to vote his ##### out, no, I absolutely hate Bill, hate his jokes, wants his head on a platter, he attacked me, got up in my face. Goes to Troy and Jonas, he's crazy...would you be willing? Jonas says we should give it away...this is a huge move, but Colton says its a smart move in the end...we should give the girls our immunity idol and we should go and vote out Bill....they all cannot believe what Colton wants to do....when a group of men get togheter and make a pact....Greg says that we have a betrayal and they want to give the idol to the girls, and they want to go to TC....they say that they are going to vote out Leif....(but they really want to vote out Bill....Greg says that you have betrayed us, so you will be the first to go...Sabrina says GREAT, let them go...Kat says they have lost their moarbles, if they do this then it will give us a big boost to go to TC...Men vote on going to TC....Jay is completely bum-puzzled by this...Colton wants this to happen becaus e he wants Bill to go....Monica hopes we don't have to go to TC and vote somebody off....


TC....here comes the torches and we see the guys come and Jeff is WHAT???? Leif is crying....24 season and some 400 tc and never had a tribe arrive at TC after winning immunity??? You are at TC , the one place you don't want to be? Troy tells him everyone agrees that Leif committed the cardinal sin, and told, and now all hell is reigning down on him...Leif tells he is playing with his heart on his sleeve...Leif says that Bill asked and I told him....by putting myself up for elimination that it proves that I still have integrity in the group....Jay doesn't understand, we demolished our enemy and we are here, but Jiffy says you are here, he says well, I had to go with the majority...

Bill says this could be the single dumbest move ever...no point in going into a merge with someone that can't be trusted. Colton tells Jiffy that he doesn't like Bill...he's a struggling stand up comic...get a real job...Bill says that we come from 2 entirely different backgrounds...the differences in our upbringing, I've been on my own from age 17...truth is that's what I do...Colton where do you come from...Alabama, I went to a private all white school I do have african american people in my likfe? who? My housekeeper....I don't have a problem with him becuase of his race, don't live off of the kindness of others...bill says are you out of your mind...you are telling me that me doing my passion is wrong, don't judge me, I work with people but for no one....got that, Colton? ARe there any people that look down on you because you are gay? The ones who have a problem with it are the trailer park dumb people. Tarzan says that this conversation has devolved unfair to both guys, Colton has been painted in the wrong light as a rich kid....the whole thing of race urks me, talk about their merits and not their race....and I think that his country is moving in the right direction, we have a black President....you two may never have met in real life, and regardless how it comes out, it will be one of the craziest in history....

Time to vote, Colton says Bill, I don't like you, I'm never going to like you...so take your ##### home...

Vote tally...

Lief
Bill
Bill
Bill
Bill
fourth person voted out, Bill

OKay, where did that picture of him in the water basketball challenge come from???

WHO IS THAT IN THE FRAME ABOVE THEN, if it's not Bill????

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31. "RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzzles"
The only thing I can think of is that this shot isn't from the water basketball challenge, but from an earlier challenge - perhaps the one in episode 2 where they had to get around each other on the balance beam? Did they show Bill falling off the beam at any time? This could just be a funny-looking image that appears like he's fighting for a basketball but actually is a 'recovery' pose while falling into the water to make sure he doesn't get crushed by the other guy.
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45. "RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzzles"
Yes, we did see Bill falling off the beam.
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32. "RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzzles"
Bill-o-matic!!!

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36. "RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzzles"
He did fall off of the balance beam challenge, with Jay....in the picture above we have Coton's hands going up against him, and someone elses as well....

Sorry guys, I feel like I dropped the ball, but, the vidcaps are out there for us all to see...this vidcap is what placed Bill in the water basketball challenge...so in this picture...

Who I thought was Bill, must be Monica? Clearly, she is obscured by the thumb...Do I even dare to say that I think she's on the Manono tribe post shuffle?

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41. "RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzzles"
*skritches FloPo*

Don't be sorry - NOBODY had this happening at all and you didn't drop any ball.

I wouldn't be so quick to think that is Monica - it still looks more like a guy to me, and some of the others in that water basketball cap that have been labeled aren't who I'm completely sure they are. Let's just take a day or so to soak in this great episode then we'll put our sleuthing caps back on to figure out who's who with a fresh set of eyes.

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44. "RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzzles"
Thanks, Pepe...the voice of reason!
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92. "RE: Alicia and Chelsea SUCK at puzzles"
I wonder if they are just high 5'ing after the balance beam win?
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28. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
dumb dumb dumb
even the hype was dumb
And tonight's lesson? Shut up, just shut up, go shut up some more.
dumb dumb dumb
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34. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
You didn't like this episode?
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40. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
It was a blast! And I love that Monica is still in it, and Chelsea too.

dumb - speechless
dumb - silenced
dumb - stoopid

I guess I fell into the obscure joke trope.

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55. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I just figured you were saying the men were dumb, dumb, dumb!
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59. "It has to be said. "
I'll say it. The men were dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, and dumb!
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86. "RE: It has to be said. "
Yeah, that too. From start to finish this whole controversy was ridiculous (with the exception of Michael having a smart reason for getting the ball rolling).
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29. "Next time on Survivor:"
And, who is standing with Colton in the standouts for the Manono tribe in the

Alicia talking to Colton: All hail to the queen
Jiffy: Colton's reign continues...see Jonas say to Colton: So what is the plan?
Jonas: I could be Colton's #####, I could be whatever you want me to be...

Jiffy: but a twist knocks him off of his thrown..
See them at RC, and Jiffy says, but before we get to the challenge, and he uncovers something...must be new buffs....
Hear the girls say, OMG!
Colton: Looking around like, OH NO! I just thought, "beep"

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35. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-12 AT 10:15 PM (EST)

The best way to get justice would be to force Colton to join Bill in LL immediately!

The sad part is that Bill is too much of a nice guy to make Colton pay. Classy last words.

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47. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
Definitely agree about Bill. Total class act. The other men should be ashamed of themselves for letting Colton bully everyone.

At least they're telegraphing that Colton is being set up for a big fall. Cannot wait for that payoff.

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64. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
I liked Bill a lot!

Colton? Not so much.

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37. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
Am I the only one who thinks Colton is the WORST villain ever on Survivor? Or maybe I should say the BEST villain ever.
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43. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
He's pretty much every evil rich Republican fortunate son cliche.
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46. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
Y'know, Santorum still needs a running mate...
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76. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
Y'know, Santorum still needs a running mate...

Estee....have I ever told you that I love you and your wit??? <3 <3 <3

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58. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
*considers*

Nah, I'll still go with Russhole as the top villain.

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60. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
Fair enough. But Colton is the villian I have most wanted to slap. Even more than Johnny Fairplay.

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68. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
Can we now start calling him KKKolton?

I was reading elsewhere, it's a good thing that this was someone like Bill that it happened to and not someone like Na'Onka, or it would have gotten especially ugly.

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69. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
What would be fun to see would be one day Colton wakes up and finds himself living in a trashed-out trailer, driving an old pickup truck, and he is on welfare.

And Bill would be his social worker telling him he needs to get a job washing dishes, busing tables, or else he has to do community service picking up garbage by the side of the road.

That would be amusing.

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71. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
!! That or have Colton reduced to sleeping on Bill's couch...
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73. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
ha ha, good one, michel!
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93. "RE: Next time on Survivor:"
I would love to see this happen.
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38. "Repeat after me."
Stupid tribe!

Stupid, stupid tribe!

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39. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Unbelievable stupidity! This reminds me of when Russell's tribe threw the challenge just to get rid of him...and we saw how well that went. Jeff/CBS will make sure it goes down as one of the dumbest moves ever.

So what's making Colton say "bleep?" Buffs/swap to throw his game?

Where are the rest of the men's brains? If they had any smarts, they would have surprised Colton and voted him out tonight. He is so despicable. And even if he played the HII, Bill still goes home on the bounce and now the HII is flushed. Missed opportunity.

This show has devolved into Jerry Springer and casting people just to be outrageous vs. smart players. Very sad.

I have hopes for Jonas, Jay the model and Mike (smart move on his part to deflect the target from himself), but the rest of the men deserve to go down in flames.

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48. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
"This reminds me of when Russell's tribe threw the challenge just to get rid of him...and we saw how well that went."

There are quite a few people who think that Karma that season was spelled SEG.

As for Jonas, I think he's dumb since he's still Colton's lackey.

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49. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I agree Squid...nice to see you, BTW. WE need your eagle eyes around here to help decipher the vidcaps....come back more often!

Jay was smart, he noted he was against it but in the end he had to go with the majority. Michael was smart, because he saw a way to save himself. And Jonas is going to be good too...."I'll be Colton's biotch".

Perhaps Colton saw it as a way to endear himself to all of the ladies. With the shuffle upon us, I'd say that Colton will be the next to go...

Now, in hindsight....we were able to see that by far the drama was going to be with the guys. We pinpointed Leif as the betrayer. We got it right that the guys were going to WIN the IC, so clearly, logic pointed to a woman leaving. And, with the evidence that we had, that the only 2 not clearly seen in the vidcaps were indeed Chelsea and Monica. I don't know what more we could have figured out....so, in the end, I'm good with it!

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54. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
The hype was misleading as well. But on the bright side, OFG Theory held up.
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77. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
and, even the spec that it was a ruse, blame Leif for a betrayal, when the target was really someone else! Instead of the target being Colton, the ruse was to target Bill. So, not far off at all! I knew that the deception did fit what we had!
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50. "Congratulations!"
I'm certain that there are others who also deserve to be congratulated for correctly predicting tonight's 'response to betrayal'.

But Parathor's post - "Or maybe it's after the challenge. Men win, go back to camp, all happy... some guy is like 'I'm betraying stuff, etc.' so the rest of the group is like 'hey women, want the idol? because we're going to Tribal and kick this guy out.'" - was the one that I immediately thought of as the men arrived at Tribal Council.

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79. "Congrats Parathor!"
Way to go, Parathor! Sorry didn't even consider that the men winning and then giving the II to the girls was a valid possiblity! YOU ROCK!
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81. "RE: Congrats Parathor!"
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I've been thinking all night that someone may actually have spoilers that they are not giving out because, I remember reading that and thinking they must be nuts "that would NEVER happen", but it DID.

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89. "RE: Congrats Parathor!"
Thanks! Mmm, spoilers... ;)

I was watching that unfold last night and going "geesh, this sounds wicked familiar! someone posted this on the board, I think!" Because I totally remember reading that.

...NOT remembering that, yeah, it WAS someone... me! Too funny!

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87. "RE: Congratulations!"
And there was a new poster who keyed in on the fishing net.
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51. "Angry"
Wow, I am actually angry right now. I have tried to get cast on this show since season 1 premiered, and absolutely love this game. I am sure there are thousands of more people just like me.

Instead of casting people who want to play the game, the selected this group of morons. The sobering thought here, is that one of these idiots is going to win a million dollars.


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61. "RE: Angry"
Agreed. I am not angry, just disgusted. I wish they would cast normal people instead of the psychos they have the last few seasons. I really don't find it entertaining.

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65. "RE: Angry"
The rumor was that these losers were among the final rejects from casting previous seasons, plus a few mactors to fill out the cast. If these knuckleheads are previous casting rejects, it's sort of understandable that they aren't among the greatest Survivor players on the planet. I didn't see this episode live, but after reading this roundup I'll be sure to pick it up On Demand as soon as I get the chance, if for no other reason than to watch Probst pick his jaw up off the ground. This must have been a good one!
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72. "RE: Angry"
Funny but I think this is the best cast in a long, long time. There are normal people in there, big personalities and a few nutjobs, all clashing. Last season was the terrible one.
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74. "RE: Angry"
I agree.

Other than Colton, these guys don't seem like stereotypes, and even Colton is not your average by any means. They managed to cast people of other ethnicities who don't talk about themselves in terms of representing all the time, who just act like regular people. They cast some pretty girls and some muscle who aren't models, in contrast to Whitney last season who was such a stereotype of a "country girl." Chelsea is much more real.

They seem almost naive about the game to an extent. Like Leif. I find it refreshing. So tired of players who can't be fazed by the situation.

That said, I have had enough of Colton now, and he is free to go.

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75. "RE: Angry"
I agree too. And Colton and Troyzan especially should have known better as students of the game. Would have been interesting to see if Matt would have let them go through with it. He was a fan too and actually applied and wasn't recruited.
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82. "RE: Angry"
LAST EDITED ON 03-08-12 AT 11:17 AM (EST)

I happen to think this is a pretty fantastic cast.

Bill and Sabrina are typically the type of black people I encounter in my workplace and they are very good representatives of their race who aren't all caught up in representing or carry around a chip on their shoulder (I'm sick of the Na'Onka types, they don't represent in any way most of the people that I've known); Kim, Jay, Jonas, Christina, Chelsea, Monica, Nina, and Christina all seem like genuine people; there's a Kat-esque ditz and an Alicia-esque tart in every group; Matt and Kourtney both come across as good solid peeps in their post-game interviews; and there's even a Leif-type in my circle. Only Troyzan and Tarzan jump out like somewhat stunt-ish casting choices, and Colton is the designated drama personae of the cast who seems to be trying too hard.

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90. "RE: Angry"
> "They cast some pretty girls and some muscle who aren't models, in contrast to Whitney last season who was such a stereotype of a "country girl." Chelsea is much more real."

Totally agree! Well... mostly real ;)

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94. "RE: Angry"
I am not sure that those don't look real.

I am sure those look spectacular.

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95. "RE: Angry"
Agreed. I'm really digging this cast. Lots of drama, for sure, but not just for the sake of creating good TV. I mean, the real first in this episode was the first time in 24 seasons that people have had an interesting political discussion at tribal council... seemed much more real than the forced 'this game mirrors real life in many ways' speeches we've seen at final tribal before. Colton is detestable as a human, but great to watch on TV and root against. Much better than the Russells and Phillips of the Survivor universe who I just hate to see on the screen, rather than love to hate.
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56. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Troyzan's confessional early on about the women's emotions making them wacky and not able to think straight is HYSTERICAL in hindsight after what the men's tribe turned into!
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62. "Yes, it is!"

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78. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Ha! So true, CTGirl!
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102. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
*snort*

I spent most of the last half of the episode trying to decide if the men's tribe were suffering from mass-testosterone poisoning, or the woman slipped their birth control pills into the men's food.

Strange combination of manly men must do the manly thing talk with the kind of drama that give PMS a bad name.

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57. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
This was the first episode of Survivor I've been able to watch in 4 years. I had to tape it since I needed to be at rehearsal, but I got to watch it. Boy, did I pick a doozie to re-enter on. I haven't laughed this hard at a show in a long time. Unreal. The best part is that I'll have access to tape/watch for the rest of this month and the first couple of weeks of April. Hope that's enough to see it play out. Dayum!
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63. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Welcome back!

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66. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
CBS uploads the full episodes fairly quickly each week if you want to keep up.

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/

That said, the Redemption Island twist is just not worth watching, don't bother. Though it was pretty funny watching Russell sob.

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67. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
When I'm not petsitting--a recent thing--my only wireless Internet access when I'm not at school, a coffee shop, or a friend's house, is G3 with my iPad. It works well for many things, but streaming isn't one of them. <pout>
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88. "RE: S24 Ep4 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Computers at the library? They probably would want you to use headphones, though.
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83. "Is it possible this was a ruse?"
There was obviously a lot we didn't see. The setup made it look like they were going to TC to vote out Lief because of his betrayal. Yet, they all voted out Bill - except for Bill who was the only one to vote Lief.

Lief was too calm and too happy IMO to be going to TC with his head actually on the chopping block. There were parts of it that looked like really bad acting to me.


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84. "RE: Is it possible this was a ruse?"
I was figuring all along that IF they decided to go, it would be to vote out Bill; cause that is what Colton wanted - and apparently what Colton wants, Colton gets.
I thought they were all just stringing Jeff & Bill along so the blindside of Bill would be more dramatic.
Yes, if Lief were actually being voted out as they tried to make Jeff (& Bill) think, Lief would/could have at least fought for himself a bit.
He was taking it lying down - which made it obvious he was going nowhere.


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91. "RE: Is it possible this was a ruse?"
And that's what I meant by the whole ruse. They said they all had to agree. Why would Lief agree to go and possibly be voted out. Then Jay maybe said he agreed to do what the group wanted, which was to vote out Lief for the betrayal, but they all voted Bill.

So was the whole Lief/Colton fight a ruse?


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97. "RE: Is it possible this was a ruse?"
My take, which can't be substantiated because they cut all the footage to keep suspense up:

The fight was real.
Greg's indigation was real.
The decision to go to TC was to deal with the fracture in the tribe, loss of trust.

BUT, Colton soon realized it was an opportunity to realize what he had wanted all along, to boot Bill. Leif was subservient and apologetic. Bill got in Colton's face ...

Colton told us he would get what he wanted. Clearly he went around and worked on the guys between the decision and the TC, and secured the votes. I imagine he argued that Bill was far more dangerous as a disruptive force than the chastened Leif.

Did he tell Leif he would make it go against Bill? I'm sure he did, but Leif had to be nervous anyway until he heard how the votes were going. Then he had a little smile.

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98. "RE: Is it possible this was a ruse?"
LAST EDITED ON 03-08-12 AT 06:23 PM (EST)

I believe it played out pretty much like we saw: Colton always had Bill in mind but he also hated Leif's deception so he pitted both against each other. As a result, everyone saw that Bill wanted to go to TC only because he thought Leif would go while Leif wanted to go to TC to rebuild trust with his group. The group either realized that Leif was being honest or they felt sorry for him, leaving Bill on the block.

The edit only left out the final discussion where the misfits agreed and told Mike and Jay about it, probably adding: "If you tell Bill, we'll be back at TC to go after you."

ETA: If only they had all realized that the real divider was Colton himself.....

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99. "RE: Is it possible this was a ruse?"
My son, who watches with me, was all excited, saying, so obviously they're going to bounce Colton, right? I said, sadly, no ... (knowing that Colton was in a later challenge cap). He said, wtf is wrong with those people? Obviously this is the moment to vote Colton when he is confident and isn't going to play his idol.
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100. "RE: Is it possible this was a ruse?"
My wife said almost exactly the same thing! She was so sure that Colton was going and mentioned that near the end of TC, and I said, "Sorry, it's not him" and she said, "Huh, are you sure? There's no way he can survive this!"
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101. "RE: Is it possible this was a ruse?"
Colton's Misfits Alliance is too solid. He ain't going noplace till after the swap or the merge when he won't have the numbers anymore. If there were no swap upcoming, Michael would be next man up on the chopping block.
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