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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings
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"S23 Voting Score"
For those who are interested, I will once again track the voting records of those who participate in Dabo's voting thread. (If you would prefer not to be listed, just let me know...)

For EP1 the scoring will be:

1 point for Reward Challenge Winner
1 Point for Immunity Challenge Winner
2 points for Tribal Council Votee

Good Luck and remember we are here to have fun!


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: S23 Voting Score kingfish 09-15-11 1
 RE: S23 Voting Score Belle Book 09-15-11 2
 Update after EP1 Krautboy 09-18-11 3
 EP2 Points Available Krautboy 09-20-11 4
   RE: EP2 Points Available Brownroach 09-20-11 5
       RE: EP2 Points Available Krautboy 09-20-11 6
           RE: EP2 Points Available Brownroach 09-20-11 7
               RE: EP2 Points Available Blind Freddy 09-20-11 8
                   RE: EP2 Points Available Brownroach 09-20-11 11
               RE: EP2 Points Available Krautboy 09-20-11 9
                   RE: EP2 Points Available Brownroach 09-20-11 10
 Update after EP2 Krautboy 09-27-11 12
 Scoring for EP3 Krautboy 09-27-11 13
 Update after EP3 Krautboy 10-01-11 14
   RE: Update after EP3 Travel_Queen 10-03-11 35
 Scoring for EP4 Krautboy 10-01-11 15
   RE: Scoring for EP4 Round Robin 10-02-11 16
       RE: Scoring for EP4 Krautboy 10-02-11 18
       Compromise? Krautboy 10-02-11 20
       RE: Scoring for EP4 Scarlett O Hara 10-02-11 22
   RE: Scoring for EP4 kingfish 10-02-11 17
       RE: Scoring for EP4 Krautboy 10-02-11 19
       RE: Scoring for EP4 Flowerpower 10-02-11 21
   RE: Scoring for EP4 kiki_k 10-02-11 23
   My 2 cents tribephyl 10-03-11 25
       RE: My 2 cents Krautboy 10-03-11 26
           RE: My 2 cents Outfrontgirl 10-07-11 41
               RE: My 2 cents dabo 10-07-11 43
 Dabo's call... Krautboy 10-02-11 24
   RE: Dabo's call... Round Robin 10-03-11 28
       RE: Dabo's call... Krautboy 10-03-11 29
 R.I.P. Krautboy 10-03-11 27
   Hold the bus! Flowerpower 10-03-11 30
       RE: Hold the bus! Krautboy 10-03-11 31
           RE: Hold the bus! dabo 10-03-11 32
               RE: Hold the bus! parathor 10-03-11 33
                   RE: Hold the bus! dabo 10-03-11 34
                       RE: Hold the bus! Round Robin 10-04-11 36
                           RE: Hold the bus! dabo 10-04-11 37
                               RE: Hold the bus! Round Robin 10-04-11 38
                                   RE: Hold the bus! dabo 10-04-11 39
 Update after Ep4 dabo 10-07-11 40
   RE: Update after Ep4 Round Robin 10-07-11 42
       RE: Update after Ep4 kiki_k 10-07-11 44
           RE: Update after Ep4 Brownroach 10-08-11 45
               RE: Update after Ep4 Krautboy 10-09-11 46
           So, KB??? dabo 10-10-11 48
               RE: So, KB??? tribephyl 10-10-11 49
                   RE: So, KB??? martinigirl 10-10-11 50
                       RE: So, KB??? dabo 10-11-11 52
               RE: So, KB??? Krautboy 10-10-11 51
 RE: S23 Voting Score Scarlett O Hara 10-09-11 47
 Scoring for Ep5 dabo 10-11-11 53
   RE: Scoring for Ep5 Round Robin 10-11-11 54
       RE: Scoring for Ep5 dabo 10-11-11 55
       ARG! dabo 10-11-11 56
           RE: ARG! Krautboy 10-11-11 57
               RE: ARG! dabo 10-11-11 58
 Update after week 5 dabo 10-13-11 59
   Fishing for a compliment tribephyl 10-13-11 60
       RE: Fishing for a compliment emydi 10-13-11 62
       RE: Fishing for a compliment Blind Freddy 10-13-11 63
           RE: Fishing for a compliment kingfish 10-13-11 64
   RE: Update after week 5 Corvis 10-13-11 61
       RE: Update after week 5 PepeLePew13 10-13-11 65
           Let's Be Clear, Please dabo 10-14-11 66
   RE: Update after week 5 Belle Book 10-14-11 67
       RE: Update after week 5 Blind Freddy 10-14-11 68
 Ep6 points available dabo 10-17-11 69
   RE: Ep6 points available tribephyl 10-17-11 70
       RE: Ep6 points available dabo 10-17-11 71
 Update after week 6 dabo 10-21-11 72
   Bonus question suggestions Brownroach 10-21-11 73
       RE: Bonus question suggestions dabo 10-21-11 74
           RE: Bonus question suggestions Brownroach 10-21-11 75
       RE: Bonus question suggestions kiki_k 10-21-11 76
           RE: Bonus question suggestions dabo 10-21-11 77
               RE: Bonus question suggestions Flowerpower 10-21-11 79
                   RE: Bonus question suggestions dabo 10-21-11 80
                       RE: Bonus question suggestions Flowerpower 10-21-11 81
                           RE: Bonus question suggestions tribephyl 10-21-11 82
           RE: Bonus question suggestions Brownroach 10-21-11 78
               RE: Bonus question suggestions kiki_k 10-21-11 83
                   RE: Bonus question suggestions Brownroach 10-21-11 84
                       RE: Bonus question suggestions kiki_k 10-21-11 85
 Ep7 points possible dabo 10-24-11 86

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1. "RE: S23 Voting Score"
You don't really need to add them, do you?

I know, I'm the Cochran this week.

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2. "RE: S23 Voting Score"
I think I got them all right. So that's good for me!


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3. "Update after EP1"
Survivor 23 Voting Record

EP1 Scoring
1 point for RC Winner
1 Point for Team IC winner
2 points for TC Votee


Total Name EP1

3 Ayak 3
4 Belle Book 4
4 Blind Freddy 4
3 Booted 3
4 Brownroach 4
4 byoffer 4
4 C T Girl 4
4 Corvis 4
4 dabo 4
4 emydi 4
4 Flower Power 4
3 HitmanPayne 3
3 kiki_k 3
0 kingfish 0
0 kircon 0
4 Krautboy 4
4 Loree 4
3 michel 3
3 Naked 3
4 parathor 4
4 PepeLePew13 4
4 redbeard103152 4
4 Round Robin 4
4 Scarlett O Hara 4
3 Travelor 3
4 Travel_Queen 4
4 tribephyl 4
3 Zeek 3


Great start for the SBlows Community!

Looks like a fun season…good luck!



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4. "EP2 Points Available"
For EP2 the scoring will be:
5 points possible

1 point for RC winner
1 point for IC winner
(2 points if RC/IC are combined)
2 points for TC Votee
1 bonus point for who finds the HII


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5. "RE: EP2 Points Available"
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-11 AT 04:37 PM (EST)

So if a person picks an RC winner and an IC winner, and it turns out the RC and IC are combined, the IC pick is worth two points and the RC pick is worth none?

Or, do you mean a person will only pick up one point if one of the guesses was incorrect?


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6. "RE: EP2 Points Available"
I'm assuming a combined challenge, but I wanted to try and cover myself.To be honest, I didn't run through the other scenarios...

So let's take a look.
If there's only one challenge, 2 points for a correct pick. (We would consider it a combined challenge.)

If there are actually two seperate challenges, one point would be awarded for each and those who assumed a combined challenge would only get one point for their correct pick. In otherwords they could claim a correct pick for the RC or the IC, but not for both.

If you assume seperate challenges and select the same winning tribe for both, but it is a combine challenge, you will be awarded one point.

Not perfect, but the best I can do at this point...



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7. "RE: EP2 Points Available"
Okay so you are saying we must choose one scenario or the other, not do what I did in the vote thread and pick "just in case" winners -- those won't count?
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8. "RE: EP2 Points Available"
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-11 AT 07:31 PM (EST)

HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD! HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!

Just following KB's instructions to have fun

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11. "RE: EP2 Points Available"
We used to have a poster here named forehead.


He was cool, I miss him.

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9. "RE: EP2 Points Available"
Your picks look fine BR...in fact I may use them!

I'll try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but in the end my decision is final. (I always wanted to say that.)


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10. "RE: EP2 Points Available"
Then I will reinstate my (alternate - "just in case") individual challenge picks which I removed, and you can judge as you wish.
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12. "Update after EP2"
Survivor 23 Voting Record

EP2 Scoring
1 point for RC winner
1 point for IC winner
(2 points if RC/IC are combined)
2 points for TC Votee
1 bonus point for who finds the HII

Total Player EP1 EP2
3 Ayak 3 *
9 Belle Book 4 5
9 Blind Freddy 4 5
7 Booted 3 4
9 Brownroach 4 5
4 byoffer 4 *
9 C T Girl 4 5
8 Corvis 4 4
7 dabo 4 3
8 emydi 4 4
9 Flower Power 4 5
3 HitmanPayne 3 *
5 kiki_k 3 2
2 kingfish 0 2
0 kircon 0 *
9 Krautboy 4 5
8 Loree 4 4
4 martinigirl * 4
7 michel 3 4
3 Naked 3 *
9 parathor 4 5
4 PepeLePew13 4 *
4 redbeard103152 4 5
9 Round Robin 4 5
9 Scarlett O Hara 4 5
1 SuperClyde * 1
4 Travelor 3 1
8 Travel_Queen 4 4
8 tribephyl 4 4
3 Zeek 3 *


Nine way tie for first place...all with perfect scores through the fist two Episodes.



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13. "Scoring for EP3"
For EP3 the scoring will be:
4 points possible

1 point for winner of the Redemption Island Duel
1 point for IC/RC winner
2 points for TC Votee



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14. "Update after EP3"
Survivor 23 Voting Record

For EP3 the scoring will be:
4 points possible

1 point for winner of the Redemption Island Duel
1 point for IC/RC winner
2 points for TC Votee


Total EP1 EP2 EP3
3 Ayak 3 * *
13 Belle Book 4 5 4
13 Blind Freddy 4 5 4
7 Booted 3 4 *
13 Brownroach 4 5 4
4 byoffer 4 * *
13 C T Girl 4 5 4
12 Corvis 4 4 4
11 dabo 4 3 4
12 emydi 4 4 4
13 Flower Power 4 5 4
3 HitmanPayne 3 * *
9 kiki_k 3 2 4
4 kingfish 0 2 2
0 kircon 0 * *
13 Krautboy 4 5 4
12 Loree 4 4 4
8 martinigirl * 4 4
7 michel 3 4 *
7 Naked 3 * 4
13 parathor 4 5 4
4 PepeLePew13 4 * *
4 redbeard103152 4 5 4
13 Round Robin 4 5 4
13 Scarlett O Hara 4 5 4
5 SuperClyde * 1 4
4 Travelor 3 1 *
12 Travel_Queen 4 4 4
12 tribephyl 4 4 4
7 Zeek 3 * 4


Top 10 still tied with perfect scores…maybe that will change this week….




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35. "RE: Update after EP3"
Hi Krautboy...I believe I did not get the RI winner correct, I had the poet winning : ) ..so I should have only gotten 3 points.

Thx.

TQ

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15. "Scoring for EP4"
In an effort to keep Maxx Fisher from spoiling the game…

EP4 Scoring:
{6 points possible)

2 points (1 for each correct):
Who will represent the Savaii Tribe as spectators at the RI duel?

1 point:
Will Jim or Cochran find out Ozzy has the idol?

1 point:
Who breaks Rupert’s record in the weight lifting Challenge?
(Select either no one, or the person’s name)

2 points:
Who does Stacy vote for at TC.

We will go back to more traditional voting if we get cooperation from Maxx Fisher



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16. "RE: Scoring for EP4"
You're making it too damn complicated. I don't give a rat's @$$ about Maxx blanking Fisher. I don't even read the son of a B. Leave the damn voting the same as always, and if you get a 10-way tie, so be it. This complicated voting is taking more fun out for me than it's putting back in. Not all of us want to get that deep into it before the damn episode is even shown.
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18. "RE: Scoring for EP4"
Sorry RR: I'd feel the same way you do, if I didn't know about Maxx, but too many people do...we will go back to a less complicated vote if Maxx let's us know when he will release his info. If he does, then we could have a voting deadline that coordinates with his release time (kind of like when Snewser was spoiling.

I'm just trying to keep everyone happy, while making it it fun and interesting...obviously, it'snot that easy.


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20. "Compromise?"
RR: How about if we use the different format this week and go back to the traditional voting next week. The only change I would like to suggest is adding one bonus question each week, to keep the interest of those who already know who wins duel and challenge and the votee?

And in the mean time, maybe we can implement a voting deadline to coinside with the release of Maxx Fishers article.

Wht do think?


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22. "RE: Scoring for EP4"
My Dear Round Robin,

While we are glad to have you here on these boards because we value everyone's input here, I take personal offense at your words towards one of our most trusted peeps at Survivor Blows. We do not tolerate foul language or rants directed at any of our people here.

Krautboy has graced these boards far longer than many here and has always contributed greatly. He is a first class spoiler in his own right, based on his observation and reasoning skills, and we are so fortunate that he graces our boards. He is also one of the main reasons I continue to come back here each Survivor season.

I stand behind him 100 percent. Let's face it - Maxx Fisher is a sourced spoiler who is leaking information out each week. To make the voting game more competitive, I fully support Krautboy's introduction of a few extra questions.

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17. "RE: Scoring for EP4"
I think you're doing a fine job, KB, and I'm grateful that you take the time and effort to do the best with the cards we're dealt.

Thanks.

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19. "RE: Scoring for EP4"


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21. "RE: Scoring for EP4"
LAST EDITED ON 10-02-11 AT 11:14 AM (EST)

Krautboy...I, too, appreciate all of your efforts. No, it's not easy, and try as we might to avoid Maxx Fischer, it's really hard to when you gather info for everyone on these boards in the SOTS. This is Survivor Spoilers after all! And, while I don't want to open that can of worms again, how can you deny spoilers in the spoiler section???

I think a bonus question that isn't spoiled by the masses is a great way to keep us all engaged in the mystery that we so love to solve prior to airtime each Wednesday night. I have written Maxx Fischer as well, asking that he delay his release time to either Tuesday pm or Wednesday afternoon. I don't see why he wouldn't as long as there aren't a whole bunch of other spoilers that start popping up. It would be a great way to keep us all happy.

Bring on the bonus question (s)! And thanks for all of the logic and reason you bring to our boards!

Flo Po.

Round Robin, while I am not a moderator I would like to suggest that you peruse our guidelines. Note #II, and III, thanks.



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23. "RE: Scoring for EP4"
LAST EDITED ON 10-02-11 AT 01:13 PM (EST)

My only tiny problem is that at least 2 of the 4 (and especially the who does Stacy vote for one) are pure guess/luck as there is no way to figure them out with vidcaps and could literally be anyone

That said: I don't really care. This is a fun little game that KB is nice enough to put the work in for week after week, keeping track for the rest of us and for which I appreciate him. IOW I'm totally cool with the roulette wheel kind of odds this week.

eta: and PS -- considering I'm not even in the tied for top 10 1st place category, these luck questions might actually *help* my score, so I really should not complain!

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25. "My 2 cents"
I fear responding to all of this may end up undermining wonderful friendships but I must step in and at least share my thoughts both as a participant and as a game host of many years here.

Before getting into what is indeed a game and what is indeed just a vote tally, the Vote Thread was started to give those from all forums (Fanatics, Bashers, Spoilers) a chance to let their votes be known.
There was no overall tallying of votes or at least no weekly rerepresentation of the accrued points, until recently.
That's why SB used to host their own Survivor Spoiler Island.
Alas, due to the overwhelming amount of seasons with entire bootlists, Spoiler Island (and a few of my own games) ended up closing shop.
The fact that last season went unsourced was a blessing for me as a host because I got a chance to revive the Anti-Boot Game.

Alas, the sourced spoiler is back, with a modicum of restraint thank goodness but back none the less.
As a host it is during these times that one must consider adapting the game to be more challenging. For fun sake.
So in this case I can see why KB is wanting to change things up a bit.
It's where we naturally turn when the boot is given to us; who's the other target? What of the CBS teasers? What about the HII? etc.
KB is hosting and it's an adaptation made to enliven the overall experience.
However, and this is where I stand different.
KB has created a game, a fine diversion.
I hope to not have to remind folks that there is already a Survivor Games Forum.
Where myself and other amazing contributors create fun diversions for all members here.
Perhaps, KB, if you're going to do more than just tally the votes, you should consider starting your own game in the Games Fourm.
I and kircon would love to have you and if you need any help at all I am more than willing to share with you whatever you need.

All in all I say; leave the vote thread alone. It's where we place our votes.
Open a spoiling game in the Games Forum. I'm sure bunches of folks would love to play. I know I would.

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26. "RE: My 2 cents"
Tribe: Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. To be honest with you, I wasn't aware that there was a Games Forum. My bad..., You are correct, that is where my little game belongs.

I agree that we should leave the vote thread alone and work toward getting some cooperation from Maxx Fisher, so that the vote thread has some value.


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41. "RE: My 2 cents"
As we are clearing the air here, I hope it's OK if I say something.

I am beyond upset at the idea that people here want to try to influence Maxx Fisher for this game. This is not the only game being played.

A lot of people, myself included, play and love the CBS Fantasy game. That game requires some thought about who to pick even if the answers to the boot and duel are known. It really sucks if info comes out at the last minute, as it benefits the people who are able to go online right before blackout, but it leaves out the people who cannot -- whether because they work or they had to go somewhere that day, whatever.

The CBS game is a season long cumulative game where one bad week can be the end.

There are other games, like Survivor Fantasy, that award points for early bird picks that go unchanged. That might be something to consider.

Anyhow, my feeling is that there are more Survivor game fans out there who would not want Maxx posting at the deadline than there are of those that do.

I think you have it wrong when you talk about Maxx posting at a certain time. He has made it clear that he will post when he gets info, but he himself isn't sure when he will get it, and he doesn't know when it will be. Last week, he said he might have something on Saturday, and he did. Now everyone here is thinking he will spoil on Saturdays, but maybe not.

Maxx is not a spoiler. He never read spoilers before. He has no understanding of what any of us are into, and he is not inclined to weigh any of our requests.

Still, I felt like I had to say that when you ask for last minute spoilers, that's hard on some of us. As far as my own situation goes, I have a hard enough time dealing with late breaking promos and clues considering that in my time zone the blackout is at 2 pm. I typically have very little time to go over my game decisions, and all I need is for the whole thing to turn on its head in the last hour!

I think it's fair to say from what happened with missyae's last minute clues that it caused a lot of hard feeling. If it comes out a few days earlier, then the spoiler field is leveled ...

To make a good game, the secret to success is to ask questions that have answers that can't be spoiled.

I liked it when the vote thread was just a place for people to state their vision of what would occur in the episode. I bailed as soon as the point counting started.

Krautboy and I go way back, and you know I think you're the greatest, KB, but I would like to see the vote thread back to normal ...
and by all means have a game, but on its own turf, whether it's a separate topic or a separate forum, I don't care.

btw, MESS Hall vote topic does include questions on the side for those who play Fantasy Survivor, optional questions, but the only purpose of the topic is to come up with a tally for the MESS predictions that go into the GUT for the week. There may be some bragging rights, but there is no cumulative winner. And no one ever bickers over it ...

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43. "RE: My 2 cents"
I really don't care a bit about influencing Maxx, as far as I am concerned he is perfectly free to decide things for himself and do as he wishes. And I think he is primarilly motivated to direct traffic to his homesite, which is a perfectly legitimate motivation.

And I basically don't care that much about games anyway, as far as I am concerned spoiling is a collaborative process.

In the process of preparing the vote scoring questions this week for the vote scoring game, I did fully read all that Maxx has posted (that is what I didn't want to post because I didn't want to influence the voting). FloPo asked a question on the voting thread, and even though it may seem I gave her a frivilous response, I did PM her a serious response. It just seemed counter-productive to me, at the time, to post that response while the voting was underway.

As I said, I did fully vet all of Maxx's spoils prior to coming up with the questions for this week, as best as I could. And one of his future spoils does strike me as pure spin. I don't like it one bit, and I don't know actually where it came from, direct or indirect, but it is clearly from the spin cycle.

As far as Maxx goes, he is going to post what he wants when he wants, and perhaps links to that material should be confined to the thread already established for his spoilers.

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24. "Dabo's call..."
LAST EDITED ON 10-02-11 AT 04:40 PM (EST)

Sorry RR, I did not mean to spoil the game for you, and I certainly don't want his to create any hard feelings between anyone here at SBlows.

I've asked Dabo to instruct us what to vote for in his voting thread. I will score whatever voting instructions he gives.

It's supposed to be fun, so if added complexity makes it less fun, then let's keep it simple...

Dabo, it's your call!


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28. "RE: Dabo's call..."
Krautboy, I apologize for blowing my cork on you up there. I shouldn't have done that. That many questions really is too many, but if Dabo puts one in the vote thread obviously we have to see it before we decide if we like it or not. I don't regularly read anything on Sucks, so I don't get my votes from there. I read the SOTS here and make my own judgement as to if I think it's accurate or not, then I vote. And the SOTS writers here are plenty accurate, so that's where I get about 90% of my votes.
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29. "RE: Dabo's call..."
No worries RR...it's all good. Just a game, just for fun.


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27. "R.I.P."
Since it doesn't seem appropriate to change the vote thread, and Maxx Fisher has made the vote thread meaningless, we will end the season in a 10 way tie for first place.

Congratualtions to the winners.


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30. "Hold the bus!"
LAST EDITED ON 10-03-11 AT 07:43 AM (EST)

Hey, hold on! There are 28 folks in that game that want to be considered. What if Maxx holds his posts to Wednesday a la Snewser? Then we could just put the deadline for the voting score as noon on Wednesday, or whatever. No need to throw it all out, is there?

ETA: You could also just start posting the results of the voting score in the Game thread. That's not a big deal either! Please consider keeping it going....thanks.


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31. "RE: Hold the bus!"
Sure, if we get cooperation from Maxx and Dabo is willing to implement a voting deadline, we can start it up again.


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32. "RE: Hold the bus!"
I don't mind including a deadline for the scoring game in the voting thread. But closing the voting thread early would be wrong, the voting thread in my mind represents that spoiling is a cumulative group effort and when the group gets it right we beat EPMB for the week. (And this RI nonsense makes it easier to beat EPMB because the big pick is always who goes home/goes to the jury.)

I am working on a system for making it fair for spoilers and non-spoilers alike this week, so you can keep the scoring game going unbroken, and we'll see what happens in the future with Maxx. I'm also working on making it not too complicated, of course.

This whole controversy reminds me of the early days and the Yahoo Pick'Em game when people who posted their picks after Snewser made his announcement were considered "cheaters" by some of the others playing the game. There was absolutely nothing to win in that game, it was just for fun! It was a silly controversy then and it is silly now, everyone should do their best with what they enjoy and have fun.

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33. "RE: Hold the bus!"
Wow, Snewser! Dude, that is OLD school! Thanks for the memories!!
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34. "RE: Hold the bus!"
The voting thread will be up after midnight sometime, in case anyone is wondering. Been busy and still need to get to some things, back later.
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36. "RE: Hold the bus!"
No hurry, dabo, I'm waiting to see the SOTS before I vote.
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37. "RE: Hold the bus!"
Technically, it is supposed to be a voting thread with at least a 36 hour timeframe, so it is never late unless it isn't posted by 8AM Tuesday morning. If I don't get it done by then others should feel free to do it, because sometimes I just can't get online.
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38. "RE: Hold the bus!"
dabo, you got the scoring changes right. It's a fair system, and I think the makeup question was needed in view of MaxxFisher's expressed refusal to delay posting his information. Good job.
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39. "RE: Hold the bus!"
As far as a fair system, thank you, I tried my best, that's all I can do. I want everyone to have fun with this stuff, nothing else really matters to me. Nothing else really should matter.
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40. "Update after Ep4"
LAST EDITED ON 10-10-11 AT 00:36 AM (EST)

Survivor 23 Voting Record

For EP4 the scoring will be:
6 points possible

2 point for winner of the Redemption Island Duel
1 point for IC/RC winner
1 points for TC Votee
make-up points or gold star on make-up question
2 points on players voted against at Tribal


Total EP1 EP2 EP3 EP4
3 Ayak 3 * * *
19 Belle Book 4 5 4 6
19 Blind Freddy 4 5 4 6
7 Booted 3 4 * *
19 Brownroach 4 5 4 6
4 byoffer 4 * * *
19 C T Girl 4 5 4 6
12 Corvis 4 4 4 *
17 dabo 4 3 4 6
18 emydi 4 4 4 6
19 Flower Power 4 5 4 6
3 HitmanPayne 3 * * *
15 kiki_k 3 2 4 6
8 kingfish 0 2 2 4
0 kircon 0 * * *
19 Krautboy 4 5 4 6
18 Loree 4 4 4 6
14 martinigirl * 4 4 6
7 michel 3 4 * *
11 Naked 3 * 4 4
19 parathor 4 5 4 6
4 PepeLePew13 4 * * *
19 redbeard103152 4 5 4 6
19 Round Robin 4 5 4 6
13 Scarlett O Hara 4 5 4 *
5 SuperClyde * 1 4 *
4 Travelor 3 1 * *
12 Travel_Queen 4 4 4
16 tribephyl 4 4 4 4
11 Zeek 3 * 4 4

Gold Stars awarded on ep 4 vote thread, go claim 'em. And hopefully KB will be back in charge next week, he does it so much better than I.

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42. "RE: Update after Ep4"
That seemed to work out OK. I'd suggest making a bonus question on stuff that MaxxFisher isn't spoiling part of the vote thread for the rest of this season. Change it every week so we don't get in a rut. That oughta keep things interesting.
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44. "RE: Update after Ep4"
The bonus questions this week wasn't anything MaxxFisher spoiled.
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45. "RE: Update after Ep4"
I think RR knows that, he is suggesting that we include a similar bonus question every week from now on.
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46. "RE: Update after Ep4"
I love it when RR and I agree!


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48. "So, KB???"
Will you be coming up with the q's and pt's this week, or is it in my lap? Don't know when I'll be getting the voting thread started, Columbus Day stuff and no school and other busy-ness.

The make-up question and bonus question week 4 were intended to be unspoiled, and though CBS did a lot to narrow down the answers for the make-up question it wasn't fully spoiled.

If it is in my lap again this week, I could use a few suggestions.

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49. "RE: So, KB???"
Alternate target isn't known.
Vote Spread isn't known.
and well I guess that's it for ideas from me.
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50. "RE: So, KB???"
What about first person Jeff asks a question to at Tribal? That shouldnt be spoiled and it could be anyone on the losing tribe.
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52. "RE: So, KB???"
That is an interesting question, but it really goes to an editing decision. However they present Tribal, they don't have to include the actual first question. It would be pure guesswork, though there might be indicators in the promos, so this might be worth exploring in the future.

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51. "RE: So, KB???"
LAST EDITED ON 10-10-11 AT 09:38 PM (EST)

Dabo: Other possibilities for your consideration:

"Will Jim or Cochran be told that Ozzy has a HII?"
"Who will Ozzy and Elyse vote for?"
"Will Coach keep his Idol find a secret?"


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47. "RE: S23 Voting Score"
Well I was late to the party last week KB - working late. If I had voted, than I would have voted for:

Bootee: Stacy
RI Duel Winner: Christine
RC/IC: Upolo

Does this count?

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53. "Scoring for Ep5"
The questions and points this week for those playing the game--

#1. Who loses duel and is eliminated from the game? -- 2 points

#2. Which tribe wins RC/IC? -- 1 point

#3. Which player is voted out to Redemption Island? -- 1 point

#4. How many players receive votes at Tribal? -- 1 point

#5. What is the vote spread? (6 to 1, 5 to 2, 5 to 1 to 1, and so on) -- 1 point

6 points total.

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54. "RE: Scoring for Ep5"
Looks good, dabo. Now I gotta go read the Ep. 5 boot thread and the SOTS and figure that stuff out.
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55. "RE: Scoring for Ep5"
Thank you. I'm really having a tough time deciding what answer to give for #5, it comes down to who knows what and how smart will they be. I know I know, smart and Survivor are not synonymous, but still...
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56. "ARG!"
If I'd thought of it sooner, what I should have asked--

Will Stacey drop the Hantz bomb at Redemption?

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57. "RE: ARG!"
Yes that would have been a great bonus question!

The ones you chose were pretty much spoiled by Maxx using a little deduction...

Thanks for taking the reigns Dabo...you are doing a GREAT JOB!


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58. "RE: ARG!"
Maxx spoiled those? I didn't check for that, I understood he threw out some crypto's, made his own little game out of it, so I didn't think it would go very deep. And, you know, good for him if he's trying to make things fun. But I wanted #4 and #5 to be unspoiled, or at least less spoiled.

Oh, well, live and learn.

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59. "Update after week 5"
LAST EDITED ON 10-14-11 AT 00:15 AM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 10-13-11 AT 09:07 AM (EST)

Survivor 23 Voting Record

For EP5 the scoring will be:
6 points possible

2 point for loser of the Redemption Island Duel
1 point for RC/IC winner
1 point for TC Boot
1 point for number of players voted against at Tribal
1 point for vote spread

Everyone congratulate kingfish, the only one of us to nail it this week for all 6 points!

Total EP1 EP2 EP3 EP4 EP5
3 Ayak 3 * * * *
23 Belle Book 4 5 4 6 4
23 Blind Freddy 4 5 4 6 4
7 Booted 3 4 * * *
23 Brownroach 4 5 4 6 4
4 byoffer 4 * * * *
19 C T Girl 4 5 4 6 *
21 dabo 4 3 4 6 4
22 emydi 4 4 4 6 4
23 Flower Power 4 5 4 6 4
3 HitmanPayne 3 * * * *
19 kiki_k 3 2 4 6 4
14 kingfish 0 2 2 4 6
0 kircon 0 * * * *
23 Krautboy 4 5 4 6 4
22 Loree 4 4 4 6 4
18 martinigirl * 4 4 6 4
7 michel 3 4 * * *
15 Naked 3 * 4 4 4
23 parathor 4 5 4 6 4
23 redbeard103152 4 5 4 6 4
21 Round Robin 4 5 4 6 2
15 Scarlett O Hara 4 5 4 * 2
9 SuperClyde * 1 4 * 4
4 Travelor 3 1 * * *
12 Travel_Queen 4 4 4 * *
20 tribephyl 4 4 4 4 4
15 Zeek 3 * 4 4 4

Belle Book, Blind Freddy, Brownroach, Flower Power, Krautboy, parathor and redbeard103152 in a 7-way tie in the lead, emydi and Loree just 1 point back, myself and Round Robin just 2 points back, tribephyl just 3 points back, C T Girl (who missed this week) and kiki_k just 4 points back, martinigirl just 5 points back (missed the first week). Lot of weeks to go, it is still anyone's game!

(Let me know if I should make any corrections.) Corvis leaves game per request. Pepe leave game per request.

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60. "Fishing for a compliment"
Way to go, kingfish!
uh.. Sir Gupster: the Earl of Girls, the Duke of Dudes, the Master of his own Southern Domain. Finally becomes the Spoilierest Spoiler of all current Spoildom.

Festoon him with feathers!
Bedeck him in baubles!
Wreath him in wisteria!



You'll always be a loser to me, Gupman.

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62. "RE: Fishing for a compliment"
you know the first thing I thought when KW were talking about "throwing away" their votes was "dam, guppy was right!"



I do so hate it when one of my minions is right

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63. "RE: Fishing for a compliment"
From the very first post in this thread...

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Kingfish:
"You don't really need to add them, do you?
I know, I'm the Cochran this week."
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lol...time to get on the 'coch-train' I guess

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64. "RE: Fishing for a compliment"
Just a blind subservient fish finding his acorn.
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61. "RE: Update after week 5"
dabo, please remove me from this game. It makes no sense to play a game with one hand tied behind my back and I'm not interested in untying it.

Thanks!


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65. "RE: Update after week 5"
Ditto, no point in keeping me on there as I stopped bothering with the game after Week one when it became apparent that spoilers were being revealed in the days before each episode.
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66. "Let's Be Clear, Please"
KB established last season that people could bow out of the scoring game per request. That's fine.

The voting thread and the scoring game are two different animals. No one who participates in voting threads should feel they are participating in the scoring game by default, anyone can opt out should they wish.

But I also think it should be recognized that people can continue to participate in the voting threads even if they don't want to be included in the scoring game.

Spoiling is actually a collaborative process. The voting threads are intended to gauge collective determination against EPMB each week, every time more of us are right than wrong we all win. It's for fun. The scoring game as a competition amongst ourselves is also for fun, nothing else.

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67. "RE: Update after week 5"
Well, that was the first time I didn't get all the scoring points correct! Still, how was I to know that Keith & Whitney would throw their votes towards Dawn? Besides, a lot of others got those two questions wrong as well.


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68. "RE: Update after week 5"
Obi-Wan Kenobi: "Luke...feel the Force"
Luke: "I'm trying but it comes and goes"
Yoda: "Ahhh, the Force a breach there in begins"

I hold out hope that eventually, potentially, somehow, someway the pipeline will slow or at least spring enough leaks of doubt to create suspense for us all. And like the hype for Lotteries...if you don't play, you can't win.

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69. "Ep6 points available"
#1. Who loses duel and is eliminated from the game? -- 2 points

#2. Which tribe wins RC/IC? -- 1 point

#3. Which player is voted out to Redemption Island? -- 1 point

#4. Will anyone other than Ozzy question why Keith and Whitney voted for Dawn at Tribal? -- 1 point

#5. Will the vote at Tribal this week be unanimous or divided? -- 1 point

6 points total

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70. "RE: Ep6 points available"
#5. Will the vote at Tribal this week be unanimous or divided? -- 1 point
Considering no one can vote for themselves, a unanimous vote is impossible. Best to ask for a vote spread.
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71. "RE: Ep6 points available"
A unanimous vote, in Survivor terms, is everyone except the person being voted out, who cannot vote for him/herself. In terms of vote spread, this time a 6 to 1 vote (whichever tribe goes to TC) is a unanimous vote, anything else is divided.

Hope that is satisfactory, it is what it is.

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72. "Update after week 6"
Congrats this week to tribephyl and Zeek for perfect 6es. On account of a poorly worded question I gave the benefit of the doubt to a couple of players, it was my bad not theirs. Suggestions for bonus questions this week will be greatly appreciated.

Total EP1 EP2 EP3 EP4 EP5 EP6
3 Ayak 3 * * * * *
28 Belle Book 4 5 4 6 4 5
28 Blind Freddy 4 5 4 6 4 5
7 Booted 3 4 * * * *
28 Brownroach 4 5 4 6 4 5
4 byoffer 4 * * * * *
24 CTgirl 4 5 4 6 * 5
25 dabo 4 3 4 6 4 4
27 emydi 4 4 4 6 4 5
28 Flower Power 4 5 4 6 4 5
3 HitmanPayne 3 * * * * *
24 kiki_k 3 2 4 6 4 5
18 kingfish 0 2 2 4 6 4
0 kircon 0 * * * * *
4 KObrien_fan * * * * * 4
28 Krautboy 4 5 4 6 4 5
27 Loree 4 4 4 6 4 5
23 martinigirl * 4 4 6 4 5
7 michel 3 4 * * * *
19 Naked 3 * 4 4 4 4
27 parathor 4 5 4 6 4 4
28 redbeard103152 4 5 4 6 4 5
23 Round Robin 4 5 4 6 2 2
15 Scarlett O Hara 4 5 4 * 2 *
9 SuperClyde * 1 4 * 4 *
4 Travelor 3 1 * * * *
12 Travel_Queen 4 4 4 * * *
26 tribephyl 4 4 4 4 4 6
21 Zeek 3 * 4 4 4 6


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73. " Bonus question suggestions"
I can think of a few possibilities:

1) Which person(s) will make the epic blunder during the IC?

2) Will there be a vote at Tribal Council?

3) If Ozzy voluntarily goes to RI, will he leave his hii with this tribemates?

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74. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
#2 seems problematic since Jeff may insist they have a vote even if they don't want to, it isn't as if it would be flat-out quitting the game like NaOnka and Purple Kelly.
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75. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
LAST EDITED ON 10-21-11 AT 12:15 PM (EST)

I don't think Jeff would insist on a vote if the whole tribe expresses that they are in agreement. Remember the end of Palau when Ian agreed to step down and let Tom win the final IC, there was no formal TC vote -- Jeff dispensed with TC altogether.

If there is a vote Ozzy would be forced to vote for someone other than himself according to Survivor rules, which is absurd if he's volunteering to leave.

ETA: But in any case, if Jeff did insist, the correct answer to #2 would be YES, and anyone who said NO would be wrong.

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76. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
BR's Question 3 gives away who wins/loses IC. I understand most people get spoiled before the official votes & those who don't like the fact that we have MaxxFisher this season no longer participate, but I don't know if that is true in every case. So I don't think that questions should be a choice.
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77. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
Good point. And it should be noted that Maxx hasn't yet posted his spoils for this week. Actually, I haven't checked, but I don't expect he has, and if so he hadn't when BR posted above.
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79. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
And it should be noted that Maxx hasn't yet posted his spoils for this week. Actually, I haven't checked, but I don't expect he has, and if so he hadn't when BR posted above.

Modesty has posted on our boards that Maxx will post his spoiler tonight. So, if we are going to have a vote, let's get to it! If no one posts, I will be happy to...

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80. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
I thought you had a pre-voting thread idea you wanted to try? You might as well do it, since you understand better than I what you had in mind.
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81. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
Yes, I did, but I think Tribe stepped in and has it all planned out. I sent him a pm, if he doesn't show up soon, I'll go with it! Thanks
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82. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
Go ahead with it for this week, FloPo.
I have already posted an introduction thread for the Game Of The Spoilers but it's an early sneek-peek of Episode 8 and I'm not exactly quite ready to take answers for Episode 7.
One last week and then I can start the GOTS for real.
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78. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
LAST EDITED ON 10-21-11 AT 02:48 PM (EST)

BR's Question 3 gives away who wins/loses IC

It doesn't give away anything that we don't already know is possible from the show itself. The question is worded "If Ozzy goes to RI..." From the post-show preview:

Ozzy (talking to Cochran): I don't want to go to Redemption but if it's like a do or die situation, I will go.

If one thinks Upolu is going to TC this week it could be answered "does not apply."


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83. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
While what you wrote is technically true, once the spoilers come out (and they will) IF, in fact, it is spoiled that Savaii loses & Ozzy goes to RI, then there will be accusations that the question "spoils" the IC winner. People will not care when the question was actually crafted & posted or if there is an "if" in it.

You gotta admit I'm right on this.

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84. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
LAST EDITED ON 10-21-11 AT 04:39 PM (EST)

No I don't. The question is about something that was shown as a possibility in the post-show preview. So I don't see how there could be accusations that it's spoiling anything.

But -- it would need to be clear that the options to get the bonus point are yes/no/other. So it could be refined as follows:

If Savaii loses the IC and Ozzy goes to RI, will he leave his hii with his tribemates? Choose one:
a) yes
b) no
c) this will not apply, either because Upolu loses the IC or because Ozzy does not go to RI if Savaii loses


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85. "RE: Bonus question suggestions"
LOL! And I think you are giving some mighty touchy people way too much credit.

But I do think the refined question #3 in this post ^^ is perfectly fine. Better safe than sorry.

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86. "Ep7 points possible"
This week all questions shall be worth 1 point for a total of 6 points possible, in an effort to even things between the usual spoiled and unspoiled.

#1. Who loses duel and is eliminated from the game? -- 1 point

#2. Which tribe wins RC/IC? -- 1 point

#3. Which player is voted out to Redemption Island? -- 1 point

#4. Will the Savaii at the Arena learn that Brandon is Russell's nephew? -- 1 point

#5. Will Rick have a confessional? -- 1 point

#6. Will Whitney have a confessional? -- 1 point

(Answers to 5 and 6 are yes or no, 1 or more confessionals are Yes, no confessionals are No.)

Good luck and happy spoiling.

link to voting thread
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/7760.shtml

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