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"S24 E3 Vidcaps"
Place for discussion of E3 vidcaps
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 E3 - Next Time on Survivor (preview... Blind Freddy 02-23-12 1
   Curious dabo 02-23-12 2
       RE: Curious Flowerpower 02-23-12 3
   RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (pre... Flowerpower 02-23-12 4
       RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (pre... jasonkola 02-23-12 5
           RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (pre... dabo 02-23-12 6
               RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (pre... Flowerpower 02-23-12 7
                   RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (pre... Blind Freddy 02-23-12 8
                       RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (pre... Flowerpower 02-23-12 10
               RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (pre... parathor 02-23-12 9
                   RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (pre... PepeLePew13 02-23-12 20
                       RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (pre... dabo 02-23-12 21
 E3 Webpromo Blind Freddy 02-23-12 11
   RE: E3 Webpromo Blind Freddy 02-23-12 12
       RE: E3 Webpromo jasonkola 02-23-12 14
   RE: E3 Webpromo VolcanicGlass 02-23-12 13
       RE: E3 Webpromo Blind Freddy 02-23-12 15
           RE: E3 Webpromo VolcanicGlass 02-23-12 16
               RE: E3 Webpromo tribephyl 02-23-12 18
       WoooHoooo! Flowerpower 02-23-12 22
           Matt or Troyzan Outfrontgirl 02-24-12 24
   RE: E3 Webpromo tribephyl 02-23-12 17
       RE: E3 Webpromo Blind Freddy 02-23-12 19
   RE: E3 Webpromo Blind Freddy 02-24-12 23
       RE: E3 Webpromo Outfrontgirl 02-24-12 25
           RE: E3 Webpromo Flowerpower 02-24-12 26
           RE: E3 Webpromo Blind Freddy 02-24-12 27
               RE: E3 Webpromo Outfrontgirl 02-24-12 28
   RE: E3 Webpromo Outfrontgirl 02-25-12 32
       RE: E3 Webpromo jasonkola 02-26-12 33
 5 seconds promo VolcanicGlass 02-25-12 29
   RE: 5 seconds promo Outfrontgirl 02-25-12 31
       RE: 5 seconds promo Flowerpower 02-26-12 34
 PIP Promo VolcanicGlass 02-25-12 30
   RE: PIP Promo jasonkola 02-26-12 35
       RE: PIP Promo Outfrontgirl 02-26-12 36
           RE: PIP Promo jasonkola 02-26-12 38
               RE: PIP Promo beaglemaster 02-26-12 39
                   RE: PIP Promo dabo 02-26-12 44
 Time frames Outfrontgirl 02-26-12 37
   Tarzan has a boo boo? beaglemaster 02-26-12 40
       RE: Tarzan has a boo boo? dabo 02-26-12 43
       RE: Tarzan has a boo boo? dabo 02-29-12 68
   RE: Time frames VolcanicGlass 02-26-12 41
       RE: Time frames Outfrontgirl 02-26-12 46
           RE: Time frames VolcanicGlass 02-26-12 48
               RE: Time frames Outfrontgirl 02-26-12 49
               RE: Time frames jasonkola 02-26-12 50
                   RE: Time frames Outfrontgirl 02-27-12 51
                       RE: Time frames jasonkola 02-27-12 52
                           RE: Time frames dabo 02-27-12 53
                               RE: Time frames Outfrontgirl 02-27-12 54
                                   RE: Time frames jasonkola 02-27-12 56
                                       RE: Time frames VolcanicGlass 02-27-12 57
                                           RE: Time frames jasonkola 02-27-12 58
                   RE: Time frames VolcanicGlass 02-27-12 55
   Why I think the women win RC beaglemaster 02-26-12 42
       RE: Why I think the women win RC Blind Freddy 02-26-12 45
       RE: Why I think the women win RC jasonkola 02-26-12 47
 fishing gear? beaglemaster 02-27-12 59
   RE: fishing gear? jasonkola 02-27-12 60
       RE: fishing gear? Blind Freddy 02-27-12 61
           RE: fishing gear? jasonkola 02-27-12 62
               RE: fishing gear? Outfrontgirl 02-27-12 63
 BTS Chal Preview - Dreamers Blind Freddy 02-28-12 64
 Press photos up Outfrontgirl 02-28-12 65
   RE: Press photos up jasonkola 02-28-12 66
   RE: Press photos up Blind Freddy 02-29-12 67

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02-23-12, 01:14 AM (EST)
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1. "E3 - Next Time on Survivor (preview)"
Here's the E3 preview....

Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZxcYzxRIuc

Vidcaps courtesy of Survivor Fever (ty Mayan)
http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s24_ep3_2_22.html

Transcript:
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Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor, it's men versus women and chivalry is dead.

Monica (at Manono's camp with Kat): Is there anyway that we could possibly have an ember?

Colton (camera confessional): I'm a Republican. I do not believe in handouts.

Bill (camera confessional): One World is out the window.

Probst: And the women of Salani hand on for dear life.

(Sabrina sitting in shelter, teeth chattering)

Kim: The problem is they're starting to believe we cannot win.

Chelsea: I am so friggin cold
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02-23-12, 02:04 AM (EST)
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2. "Curious"
Bill is the only Frat4 shown here. Per OFG Theory Bill could be next.
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02-23-12, 07:30 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Curious"
Dabo....Bill cannot be next because he is seen in the next episode in the water basketball challenge. The boot will be either Matt, Troyzan, or Monica. Everyone else is accounted for...including Chelsea...she is seen in front of Sabrina, a member of the orange tribe.



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02-23-12, 12:28 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (preview)"
LAST EDITED ON 02-23-12 AT 12:29 PM (EST)

Shots of the girls tribe failing with the fire, Monica and Kat go and ask the guys for embers, with Colton dissing them - I'm Republican, I don't believe in hand outs, then so many shots of them MISERABLE, freezing in the cold rain in the flimsy shelter, and then Kim's confessional...

Kim: The problem is they're starting to believe we cannot win.

This is ALL classic misdirection because we already know this...

The girls are WINNING!

Please review the challenge shots here. I wouldn't be surprised if both these challenges were in episode 3, and I am banking on the women winning both....food for thought.

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02-23-12, 03:18 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (preview)"
Another preview posted by CBS. Here is a link.

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2200786341/survivor-one-world-episode-3

It looks like CBS ins hinting at Mats fate in the game.
I would download it and post pics but I do not know how to unless someone posts it to YouTube.

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02-23-12, 03:36 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (preview)"
Ahhh. OFG Theory shifts, Matt tries to secure Troy's vote, Troy doesn't mind telling a lie. Strong indicator Manono goes to TC, Matt is set up for a blindside.
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7. "RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (preview)"
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Thanks for posting the link, Jason! This proves that the belted challenge will be this episode, and that the girls will win it. Yes, Matt is in trouble because Colton and his misfits will strike...

I will wait for the vidcaps to come out, but it seemed like Troyzan was talking to Colton, with JAY, right in the middle saying, "Matt is so dangerous to me right now"...Has Colton told everyone but Matt that he has the idol???


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8. "RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (preview)"
LAST EDITED ON 02-23-12 AT 04:38 PM (EST)

Michael knows Colton has the HII...as per E2 Insider videos transcripts - 'Michael vs Colton' video.

OT - the caps are in process...

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10. "RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (preview)"
Thanks for the heads up on the insider video transcripts, BF. That is a problem, imo, then if they all know that Colton has the idol...?
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9. "RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (preview)"
Plus Matt had a spike/disappearance in confessionals. That's two or three strikes for Matt!
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20. "RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (preview)"
How is it a spike in Episode 1?
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21. "RE: E3 - Next Time on Survivor (preview)"
I think "spike/disappearance" refers to either a big jump or a big drop in confessionals, Matt went from 4 in ep1 to 0 in ep2.
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02-23-12, 06:13 PM (EST)
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11. "E3 Webpromo"
LAST EDITED ON 02-23-12 AT 08:01 PM (EST)

Here's the E3 webpromo
Video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSqAm7F0EKE&feature=player_profilepage

Vicaps courtesy of Survivor Fever (ty Mayan Sun)
http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s24_ep3_wp.html

Transcript:
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Announcer: Survivor, Wednesday, the battle of the men versus the women has
just begun.

Jeff Probst: You need to move, women!

Announcer: And already things are falling apart.

Chelsea: I'm losing it. I'm so friggin cold.

Announcer: Alliances are breaking.

Colton (camera confessional): I dislike so many of these people.

Announcer: Tensions are rising.

Alicia (talking to men's tribe): I just don't think your deals are fair.

Jay: She's an idiot.

Announcer: And the lies...

Jay Matt (to Troy): We're in an alliance?

Troy: Of course.

Troy (talking to Colton and Jay): Matt is so dangerous to me, dude.

Announcer: This is just the beginning.

Troy (camera confessional): It aint Survivor unless you're lying
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Edit to correct transcript (ty Tribephyl)

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02-23-12, 06:17 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
And this looks like they were playing for Immunity!...the ImIdol?

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14. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
That is interesting. I thought for sure this was a RC. So dose that mean the Cocoa connection is the reward challenge? Or dose it mean there is no RC and the cocoa connection is in ep 4?
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13. "RE: E3 Webpromo"

On another note, they tend to way overdo the special effects in promos these days, but this one is different.


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15. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
Whoo Hoo nice to have you drop by VG!

Awesome cap of those effects. Is Troy's face melting...lol?

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16. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
Hi BF.

>Is
>Troy's face melting...lol?

Easier to see in full size caps, but I didn't think they were worth posting. Instead of doing a dissolve, they did a cut-out from one sequence to the other. It's overworked, but I don't remember them doing it this way previously. Not subtle, of course.

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18. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
cut out of some palm leaves, stroking out until completely faded to new scene.
Kinda cool.
I love their font changes for this season too.
They must have a new graphics leader.
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02-23-12, 09:14 PM (EST)
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22. "WoooHoooo!"
Freddy, thanks so much for posting the new promo and for noting the II! That settles it then, the GIRLS WIN! So, it's either Matt or Troyzan....hmmmm.

THRILLED to see you here, VG! Excellent observations, as always! So hope you will work your vidcap magic this season!

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02-24-12, 07:12 AM (EST)
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24. "Matt or Troyzan"

kind of like the Chelsea and Nina shot last week, candidates shown together.

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17. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
one small change in the transcript...

Announcer: And the lies...

Jay Matt (to Troy): We're in an alliance?

Troy: Of course.

Troy (talking to Colton and Jay): Matt is so dangerous to me, dude.

Announcer: This is just the beginning.

Troy (camera confessional): It ain't Survivor unless you're lying.

Once Matt finds out from Jay, Mike and Bill that Troy thinks he's dangerous, the target will be firmly planted on Troy.
Just what the misfits were hoping for.
Matt is a goner.

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19. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
Thanks Tribe for the catch..I'll edit that in
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23. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
Ok...what's happening here?
Ftr...both Troy and Matt have tan shirts on during the IC.

JP is yelling at the women: "you need to move women!"

And we have visible (l to r) Troy...JP....Michael. Troy and Michael are both looking away from the course action while JP is looking and yelling toward the course action. Troy and Michael have their blindfolds renmoved and don't appear to be doing anything but looking ahead.

Since Troy and Greg competed together and Matt and Michael competed together...it might be speced that Greg is off screen to the left of Troy and Matt is off screen to the right of Michael. However when the video plays, JP walks to the left and Greg is ot seen. But at the start of the sequence a tan shirt is seen to the right of Michael. Is this Matt?

Could they be watching Bill working to solve the puzzle? It's when the chal gets close to finishing that JP usually yells to encourage the other tribe to step on it. I can't imaginge that Bill could start to solve until all the teams and their puzzle bags were there at the end. Are the guys ahead at this stage? If so then the 'communication' problems remain with the gals. How do they pull it out to end up celebrating in the early vidcaps. Is Bill just unable to solve the puzzle?

Lots of questions here....any ideas?

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25. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
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LAST EDITED ON 02-24-12 AT 07:25AM (EST)

Really good work, BF!
Blindfolds off, and indeed Jeff only yells when the pressure is on.
It's been known to happen that someone chokes on a puzzle.

In the celebration, Matt and Michael, Troyzan and Greg are in the same order you just pointed out (with Leif in front of them). Kim is crossing open space to congrat Sabrina, who has finished the puzzle on the other side of the roped off area where the contestants are waiting, while Bill is not in the shot. He may be still at the puzzle station.


We don't see the puzzle station, but maybe the rock wall behind JP is part of the same wall near where the idol is sitting, which would be near the finish point?


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26. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
I agree with OFG's assessement. They must get 3 couples to compete gathering puzzle pieces around the course blindfolded. Once they have their pieces, they bring them to a certain spot, most likely over by Jiffy. Then 2 of them perhaps, solve the puzzle. Looks like the girls are farther behind when Jiffy yells to them to pick it up! Then, as OFG specs it is most likely that Sabrina is a puzzle solver for Salani, and Bill most likely is one for Manono...

Manono: Sit outs: Jay, Colton, Pairs: Jonas/Leif, Troy/Tarzan, Mike/Mat, puzzle solver: Bill

Salani: Pairs: Monica/Christina, Kat/Alicia, Kim/Chelsea?, puzzle solver: Sabrina

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27. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
Good thinking OFG.

I had noticed the orange tribal mat before but just thought of it as the start mat. Perhaps it is also the finish mat as well.

This must be when they first start the chal...they are all bunched together with Greg and Troy still waiting for directions from Bill, their 'Caller'.
Note that Jonas' shirt clearly shows the patterns and has 'color' showing b/c it is dry at the start.
And also note the rope stretching across behind them.

Then later in the series we see Jonas and Leif back again at the mat area, only this time Jonas' shirt is very dark...b/c it is wet. Leif is standing somewhat separate from Jonas and far enough away that they *could* be unhooked? Jonas appears to be trying to find the red/orange puzzle bag dropped(?) on the ground? Are Leif and Jonas done with their task? While they still have their blindfolds on, they might have to wait blindfolded until all the pairs have finished their tasks and returned to the mat...then are able to take their blindfolds off.
Note the location of the blue tribal banner to their left and the location of Colton/Jay as sitouts and also the rope stretching across behind Jonas.

Now compare those locations(Colton/Jay sitouts) & blue tribal banner) with the celebration pics. They look as tho they tend to match up to the same w/re to that mat location.
Note the rope stretching across in front of the gals celebrating....and Sabrina appears to be on the other side of the rope barrier. Appearing to be returning to celebrate w/her tribemates after successfully completing the puzzle?

And finally...putting it all together...while I can't see the 'finish' the rope in front of Troy and Michael b/c it is low and the pic is a close up, I believe they are standing w/blindfolds off on their initial start and finish mat on one side of the rope watching while their Caller(Bill), out of frame, attempts to solve the puzzle on the rope's(unseen in this pic) other side.
Just as OFG and FloPo have speced above.

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28. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
Always thrilled if I can contribute even a little to the vidcap spec.

I think you guys have it nailed with the two latest posts. I think that Leif and Jonas are most likely still tethered, as they are blindfolded. It probably goes take off blindfolds before release tethers.

I would have expected two puzzle solvers, but we see all the other girls on the other side of the rope. I don't see Jonas, but he's probably just behind Kim and the girls.

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32. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
Kona at MESS posted (and made the enlargement?) of the reward table at the RC,
showing a basket, snorkel mask, fins.

I think Jonas might be holding the basket here, and the black snorkel gear from the table is hanging on the horizontal pole to the right. So the men win and look pleased with themselves, which leaves the girls needing to make deals even more than before?

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33. "RE: E3 Webpromo"
I know It looks like the guys win but I could have sworn I seen those flippers at the girls camp in a pic. I remember thinking how did those girls get those flippers. Now I am going to start searching till I find the pic.
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31. "RE: 5 seconds promo"
Thanks, VG!

This is great seeing more of the challenge set-up.

Does look like Coco Connection slingshot is Ep 4 (still pre-swap).

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34. "RE: 5 seconds promo"
VG: Thanks so much for posting vidcaps here! They are great!!

OFG: Agree, and thanks to someone for blowing up the reward table and noting the scuba gear and basket, clearly the guys are winning the RC. And, the elation at winning their first challenge and their first IC will be monumental for the women!

Does look like Coco Connection slingshot is Ep 4 (still pre-swap).

This seals the deal for me. VG has posted the ep 3 RC, and we now have the ep 3 IC, belted challenge, so the Coco Connection slingshot challenge will be the episode 4 RC. AFTER the RC, they WILL have the tribal shuffle. We know this because all of our survivors, less either Matt or Troyzan are definitely present post shuffle.

Coco Connection = RC ep 4
Water basketball challenge = IC ep 4

One thing that we always had right was the sequence. With the vidcaps we had of all of the challenges, we were able to place the belted challenge before the slingshot challenge, accurately!

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30. "PIP Promo"
Mostly footage from the other promos, but a couple of additional sequences. Only posting the larger format of the new footage, since the quality for the rest is better in other promos.












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35. "RE: PIP Promo"
LAST EDITED ON 02-26-12 AT 00:57 AM (EST)

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I know OFG posted above that it looks like the guys win the IR but I thought I had seen a pic of girls with those flippers at their camp. Sure enough I found it. It was in the video I had downloaded to my computer of the promo earlier in the week. Here is the pic. It looks like if the guys did win some how the girls ended up with them. Check it out.


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36. "RE: PIP Promo"
Good find!
Isn't there a VO from the girls about making deals?
They may have traded something.
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38. "RE: PIP Promo"
Sense Chelsea is an experienced scoba diver and spear fisher they may have promised to share the fish they catch if they could use them.
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39. "RE: PIP Promo"
More likely the women do win RC and then trade the winnings for fire from the guys. They don't seem have anything else the guys need or want to make any deals with except maybe the reward.

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44. "RE: PIP Promo"
Should have been nicer when Mike tended their fire for nothing in return, now they're back to demand in the supply-demand dynamic.
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37. "Time frames"
Just putting some caps together to try to get a sense of the story ...

We know that Day One is the storm, and the RC is probably the day after when they are miserable and cold, and dressed in warmest clothes. During that period, Christina and Monica beg for embers.

Here they are at the RC:

It might be afterwards when Alicia says that the guys' "deals" are not fair, because Jonas has on his long sleeved shirt, and Alicia is wearing the same brown top.
Alicia (talking to men's tribe): I just don't think your deals are fair.

When Jonas is holding the reward basket, it's not right after the RC, it's before or after the IC, per the clothing:



So, the men lose IC, why are Troy and Bill looking happy? Before IC maybe?

They are going to get soaking wet in the challenge and covered with the paint water, so maybe it's before.

We also see shots of the men in the sun with no shirts, and we see laundry around the camp. Maybe the shirtless scenes are post IC when they've taken off the soaked clothing?


Colton not shirtless but not wearing his green shirt that we see.

Here the frat boys are pensive and look kind of down -- no shirts.

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40. "Tarzan has a boo boo?"
Greg has what looks to me like a home made green bandage on his left shin at both RC and IC. I went back and checked and his leg was fine at the rope challenge. He did however have something tied around his leg while he did his little fireside dance on day 4. The new one seems to cover a much larger area so I think what ever is going on it must be getting worse. Wonder if we will hear anything about it?
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43. "RE: Tarzan has a boo boo?"
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below knee


over just below knee (different shorts)


sitting out

On review, it may not be larger but slips down when he's in motion.

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68. "RE: Tarzan has a boo boo?"
It looks like he got a scrape on his shin during the RC on day 4. The scrape can be seen during Bill's confessional before they cut to Bill in his confessional spot.
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41. "RE: Time frames"
It is actually raining during the RC, not that it's very obvious in single vidcaps. You have to compare one to the other to see it.

FWIW, Bill is wearing his buff as he did at the RC in that sequence. Also, not a huge point, but it is Troy holding the basket, not Jonas.

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46. "RE: Time frames"
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>FWIW, Bill is wearing his buff
>as he did at the
>RC in that sequence.

So you think it may be soon after the challenge after all, only they have taken off their outerwear?

In the cap I had seen, Troyzan's arm was clearly not holding anything ...

I hadn't seen this cap ... posted by Kona at MESS.

So neither of them are holding anything ... it is just a moment where they are coming together and semi high fiving?

This is what I do when I see caps but I don't know where the video is to view the scene in motion. I lose track of which clip is which. This is the second time in the last few days I have made a mistake that I wouldn't have if I'd had the video context.

I think maybe we should be posting video links with the caps each time, if that is possible.

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48. "RE: Time frames"
>So you think it may be
>soon after the challenge after
>all, only they have taken
>off their outerwear?

I posted that more as a placeholder, to remind myself to check whether the buff patterns aligned.

>So neither of them are holding
>anything ... it is just
>a moment where they are
>coming together and semi high
>fiving?

Troyzan is holding fins.


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49. "RE: Time frames"
Thanks! I thought I saw fins there. (I see a lot of fins where I live.)

I see orange under Bill's chin at the challenge, and a fold of teal in the camp shot. You?

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That looks like he is holding the pair of black tennis shoes and the shirt he was wearing at the IC than flippers.

I also noticed in the EP2 pics where the men were shown with fishing gear. Those pics are obviously from EP3.

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51. "RE: Time frames"
The photo is not from Ep 3, jasonkola. It has a time-stamp of Aug 4, 2011, which by TDT's calendar was Day 4 of the filming, first day of episode 2.

Press photos typically have a date stamp. Vidcaps we have no such luck.

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52. "RE: Time frames"
The only way that pic can be from episode 2 is if the guys got that gear off the truck. They only won the tarp in episode 2. They do not have the reward with the fishing gear till episode 3 as shown above.
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53. "RE: Time frames"
There is someone out there (well, more than one, but one who does it routinely) who knows how to read the timestamps. It can be a little confusing for establishing direct timelines, different cameras may be set for different time zones, but the differences are in hours not days.
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54. "RE: Time frames"
guys, I checked the time stamp myself just now. The camera records the date the shot was taken and embeds it in what is called EXIF data, which remains viewable unless it is blocked or the image is copied.

The image was shot in Ep 2, which means the gear Jonas has came off the truck.

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56. "RE: Time frames"
It seems really odd that they would have a reward challenge for something one of the tribes already has. It would seem to only benefit one tribe to win. Plus we have not seen any guys catching or eating any fish. I remain skeptical that they got that gear off the truck.
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57. "RE: Time frames"
When the tribes arrived at camp, there was a sequence shown of Jonas carrying the fishing gear. For those who want to double check for themselves, it is at about the 13 minute mark of the broadcast time.

From a production POV, should Manono win fishing gear, lots of potential drama, deals to be made, feelings to be hurt, all the while a tribal swap looms in the horizon.

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58. "RE: Time frames"
Oh Yah I had forgotten about that. Thanks for pointing that out I had been looking for evidence from the truck unloading scene. That saved me a lot of searching. So we are still do not know for sure if the women win or if the guys win and trade it to the women for something. I am leaning toward the women winning.
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55. "RE: Time frames"

>That looks like he is holding
>the pair of black tennis
>shoes and the shirt he
>was wearing at the IC

I was just coming over to correct that.
Thanks for catching it.

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42. "Why I think the women win RC"
LAST EDITED ON 02-26-12 AT 03:11 PM (EST)

I'm not sure how to give proper credits for the caps I'm using other than to say I picked them all up here in this thread.


I think the women win RC and use the reward to get fire from the men

1st cap shows

fishing gear is the reward

2nd the women have them after RC

lower left.... and no fire

3rd Kat and Monica beg for an ember

and leave empty handed

4th Alicia says I just don't think your deals are fair

5th smoke from fire blowing around as Chelsea complains about being cold

You may have to watch the clip a few times to be sure for yourself but I'm convinced it's smoke.

6th men have the reward now

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45. "RE: Why I think the women win RC"
Very nicely laid out there, beaglemaster!
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47. "RE: Why I think the women win RC"
Interesting. I never thought of that option. That makes sense. I am just glad I was able to contribute with that pic. I think I am going to start downloading videos that are released and start going through them frame be frame. Survivor Fever dose a great job but they do not post every frame on the site as there is just too many frames in a video. I just wish I had as good an eye as some of the people around here at spotting spoiler evidence. I did catch those flippers though so I am getting better.
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59. "fishing gear?"

Now that it has been cleared up by OFG and VG that the swim fins and Hawaii'n sling were on the truck, they can't be part of the reward episode 3.

It is still possible that the snorkel and mask are part of the reward.

(hanging on stick bottom right)

I personally can't find them pre episode 3 but that does blow my theory that the women trade the fins for fire. I still like to think that they did win and use the reward to barter, but with nothing left to back that up I have to say it's just speculation on my part.

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60. "RE: fishing gear?"
Pic from episode 2 vid caps. I wish I knew how to read the time date stamp on these pics. I looked at the data my browser provided after right clicking and inspecting element. It shows me a ton of data related to the pic but i can not find the time date stamp.


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61. "RE: fishing gear?"
Nice catch jasonkola....

The Bill pic is from the E2 Press Pics group ....

8/4/2011 3:19PM (unadjusted)

So that's Day 4 (approx).
Guys we're sliding backwards here...lol. What the heck *is* the Reward?

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62. "RE: fishing gear?"
I agree we are back to square one. I really think that looks like flippers and a mask on the left side of that cart. It suppose it is possible they put fishing gear up as a reward just to create drama to encourage the tribes to trade and negotiate if the winner already had the gear. Who knows. We do know the girls had flippers in their camp so either they traded for them or won them.
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63. "RE: fishing gear?"
To get the time stamp on a photo, open the photo in a new window. Save it to a photo program (like iPhoto if you use Mac). When you view the photo, there is a box to the left with the EXIF data.

If the photo is copied, it will have the data from the day the file was last changed, so don't use a version that someone has marked up with arrows or anything like that.

Fishing gear is still a good reward, and about right for Ep 3. They don't like to actually give the tribes food this early on.

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64. "BTS Chal Preview - Dreamers"
The BTS chal preview video is up and it shows the IC (as confirmed by Kirhoffer in VO)

Video here credit VG:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YEEexOuj5w

Vidcaps hosted by Survivor Fever (ty Mayan Sun) here:
http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_s24_ep3_challenge.html

In the 'Ow Pairs' blind folded challenge, producer John Kirhoffer explains how the teams must work in pairs while going through a series of obstacles in order to collect missing pieces that are needed to complete a puzzle.

Transcript:
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John Kirhoffer: We're getting ready to do Ow Pairs. It's our blindfolded challenge where they run through a series of obstacles out in the field and they get puzzle pieces from a tower with a bucket of water in it. They pull on a rope, water spills on 'em, the puzzle pieces spill out, they bring the puzzle pieces back, 5 bags of puzzle pieces, somebody will solve the puzzle. The first tribe to solve their puzzle wins Immunity
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65. "Press photos up"
I have only seen the thumbnails posted so far (Kona at MESS), but the RC is called "Shut Your Trap." RC is run on Day 6, IC on Day 8. One day of camp life in the middle.
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66. "RE: Press photos up"
Another video up. I can not download it so here is a link.

http://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/video?watch=7had2ipq6d

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67. "RE: Press photos up"
E3 Press Pics

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