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"To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot Spoilers ... "
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Don't read if you don't want to kno... |
Scarlett O Hara |
09-25-11 |
1 |
RE: Don't read if you don't want to... |
Outfrontgirl |
09-25-11 |
2 |
RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot S... |
Belle Book |
09-26-11 |
3 |
Ep 5 |
dabo |
10-08-11 |
4 |
RE: Ep 5 |
PepeLePew13 |
10-08-11 |
5 |
RE: Ep 5 |
Outfrontgirl |
10-08-11 |
6 |
RE: Ep 5 |
tribephyl |
10-09-11 |
7 |
RE: Ep 5 |
PepeLePew13 |
10-09-11 |
13 |
Duel Spoiler |
Outfrontgirl |
10-09-11 |
8 |
Challenge ep 5 spoiler |
Outfrontgirl |
10-09-11 |
9 |
The HII |
tribephyl |
10-09-11 |
10 |
RE: The HII |
Outfrontgirl |
10-09-11 |
11 |
RE: The HII |
tribephyl |
10-09-11 |
12 |
RE: The HII |
Outfrontgirl |
10-09-11 |
14 |
Ep 6 |
tribephyl |
10-17-11 |
15 |
RE: Ep 6 |
kiki_k |
10-17-11 |
16 |
RE: Ep 6 |
Krautboy |
10-17-11 |
17 |
RE: Ep 6 |
kiki_k |
10-17-11 |
18 |
RE: Ep 6 |
Flowerpower |
10-17-11 |
19 |
RE: Ep 6 |
Brownroach |
10-17-11 |
20 |
RE: Ep 6 |
PepeLePew13 |
10-17-11 |
22 |
RE: Ep 6 |
KObrien_fan |
10-17-11 |
24 |
RE: Ep 6 |
emydi |
10-17-11 |
25 |
RE: Ep 6 |
kiki_k |
10-17-11 |
26 |
Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
kiki_k |
10-17-11 |
27 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
Flowerpower |
10-18-11 |
31 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
Modesty |
10-18-11 |
32 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
emydi |
10-18-11 |
33 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
Modesty |
10-18-11 |
35 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
kiki_k |
10-18-11 |
36 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
Modesty |
10-18-11 |
37 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
kiki_k |
10-18-11 |
38 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
Modesty |
10-18-11 |
39 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
kiki_k |
10-18-11 |
40 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
KObrien_fan |
10-19-11 |
41 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
kiki_k |
10-19-11 |
43 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
PepeLePew13 |
10-19-11 |
44 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
Outfrontgirl |
10-19-11 |
47 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
kiki_k |
10-19-11 |
49 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
Brownroach |
10-19-11 |
46 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
Belle Book |
10-18-11 |
34 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
emydi |
10-19-11 |
42 |
RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy |
Belle Book |
10-19-11 |
45 |
RE: Ep 6 |
Blind Freddy |
10-17-11 |
21 |
RE: Ep 6 |
kiki_k |
10-17-11 |
28 |
RE: Ep 6 |
Brownroach |
10-17-11 |
23 |
RE: Ep 6 |
kiki_k |
10-17-11 |
29 |
RE: Ep 6 |
Brownroach |
10-17-11 |
30 |
RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot S... |
Georjanna |
10-19-11 |
48 |
RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot S... |
Georjanna |
10-20-11 |
50 |
Week 7 Spoilers |
Modesty |
10-20-11 |
51 |
RE: Week 7 Spoilers |
kiki_k |
10-20-11 |
52 |
ep7 bump |
dabo |
10-22-11 |
53 |
Episode 7 |
kiki_k |
10-22-11 |
54 |
RE: Episode 7 |
Belle Book |
10-22-11 |
55 |
Out of turn MaxxFisher partial spoi... |
kiki_k |
10-26-11 |
56 |
Wrong |
Brownroach |
10-27-11 |
57 |
Just thinking.... |
Flowerpower |
10-27-11 |
58 |
RE: Just thinking.... |
KObrien_fan |
10-27-11 |
59 |
RE: Just thinking.... |
dabo |
10-27-11 |
60 |
RE: Just thinking.... |
PepeLePew13 |
10-27-11 |
61 |
RE: Just thinking.... |
dabo |
10-27-11 |
64 |
RE: Just thinking.... |
PepeLePew13 |
10-27-11 |
66 |
RE: Just thinking.... |
dabo |
10-28-11 |
69 |
RE: Just thinking.... |
Outfrontgirl |
10-27-11 |
62 |
RE: Just thinking.... |
dabo |
10-27-11 |
63 |
RE: Just thinking.... |
kiki_k |
10-27-11 |
65 |
RE: Just thinking.... |
PepeLePew13 |
10-27-11 |
67 |
RE: Just thinking.... |
kiki_k |
10-27-11 |
68 |
Spoiling the Spoilers |
Krautboy |
10-28-11 |
70 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
kiki_k |
10-28-11 |
71 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Belle Book |
10-28-11 |
72 |
Maxx: clue or opinion? |
OllieKat |
10-29-11 |
73 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
kiki_k |
10-29-11 |
74 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
parathor |
10-31-11 |
86 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Flowerpower |
10-29-11 |
75 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Belle Book |
10-29-11 |
76 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Brownroach |
10-29-11 |
78 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Flowerpower |
10-29-11 |
79 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Belle Book |
10-29-11 |
80 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Krautboy |
10-29-11 |
77 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Flowerpower |
10-29-11 |
81 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Brownroach |
10-30-11 |
83 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Round Robin |
10-31-11 |
85 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
parathor |
10-31-11 |
87 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Krautboy |
10-31-11 |
88 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
kiki_k |
10-29-11 |
82 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Belle Book |
10-30-11 |
84 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Flowerpower |
10-31-11 |
89 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
Belle Book |
10-31-11 |
90 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
PepeLePew13 |
10-31-11 |
91 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
dabo |
10-31-11 |
92 |
RE: Spoiling the Spoilers |
SereSurvivor |
11-01-11 |
93 |
RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot S... |
Outfrontgirl |
11-01-11 |
94 |
RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot S... |
dabo |
11-02-11 |
95 |
RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot S... |
Brownroach |
11-02-11 |
96 |
RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot S... |
PepeLePew13 |
11-02-11 |
98 |
RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot S... |
Belle Book |
11-02-11 |
97 |
RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot S... |
KObrien_fan |
11-02-11 |
100 |
RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot S... |
Outfrontgirl |
11-02-11 |
104 |
Sourced Spoiler Summary |
Krautboy |
11-02-11 |
99 |
RE: Sourced Spoiler Summary |
Belle Book |
11-02-11 |
101 |
RE: Sourced Spoiler Summary |
Brownroach |
11-02-11 |
102 |
RE: Sourced Spoiler Summary |
Outfrontgirl |
11-02-11 |
103 |
RE: Sourced Spoiler Summary |
Round Robin |
11-03-11 |
107 |
RE: Sourced Spoiler Summary |
Belle Book |
11-02-11 |
105 |
RE: Sourced Spoiler Summary |
PepeLePew13 |
11-03-11 |
108 |
More errors re tonight |
Brownroach |
11-03-11 |
106 |
RE: More errors re tonight |
dabo |
11-03-11 |
109 |
RE: More errors re tonight |
Outfrontgirl |
11-03-11 |
110 |
Ep 9 info posted |
Brownroach |
11-06-11 |
111 |
RE: Ep 9 info posted |
Belle Book |
11-06-11 |
112 |
RE: Ep 9 info posted |
Outfrontgirl |
11-06-11 |
113 |
RE: Ep 9 info posted |
Modesty |
11-06-11 |
114 |
RE: Ep 9 info posted |
Outfrontgirl |
11-06-11 |
115 |
RE: Ep 9 info posted |
Modesty |
11-07-11 |
119 |
RE: Ep 9 info posted |
PepeLePew13 |
11-06-11 |
116 |
EP10 Duels |
Krautboy |
11-06-11 |
117 |
RE: EP10 Duels |
dabo |
11-06-11 |
118 |
RE: EP10 Duels |
Krautboy |
11-07-11 |
122 |
RE: EP10 Duels |
Modesty |
11-07-11 |
120 |
RE: EP10 Duels |
Krautboy |
11-07-11 |
121 |
There, all done! |
Georjanna |
11-07-11 |
123 |
Ep. 10 |
Gothmog |
11-12-11 |
124 |
RE: Ep. 10 |
Belle Book |
11-12-11 |
125 |
RE: Ep. 10 |
Krautboy |
11-12-11 |
126 |
RE: Ep. 10 |
KObrien_fan |
11-12-11 |
127 |
RE: Ep. 10 |
Belle Book |
11-12-11 |
128 |
RE: Ep. 10 |
Brownroach |
11-17-11 |
129 |
Episode 12 |
Modesty |
11-18-11 |
130 |
RE: Episode 12 |
Belle Book |
11-18-11 |
131 |
Cochran out ... |
Outfrontgirl |
11-23-11 |
132 |
RE: Cochran out ... |
CTgirl |
11-23-11 |
133 |
RE: Cochran out ... |
Outfrontgirl |
11-23-11 |
135 |
RE: Cochran out ... |
Brownroach |
11-23-11 |
136 |
RE: Cochran out ... |
Georjanna |
11-23-11 |
138 |
RE: Cochran out ... |
Outfrontgirl |
11-23-11 |
139 |
RE: Cochran out ... |
tribephyl |
11-23-11 |
137 |
RE: Cochran out ... |
CTgirl |
11-23-11 |
140 |
RE: Cochran out ... |
Belle Book |
11-23-11 |
134 |
SurvivorsUnite Summary |
Krautboy |
11-27-11 |
141 |
RE: SurvivorsUnite Summary |
Modesty |
11-27-11 |
142 |
RE: SurvivorsUnite Summary |
Outfrontgirl |
11-28-11 |
146 |
RE: SurvivorsUnite Summary |
Outfrontgirl |
11-27-11 |
143 |
RE: SurvivorsUnite Summary |
Flowerpower |
11-27-11 |
144 |
RE: SurvivorsUnite Summary |
Outfrontgirl |
11-28-11 |
145 |
Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
dabo |
12-04-11 |
147 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
Outfrontgirl |
12-04-11 |
148 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
PepeLePew13 |
12-04-11 |
149 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
Belle Book |
12-04-11 |
151 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
dabo |
12-04-11 |
152 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
Flowerpower |
12-05-11 |
158 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
dabo |
12-06-11 |
160 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
Outfrontgirl |
12-06-11 |
162 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
dabo |
12-06-11 |
164 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
Belle Book |
12-04-11 |
150 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
Outfrontgirl |
12-04-11 |
153 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
Brownroach |
12-04-11 |
154 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
Outfrontgirl |
12-04-11 |
155 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
Flowerpower |
12-05-11 |
159 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
dabo |
12-06-11 |
161 |
RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day |
Outfrontgirl |
12-06-11 |
163 |
Final 3 Confirmed |
Krautboy |
12-05-11 |
156 |
RE: Final 3 Confirmed |
Outfrontgirl |
12-05-11 |
157 |
RE: Final 3 Confirmed |
Belle Book |
12-06-11 |
165 |
RE: Final 3 Confirmed |
parathor |
12-06-11 |
166 |
RE: Final 3 Confirmed |
Outfrontgirl |
12-06-11 |
167 |
RE: Final 3 Confirmed |
parathor |
12-07-11 |
168 |
Ep 14 spoilers |
Outfrontgirl |
12-11-11 |
169 |
RE: Ep 14 spoilers |
Outfrontgirl |
12-11-11 |
170 |
RE: Ep 14 spoilers |
Belle Book |
12-11-11 |
171 |
finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
Outfrontgirl |
12-15-11 |
172 |
RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
SquidProQuo |
12-15-11 |
173 |
RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
Outfrontgirl |
12-15-11 |
175 |
RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
dabo |
12-16-11 |
176 |
RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
Belle Book |
12-15-11 |
174 |
RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
Round Robin |
12-16-11 |
177 |
RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
Belle Book |
12-16-11 |
178 |
RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
Round Robin |
12-17-11 |
179 |
RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
Brownroach |
12-17-11 |
180 |
RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
dabo |
12-17-11 |
181 |
RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
Belle Book |
12-17-11 |
184 |
RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1 |
Belle Book |
12-17-11 |
183 |
Maxx on Finale (jury) pt II |
Outfrontgirl |
12-17-11 |
182 |
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Belle Book |
12-17-11 |
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tribephyl 8461 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-09-11, 01:08 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Ep 5" |
Well, at least we had a chance to narrow it down first. And we certainly guessed (predominantly) that Savaii would be visiting council this week.
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10-09-11, 01:10 AM (EST)
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8. "Duel Spoiler" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-09-11 AT 01:13 AM (EST)HIGHLIGHT FOR DUEL SPOILER Another Redemption Island and another opportunity for Matt, I mean Christine. Another opportunity for Christine to save herself. Oh but this challenge is just heartbreaking. Christine has to go up against Stacey, her best friend. Yes, they are best friends. They spent 6 whole days together and were not part of the Coach alliance so according to my “Reality TV Editing Chart” that makes them best friends. Well $1,000,000 is thicker than water and once again Matt ... I mean Christine, wins. Why do I keep calling her Matt? But true to her word, Stacey goes out swinging. She drops some knowledge regarding her former tribe, especially the fact that Coach is running the show. I wonder if this causes any paranoia on another tribe with a returning player? Maxx changed the cryptogram from what he used for his spoiler tagged section above, so this was tedious. I had gotten familiar with the other letters. There is some more of his post, just haven't slogged through it yet.
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10-09-11, 03:30 AM (EST)
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10. "The HII" |
He had a few ... um ... secret letters? But you can read what he's meaning. Highlight...BENJAMIN WAGE FINDS THE HIDDEN IMMUNITY IDOL. IF YOU ANALYZE THE VIDCAPS FROM NEXT WEEK?S PREVIEW, AND BY ?YOU ANALYZE? I MEAN ?NOT ME? YOU WILL SEE THAT BENJAMIN WADE IS LOOKING FOR THE IDOL BUT DOESN?T FIND IT. CLEVER, CLEVER EDITORS. I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THE SECOND HIDDEN IMMUNITY IDOL WAS FOUND BY THE SECOND RETURNING PLAYER, BENJAMIN WADE. BENJAMIN WADE, BENJAMIN WADE, BENJAMIN WADE.
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tribephyl 8461 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-09-11, 05:42 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: The HII" |
I don't know if I'd read that much into it. I think he just saying 2nd idol for 2nd returnee as opposed to the 2nd idol being found by the 'other' returnee. Ozzy has an idol and now Coach does too. Ozzy's first. Coach's second. Both returnees.
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tribephyl 8461 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-17-11, 02:12 AM (EST)
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15. "Ep 6" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-17-11 AT 02:21 AM (EST)From Max... Greetings my loyal minions, Maxx Fisher here Timing is everything. Little did I realize posting these spoilers later than normal would have such an impact. How do I put this delicately? People have been crawling up my ass since Saturday to get the next spoilers. And speaking of timing, I also did not expect to have these spoilers about 30 minutes after I took a sleeping pill. So if this kind of veers off into Crazy Town then you know why. Poor blindsided Elyse is sent to certain doom at Redemption Island. There is no way she can beat Christine right? What if I were to tell you that Elyse mops the floor with Christine and sends the Redemption Island Champ packing? Would you assume it was the sleeping pill talking? Well you’d be right. Christine, like Sherman, marches on and continues her winning record. How utterly surprising. Did anyone watch the previews for the next episode? It’s obvious that Savaii loses, so the back and forth spell of Immunity wins has ended. Oh wait, it hasn’t Savaii wins. Not only do they win immunity they also get a reward. Savaii gets a nice little outing to a fresh water pool/lagoon or whatever they want to call it. I’m sure they’ll be getting a feast with it but personally I’ve never understood the appeal of going swimming as a reward. How about a big meal and a nice nap. The question remains, who is going home on Upolu? I guess timing is bad for Mikayla too. If she had been on any other season she might have done better. Little did she realize she would be playing with God‘s own warrior Brandon and that her temptress ways would not work on him. He is a married man, that has made mistakes before but he will not be tempted by the seductive way she gathers firewood, builds a shelter or boils water. Brandon‘s wife is so lucky I leave you with this my heavy coconuts, I’m sorry that I was so late getting you spoilers on a show that hasn’t aired yet. I’m a monster. To make it up to you, I’m going to tease episode 7 for you. Am I a good guy again? I know how much you all loved the last puzzle I did, so this tease will be in puzzle form again. I hope it makes sense because right now I can’t even figure it out. I think that sleeping pill kicked in about 20 minutes ago. Later Minions 
I'm sure it's not Oscar Wilde Visits Redemption Kitchen Island.
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10-17-11, 02:35 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Ep 6" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-17-11 AT 02:39 AM (EST)Clues (scroll) * * * * * * * * * * * * * The flag is the flag of the Togolese Republic, more commonly known as Togo. The blue ball is the #2 billiard ball with the "2" removed. Oscar asks (some mispronounce it as "axe" and technically he should have pictured 2 axes for the "s" on the end of "ask") to go to Redemption Island.
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10-17-11, 02:40 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Ep 6" |
Good work Tribe...the Flag is the National Flag of Togo...(nickname for Oscar Wilde) gets the "axe", Togo ( to go to)....?......Shawshank Redemption, Kitchen Island. Just as we suspected!  Krautboy
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10-17-11, 02:47 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: Ep 6" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-17-11 AT 02:52 AM (EST)I'm reading it differently than you KB (as I explain in the post above). I think it is Ozzy asks to go to Redemption Island (i.e., he volunteers to go to RI) not that he "gets the axe." Of course, in NOLA, people often pronounce "ask" as "axe." We even have a song: "They All Axed for You" I went on down to the Audubon Zoo And they all AXED for you They all AXED for you Well, they even inquired about you I went on down to the Audubon Zoo And they all AXED for you The monkey's AXED The tiger's AXED And the elephant AXED for you, too eta: Here's a link to the Meters performing it -- it's a good song (but I may be biased, I grew up hearing it): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nCJIlOOg9Y
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10-17-11, 09:24 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Ep 6" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-17-11 AT 11:04 AM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 10-17-11 AT 09:25 AM (EST) Good clue! Actually, kiki and KB, I think it could be read either way... Ozzy asks to go to Redemption Island or Ozzy (is) axed to go to Redemption Island. The question is will he ask to go, or will he just be axed..... Why on Earth would he ASK to be voted out and go to RI? Where there is no guarantee that he will win....? Unless he's given up completely and we all know he's too competitive for that. He's also got to know that the merge is coming soon so why go to RI now to just be re-admitted to the game? I take the clue that he gets "the ax" and then goes to RI. But, I'll admit, who knows what goes on in that "Bob Marley" head of his... 
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10-17-11, 12:21 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Ep 6" |
I believe that it is Oscar asks to go to redemption island also.The reason he would do so is he is now a free agent. He knows he will have to beat 1 girl in most likely 1 challenge before the merge and then he will be readmitted to the game and still have his idol. Ozzy knows that it is taking a chance, but then again he has worn out his alliance welcome with his tribe, he would rather lay the burden on himself. So let's say it works, he wins one challenge and comes back into the game at the merge where both tribes are equal. Now he has a bargaining chip with which to go to Coach "I have the hii, you need to keep me in order to keep the target off yourself." They also may have made a helicopter pre-game alliance. In any case, all Upolu needs is to get one convert to start picking off Savaii. I'm not sure who came first hosting games, you or Tribe, but you are both nefarious! - CTGirl
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10-18-11, 08:43 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy" |
Awesome link to the Ozzy thoughts per RI, Kiki! Thanks so much for posting. WOW! I agree with everyone that the clue is most likely meaning that Ozzy indeed "asks" to go to RI. I want to know how it evolves. He notes that he's a free agent....I hate to tell him he's the last one of Savaii to think this way, they've been playing for themselves from the git-go! Regardless, Ozzy is still going to try 150% to win the challenge, and they will this week. But, next week, they lose. How do they arrive at the point where Ozzy volunteers? Do they rationally sit down and discuss all of the options, or does Ozzy come up with this all on his own as a way of ingratiating himself back to the numbers in his tribe. He knows he is going to need people with him, to get through post merge. He has to play the hand he's dealt, and he knows what a target he'll be post merge. But, clearly, after hearing the video, he's got a VERY VIABLE plan B, imo. Get to RI post merge and buddy up with EVERY jury member, then get back into the game, win the final challenges, and make the F3.....and, if anyone can do it, Ozzy could. Perhaps he'll volunteer to go to RI now, as he knows that either Christine or Mikayla will be there, and he'll figure he is likely to beat them and be returned to the game pronto. Then, he'll be able to collect valuable intel on the Upolu tribe from bonding with the bootee. Then he'll share with the Savaii upon his return to the game. I love it! From the first episodes and the editing, I have felt that Dawn and Ozzy will be connected through most of the game, but to date, it's not come to fruition, quite the opposite. Perhaps post merge, Dawn and Ozzy will develop a strong bond. Great insight from the video and article, Kiki!

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10-18-11, 10:05 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy" |
You read my mind Flower. This was my initial post in Sucks spoilers.If you have a look at the insider (episode 5) he talks a fair bit about taking six through the merge. He may just consider it's the only way. I don't imagine he's going to mope for 6 days. I said all along that he would be the last RI before the merge and I suspected it would be a choice he made - not because he wants to quit the game but because if they're down 5 to 6 at the merge they're screwed. If I had the guts to stick myself on redemption for the sake of my my tribe numbers I'd do it. The big issue with Savaii losing that last immunity is that they lose someone and go into the merge down in numbers. If someone who is loyal 'offers' to go to redemption rather than allow the redemptee (and likely returnee) to become ostracized, that can be a really effective way of maintaining tribe loyalty when they all come back together after the duel. I think it's a very good social play move. As to your point whether it's a group discussion or an offer made of his own volition - I guess we'll know more after episode 6. I don't expect for him to sulk all the way to RI. It lasted less than 24 after Cecilia was booted in CI and I'd predict about the same. He'll get over it - Jim was right about that.
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Modesty 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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10-18-11, 06:40 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy" |
>possible but Jiffy's comment that Ozzy's >social game gets worse belies >this happening imho > There were more to Jeff's comments than this. He also said Ozzy can go all the way because he's such a force but if he wants any chance at winning he needs to 'see the light'. I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just explaining my (and likely Flower's) logic in this line of thinking.
For my scenario I have tried to take in one of Ozzy's own opening comments in episode one: "I need redemption". This could mean he figures out he's acting like a selfish you-know-what and starts acting on behalf of the tribe as a whole. Redemption can mean many things. I've never once misinterpreted Maxx's clues so I'd be surprised if he doesn't mean that Ozzy puts his hand up to keep the tribe numbers. I guess we will see.
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10-18-11, 10:28 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy" |
Oh, I see what you mean now. I misunderstood before. Yes, I agree with you 100% re: Ozzy's edit & the key quote (as you say) is his words that became the title for the 1st episode "I need redemption." I hope, hope, hope you are right!
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10-18-11, 11:17 PM (EST)
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39. "RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy" |
Also Kiki, there was Brandon's tribal council quote that we were suppose to take note of, if the drop off in the music was anything to go by: "It's not how you start it's how you finish." This is one of those weird quotes that we will probably be retrospectively applying to the winner regardless. I can see it in many players - and Ozzy is one of them (albeit a fair way down the list). If (and it's a big IF) he is going to dramatically change his game we may not see signs of it until late episode 6, and then episode 7. If we haven't seen it by then, it's not coming
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10-19-11, 00:06 AM (EST)
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41. "RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy" |
Dawn ticks me off because when she had her break down day 1 it was Ozzy who talked her down -- and how does she pay him back for helping her save herself from being the first boot? Deceit & a lot of smack talk. She's an a$$, IMO. Only one person can win, this is Survivor after all. Ozzy hooked himself up with a worthless lazy ally who needed to be the next boot, she couldn't possibly have told Ozzy about it. God forbid that she should go along 100% with what Ozzy's agenda is, which by the way he too should be trying to win. I'm not sure who came first hosting games, you or Tribe, but you are both nefarious! - CTGirl
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10-19-11, 06:37 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-19-11 AT 06:46 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 10-19-11 AT 06:44 PM (EST) It wasn't so much helping Dawn as dealing with a situation he created. Ozzy chose to let the camp life be miserable at the get-go (so the editing told us), and as a result one of his tribe began breaking down. He realized that he needed to step up and reinstate calm or it could be catching. At the time he did not realize that it would be Semhar or Dawn, or he may indeed have let Dawn destruct. I think Ozzy saw the first boot as Cochran. Returnees cannot expect to be wanted by the newbies. If a returnee wants to stay in the game, he or she needs to play twice the social game. The Savai'i other than Elyse were merely undecided on whether it was better to use Ozzy or lose him. The older more mature women especially seem to have a track record on rejecting the returnees. Francesca, Kristina, Sarita, Julie -- now Christine, Stacey, and Dawn. But even Whitney was not happy about Ozzy having power. Ozzy must have failed in his social game as Keith is the closest thing he has to an ally at the moment. Dawn and Cochran are slightly more radical than the members of the 3 + 2 -- being willing to toss him before they have finished the pre-merge challenges rather than the first post-merge vote where they can afford to kick him.
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10-19-11, 11:15 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: Article & Clip re: Ozzy" |
Ozzy created the situation? How, because Dawn was too chickensh!t to speak up and say we really should build a shelter? That's even assuming we buy that her breakdown was due to no shelter -- which I don't. She didn't go a week without a shelter -- she spent 1 rain-free night without a shelter -- even "no camping no way" me can go one night without a shelter. Dawn's breakdown was because she was out of her element & she wasn't in control.And we can make all the excuses we want for Dawn and try to put all the blame on Ozzy, but the theme this year is "loyalty" and Dawn doesn't have any. Turning your back on somebody who has helped you for whatever reason isn't noble. I understand this is Survivor & they are all out for themselves ultimately, but Dawn's vehemence against Ozzy is a lot weirder than just he's got a "bad social game" (and, I say again, was his social game bad when he was talking her down from the ledge? Is his social game bad when he's bringing her fish to eat?). There is something strange about Dawn & it goes beyond just her being out for herself & wanting to knock her competition out of her way. For one thing, she's extremely judgmental of those who don't follow her life philosophy -- the dig about Bob Marley, for one example. For another, look at how she reacted to the younger girls wearing bikinis, for the love of cheese! She acted like they were harlots and were "showing off" when all I saw was girls happy to have swimsuits instead of the same grubby clothes they'd been wearing for 10 days. She's almost as creepy as Brandon, IMO. But, I do give her this: the edit is going out of its way to try to make her appear as the nice, "normal" one, and that bodes well for her fate in the game.
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10-17-11, 11:24 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Ep 6" |
Love it. How can you not feel good after listening to this? This made my day 
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10-17-11, 01:30 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Ep 6" |
Billy Joel is from the Bronx/NYC I believe. New Orleanians are said to have a somewhat Bronx-ish accent.
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10-19-11, 07:57 PM (EST)
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48. "RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot Spoilers ... " |
I have just a little free time before the show, so I'll be back afterward (with some supporting conjecture)But I just wanted to note that Maxx characterized ' Ozzy asks to go to Redemption Island' as a"tease" for Episode 7. So we might want to consider that he didn't ask to be voted out of the tribe at all. Perhaps he asked instead to attend the Episode 7 duel as a lone wolf with an agenda. G
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10-26-11, 09:25 PM (EST)
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56. "Out of turn MaxxFisher partial spoiler Episode 8" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-26-11 AT 09:27 PM (EST)Just FYI at 11:34 a.m. today Maxx posted this on Sucks: I'll throw this spoiler out for episode 8 because: 1. I'm sure they'll spoil it in the previews 2. Everyone already assumes it anyway 3. It's not much of a spoiler They merge. His regular post should be up Friday.
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10-27-11, 03:07 PM (EST)
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58. "Just thinking...." |
I am beginning to think there was more to that bit about Rick in Max's last spoiler than meets the eye. It raised a flag when I read it that Rick was headed for a blindside, now it seems more feasible....food for thought.
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10-27-11, 03:35 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Just thinking...." |
Coach's F3 does not include Brandon or Rick, that was revealed in a secret scene confessional.
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10-27-11, 03:38 PM (EST)
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61. "RE: Just thinking...." |
You mean Albert and Sophie along with Coach? Albert and Sophie didn't vote along with Coach on the Mikayla boot, so I dunno how secure that secret F3 actually is.
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10-27-11, 03:57 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: Just thinking...." |
Let's not have a conversation about where Maxx's information comes from but say we did and let's also say we observed that some of his cagier stuff doesn't have much lasting value.
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10-27-11, 06:58 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: Just thinking...." |
I wasn't referring to anything to do with Maxx whatsoever - I was responding to the info that apparently came from a secret confessional alluded to above. The only secret scenes I'm aware of are the ones transcribed by James Barber and the ones at the end of EW's Jiffy interviews (neither of which I've seen so far).
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dabo 22275 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-27-11, 03:55 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: Just thinking...." |
Rick was the winner of the Jimmy T casting choice this season, let's just be thankful he's not another Jimmy T.
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10-27-11, 07:29 PM (EST)
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68. "RE: Just thinking...." |
Yeah, but I *like* Ozzy, so that doesn't count.
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10-28-11, 03:15 PM (EST)
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70. "Spoiling the Spoilers" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-28-11 AT 03:30 PM (EST)(Edited to add comments from EP8) There's been quite a bit of discussion about distinguishing spoiler from opinion when reading Maxx's comments..and to Maxx's credit, it appears he will leave that for us to decide. Here's a sumary of some of the more Cryptic comments Maxx has made so far. The point I'm trying to make is that they indicate, as Maxx has already told us, he has some knowledge of the long term outcome, above and beyond his weekly spoilers. EP1: Is there any, any possible chance Coach or Ozzy will make it to the Jury? If only someone already knew the answer. Oh wait, someone does. This comment was an early indication that Maxx probably had some information about the long term outcome of the game, beyond the episode to episode details… EP3: Someone to keep an eye on: Coach. When I found out he was going to be on this season I expected him to be the first or second person voted out. But he seems to be using his wily ways to stick around. But why wouldn’t you want to keep him around. He plays with honor & integrity, right? I wonder what Edna would say about that. Surely I’m not implying anything. I mean she was the first person to befriend Coach when everyone else dismissed him, so their bond must be as strong as granite. Maybe strong as chalk? Perhaps paper? The Dragon Slayer is firmly in the camp of “Bros before hos”. He is going to do her dirty and you heard it here first.
Here is another example of a Maxx comment that suggests knowledge about future events…in this case he is saying Coach will betray Edna’s loyalty and vote her out before his “Bros”. When this happens we can only speculate I leave you with, my dirty, dirty liars, this season is going to be a wild ride. There are some…things that are going to happen this season that are going to either blow your mind, or make you punch a baby. I’m fine with either. But it’s going to be a wild ride. Check back each week for the skinny, I promise, no white lies. Maxx tells us something big future event is coming…was he referring to this week? EP4: The tribe make-ups stay the same until the merge. And a tip to the wise, pay attention to who's getting all the airtime - bet on them to go deep into the game. Oooh, so cryptic.
Another example of Maxx’s big picture knowledge…who’s getting all the airtime? Brandon, Ozzy and Coach probably “go deep into the game.” EP5: Another Redemption Island and another opportunity for Matt…I mean Christine. Another opportunity for Christine to save herself. Oh but this challenge is just heartbreaking. Christine has to go up against Stacey, her best friend. Yes, they are best friends. They spent 6 whole days together and were not part of the Coach alliance so according to my “Reality TV Editing Chart” that makes them best friends. Well $1,000,000 is thicker than water and once again Matt…I mean Christine wins. Why do I keep calling her Matt? But true to her word, Stacey goes out swinging. She drops some knowledge regarding her former tribe, especially the fact that Coach is running the show. I wonder if this causes any paranoia on another tribe with a returning player?
Maxx suggesting, back in EP5, that Christine will continue winning on Redemption Island, which we have seen is the case. Another example of Maxx knowing more than he lets on? EP7: I can talk about the episodes after they happen, but I can’t say what I would like to see happen to the survivors. I can’t say “God I hate that Rick guy and it will be so sweet when he gets what’s coming to him”. Dose that mean I let slip that he was going to get blindsided or that he get’s mauled by a cougar and has to be evacuated? I know, poor me.
I leave you with this my reluctant volunteers, does this seem like an overly complicated plan to anyone else? It seems like a lot could go wrong, but I’m not playing and I’m watching from the outside so it’s easy for me to judge. One more thing to throw out there, one of the Savaii has a job. They have to pretend to flip to get information out of Upolu. I leave the identity for you to speculate. And as for hating Rick, how could I? He’s not even on the show. These are the comments in question this week. When questioned about them, Maxx has said they were innocent remarks. I’m just saying that Maxx has demonstrated he has information about future events not yet aired on the show. I’m suggesting that some of that information could easily slip out in his writing, even though it may be unintentional. EP8 I guess when you can‘t vote out Ozzy you vote out the next best competitor on the other side. So now Savaii has no Hidden Immunity idol and it is now 4 vs. 6 plus a Cochran. You don‘t have to be a mathemagician to see how that is going to work out for Ozzy, Dawn, Whitney & Jim Appears Maxx is suggesting the demise of Savaii...
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kiki_k 1444 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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10-29-11, 00:23 AM (EST)
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74. "RE: Spoiling the Spoilers" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-29-11 AT 00:28 AM (EST)IMO, you are overstating the case by saying we assumed "everything works out for Savaii." I believe what we were saying (or at least what I said) was Ozzy's move works out in that he does defeat Christine in the duel & John gives him back the HII. Maxx has confirmed all that happens. The only ones doubting Ozzy's plan were saying Christine would win and/or John would not give back Ozzy's HII. Ozzy's plan DID work for Savaii. However, NO ONE thought John would be stupid enough to go from a guaranteed F3 spot with Savaii just to buy himself 3 more days because he is emotionally & physically incapable of even playing his one role of "double agent" properly &, hence, incapable of risking a tie vote. He'd rather throw all 5 Savaii votes away & scr@w the 5 tribe members who saved him. Student of the game? My foot. This betrayal after his entire tribe decided to go ahead with Ozzy's crazy plan to save his @ss (because he was going to exit the jury at the hands of a middle age woman!) AND that plan actually PANS OUT? No, not even I expected that from this little rat. Although honestly, given the fact that he has shown himself to be a totally inept, petty, sexist tool, we should have seen that coming. I've been saying from the start that this kid isn't playing to win. Heck, he said it himself Day 1 when he demanded to be called Cochran -- he wants to be "known." That's it - worse DAW in Survivor history. All we've heard from his what he can't do -- can't go in the water, can't go in the sun, can't dive off a cliff, can't go to RI & win against a middle aged woman, can't take even the slightest risk whatsoever. Now we know he can't be loyal & he can't win Survivor. But yeah, we'll remember him -- biggest TRAITOR in Survivor history. Sadly, he'll be happy with that.
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10-29-11, 07:11 AM (EST)
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75. "RE: Spoiling the Spoilers" |
GREAT post, Krautboy! Thanks for spelling it out for us! You are amazing as always! So, here is what seems to be ahead for us...Coach will betray and cut the women before the men on his tribe. Coach, Brandon, Albert and Rick will outlast Sophie and Edna. The question is, will Cochran outlast the women? Rick will be blindsided... Who is getting the airtime...they go deep into the game....I'd say: Ozzy, Cochran, Coach, and Brandon....could they be our final 4? Ozzy, Dawn, Whitney, and Jim will be pagonged. Will it be in that order? Thanks so much, Krautboy! You were right on with the spec that alot could go wrong! The only thing that gives me hope are Jiffy's comments when he was asked if he liked Ozzy's move....he answered, "I liked it, it was a move made by someone who is playing to win." We all know that Jiffy tells us everything! Fingers crossed!

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10-29-11, 12:38 PM (EST)
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76. "RE: Spoiling the Spoilers" |
Ozzy's move might have been made by someone who is playing to win and thus would give Ozzy fans hope, but let's face it -- he has only two shots at winning the game:1. He's got to find the next Hidden Immunity Idol and I sure hope that Edna finds it before he does! 2. He's got to win the remaining Immunity Challenges if he doesn't find it! Sure he won a lot of Immunity Challenges in Cook Islands but he was rarely in danger once the Aitu-4 took charge and many of the challenges were suited for him. I doubt the same thing will happen here. Besides, you know that Jeff likes Ozzy! 
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10-29-11, 06:41 PM (EST)
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79. "RE: Spoiling the Spoilers" |
(Though I seem to think maybe Jeff said they were changing that? Anyone remember? )Indeed he did, Brownroach. No more multiple duels unless there is a double boot of course, but he did say it will be down to the winner each time. Regarding Ozzy having to win each and every immunity or duel...let's face it. That was always his real shot at winning. He has to win, win, win.....If he goes to RI, he has to win there as well, just to make it to the F5, and from there, I'd bet that he still has to win every single time. The moment he doesn't win, he's toast....fwiw. 
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10-29-11, 05:46 PM (EST)
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77. "RE: Spoiling the Spoilers" |
>>Coach will betray and cut the >women before the men on >his tribe. Coach, Brandon, Albert >and Rick will outlast Sophie >and Edna. Yes , that's how I see it too. The question is, >will Cochran outlast the women? I'm not so sure about this...The Upolu tribe prayed together and appear to be well on their way to the end game. I thing Coach and Brandon will cut Cochran loose in the name of honor and integrity and loyalty to Upolu...that appears to be the msin theme. >Rick will be blindsided... I think Maxx's comment about Rick was not intended to be a spoiler (as he explained) but a general comment about how invisible Rick has been. Just an indirect comment saying that Rick will probably do better than we might espect from what we'vr seen so far. I'm still thinkiing that Rick and Albert are the dogs that didn't bark...invisible pre-merge, with there stories building from now until the finale. > >Who is getting the airtime...they go >deep into the game....I'd say: >Ozzy, Cochran, Coach, and Brandon....could >they be our final 4? Agreed that they go far, but I don't think the Upolu would let them both hang around until the end. >Ozzy, Dawn, Whitney, and Jim will >be pagonged. Will it be >in that order?
Upolu will go for Keith first, so there strategy will probably be to get rid of likely challenge threats first...Keith Ozzy and Jim...then the weaker players. Upolu would probaly keep Cochran around as long as they can, because they know a Savaii dominated Jury that was betrayed by Cochran, would never vote for him to get the million. >Thanks so much, Krautboy! You >were right on with the >spec that alot could go >wrong! The only thing that >gives me hope are Jiffy's >comments when he was asked >if he liked Ozzy's move....he >answered, "I liked it, it >was a move made by >someone who is playing to >win." We all know >that Jiffy tells us everything! > Fingers crossed!
Agreed, Jiffy is hoping Ozzy wins Fan Favorite.
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81. "RE: Spoiling the Spoilers" |
The question is, >will Cochran outlast the women?I'm not so sure about this...The Upolu tribe prayed together and appear to be well on their way to the end game. I thing Coach and Brandon will cut Cochran loose in the name of honor and integrity and loyalty to Upolu...that appears to be the msin theme. But, what if they make a pact. What if they shake his hand and give him their word? Brandon is not likely to turn on that. And, with Brandon there to keep Coach in line, he may be forced to honor his word as well.....I will be very eager to see if there is a promise that is offered to Cochroach.... Regarding Ozzy and fan favorite....he had me last week....

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83. "RE: Spoiling the Spoilers" |
LilHantz is not likely to be happy with a scenario that puts Cochran ahead of anyone in the Upolu 6. I don't think he would be party to such a pact. Coach might -- out of hearing range of everyone else.
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10-31-11, 09:49 AM (EST)
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85. "RE: Spoiling the Spoilers" |
TaliHantz might not like it, but there ain't much he can do about it. If he doesn't like it he can either quit or have Coach tell him not to let the door hit him in the a$$ on the way out. I think Coach is gonna do what he damn well pleases, and I don't think it'll take much provocation after the merge for Coach to tell his allies to vote TaliHantz out, especially if the old Upolus are up in numbers by then.
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10-31-11, 12:55 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: Spoiling the Spoilers" |
>Coach has gotten his way 100% >this season. No one has >successfully challenged him. I don't >see that changing now... ...Coach is clearly a villain, and >his "fall" has been telegraphed >early and often, but objectively >he's sitting pretty. Agreed Parathor, I don't see anything stopping him from getting to the end, but once he gets there the jury will make him pay the price and probably give the million to one of the two he brings with him. It will be ironic when Coach suffers the same fate as Russell, both villains who knew how to get to the end, but unable to manage the jury...
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10-31-11, 09:07 PM (EST)
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91. "RE: Spoiling the Spoilers" |
I think we should keep this possibility in mind in trying to figure out who might still be there at the F4 with the potential for Ozzy to make it back into the game as the fifth person if he goes to RI ... they might consider the need for a strong athletic type to remain in the game to take on Ozzy and increase the chances of getting him out of the game. An Albert or a Keith, perhaps. If Coach is still there in the game, think he'll push to have as many athletic types around to make sure Ozzy gets knocked out rather than to keep non-athletic types around (Sophie, Edna, Dawn, Cochran, etc.)?
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11-01-11, 04:42 PM (EST)
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93. "RE: Spoiling the Spoilers" |
Just rewatched the ending and it was very obvious that Ozzy is the heroic figure and Cochran the evil "slithering" snake like villain of this almost Shakespearian tale. Then again after another viewing Cochran could be some sort of amoral Hobbit. If he returns, Ozzy would be viewed as invinceable almost mythic by all the other players and he would have the idol. What would Cochran do then? After merge Ozzie could join two other strong single immunity types to form an alliance against the others? This could get him to the F4 or F3. Just trying to think of a way he could win Survivor and make jeff the happiest man alive.........(still it does feel like this will be his demise this week, Christine has the best plan, Luck!)
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11-01-11, 08:57 PM (EST)
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94. "RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot Spoilers ... " |
From what I see at Sucks today ...Survivor's Unite has given us Coach, Albert, Sophie as the F3. He has hinted strongly that Coach doesn't win. Others who appear to know things have come forward that Brandon melts down and wants to quit, can barely wait to be voted out, probably at F5. Something about CBS considering turning it into fake med-evac so he wouldn't be a quitter, but didn't. Someone has said that Cochran is not the last Savai'i standing. ( I would vote for Dawn, the Holly of this season.) Someone said that Cochran will flipflop at least once more and maybe beyond that -- I guess until someone plants their foot on the squirmy little pasty bug. Someone else said that Coach came home happy and thoroughly enjoyed being in the F3 and the final TC. (Which would mean he didn't get trashed?) There is a strong hint that Sophie wins. I can believe this F3, as we were shown it when Coach found the idol. They all worked together and then Sophie had a confessional about how great this was. This F3 is the core alliance. Edna is #6, and perhaps Coach does no more in the way of dirty than to let her go in her allotted position, rather than teaming up with her to change things up. It's hard to see why Sophie would win, as her game play so far doesn't have people buzzing, and there are only Dawn, Whitney, and Edna on the jury. Well, maybe that is it ... the F3 is two men and one woman, and if she gets the three women to vote for her, she only needs one more. So Coach and Albert only need to royally alienate one guy ... Cochran ... or maybe Jim appreciates Sophie's smart play. Or Brandon is really mad at the two guys ... or the vote is not 4-3 and the third person gets a couple votes, in which case Sophie only needs three votes. I think the most likely to return from RI are either Ozzy or Dawn. If it's Ozzy, we'll have another season with the returnee voted right back out or at best, the next time after.
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11-02-11, 05:09 PM (EST)
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100. "RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot Spoilers ... " |
Well heck, the week by week spoilers were one thing, we could still come here and try to spoil the episode before it was revealed. Now that the season has been spoiled, I'm done here for the rest of the season. It was fun while it lasted.After reading this news I went back and re-watched episode 1, and yes, Sophie was highlighted at key moments, including she was the first person that the camera focused on when Jeff said "one survivor". I'd expect her to get more face time after the merge. I don't see how her story ties to "I need redemption" or overcoming a rough start, but whatever. What little I've seen of her I have been impressed with and will be happy with a Sophie win. I am also looking forward to seeing Cochran flip back and forth between the two tribes until he gets caught. It will be fun to see him in a duel at RI against Ozzy and to see Ozzy say goodbye. I'm not sure who came first hosting games, you or Tribe, but you are both nefarious! - CTGirl
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Outfrontgirl 6271 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-02-11, 07:04 PM (EST)
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104. "RE: To-Date-Accurate Sourced Boot Spoilers ... " |
btw, I'm not sure if everyone here knows how Sucks spoilers forum works now. Sucks used to be the place where any wild made up spoiler had a home. No longer.Anti is reigning with iron first. Any spoiler there has to privately prove his credentials for having real info with Anti. If not, the topic gets locked. If a topic does not get locked, that means Anti finds it has sufficient credibility. Sophie had an excellent start in Ep 1, which is what matters to me. With some winners, especially those that don't overtly step up in the game, they intro them in Ep 1 and then let them be minor characters until they begin to play in earnest. Even though Fabio was visible as the court ;jester, his gameplay got very little focus until he realized he was in danger. Bob in Gabon reappeared to the viewers when he was in danger. So far, Sophie has never been in any kind of vulnerable position. None. EPM and Jeff prefer to show males as the ones who are running the show. They are very biased that way. In Guatemala, they focused on Gary Hogeboom and not Danni. Danni got face time around the point where it was her turn to get booted and she played her way out of it. Even then they edited out some of her strategic play. In sum: in a season where the guys running the show are NOT getting a winner's edit, there is probably a female player in the wings who is there and playing a good game, but not getting highlighted, If Albert were going to win, he would have been highlighted in Ep 1, I have no doubt of that.
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11-02-11, 05:05 PM (EST)
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99. "Sourced Spoiler Summary " |
LAST EDITED ON 11-04-11 AT 04:04 PM (EST)The following is an extrapolation of the sourced spoilers currently being discussed and an attempt at organizing them... After reading over at SSucks it’s apparent there are several posters with reliable sourced information. Maxx Fisher, Survivorsunite, iVrdo210 and EC101. After reading their posts and pulling the clues together with a little logic and speculation, here’s what the rest of the season might look like plugged into TDT’s calendar. From Maxx we know Upolu comes out on top in numbers after the merge TC and vote out Keith, then proceed to Pagong from there. EP8: Ozzy wins the duel and returns to the game when the tribes Merge, Keith sent to Redemption Island EC101 seems adamant about two triple duels, which require two double boots. He also tell us that Ozzy, Whitney and Keith do NOT compete in the same triple-duel. Since Upolu chose to vote off Keith first, it makes sense that they would continue to vote off the challenge threats next. EP9: Double TC, Ozzy and Jim to Redemption Island EP10: Triple Duel, Ozzy wins, Jim and Keith first two jurors Then EP10 would have a second double TC with two more players (probably Savaii) getting voted out. EP10: Double TC, Whitney and Dawn sent to Redemption Island. The EP11 duel will be the second 3-way duel with the winner sending two more to the jury. Ozzy should be able to defeat Whitney and Dawn. EP11: Triple Duel, Ozzy wins, Whitney and Dawn join the jury, (now four bitter Savaii). SU tells us that lbert Sophie and Rick “go far” with Coach, which he defines as F6 or better, and since we know the F3 and that Brandon is still around at the Family visit, Cochran will probably be the last Savaii to be Pagonged. EP11: TC, Cochrane sent to Redemption Island to face a betrayed Savaii tribemate... Maxx hinted that Coach betrays Edna when he chooses “Bros before Hos”, which given that we know the F3, means Coach chooses Brandon and Rick over Edna. EP12, Ep13 and EP14 would go back to one-on-one duels. EP12: Duel, Ozzy crushes Cochrane and sends him to the jury, now 5 Savaii and zero Upolu. Family visit and TC where the first Upolu goes to Redemption. It's not likely that Edna would win Individual Immunity, so she would probably be the first Upolu to go, based on Maxx’s suggestion of Coach's betrayal of her. Edna goes to Redemption Island. By process of elimination Rick and Brandon are the last Upolu before the F5. SU tell us "We do know now that Coach is in the finals. That Whitney and Keith are dating. That Brandon makes the family visit and goes F6 or 5 after basically quitting (although chances are we won't see it happen that way). Brandon is not in the F3. No one from Savii make F3." (The "F6 or 5" spoiler from SU is probably vague because Brandon gets voted out at F5, but finishes F6, after Ozzy beats him to return to the game) EP13: Duel, Ozzy defeats Edna, and Brandon has his F5 meltdown and he is voted out at TC. SU and iVrdo210 both confirmed that Brandon goes out just before the finale, after something causes Brandon to have a meltdown and want to quit. The producers consider staging a Medivac, but Brandon sticks it out to TC where he is voted out. Danni at SSkills had spoiled this early on as well. They have also confirmed the F3with each other. SU tells us that Ozzy goes deep into the game. With the Savaii being Pagonged and Ozzy the automatic target as soon as he loses immunity, the most likely way for that to happen is if he returns from Redemption at F5 EP14: Final Duel: Ozzy defeats Brandon and returns to the game, F5: As SU told us, "Rick, Albert and Sophie go deep into the game with Coach, but as Maxx hinted, "Rick gets blind-sided" at TC and is voted out at the F5 TC. Ozzy's Immunity and Challenge run apparently comes to an end at F4 and is voted out at F4 TC, leaving Coach, Albert and Sophie as the F3. iVrdo210 has told us that Brandon does not vote for Coach and has hinted that Sophie will soon start to get a winner’s edit. Final TC: Sophie wins  Krautboy
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Brownroach 13867 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-02-11, 05:46 PM (EST)
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102. "RE: Sourced Spoiler Summary " |
I wonder if Coach would get any votes. It could be very close between Sophie and Albert (5-4), or close between the three of them (4-3-2). I still can't believe there's yet to be a tie, when there were plenty of occasions where it was possible.
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11-02-11, 06:49 PM (EST)
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103. "RE: Sourced Spoiler Summary " |
The jurors talk out the numbers at Ponderosa, so they know how to avoid a tie. I wish they wouldn't let them do that. It's like Big Brother now.
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11-03-11, 10:43 AM (EST)
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109. "RE: More errors re tonight" |
Agree. Ignore the MaxxFactors! It was one thing when they were obscure references to Edna or Rick, but this bozo couldn't deliver solid vote information this time and resorted to embellishment rather than admit up front he just didn't know.
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11-06-11, 10:01 PM (EST)
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116. "RE: Ep 9 info posted" |
That makes me believe that Cochran and Dawn might be successful in exposing a crack in the Upolu tribe to boot one of their own before completing the Pagonging. Either that or a RI returnee turns the game upside down.
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Krautboy 2747 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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11-06-11, 10:44 PM (EST)
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117. "EP10 Duels" |
iVrdo210 (one of this seasons spoilers with sourced information) has confirmed that the EP10 Duels will be two back-to-back duels...with the losers of the duels going to the jury.So, Jeff did tell us the truth when he said no multi-person duels. Since we know Ozzy is out this week and there are spoilers (Survivorsunite) that he "goes deep into the game", we can conclude that Ozzy will be victorious.  Krautboy
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Krautboy 2747 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson"
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11-07-11, 00:42 AM (EST)
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122. "RE: EP10 Duels" |
With the family visit probably at EP12 and the schedule busy from there on to the end, it's likely that it will happen sooner rather than later...with a double boot this week and double duels in EP10, there's a good chance we have another double boot it EP10, with another pair of duels to start EP11.See speculation and supporting spoilers here: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/7726.shtml#99  Krautboy
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Outfrontgirl 6271 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-23-11, 04:39 AM (EST)
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132. "Cochran out ..." |
http://tvfunspot.com/forums/showpost.php?p=281361&postcount=15Not sorry, and how fun will the Ep 12 duel be ... but man, the Upolu can't even pull off an Edna betrayal to spice up the Pagonging. This is, so far, an Onion alliance that is going as planned, one outer layer after another, or one bottom rung after another if you prefer. It looks like Edna after Cochran ... then the question is, Rick or Brandon as the first Stargazer to go? I'm thinking Rick. It sounds from various spoiler hints like Brandon doesn't go to RI. Like he is there at F5 and then implodes. Which would give Ozzy a ticket to F4 but the implosion may come after Ozzy wins IC), assuming that he can beat Cochran, Edna, Rick. Do ya think? Coach has to play his idol at F5, probably not needed. Then it's like Samoa with Brett at the last challenge, who will knock out Ozzy? (If anyone.) Just spec ... I know nothing except that Brandon is supposedly one of the two F5s.
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11-23-11, 07:11 PM (EST)
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136. "RE: Cochran out ..." |
CTgirl, are you thinking of Maxx saying it would be a "wild ride"? I don't think he said "to the end" although it did sort of imply that. But I'm not really envisioning much of interest happening from this point on.
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11-23-11, 09:07 PM (EST)
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138. "RE: Cochran out ..." |
In Maxx's Episode Nine thread at SSucks, he wrote:This ... Battlekid wrote: Maxx, without giving specifics of course, Is the "wild" part of this season pretty much over, or are there still a few surprises around the corner? And that doesn't necessarily have to mean boots. Maxx: Not over yet And this ...
Maxx: Regarding "wild season". Having the spoilers, I have no investment in any of the players this year. When I talk about the season being wild and the wildness not being over, I am talking about good TV. I am not referring to specific players or tribes. I just mean that there is going to be good, wild television. At least from the info I have I think it will be. I'm not an editor or a producer, so what I think is going to be great, could get turned into a mild nothing.
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11-27-11, 07:32 PM (EST)
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141. "SurvivorsUnite Summary" |
Besides Maxx, SurvivorsUnite has been the other major "sourced spoiler" this season. To review let's first look at the two most important posts made by SurvivorsUnite over at SSucks:
Happy Halloween Weekend! I'm bored and have not been around these parts in a while, so much to read (not sure how much is known). How are all my fellow Sucksters?Hmm...True or False? 1) Ozzy goes deep into the game? 2) Brandon goes at F6? 3) Coach does make Finals? 4) Albert, Sophie, Rick all go far with Coach? 5) Ozzy, just like Matt returns to RI a 2nd time? I won't be around the the whole season but will pop in every now and again. My understanding is no one has a good grip on fact currently, so here are a few things for those interested and want to have a clue in to the future. We do know now that Coach is in the finals. That Whitney and Keith are dating. That Brandon makes the family visit and goes F6 or 5 after basically quitting (although chances are we won't see it happen that way). Brandon is not in the F3. No one from Savii make F3. When SU first posted his True or False question, it was unclear if they were true or false. Later, however, he posted his follow-up thread from which we could infer that the answer was "True". While this interpretation can and will be argued, it is consistent with all the other spoilers from Maxx, Danni and others... First he tells us "Ozzy, just like Matt returns to RI a second time." At first glance this seems to contradict his other statement..."Ozzy, goes deep into the game". However, we can conclude that in order for both to be true, Ozzy must return to the game at F5 as the returnee from RI. He also tells us that Coach is in the F3, that the final three are all Upolu and that Brandon and Edna are not there with him because he states "Albert, Sophie, Rick all go far with Coach". Since he basically told us Ozzy returns at F5, and that Brandon and Edna are not part of the F5, we can conclude that Rick, Sophie, Albert and Rick are somewhere in the F5. SU also tells us that Brandon goes at F6, but later says he "makes the family visit and goes F6 or 5." Why the change in his spoiler to include the F5? We can conclude that this spoiler is probably ambiguous...if Brandon goes out at F5, but then Ozzy returns to the game, he in turn bumps Brandon to a sixth place (F6) finish...Brandon goes to Redemption Island at F5, but finishes the game at F6, because he's not the one to return. The twist in SU's spoiler was that the answer to all 5 of his early questions was "True", many of which he confirmed later when he started his thread at SSuck...all the other spoilers to date have confirmed that assumption.
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Modesty 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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11-27-11, 07:53 PM (EST)
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142. "RE: SurvivorsUnite Summary" |
"The twist in SU's spoiler was that the answer to all 5 of his early questions was "True", many of which he confirmed later when he started his thread at SSuck...all the other spoilers to date have confirmed that assumption. "I think you've misinterpreted that part of the spoiler. He in fact confirmed that items 1 and 4 were false. The remaining three items were true. I choose not to believe SU's spoilers this time around. There's some reasons why: 1. He said Ozzy is out before F6 - this is looking less and less likely. 2. He has only ever spoiled one season and that was HvV because he is friends with Sandra. His spoilers for last season were incorrect (as were Missyae's who only ever had Russell as a source.) 3. The person who guessed that 1 and 4 were false and was told he was correct by SU was iVrDo. This guy has subsequently been banned at Sucks. I'm not saying that you shouldn't believe him but you should use a good amount of skepticism when considering his spoilers.
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11-28-11, 01:48 AM (EST)
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146. "RE: SurvivorsUnite Summary" |
Modesty, Somehow I missed your post when I replied. I think I started my reply when Krautboy's was the only new post, and then let it sit for a while. Thanks to FloPo drawing attention to it, I now see it.Question: >>> 1. He said Ozzy is out before F6 - this is looking less and less likely. Is this from some other posts? I don't see it in Krautboy's list. I agree it is not likely at all. I am in agreement with you about SU's track record. Although I imagine it is not a bad thing to be friends with Sandra in terms of collecting Survivor gossip. (btw, it is not true that Russell was missyae's only source. Definitely not, but that is irrelevant to this season, as he isn't really posting spoilers.) SEG has in the past protected certain information vigilantly while being relaxed about some other info. SEG wanted to maintain the suspense that Rob could be voted out and that an RI returnee could win, because without that possibility there was little reason to watch the end. This season, the fate of the RI returnee is again the big wild card. Coach getting voted out looks unlikely, but a Coach WIN would be a secret worth keeping, as would an Ozzy win. I would not be surprised if the old pipeline had some disinformation fed to it.
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11-27-11, 08:05 PM (EST)
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143. "RE: SurvivorsUnite Summary" |
Excellent pulling together of this early SU spoiler -- one I had forgotten as I didn't know the T/F was all True.If Brandon goes out in 6th place (1st F5 boot), that will be in accordance with the line-up we see now. Sophie tells Albert that booting Edna and Brandon will not upset anyone, as it's the pre-ordained order, but they need to go after Cochran. Sophie is playing "peel the onion alliance" as it peels by established pecking order, rather than reaching in and pulling a layer prematurely. She sees this as a way to avoid a bitter jury I think. Coach too. So we are not seeing any surprises down the road with the Upolu alliance. The only wild card is Ozzy. Rick will not duel Ozzy, because Brandon is the last duel (by the SU spoiler). The last duel will most likely be endurance, and Ozzy knows how to do these, whereas Brandon is impatient and twitchy. That leaves Ozzy competing in what is most likely a fairly physical F5 challenge against Coach, Sophie, Albert, Rick. Last season it was the Bone to Pick that Ashley won. The F6 and F4 challenges were highly physical and Rob won both of them. Sophie likely has a decent chance to beat Ozzy at something similar to Bone To Pick, but remember that Ozzy is going to have a huge nutritional edge over the Upolu when he comes back. Because Ozzy does think in terms of strategic providing, he might well go off and feed himself without sharing when he returns. So Ozzy will have the edge with energy, brain chemistry, stamina -- in addition to his natural abilities. According to SU, Ozzy does not make the F3 -- but the spoiler leaves it open that he could make F4. Last season, SU was taken in by the false planted spoiler that Boston Rob would go out at F5 or F4. It could happen again if Ozzy wins. SEG might like to protect that surprise enough to disseminate a false spoiler of an all Upolu F3. I watched Episode 1 again a couple days ago, to see what it showed me now that so much has played out. I really felt that Ozzy had a huge story that was much bigger than the way he ultimately played the pre-merge game. Coach, Brandon, and Cochran got the other big stories. We know now that Cochran and Brandon were not winners. They were personality players. Sophie got some special attention in Ep 1, but nothing compared to the two returnees, and she did not get a confessional prior to the camp scenes. Typically the winner gets a line in the intro portion. Rick did, but it was in relation to Coach, but we know Rick is not winning as we barely know that Rick is on the show at this point. Albert got zip. The first episode attention points to a Coach or Ozzy win, with Sophie has the only other viable candidate, but they got 20-1 the attention. The other possible SEG lie is that SU says Coach does not win. Jim and Keith feel that Coach will win per their Ponderosa video, if someone doesn't stop him. They don't think he is the goat. I think it is very possible that Coach does win, because he is "Running the Show" just like Boston Rob. In the case of an all-Upolu F3, the Savai'i should vote for the person they think dominated the game. Very seldom is that person punished the way Russell was, and Russell cut throats and broke his word in addition to being a saboteur and a gloating arrogant smelly troll. It does not look like Coach is going to do anything Russhellish. Because SU has been fooled before, I lean towards a Coach or Ozzy win here.
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11-27-11, 11:10 PM (EST)
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144. "RE: SurvivorsUnite Summary" |
Thanks for posting those thoughts, Krautboy, and thanks for giving your perspective on SU's posts as well, Modesty! I have to say, I have had a very hard time believing that it will be an all Upolu F3, and that if it is, why wouldn't Coach win it all? I think OFG makes a great argument, and I think at this point that I am in total agreement with her. I don't see a winning edit from either Albert or Sophie at this point in the game. We know it won't be Rick or Edna. So, I think that Ozzy and Coach are both in a pretty good position to be who the game is really about. I also thought that the recrap placed some doubt as to either of them winning. Which, at this point, is a good sign, imo. FWIW.

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12-04-11, 05:44 AM (EST)
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148. "RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day" |
Maxx managed to stress me out this week. I am pro Ozzy and anti-Cochran, so I actually cared for once. *does happy dance that Ozzy beats Cockroach*
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12-04-11, 10:55 AM (EST)
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149. "RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day" |
Bummer. I would have loved to see the expression on Ozzy`s face if Cochran managed to beat him somehow. That would have been great TV!
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12-04-11, 05:23 PM (EST)
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152. "RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day" |
I'm just anti Redemption Island. Their torches were snuffed, they are no longer actually in the game.
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12-05-11, 09:17 PM (EST)
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158. "RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day" |
Their torches were snuffed, they are no longer actually in the game.True, but because RI is indeed a part of the game, it is now a viable option to get to the end game. So, it really isn't necessarily, "their torches were snuffed so they are no longer in the game". As we have seen Ozzy play it that way. And let's face it, it's not a bad strategy for one that lacks in the social arena. It now becomes a viable option to end game...

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12-06-11, 03:04 AM (EST)
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162. "RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day" |
It's an awful twist, BUT they are still in The Game because they still have buffs. The game has been expanded beyond the torch, now the sign of life is your buff.When they have really lost it will be when people on the jury come back in (or a person). Which is what Jim pitched to Probst on his way out as a possible further chance for Redemption. Instead of thinking as the RI person as a loser -- I think of an Ozzy RI player as someone who was considered dangerous -- and it is a contest between those who fear you and want you to stay out and your will to not let them kick you out. It means that the ability to kick someone out is not entirely in the hands of the group. When Survivor was young, it was truly a social game, where the object was to integrate yourself into the group. But now it is played as a game and not a paradigm of surviving in the wilderness. The vote is merely an elimination of a competitor. You did play well, therefore you are out. RI was conceived as a way to stop that kind of simplistic thinking of selecting group members by eliminating the fittest for survival. If the fittest will survive anyway, then why not keep them and let them provide for the larger group? Sadly, it is a clunky twist, but I don't hate the reason it came to be.
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dabo 22275 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-06-11, 03:32 AM (EST)
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164. "RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day" |
I actually do agree that Ozzy landed on the actual only game aspect of RI, and good for him. It still isn't really Survivor.Survivor was never a game about the fittest for survival, otherwise Gretchen or Rudy would have won way back in season 1, beacause they actually tallied the best points in survivalism. It is a social, diplomatic game about navigating obstacles, those obstacles mostly being the other players in the game. In the end the jurists vote on what? Basically, though everyone values different things, the jurists vote on what makes them feel best. I like so-and-so, so-and-so beat me at the game, so-and-so was most friendly to me, so-and-so was on my original tribe, good for me.
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12-04-11, 08:53 PM (EST)
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154. "RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day" |
Edna has more or less advertised herself as a doormat, IMO. Okay, approaching Coach when no one else seemed to like him might have been smart, but she had to use that to be on top of his strategy, not outside of it. Instead she offered to give massages and do laundry. If she didn't even intuit that something not to her benefit might be going on until now, she has herself to blame.
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12-04-11, 10:26 PM (EST)
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155. "RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day" |
Agree. She played housewife /cleaning lady/ geisha (not really but the massage thing) instead of playing with the power brokers.The only way that work ethic gets you far in Survivor is if you identify a niche where you NOT doing the work is felt in a "what would we do without that person" sort of way. And even that doesn't work near the end of the game. These guys are willing to sit on the sand and do nothing and just get through the last week. These people booted one of the best providers they could ask for instead of negotiating some sort of "we'll keep you for your fish" deal. Placing obvious importance on yourself for doing domestic chores only annoys people. Edna's friend Mick was another one who stupidly held back from forming alliances early. He stumbled into the F3 by being one of only four left who made the merge, as a strength in challenges asset. I wonder if Edna took advice from him.
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12-06-11, 02:17 AM (EST)
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161. "RE: Episode Pearl Harbor Day" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-06-11 AT 02:19 AM (EST)Edna, I can't fathom as a practicing Anesthesiologist. She didn't even get the dehydration question right in the quiz....that is BASIC! Actually, in defense of anesthesiology, I have to say I can see her as one. It is one of the more arcane medical arts, but follow-- First of all, the dehydration question probably was derived from their pre-game training, adjusted for the environment and conditions they would be living in, and averaged for the average person, considering the amount of physical activity that would be required of them. Seriously, you don't need a gallon of water per day to stay hydrated if you spend most of your time sitting at a desk in a nice office building, but if you are out picking cabbages all day in the fields under a hot sun maybe you need more water than a pencil-pusher. So, Edna as an anesthesiologist, she doesn't deal in averages except as a starting point. She is used to taking into account a lot of factors in dosing her patients, like age, size, weight, gender, general physical condition, known allergies, dental problems, general medical history, and so on. Given how small and slight she is, she would have known immediately that she would probably not require as much water per day as someone as big and beefy as Rick, and adjusted her thinking per her own needs. It was a stupid question.
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12-05-11, 05:25 PM (EST)
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156. "Final 3 Confirmed" |
The Sourced Spoilers summarized here...http://community.realitytvworld.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/rtvw2/community/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=7726&forum=DCForumID2&omm=99 ...are still in tact, with the exception of iVrdo210, who has proven to be a fake; just riding on SU’s coattails. SurvivorsUnite recently confirmed that Ozzy returns to the game and the final three, with this post in his thread at SSucks: “evans992 wrote: Ozzy returns to the game and we may meet Nicki...hm. Thanks for committing to something! 
________________________________________ CircuitJunkie wrote: he also pretty much confirmed that the gif he posted was in fact the F3. ________________________________________ SurvivorsUnite wrote: Correct” ________________________________________ He also confirmed that the vote tally of the final vote remains unspoiled…
However, based on what we’ve seen so far, and how many jury members will feel betrayed by the Final TC, I would speculate that Sophie is still the best bet to win…  Krautboy
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12-06-11, 06:26 PM (EST)
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166. "RE: Final 3 Confirmed" |
I just saw the animated gif - that's pretty compelling evidence... and even shows one person looking "down" at what I would assume to be the final breakfast food feast thingy. If it's not the F3, then I'm not sure what it could be (family visit, maybe?)
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12-11-11, 01:23 AM (EST)
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169. "Ep 14 spoilers" |
Maxx is up ...OZZY beats EDNA. Brandon wins immunity, then has a meltdown at TC. He then gives immunity away -- to Albert. Guess who they vote out. No, it is not Coach, Sophie, or Rick. Maxx has spoiled the next duel, not being as sure as we are that it will air in the Finale. OZZY wins. (Ozzy will return to the game, yay! ) I think Ozzy fans will share my gratitude for knowing for sure a bit early. Boy, Sean Hantz's encouragement didn't last long, did it? Guess Brandon really had no plan once he got past the point where he had laid out his votes back on Day 9 or whatever it was. How to be loyal now? Can't be done! I searched around the youtube verse and found a clip of the next tribal council ... here you go ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ear-3e2s3k 
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12-11-11, 03:33 AM (EST)
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170. "RE: Ep 14 spoilers" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-11-11 AT 03:46 AM (EST)Well, well, there is a duel or a truel going on in Sucks Spoilers. SimpaticoWins claims that Maxx and Survivors Unite are getting their spoilers from missyae, who is getting them from Coach (according to SW). That missyae has been giving them to Maxx to post because of the lawsuit. Maxx says he's full of it. Maxx and SU are posting the same thing though. SU posted that Brandon gives away immunity prior to maxx posting it. SimpaticoWins says that Brandon will be the returnee, that yes he will be voted out next, but without a fuss, and he will beat Ozzy. That is all that SW has spoiled except that SU is wrong, and now challenging that Maxx is wrong. From what I gather, the theory is that Coach has been feeding accurate spoilers, but that the Finale spoilers are not going to be accurate. I am keeping an open mind, because I could see why someone would do that. For example, if Coach thinks he won, and wants people surprised. Also, given Brandon's prominence this season, it is not at all impossible he could be F3 and not Albert. But this means that Ozzy would be in the Finale, but would fall short in exactly the same way that Matt (and Mike) did, only to be bested by the person who just got to RI. Making RI a total waste of time twice in a row. If you are interested in following the fighting, the main thread is maxxfisher's Ep 14 spoilers topic, but there is another one by Simpatico and another by SU. I will say it is interesting that maxx gave a preemptive swat to Simpatico in his latest spoiler article. Which would be very much Jim Early style ... even though Maxx is not Jim. ETA link to Sucks topic http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/89465
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12-15-11, 04:43 AM (EST)
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172. "finale spoilers, pt. 1" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-15-11 AT 04:49 AM (EST)Damn. Maxx tells us that Ozzy loses at F4. That's all I really cared to know, but to back up -- Ozzy beats Brandon. Ozzy wins immunity at F5. They vote out Rick. Sophie wins the final immunity. Ozzy is voted out a third time in one season. Basically goes out last of his tribe in the last challenge like Brett, except that Brett was invisible all season until his immunity run. Ozzy might be the highest profile person to go out at F4 since Elizabeth Filarski had a F4 boot episode all to herself. OK, there have been some big characters who were F4: Pachal, Helen, Eliza, Cirie,Yau Man, Matty, Taj, Jerri ,, but we tend to think of the F4 edit as that UTR player. Not this time. Pt 2 will discuss jurors, but Maxx's knowledge on this is going to be mostly spec, I would think. So, Maxx agrees with SU. Simpaticowins says the F3 is wrong, but he also said that Brandon is the returnee and not Ozzy. So either way, no one is predicting Ozzy for the finals.  "If given a choice between two equally promising lines of play, always choose the more elegant."
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12-15-11, 05:50 PM (EST)
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175. "RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1" |
Sophie can't go on an immunity run, as she will only win the last one, but that does make three -- just not the kind of sequential run to the end that impresses. A win that takes out Ozzy may carry some weight.As far as I'm concerned, I don't favor players who let someone else carry the weight of the game play. Coach directed ... she reined in Albert. I'm also not a big fan of 21 year olds getting the Sole Survivor title over mature players. You could see last night that Albert had no special affection for Sophie at all. The only person who seemed to have reluctance to let her go was Coach. I think Sophie has been cold and clinical and a bit of a snob (young, very smart, thinks she knows it all, but doesn't know life or human nature as well as she thinks she does). In spite of the fact that I am totally not with Coach's religious trip, I like the way he truly puts his soul into the game and doesn't treat Survivor like a board game where you schmooze the pieces as you knock them off, so I would vote for Coach.
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12-16-11, 07:30 AM (EST)
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177. "RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1" |
Well you had to figure Ozzy was gonna get sawed off if he didn't win final immunity. Those people might be dumb but they ain't stupid. And I can see how Albert could turn some jurors off. I don't really like any of the ones left, but you gotta think Coach and Sophie will be fighting it out for the title.
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12-16-11, 11:47 AM (EST)
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178. "RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1" |
I didn't think I'd be wrong about Ozzy not making the finals, I was suggesting that if I was wrong, it was about following Maxx Fisher's lead on who the Final 3 would be (Albert, Coach and Sophie). Even the person who didn't think that would be the Final 3 said that Ozzy wouldn't make it there, after all.Ozzy's only chance of making the Final 3 would have been to win the final duel (which I think he can do), then win the final two Immunities (which I was less sure of). I knew that if he failed to do all that, he'd be a goner since even Coach isn't dumb enough to want that particular warrior around. I also think that Coach and Sophie will be fighting it out for the title of Sole Survivor. Albert will probably get one vote, at most, and the other eight will be up for grabs with Coach and Sophie going for them. 
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12-17-11, 01:17 AM (EST)
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179. "RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1" |
Albert might get 0 if he makes the final. In these 3 person finals, there's usually one finalist who goes voteless, and that would NOT be Sophie or Coach in a final of them vs. Albert.
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12-17-11, 12:29 PM (EST)
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181. "RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1" |
Brandon is a wild card, certainly, but if he maintains his religious persona to the end (even to the live reunion), then(1) He put the forgiveness aspect on himself, and (2) God told Coach to send Brandon to Redemption. So I could see his vote going for either Albert or Coach. I don't think he would vote for Sophie ever, he is frightened by women who are strong and smart. That's the thing about jurists that maybe even Coach, who has been on two juries, doesn't understand; they almost invariably, as individuals, cast their votes by determining what makes them feel best. Some will vote for the better player out of respect, some will vote for the person they like the most, it is more a popularity contest at that point.
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12-17-11, 07:31 PM (EST)
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184. "RE: finale spoilers, pt. 1" |
I think the returning player bit might play a role in antipathy towards Coach, but I think the bigger role might be due to the fact that he was really gung-ho on "loyalty, honor and integrity." I'm pretty sure Rick, Edna and Brandon would disagree with that, especially Brandon and Edna. Sophie might win simply by keeping her hands relatively clean, at least in the eyes of Dawn, Keith, Ozzy, Whitney, Rick and Edna. As for Brandon, at least Albert voted with him against Sophie, so that's why I see Albert as the one most likely to get Brandon's vote. Since I think Brandon would feel most betrayed by Coach, I don't think Coach will get his vote, and I doubt he'd give his vote to a strong woman if they intimidate him.
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12-17-11, 05:31 PM (EST)
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182. "Maxx on Finale (jury) pt II" |
http://tvfunspot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13878He does not know how anyone voted, but he tells what he has heard of how FTC went. Coach getting blasted for all the Praying. Rick, Brandon, Whitney, Dawn especially. Edna very bitter. As speculated by many, Sophie appears to ride the storm the best. Coach might get Jim's vote, Brandon will likely vote Coach or Albert. Cochran maybe Coach. Whitney, Keith, Ozzy, Rick, Edna, Dawn most likely for Sophie. Easy win.
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