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Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 12-27-10, 09:04 PM (EST) "S22: No more Missyae?" The good news for S22 is that “Sourced Spoilers” may play a much smaller role in S22 than they have in recent seasons. It appears that the primary leak responsible for sourced spoilers to Missyae may have been plugged and that Missyae will not be a significant source of information for S22. Apparently false information was intentionally leaked to Missyae in order to isolate the leak and close it down. In addition, a law suit was filed and as a result Missyae has either been cut off from his source or has chosen to limit sourced spoilers, in light of the pending legal action. Regardless, Missyae’s previous source for spoilers has dried up and Missyae has been contaminated with false spoilers…as a result, he is no longer considered a reliable source of information. In light of these developments, Blackwhale, SurvivorsUnite, TDT, and others become more important again as we prepare to spoil S22. Facebook analysis, tweets, and traditional spoiling will play a much greater role, as detailed sourced spoilers may no longer be available and each week’s outcome may not be known in advance. ***WARNING: SOURCED SPOILERS…DON’T GO IF YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW!!! *** The S22 sourced spoilers were first discussed in Outfrontgirl’s thread here: http://community.realitytvworld.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/rtvw2/community/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=7520&forum=DCForumID2&omm=0 We now know that not all the “Sourced Spoilers” posted by Missyae were reliable; Missyae has told us that himself. Some of them however, probably were reliable until CBS decided to try and plug the leak. In addition, Blackwhale and SurvivorsUnite, known sources with inside information, have also provided “Sourced Spoilers” for S22. In the wake of Missyae’s fall from grace, their information becomes potentially more reliable. Here’s a summary of sourced spoilers for S22 posted before the leak was plugged. * Rob Mariano and Russell Hantz will be on S22. *They will have some kind of protection (immunity?) until the merge. *Russell will be voted out on September 5th (TC9 according to TDT’s calendar) This may mean he doesn’t make the jury, if there is a F3 and a 7 person jury. * Russell does not make it to the family visit. * Rob outlasts Russell (makes the jury?) *Neither Rob or Russell make it to the F3. Here are the source quotes from their threads at SSucks: Missyae: 7/19 Missyae Survivor 22: Russell Hantz vs Rob Mariano! Oh yes, its true, its damn true. More info coming later. 7/20 Missyae Neither player will leave early… 7/27 Missyae Not just joking, this is true. Gibson you asked if they were going to be players or \'coaches\' (\'mentors\') - Both! 8/10 Missyae Maybe they will be 'Mentors' until the merge and after the merge it will be Game Time and they become contestants who can be voted out at that point. Unless they have come up with something different in the past week. 8/10 Blackwhale Russell flew out of the George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston yesterday. I can personally confirm this. Like many of you, it was wishful thinking that had me hesitant to believe missyae about this season, although missy definitely has been spot on all along. But I have heard directly from an eyewitness who saw Russell Hantz at the Houston airport yesterday. What else would he be doing there? The timing fits exactly. It's happening folks, sorry to say. Bravo to missyae for scooping this information up almost 4 weeks ago. 8/22 Missyae I never waivered from the original spoiler of Russell vs Rob on 22. I never said I would spoil cast members before filming was finished. I did say they would more than likely be mentors. I said they would be immune until the merge. I did say at that point they become regular players. I also said some of that could change last minute by MB or JP. This is JP's baby, he wanted this. Now could Russell and Rob have talked Game at the recent activity at Sea World before departing? Why of course they could have. Would they be smart enough to work together or at least tell each other they will work together, maybe. So my original spoiler has remained emphatic and they are filming it right now as I said. So yes, it is really happening. My guess would be JFP might have spoken to Russell before he left. They do talk I think. There are plenty of pictures of them together online. But thats just an opinion, I dont know if JFP talked to Russell about it or not. Or maybe like someone else suggested, read it here. The line about Russell not playing anymore could also come from the rumor that 22 is the last season. If you hate spoilers so much I guess it won't bother to you wait and see, eh? Anyone still think this theme is not happening? One thing that might give some Russell Haters a little bit of hope, Melanie Hantz has been very active at Facebook. Maybe he didn't make the family visit challenge? Maybe they didn't have that challenge? Maybe someone else went? One thing we do know for sure, Russell and Rob went. Blackwhale: I am waiting to see if I can get some confirmation regarding the tribal council that occurred on Sunday, September 5. Remember, it's only day 30 today. If it works how it's worked before, 8 family members will get the call to get ready to go sometime circa tomorrow. Then about 2 days after that, 7 family members fly out, and the next day, 6 of them are present for the challenge. I did hear that Melanie Hantz won't be receiving the initial call based on developments that occurred in the game last week, but that is still in rumor phase at this point. I'll have better info after filming ends. I HEARD Melanie won't get the call. I didn't hear a word about Amber. What I said about Romber in missy's thread was purely speculative and as an encouragement not throw away any possibilities. I just brought up Melanie not getting called because missyae brought up the idea of the family visit. My understanding is that Melanie will not be called, based on the rumor that Russell was voted out on September 5. It's not solid, but I have reason to believe its true. I will give definitive confirmation after filming is over. Today is day 36 and there was never any noteable Facebook absence from Melanie Hantz. She was online playing Petville most of the day Friday, took a weekend getaway to Louisiana in which she left Saturday afternoon, continued posting updates via iPhone through the evening, dialoguing with her friend that she was going to visit in Louisiana, and was back last night to resume tending to Petville. Doesn't seem like she ever went to Nicaragua to me. I do still believe what I alluded to 9 days ago and elaborated on 6 days ago - September 5 was the last day of RH's reign in S22. Rob Mariano outlasts Russell Hantz. I hear that Russell needed an above average amount of therapy from Dr. Liza (Siegel). He was in disbelief that, as the best player ever, he would be voted out when he was. cheesefries wrote: ________________________________________ BW, can you confirm SU's spoiler that Rob and Russell are both voted out before the final 2/final 3? Yup. Good news for YemaGirl. I am hearing about another "fierce black girl." Personality is more along the lines of NaOnka and Yasmin and not so much the meaker black girls they had in the past. Hi all. I did not want to hijack missy's thread. I don't have much info to add to the mix, but I did hear something new. I understand that Rob and Russell each get to choose a person to "sponsor/mentor." Basically, they "bet" on this player. If the person Rob or Russell chooses ends up winning the game, they get a sizeable slice of money out of it. Yes, I know this sounds incredibly Big Brotherish, but it's what I'm told! The details are a little fuzzy to me, but I do believe that this is the general gist of it SurvivorsUnite: haha....No, neither Rob nor Russell are in the finals. Relax Sad, only way he can make it is by being handed protection until the merge. It's thought to be major BS by lots. Krautboy   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: S22: No more Missyae? vince3 12-27-10 1  RE: S22: No more Missyae? Flowerpower 12-28-10 2  RE: S22: No more Missyae? Outfrontgirl 12-28-10 3    RE: S22: No more Missyae? Krautboy 12-29-10 6        RE: S22: No more Missyae? Scarlett O Hara 01-07-11 36  RE: S22: No more Missyae? Outfrontgirl 12-29-10 4  RE: S22: No more Missyae? Chez 12-29-10 5    Missyae Lawsuit Krautboy 12-30-10 7        RE: Missyae Lawsuit dabo 12-30-10 8        RE: Missyae Lawsuit tribephyl 12-30-10 9            RE: Missyae Lawsuit Outfrontgirl 12-30-10 10            RE: Missyae Lawsuit Krautboy 12-31-10 12                RE: Missyae Lawsuit Outfrontgirl 12-31-10 13                    RE: Missyae Lawsuit PepeLePew13 12-31-10 14                        RE: Missyae Lawsuit BrassFan 01-05-11 23                            RE: Missyae Lawsuit Outfrontgirl 01-06-11 24                                RE: Missyae Lawsuit BrassFan 01-06-11 27                                    RE: Missyae Lawsuit Krautboy 01-06-11 28                                    RE: Missyae Lawsuit Snidget 01-06-11 29                                        RE: Missyae Lawsuit Outfrontgirl 01-06-11 30                                            RE: Missyae Lawsuit Krautboy 01-06-11 31                                                RE: Missyae Lawsuit Outfrontgirl 01-06-11 32                                                RE: Missyae Lawsuit vince3 01-06-11 33                                                    RE: Missyae Lawsuit Round Robin 01-07-11 34                                                RE: Missyae Lawsuit GOOU 01-07-11 35                                                    RE: Missyae Lawsuit Outfrontgirl 01-07-11 37                    RE: Missyae Lawsuit dabo 01-03-11 21                        RE: Missyae Lawsuit jules011 01-23-11 50                            RE: Missyae Lawsuit Educator 01-29-11 51                                RE: Missyae Lawsuit PepeLePew13 01-29-11 53                                RE: Missyae Lawsuit Krautboy 01-29-11 54        RE: Missyae Lawsuit Chez 12-31-10 11            TEMPEST IN A TEA POT - I TOLD YOU S... goldenmike4393 02-03-11 55                RE: TEMPEST IN A TEA POT - I TOLD Y... Estee 02-03-11 56                Not necessarily AyaK 02-03-11 57                    RE: Not necessarily goldenmike4393 02-03-11 58                        . Estee 02-03-11 60                    RE: Not necessarily Outfrontgirl 02-03-11 59                        RE: Not necessarily PepeLePew13 02-03-11 61                            RE: Not necessarily Round Robin 02-04-11 62                                RE: Not necessarily Estee 02-04-11 63  Blackwhale Spoiler Krautboy 01-02-11 15    RE: Blackwhale Spoiler Outfrontgirl 01-02-11 16        RE: Blackwhale Spoiler Krautboy 01-03-11 17            RE: Blackwhale Spoiler Outfrontgirl 01-03-11 18    RE: Blackwhale Spoiler Flowerpower 01-03-11 19  RE: S22: No more Missyae? Brownroach 01-03-11 20  Another Blackwhale Spoiler Krautboy 01-04-11 22  RE: S22: No more Missyae? Outfrontgirl 01-06-11 25    RE: S22: No more Missyae? dabo 01-06-11 26    RE: S22: No more Missyae? Educator 01-29-11 52  Latest Blackwhale spoilers Krautboy 01-12-11 38    RE: Latest Blackwhale spoilers Estee 01-12-11 39    RE: Latest Blackwhale spoilers Flowerpower 01-12-11 40  More from Blackwhale Krautboy 01-14-11 41    RE: More from Blackwhale Flowerpower 01-14-11 42  RE: S22: No more Missyae? Outfrontgirl 01-15-11 43    RE: S22: No more Missyae? Round Robin 01-15-11 44        RE: S22: No more Missyae? Outfrontgirl 01-15-11 45            RE: S22: No more Missyae? Round Robin 01-16-11 46                RE: S22: No more Missyae? Outfrontgirl 01-16-11 47                    RE: S22: No more Missyae? Round Robin 01-17-11 48  Blackwhale Sourced Spoilers Link Krautboy 01-17-11 49

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vince3 15726 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-27-10, 09:47 PM (EST) 1. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" Well, considering the news we saw on the frontpage shortly after the S21 Finale, if Amber does go for the family visit, she'll be about 6 months preggo...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Flowerpower 4968 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold" 12-28-10, 09:30 AM (EST) 2. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" Interesting. I'm certainly going to keep an open mind this season. The only thing I find quite disturbing is the mention of Personality is more along the lines of NaOnka... God help us!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-28-10, 11:26 PM (EST) 3. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" Excellent point about reorienting ... We don't know what missyae will post or not post. I do not believe that information dried up. How the lawsuit may affect posting remains to be seen. The "bad" info was fed to missyae after players returned from filming. Late September? Prior to filming leakage is probably quite accurate. I do not believe that blackwhale is reliable. I believe that he was only repackaging information he got from missyae. At a certain point, missyae caught on and shut down the pipeline, and blackwhale got very quiet. Also he was wrong about some key things in 21, like Kelly B making the merge. Lastly, I would not assume that SurvivorsUnite will not feel the heat from CBS.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 12-29-10, 11:55 PM (EST) 6. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" The spoilers with "sourced inside information"...Missyae, Blackwhale, SurviviorsUnite, etc...have all demonstrated they have contacts somewhere inside the Survivor/CBS organization. The level of detail, and reliability have varied from time to time, but they have all provided valid "sourced spoilers". Based on Missyae's comments about the content and the behind the scenes info, we can conclude that his source was probably a cameraman, who provided Missyae with unedited insights into the events that took place. Blackwhale and SU also provided accurate spoilers, with the exception of the Kelly B mistake, but overall still very accurate. Missyae, however, provided so much detailed information, that no one really paid any attention to Blackwhale or SU. Their spoilers were always overshadowed by Missyae. For S22, Missyae, Blackwhale and SU all provided spoilers up until about October 11, when false info was planted with Missyae to flush out the identity of her source. That appears to have worked and since then Missyae has moved to Twitter, where he is confirming the spoilers of others rather than providing the original spoiler. (Perhaps part of a cease and desist order?) Based on a post Missyae made mentioning his pending lawsuit, (DJB, Inc. vs. Doe in San Francisco Federal Court) it appears that a pretrial hearing is scheduled for January 28th at 1:30pm. The point being, that Missyae will probably keep a low profile even if he does have information from a secondary source. Blackwhale and SU may also be concerned about a potential lawsuit and therefore more careful about what, and how much they post. And if OFG and others don't consider them reliable, all the better! From my perspective, all this doubt and mistrust, is a good thing for those of us who would prefer to spoil the show without knowing exactly what will happen each week. We may be looking at a season where we will have to go back to confirming everything for ourselves. There will be sourced spoilers mixed in with planted misinformation. There will be unconfirmed rumors from posters craving their 15 minutes of fame and "uncle cameraman" will be alive and well again. I'm optimistic for S22... Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Scarlett O Hara 2971 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 01-07-11, 11:27 PM (EST) 36. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" Thanks for bringing this information to us KB! I'm still so thrilled that you are back. I am also excited about the possibility of us being able to go back to our own spoiling again. It is much more fun. With Rob-fadda back in the saddle for Season 22, you will be seeing a lot more of me around these boards! Looking forward to a fun season of spoiling!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-29-10, 09:31 PM (EST) 4. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYPua0bMjqk&feature=player_embedded   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Chez 669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 12-29-10, 10:50 PM (EST) 5. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" Hi to all- I had been avoiding source spoilers about S22 during the past season and just happened onto this thread tonight. I was very interested in learning that Missyae and his source seem to have been found out by CBS. Not really knowing the background, I read through OFG's thread, but I wondered if there is a news story link somewhere that confirms the whole thing and/or gives further details? Thanks for the information.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 12-30-10, 00:11 AM (EST) 7. "Missyae Lawsuit" Chez: Here's a post from Missyae talking about the lawsuit: Missyae wrote on 12/24: “OooO go look it up and then if you got HUGH enough balls, post its true. Look for DJB inc. (MB) in federal court in San Francisco. Then come back and say, damn, I was wrong again. The funniest thing I find is how much you kiss Survivor players asses to their faces on twitter and yet slam them over here. Maybe someone needs to clue them in with some postings. Now run along and research the lawsuit and then come back if you got balls enough to post how wrong you were. You are the SOLE reason I wont do spoilers here again. If you get banned, I will come back. Otherwise, its been real. “ Here's a link to a court calendar that appears to reference the case Missyae mentions: http://207.41.18.67/CEO/cfd.aspx?71BK 1/28 1:30pm: “3:10-cv-03590-JCS - DJB, Inc. v. Doe Case Mgmt Conference Further” Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

dabo 20247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-30-10, 01:12 AM (EST) 8. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" Well, gosh. I can understand missy is upset about all this, but that sort of nonsense ultimatum I'm not gonna post here because of you stuff is so childish.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

tribephyl 7624 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-30-10, 02:27 AM (EST) 9. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" A little closer look at the court date. A closer look at.........the 2 Case Documents So the defendant's from Arkansas, huh? Wasn't Arkansas also accused of vote tampering on American Idol?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-30-10, 10:04 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" missyae has made references about rooting for the Razorbacks ... I imagine the case will settle.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 12-31-10, 04:22 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" The case documents mention protecting the "confidentiallity of trade secret information", which we might assume is the "Sourced Spoilers" Missyae has been posting... Could Missyae be charged with stealing trade secrets? Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-31-10, 05:40 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" Not stealing trade secrets, rather publishing them -- making proprietary information known that the corporation has taken steps to protect. As I said in another topic, the film The Insider with Russell Crowe and Al Pacino focused upon this area of law. Big tobacco slapped CBS with a suit involving tortious interference and trade secrets when 60 minutes planned to run an interview with a tobacco chemist. It was an interesting film for this to my mind because it demonstrates how business law trumps freedom of the press, and also explains how it is moot whether or not the third party (CBS, missyae) has a confidentiality agreement or a contractual relationship with the business interest (RJ Reynolds, DJB/Survivor).   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 21243 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 12-31-10, 06:56 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" Makes sense. Otherwise we'd have chaos if anyone could, theoretically, decide to get a job in some place such as Coca Cola or KFC, accidentally (or not) stumble onto the company's secret recipe and then go and post it for the world to see.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

BrassFan 301 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-05-11, 10:03 AM (EST) 23. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" >Makes sense. Otherwise we'd have >chaos if anyone could, theoretically, >decide to get a job >in some place such as >Coca Cola or KFC, accidentally >(or not) stumble onto the >company's secret recipe and then >go and post it for >the world to see. Well...that would be one thing....but this is something different. It sounds like a closer analogy would be if you stumbled upon the secret recipe and told a friend...and *THEY* posted it for everyone to see. I really hope this actually goes to trial (even though I doubt it will), because it could be a landmark decision. If missyae were to lose this suit based on posting information from Survivor, does that mean someone who posts what happens on, say Dexter, before the show airs can be sued? It's the same thing, isn't it?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-06-11, 01:17 AM (EST) 24. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" I would be amazed if it went to trial. You have to keep in mind that provable damages are an essential element to both of these torts. It's rarely worth suing people if there's no money that's been lost. The trade secrets tort exists primarily to limit unfair competition by rival businesses, not to keep secrets from the public. With some TV shows, an unknown outcome may be a big part of what drives the ratings. That's true of Survivor. There are probably going to be fewer people who watch if the boot list is out before it premieres, but OTOH the show has enough diehard fans that watch to see the spoilers materialize. But how do you quantify how many ratings were lost because a boot was known? It's tough. Now in the case of players, and crew, they are under contract, and their contracts can be written to spell out the damages in case of a breach. (Also called liquidated damages.) So I would think that the person DBJ wants to sue is the person under contract, and not someone who posts spoilers. To get to the unknown person under contract, they sue the spoiler, which allows them to conduct discovery, which gives them access to emails and other communications that identify the leak. The spoiler is not the ultimate object of the litigation, but a means to identifying leaks.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

BrassFan 301 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 01-06-11, 03:57 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" >I would be amazed if it >went to trial. I know..it's just wishful thinking to get an actual ruling on whether or not that's something that you can actually win a suit for. >With some TV shows, an unknown >outcome may be a big >part of what drives the >ratings. That's true of >Survivor. There are probably >going to be fewer people >who watch if the boot >list is out before it >premieres, but OTOH the show >has enough diehard fans that >watch to see the spoilers >materialize. I know...I'm just not happy with Survivor suing someone who they don't apparently have a contract or NDA with for releasing info. >So I would think that the >person DBJ wants to sue >is the person under contract, >and not someone who posts >spoilers. To get to >the unknown person under contract, >they sue the spoiler, which >allows them to conduct discovery, >which gives them access to >emails and other communications that >identify the leak. But, if they were able to identify missyae, I wonder how they were able to do that without tracking how the info got there. I assumed that the Kimbo Slice thing was a bit thrown out to track down who the leak was...so, I'd think they knew who had that info, and could go from there.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 01-06-11, 04:27 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" >But, if they were able to >identify missyae, I wonder how >they were able to do >that without tracking how the >info got there. I >assumed that the Kimbo Slice >thing was a bit thrown >out to track down who >the leak was...so, I'd think >they knew who had that >info, and could go from >there. Good point Brassfan! Missyae's source had direct knowledge of the events, before they went to editing, so they would have to be someone in the field witnessing the events as they were being filmed...someone like a cameraman, medic, contestant, etc. And if they were out there they would have to know that Kimbo wasn't there. So, for some reason, Missyae's source knowingly provided bad info to flush out and discredit Missyae... Or was the bad info planted by who posed as Missyae's source after they got caught? The leak must have been identified/plugged, before the bad info was planted, otherwise it doesn't make sense....how much info Missyae got out before the leak was plugged has yet to be seen, or perhaps not, depending on the impact of the lawsuit. Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Snidget 35571 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-06-11, 04:31 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" I suspect it is easier to prove who a poster is (as once they have some kind of legal action they could probably make one of the sites he has posted on cough up tracking information that would lead to an identity with a court order) then make them say who said what to them under oath than go with we ran a scam on some employees to find out who leaked info. Alternatively, they also may not have been able to do a tell a bunch of employees different stories to see which one shows up on the web. Probably is easier to tell one whopper that a number of employees would know about then after any of it shows up on the web do the court order to get to who posted it then again make them cough up under oath how they got information no employee was supposed to tell.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-06-11, 07:06 PM (EST) 30. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" LAST EDITED ON 01-06-11 AT 07:07 PM (EST) Snidget is right as usual. What they do to find the identity of an internet poster is they file a John Doe lawsuit, which results in a court order to get information from the poster's IP provider(s). Once they have the real identity, they substitute the plaintiff's real name for John Doe. At that point, they can begin to conduct regular discovery, such as requests for document production and scheduling a deposition. Read: http://www.chillingeffects.org/johndoe/ http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/gmsafela.htm If you follow all of what missyae posts and tweets as it comes out (good luck catching up if you didn't start following last August), there are enough references on the bad info from 22 that it's obvious he is saying it's Russell, aka "little troll." I don't think that the false info was planted to track down a source, but rather to discredit missyae's ability to get accurate spoilers on 22. CBS has planted false spoilers before. The "Darrah wins" spoiler for PI, I don't know for sure, but I think that was CBS trying to mess with Chill One. If you read the spoilers and think about who knew this or whose point of view this is, the sources are pretty obvious. I'm not going to post names here and do CBS's work for them, but a close reader can see that it's not cameramen or editors or other crew who spoiled S19-21. Whether crew members or other employees spoiled earlier seasons is another question.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 01-06-11, 08:01 PM (EST) 31. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" >If you follow all of what >missyae posts and tweets as >it comes out (good luck >catching up if you didn't >start following last August), there >are enough references on the >bad info from 22 that >it's obvious he is saying >it's Russell, aka "little troll." > I don't think that >the false info was planted >to track down a source, >but rather to discredit missyae's >ability to get accurate spoilers >on 22. > >If you read the spoilers and >think about who knew this >or whose point of view >this is, the sources are >pretty obvious. I'm not >going to post names here >and do CBS's work for >them, but a close reader >can see that it's not >cameramen or editors or other >crew who spoiled S19-21. If Missyae is blaming Russell for the false info, then he may very well be the source as well... There has been lots of speculation over the last few season about Missyae's true identity. Many speculated that Missyae was really Russell or Melanie Hantz posting here and then later at sucks, but apparently Russell or Melanie Hantz may have simply been his source?!? Maybe more will come out in court? Will any of that information be available as public record? Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-06-11, 08:41 PM (EST) 32. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" LAST EDITED ON 01-06-11 AT 08:47 PM (EST) missyae is not Russell, not Melanie, and not related to them. Missyae has been posting on the Survivor scene for years, going back at least as far as Vanuatu and maybe before. The Game, Cerebral Game Player, Ross Barnett were earlier nicks. Missyae was his wife's account, her name and initials, just as he explained it when he/she original posted at Blows. From what he told me at the time, she was going to do the posting, but it became too much for her dealing with all the abuse at Sucks. Another thing that is no secret at Sucks is missyae is a big Razorbacks fan. As to public record, if it is settled -- no, it won't be, not the details.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vince3 15726 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-06-11, 08:41 PM (EST) 33. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" Plus, since Shannon of last season was from the Hantz tree (which included Boo) of casting...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Round Robin 1017 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 01-07-11, 02:48 AM (EST) 34. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" That line of casting originally dates all the way back to Clay of S5, does it not?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

GOOU 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 01-07-11, 12:31 PM (EST) 35. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" Missyae's name is definitely public record in the lawsuit - originally the defendant was a John Doe (I think - haven't looked at the case for about a week) but his real name has been substituted as the defendant - and it is not Russell or his wife. I believe the amended complaint also states that he is a resident of Arkansas -   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-07-11, 11:33 PM (EST) 37. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" missyae is using his real name on Facebook now, no more anonymity. The Survivor Whispers group by Shannon and Jim has had all sorts of past Survivors participating already. Jane, Holly, Jill, Marty, Na Onka,Todd, Denise, Leslie (China), Earl (Fiji), Crystal, Kenny, Gillian, Bog Dawgsta, JFP, Mitchell (S2), Erik Reichenbach, Kathy Sleckman, Travis, Tracy H-W, contestants,seem to be coming out of woodwork, even photographer Monty Brinton. Just talking to fans, no spoilers.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

dabo 20247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-03-11, 01:43 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" Maybe we should have a separate thread on Trade Secrets? One of the question I would most like the answer to is what constitutes a trade secret for a television production company? Just because they want to keep certain things secret for awhile that shouldn't be what determines what are legally regarded as trade secrets in court. One would think that a trade secret would be something they would want kept secret as long as they are producing television shows of this nature, something that might be a valuable asset even after they might cease production on all television shows, something they could sell to another telelvision production company. But they can't be allowed a blanket of trade secrecy to cover violations of FCC regulations or other lawbreaking.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

jules011 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-23-11, 07:17 PM (EST) 50. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" I don't see how this would fall under "trade secrets" - it's simply a case of journalism sourcing. CBS wants the source outed and missyae has that info. The main goal obviously is for CBS to stop the leaks to missyae. By filing suit, it shows all future employees that they take it seriously. Categorizing spoilers on a website as trade secrets on par with big tobacco or big pharma is way off base. While missyae may not be a "journalist" per se, it falls into that category and he most likely wouldn't have to reveal his source, although journalists have gone to jail for it.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Educator 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-29-11, 01:26 AM (EST) 51. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" You have all been taken for a ride. THERE IS NO LAWSUIT. THERE NEVER WAS.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 21243 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-29-11, 10:42 AM (EST) 53. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" You've been alerted on that other thread ... but in the meantime, if you want us to take you seriously, you've got to offer up some sources or proof before you can just throw statements like that out there. So, either offer up some proof and sources or hold your tongue fingers forever.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 01-29-11, 02:17 PM (EST) 54. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" Educator: We have seen evidence of the lawsuit, which has since been dropped...so unless you explain yourself, your post will not be taken seriously. Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Chez 669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 12-31-10, 01:29 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Missyae Lawsuit" Krautboy- Thank you for the info. I looked through the files that were posted up for the lawsuit. Not knowing who DJB Inc. was (maybe this is common knowledge to others on this board), I googled it and came up with this. http://california.14thstory.com/djb-inc.html which in fact confirms Mark Burnett.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

goldenmike4393 298 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 02-03-11, 01:56 PM (EST) 55. "TEMPEST IN A TEA POT - I TOLD YOU SO" LAST EDITED ON 02-03-11 AT 01:58 PM (EST) I explained this a year or so ago... but you wouldn't listen.. http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/ Lawyer says Survivor contract’s $5 million in damages clause may be “invalid” February 3, 2011, 9:55 AM Like other reality TV show participant contracts, the Survivor cast member contract includes a clause that disclosing information about the show in advance will result in “liquidated damages” of $5 million per incident, which is not, as the contract says, a “penalty.” On Concurring Opinions, George Washington University professor of law Lawrence A. Cunningham (I am in good company) analyzes the contract, and concludes that the $5 million in damages may not be enforceable, and CBS would have to prove its actual damages in each incident because of how different each kind of breach is. He writes that the contract’s “linguistic maneuvers are all intended to promote the clause’s validity under ancient contract law doctrine. This enforces party attempts to set damages at compensatory levels when it is hard to determine them but denies effect to those designed to coerce, penalize or prod parties to contracts. The trouble with the CBS clause, however, is that it is very long on such verbal protestations and short of any actual attempt at estimation.” That means it may be unenforceable. Cunningham writes, “In the piquant phrase from a famous contracts case by Judge Richard Posner, CBS’s stipulated damages are ‘invariant to the gravity of the breach.’ There is a very good chance that this clause would be invalid in respectable US courts properly applying basic contract law principles. CBS would then have to prove its actual damages the usual way. That requires showing what they are with reasonable certainty, showing that they were foreseeable, and showing that it could not with reasonable effort have mitigated them. It would be interesting to see how far the company got in such a case and what the contestants would do afterwards. Maybe go berserk.”   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 44384 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-03-11, 02:23 PM (EST) 56. "RE: TEMPEST IN A TEA POT - I TOLD YOU SO"   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 8129 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-03-11, 04:23 PM (EST) 57. "Not necessarily" Although Richard Posner wrote a famous opinion in which he argued that a liquidated damages clause for a breach that produced little actual injury could not be enforced because it represented penalty damages, the fact is that, despite Mr. Cunningham's huffing and puffing, this case seems like a much better case for liquidated damages than the one that produced the Posner opinion. Here, it is simply impossible to know the extent of the damages produced by the breach of contract. Is there any way to estimate what viewership would have been without the breach? In Posner's case, actual damages were determinable. Mr. Cunningham has learned what I like to refer to as "the lesson of Kohoutek." When comet Kohoutek approached Earth in 1973, about half the scientists said that it was a nice comet that was unlikely to make much of a display. The other half said that it was going to be a spectacular Christmas comet, recalling the time of Jesus' birth. Guess which group of scientists got all the press, even though they had no idea what they were talking about? Mr. Cunningham is right that it isn't a slam dunk that the liquidated damages clause is enforceable. After that, he's spouting nonsense.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

goldenmike4393 298 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star" 02-03-11, 05:14 PM (EST) 58. "RE: Not necessarily" ROFLMAO   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 44384 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-03-11, 07:25 PM (EST) 60. "." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or8UhztOSH4   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-03-11, 07:15 PM (EST) 59. "RE: Not necessarily" Interesting debate -- thanks to both of you. It seems to me that more and more contestants are playing their first season in hopes of making enough of an impact to get cast in the next variation of All Stars. The withholding of future opportunity seems to me a big shillelagh in CBS's hands, as long as the current trend of bringing back Reality "stars" continues -- one that does not require any kind of lawsuit or proved damages. Amazes me though that the threat of five million dollars penalty isn't more of a deterrent. I'm thinking it's because CBS has never actually gone after anyone up to now.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 21243 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-03-11, 07:40 PM (EST) 61. "RE: Not necessarily" They did go after Stacey Stillman in a countersuit after she initially sued 'Survivor'. Settled out of court (anyone know what 'damages' were paid either way?) but it shows that CBS won't back down if needed, and it may have kept contestants mostly on their toes over the past 10 years.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Round Robin 1017 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 02-04-11, 04:47 AM (EST) 62. "RE: Not necessarily" I'm surprised they had so many lawyers as contestants after Stacey sued them. I'd have been pretty lawyer-phobic after that if I were in their place.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 44384 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-04-11, 09:24 AM (EST) 63. "RE: Not necessarily" One of whom tried to dig a hole in the surface of a lake.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 01-02-11, 07:05 PM (EST) 15. "Blackwhale Spoiler" Blackwhale is still holding to his spoiler about Russell's departure date: blackwhale wrote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Players with enormous egos play up the physical stuff that comes as a result of going deep on Survivor. Russell came home from 20 having not touched his facial hair since before 19 started filming. He then immediately started posing for pictures to post all over Myspace and Facebook so everyone would be sure to know he made it far. Coach came back from 18 with a cane, and came back from 20 where he was 12th place with untouched facial hair to try to feel better about himself and make people think he went farther than he did. I do still believe the September 5 thing holds true, and I do know Rob is still in the game on September 6. That's Redemption Island not withstanding. Russell loves to boast when he comes home from shooting a Survivor season and he could have very well exaggerated 20 lbs or continued to lose it on purpose after he was done with the game. Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-02-11, 07:29 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Blackwhale Spoiler" I was saying above that blackwhale didn't have anything new after that point of September, at least I haven't seen anything. There's no indication that he has any more to give us. That's what I meant about not looking to him in the future.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 01-03-11, 01:55 AM (EST) 17. "RE: Blackwhale Spoiler" Maybe Blackwhale and Missyae had the same source, and now the leak has been plugged? Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-03-11, 02:59 AM (EST) 18. "RE: Blackwhale Spoiler" I'm not convinced that all leaks have been plugged. One link may get plugged, while another two emerge, and plugged leaks may find new holes. I don't think the leak was a cameraman, but I do think that SEG should take care not to hire any cameraman who refers to himself as Uncle. Or Aunty either.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Flowerpower 4968 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold" 01-03-11, 07:34 AM (EST) 19. "RE: Blackwhale Spoiler" While I am not confirming or refuting the Blackwhale spoiler, I can tell you from the call sheets that September 5 was day 21. If there are 3 day cycles between TC's, than Sept 5 would be the day after TC, which it appears are the days that they film the duels on RI.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Brownroach 12742 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-03-11, 12:04 PM (EST) 20. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" LAST EDITED ON 01-03-11 AT 12:29 PM (EST) I hear that Russell...was in disbelief that, as the best player ever, he would be voted out when he was. Well, I'm willing to believe Blackwhale is correct about this item at least. ETA -- by which I mean: that Russell didn't win (again), and that Russell couldn't believe he didn't win (again).   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 01-04-11, 06:02 PM (EST) 22. "Another Blackwhale Spoiler" Another Blackwhale spoiler...reliability still to be determined. Blackwhale wrote: "Ashley alligns with Rob and then outlasts him. The second coming of Natalie White, Krista, also alligns with Russell from my understanding." Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-06-11, 01:24 AM (EST) 25. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" missyae still has spoilers, and is tweeting hints. The new Survivor Whispers Facebook by missyae and Shannon is supposedly going to have post-show discussion that MAY include spoilers. Right now there are former players showing up and answering questions, like tonight there was Jane, Jill, Na Onka, Holly's husband, and not sure who else. From what I can tell from recent tweets, missyae is on strike from Sucks because he is mad at Oowatanite posting derogatory stuff (I post as the observer, not the judge), and he says he won't be back there until and if Oo is banned. He may move to posting at Skills. That's the picture I'm getting at the moment.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

dabo 20247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-06-11, 03:15 AM (EST) 26. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" Well, far as I am concerned missy is still a welcome poster here, but posturing to get someone banned is pretty lame.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Educator 4 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 01-29-11, 01:28 AM (EST) 52. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" Sucks has made it very CLEAR that Oowatanite is not going to be banned.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 01-12-11, 00:13 AM (EST) 38. "Latest Blackwhale spoilers" Posted by Blackwhale over at SSucks: "Krista Klumpp is a pretty smart girl. She may voice disdain for Russell in her Dalton Ross interview but she grasps the concept that Russell's a free vote. He'll play recklessly since he doesn't have to worry about reprecussions for a while. So might as well get on his side." Survivor Spoilers blackwhale 01/10/11 08:33 PM "Stephanie Valencia = Marisa Calihan? That may be so. Not quite sure if its Ometepe or Zapatera that goes to tribal council first, but when Zapatera goes, look for Stephanie to go quick. She and Russell clash." Survivor Spoilers blackwhale 01/10/11 08:03 PM "I hear Francesca is premerge" Survivor Spoilers blackwhale 01/10/11 07:54 PM Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 44384 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-12-11, 09:52 AM (EST) 39. "RE: Latest Blackwhale spoilers" Since when has RussHell ever had any grasp on the concept of 'repercussions'? He's spent his entire reality career playing as if he'd not only stolen the truth's boots, but cut off its feet. S20 proved he was incapable of change: all this does is underline it. With or without protection, he'll play the same way. All this alters is what he chooses to boast about in confessional.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Flowerpower 4968 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold" 01-12-11, 03:33 PM (EST) 40. "RE: Latest Blackwhale spoilers" So far I think Blackwhale is being quite vague. After the release of the cast videos on to the CBS site, I think all of us could have come to similar conclusions.... 1. Krista seems a bright, socially adept, ambitious young lady. 2. Stephanie seems like she could be quite abrasive. By her own account she's insensitive, likes to be in control, she's right, even when she's wrong and she always gets her way....she'll butt heads with RussHell, surely! 3. Francesca - a mean girl? Not hard to speculate she may be out pre-merge.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 01-14-11, 04:37 PM (EST) 41. "More from Blackwhale" More spoilers from Blackwhale: "Ralph "Rooster" Kiser will be one of the few brave enough to stand up to Russell Hantz. They get into an argument at a tribal council, culminating in a shutout vote of Rooster's early dismissal from the game. To no one's surprise, Kristina Kell won't be too long for the game. Francesca should be in the later half of the premerge and Stephanie in the first half. Seems like a lot of people here don't like David too much, but sorry to say he does fairly well for himself. I hear he is linked in with the Krista/Russell alliance. He's a pretty good player. I think Krista's the only one who doesn't turn against Russell though. Just like Ashley outlasts her ally Rob, I am pretty sure Krista does better than Russell." I like Blackwhale's posting style; more vague and general spoiler clues that leave some room for interpretation. I hope he keeps it up... Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Flowerpower 4968 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold" 01-14-11, 06:59 PM (EST) 42. "RE: More from Blackwhale" I don't know, I just have alot of doubt regarding these tips. Another thing that I'm loving is that there is no mention of RI. Just because someone is out, doesn't necessarily mean they are out and gone...so, outlasting refers to not being voted out, I'm assuming, but not necessarily out of the game a la RI....someone has to come back in. Blackwhale also uses "pretty sure"...which leaves alot of room for error, imo. So far early pre-merge boots: RussHells: Stephanie, Rooster; Rob's: Kristine Late pre-merge: Rob's team - Francesca Most likely to make the merge: RussHell's: David, Krista Klump, RussHell? Rob's: Rob and Ashley I hope what he notes about David is true, as he seems intriguing to me...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-15-11, 00:11 AM (EST) 43. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" TheGameSurvivor Missyae @ @nsideguy25 Suit dropped today!!! ---------- If dropped is accurate, sounds like a dismissal rather than settlement.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Round Robin 1017 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 01-15-11, 03:46 AM (EST) 44. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" On another thread here it was revealed to have been dismissed without prejudice, meaning it can be refiled later if need be. Spec is that missyae ratted out his sources and they let him off the hook for doing so.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-15-11, 10:09 PM (EST) 45. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" LAST EDITED ON 01-15-11 AT 11:30 PM (EST) i'm not comfortable with describing missyae as a "rat" based on spec. Without knowing what went on, our spec borders on character defamation. There's a person there behind the name. I have reason to believe that is not a fair description of what occurred. It's more complicated than that. PS. I'm not trying to be contentious and not rebuking anyone. Just something I needed to say. As his name is out there and he's doing videos with Shannon, maybe we should call him Jim, remember he's a Survivor fan like us, and try not to dissect his business without any real information. If I were being sued, or had been sued, I know I'd appreciate some restraint. Talking about the legal principles behind the suit is interesting to me. Talking about the facts we know, fair enough.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Round Robin 1017 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 01-16-11, 01:43 AM (EST) 46. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" I think it's a pretty reasonable assumption that DBJ would not have dropped the suit that easily if they had not gotten what they wanted, and the only thing Jim could have given them would have been the identities of his sources. "Ratting his sources out" might be a strongly stated description for what I think he did, but you will never get me to believe anything other than that he revealed who they were, and that he would not have done so without being sued. Now that the courts will apparently not be passing any kind of judgement on this case, the court of public opinion can form whatever opinions it will on the things Jim and his sources did as well as on CBS/SEG's tactics in pursuing Jim's sources. You can and probably have inferred my opinion of Jim, but I actually have a far lower opinion of CBS/SEG and Mark Burnett than I do of Jim. Basically I think CBS/SEG forced Jim and his sources to throw each other under the bus, based on what I've read here and at Sucks, and all of them what're in charge at CBS and SEG ought to be ashamed of themselves, because that was IMO a very underhanded and unethical way to go about plugging the leaks.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 5470 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 01-16-11, 07:10 PM (EST) 47. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" I actually do know exactly what happened, but am not at liberty to discuss what isn't out in public. >>> you will never get me to believe anything other than that he revealed who they were, and that he would not have done so without being sued. This is not correct, that he revealed all his sources, although the latter part that he wouldn't have done or said anything without a suit is right enough. If it matters to people (which it may not), you can know that when I say something here yay or nay, it is accurate.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Round Robin 1017 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 01-17-11, 02:12 AM (EST) 48. "RE: S22: No more Missyae?" Well, to put it in plain layman's English without discussing the details, the guys with the most money and power used it to throw their weight around till they got what they wanted. That's it in a nutshell. I don't want Survivor to go down the tubes, but Mark Burnett and Les Moonves both deserve to pick crap with the chickens like the rest of us. Surely Jim's postings didn't cost them enough ratings points to justify suing or firing anybody. If that's what those 2 idiots think, they've both lost their marbles.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Krautboy 2431 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model" 01-17-11, 08:46 PM (EST) 49. "Blackwhale Sourced Spoilers Link" Antithesys (SSucks) has set up a thread specifically for Blackwhale sourced spoilers. The thread is exclusively for Blackwhale and will serve as a clean, concise collection point for his spoilers. Those interested in reading them can go here: http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/78624/Blackwhale-22-Leagues-Under-the-Sea There is really no reason to transcribe the posts because they will be posted there free of clutter and commentary. Blackwhale has provided quite a bit of information, without any specific boot order. I hope he continues to provide informations in a general way, leaving holes and questions for us to answer for ourselves. Krautboy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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