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"State of the Spoiling - Episode 12"
LAST EDITED ON 12-10-08 AT 09:01 PM (EST)

Welcome friends to another SOTS at Reality TV World where we collectively try and spoil EPMB’s Survivor series, one episode at a time! Please feel free to join in on the never-ending quest with your insights, observations, and speculation. It’s our collective opinions, right or wrong, that we like to put to the test each week. Please take the time to stop by and read our guidelines. They keep this site running smoothly and make it a great place to hang out!

The title and clues for this week’s episode were brought to us by Master B:

“The Good Guys Should Win in the End”

We start off with a teaser from Jiffy’s blog …

Next week on...Survivor. A new agreement could completely change the game....if only you could trust these people to keep their word.



We know from the Vidcaps that Kenny will muscle Bob into making him an offer he can’t refuse. If Bob wins immunity, he’ll give the necklace to Kenny at Tribal Council, at least that's their agreement.

But, wait a minute!!



Can Bob be trusted to keep his word? Time will tell.

THE CLUES

One castaway finds himself scrambling to secure an alliance, having attempted unsuccessfully to blindside one of his allies.

We have already seen above that this is Kenny. He will indeed be scrambling like the rat he is as he betrayed his alliance partner Matty at the last Tribal Council and needs to quickly secure his future in the game. Bob, the last Onion standing, will also be looking for alliances to stay in the game and he is most likely to seek this alliance with Crystal and Kenny. Therefore, he and Kenny will make some kind of agreement like ...

Bob: "I'll give you my Immunity Necklace."
Kenny: "I will protect you from the vote." "You justa make-a me an offer I can't refuse!!!"


A stunning reward allows some castaways a rare glimpse of Gabon and it's most majestic inhabitants

Looks like the lucky winner of the Reward Challenge will get to invite a few guests to an African jaunt to visit the native elephants!! Wonder who it will be ...

A power hungry castaway uses guilt to gain to control of an ally, but his pushy demands may land him in hot water.

Again, this clue is about Kenny strong-arming Bob into promising to give him his Immunity Necklace should he win the IC.


REWARD CHALLENGE

The Reward challenge is a multi-leg race over hurdles and such with the final leg being the basketball toss. Thanks to SurvivorPhoenix for making this RC compilation:

Here, Jiffy yells “Go!”

…and they’re off! First, the DAWs have to run over or under a wooden grid…


Here’s Kenny running through colored tubes …


Does Bob stumble, or is he trying to pick up something?


Sugar retrieves a purple ball …


and Susie shoots yellow …



Who wins the basketball challenge, you ask?

Why Bob, the Physics Teacher will win AND he will take both Kenny and Crystal on the trip with him as these are his prospective alliance partners.

Survivor Phoenix presents the "Clan of the clean clothes":


This proves without a shadow of a doubt that Bob, Crystal and Kenny all have dirty clothes before the RC and then clean clothes after their Reward trip.


CBS also throws in this vidcap this week:

Could the RC also be the challenge to reveal the alliances? Well, the challenge itself won't shatter any alliances, but when Bob picks Crystal and Kenny to go on the Reward trip with him perhaps the alliance between Kenny and Sugar will shatter and certainly the "F-5" Alliance of Kenny ~ Crystal ~ Sugar ~ Matty ~ Susie will most definitely be shattered.


IMMUNITY CHALLENGE

There are several vidcaps that tell us that the Immunity Challenge will take place over several legs. First, the DAWs will have to crawl through and under a roped gridded area. Next, they will have to solve a puzzle. Oh, and did I tell you that they have to do all of these things while blindfolded? What will they think of next?!

Here's Matty in a yellow blindfold searching for his entrance to the roped grid.

In these vidcaps brought to us by SurvivorPhoenix, we see from left to right: Susie (Orange), Crystal (Black), Sugar (Green), Bob (Purple), Matty (Yellow) and Kenny (Blue) is still on the Ropes course. They are all working furiously on solving their mask puzzles.


If you look closely, you can see Kenny bringing up the rear…


Who wins you ask? Well, if Bob is to give his Immunity Necklace to Kenny at Tribal Council as was promised earlier in this thread, than I can safely say that I do believe Bob will indeed win this challenge.


Bob wins the Immunity Challenge!

Who will be voted out tonight? It's anybody's guess. If Bob has Immunity, it won't be him. But wait, what if he gives it to Kenny? If Kenny doesn't get that necklace, it could be him. However, who do you think our new alliance of three (Kenny ~ Crystal ~ Bob) will target? I think they'll target Matty.

But wait, here's another clue ...

A simple plan is hatched to put the hidden immunity idol into play, resulting in a shocking turn of events at Tribal Council.

This is Sugar and Matty scheming to save Matty’s neck!

Sugar (in confessional): Crystal and Kenny can take out whoever they want. Kenny acts like he's this weak little meager guy and he spins all these lies and Crystal is just a big bully.



Sugar (talking to Matty): You're not gonna go.

Matty: Nobody to rely on, nobody to trust.

I have a feeling Matty, that YES! You can trust Sugar tonight at TC!! These two will devise a simple plan which will have surprising consequences at Tribal Council. Something tells me that it involves Sugar wearing her Hidden Immunity Idol to Tribal Council. As Slyvester tells us, "Letting everyone think you're playing the idol yourself, and then handing if off after the votes is a very simple plan, and should be a very effective one."

These vidcaps show our heroes marching off to Tribal Council. Note three things. First, Sugar is wearing her Hidden Immunity Idol around her neck. Second, Kenny is modeling his newly-acquired wardrobe from his Reward trip with Bob and Crystal. Third, we can clearly see that none of Sugar, Susie, Kenny, Matty or Crystal have the Immunity Necklace around their neck. That must mean that Bob indeed has won Immunity!


Georjanna was kind enough to post this vidcap providing us with the Rules of Use for the Hidden Immunity Idol...(although they are from last year, they should be somewhat the same ... Thanks, Michel! )

They tell us that Jeff will always ask if you want to give the HII away after the votes have been cast but before the votes have been read. They also tell us that the last time the HII can be used is when there are 5 remaining players left in the game, which technically, would be next week. But why would they need to use it next week when there are five players left -- they will have a three/two split and the majority will win. Therefore, it is best played this week when there are six left in the game.


What will happen at Tribal Council with two Immunity Necklaces making an appearance there? It's anybody's guess. I do think that Kenny, Crystal and Bob will target Matty and Sugar will indeed give him her Not-so-Hidden Immunity Idol. I don't know how it will play out, but I'm predicting a surprising boot this week of Crystal! Crystal is our boot this week. Kenny is all over the vidcaps and I think that is misdirection. This week, it's Crystal ...

Voted Out at Tribal Council:

Olympic Gold Medalist Crystal Cox


Reward Challenge: Bob
Immunity Challenge: Bob

One last thing I thought I'd mention is the now-infamous "F-5" Footage. In these vidcaps from Survivor Phoenix we see our F-5 walking into the Immunity Challenge Course.


You can see this in motion by following this link to Utube from Master B:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cEQ4uVkcZI

Some are speculating that these are NOT our DAWs, but rather Dream-teamers. The last one in line which I think is clearly Bob (check out the gray hair), but others have said "How could Bob be wearing a red speedo?" Georjanna was kind enough to bring this pic over from Sucks:

Dreamteamer in Red speedo?

Even though this could indeed be this gentleman in the F-5 walk, I am firmly in the camp that these are the real peeps and I have identified them as (right to left): Susie, Matty, Kenny, Sugar and Bob. Time will tell if I am right or wrong.

Finally, there has been some discussion as to whether or not it is an F-2 or F-3 this season. Georjanna brings us this video of Corrine being interviewed where she tells us there is a jury of seven and that most likely her alliance best friends (Marcus/Charlie/Randy) would determine who the winner would be and the last three jurors' votes wouldn’t count as they would be in the minority. Whatever the case, this seems to support the “Final 3” Tribal Council scenario.

Don’t forget to cast your Vote in Dabo’s Vote Thread.

Also, check out Veruca Salt's "The Players, the Game, the Editing" Thread.

ETA: Thanks Michel for your helpful comments


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 RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... michel 12-10-08 1
   RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... Scarlett O Hara 12-10-08 3
       RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... Georjanna 12-10-08 9
 RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... emydi 12-10-08 2
 RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... Flowerpower 12-10-08 4
 RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... CTgirl 12-10-08 5
 RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... suzzee 12-10-08 6
   RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... NedraSue 12-10-08 7
 RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... kingfish 12-10-08 8
 RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... Corvis 12-11-08 10
   RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... Scarlett O Hara 12-11-08 13
 RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... samboohoo 12-11-08 11
 RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... redbeard103152 12-11-08 12
   RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... chaoswva 12-11-08 14
       RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... chaoswva 12-11-08 15
           RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... Scarlett O Hara 12-11-08 17
           RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... Flowerpower 12-11-08 21
       RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... Flowerpower 12-11-08 16
       RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... DrinkThirty 12-11-08 18
           RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... PinkGirlygirl 12-11-08 19
               RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... DrinkThirty 12-11-08 22
       RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... sylvester 12-11-08 23
       RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode... chaoswva 12-11-08 24
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1. "RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 12"
Excellent SOTS Scarlett. We can always count on you to bring us up to date.

There are a couple of corrections to make however:

- In the clean clothes segment you wrote Corinne instead of Crystal.

- In the voting scenario, if Bob does give his immunity necklace to Kenny then there wouldn't be any votes cast for Kenny because Jeff would say: "Kenny is now safe, everybody else is fair game."

I think you should also point out that Georgianna's vidcap about the rules was for last season, not this one. We aren't sure the rules are exactly the same.

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Thanks for your help, Michel ... and as long as we're correcting, I do believe that our lovely Miss "Georgianna" does in fact, spell her name Georjanna. * smooch *

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Hi!

When I was a child and everyone else had names like Mary and Betty and Karen, my mother promised me that someday I'd thank her for my 'interesting' one ...

You and Michel are (as is usually the case) both right:

When I replaced my computer several months ago, I managed to lock myself out of the forum and, long story short, Mother's Georgianna became Georjanna. But, she doesn't visit here, so I think I'm safe from appearing to be an ungrateful daughter.

And this is (as is always the case) a great SOTS. Even though I think that Susie's chances are better with her in the Game than on the Jury, I do hope you're right about Crystal. The Olympian's determined 'ethnicity' annoys the mutt in me as much as Ace's (and Gillian's) did.

But, at this stage of the Game (and the current state of my list), I'll take anyone as the boot pick. Other than Susie.

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great sots scar! and michel you're too quick.

And my DVR along with Corvis description for the finale states that the final TC has 3 vying for 2 to face the jury

Also, I've been thinking about Susie and her vote, esp. after what was said in Insider. What if CBK "convince" Susie to vote for Matty and Susie tells Sugar and Matty and they come up with the HI switch. I think Susie is sticking with Matty. If SSM were smart they'd have Susie still vote for Matty to make the two remaining of CBK that she is with them at F5. Susie then actually becomes the swing vote at 5 and not Sugar and moves her along to F3, as she wants.

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Great job, as always, Scarlett. You and I are seeing eye to eye. This will be another fun episode!


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Great job on the SOTS Scar! Thanks for all your work on and in organizing the SOTS this season.

If Bob gives up his necklace, Crystal goes home, if not, Kenny goes home. Either way, "The Good Guys Should Win in the End." Yay!


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Scarlet = Great SOTS

You are convincing me of a Crystal boot but I want Kenny out so bad that I'm hoping wishing can make it so.


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Great SOTS...I really wished I could do it...I just don't have it...I'm sorry.

I think with all this said...Sugar wears her idol and it all scars Bob to the point that he doesn't give his idol up and Kenny is OUT OF HERE!!


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Thanks Scar. The flower of the south.

Great SOTS. I think Bob would be crazy to give up IN, and he has shown himeself to be too wily for that. And Sugar likewise has shown that she is smart enoough to keep her HI, she really has no reason to use her it to save Matty who (along with Bob) would be her worst F3 opponent. Bob would be dangerous too, but not like Matty who is really due for an IC win.

So Bob gets RC, IC and IN, and Matty hits the road. I think all the Kenny focus is to prepare us for his boot next week.

Thanks again. Well done.

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"Finally, there has been some discussion as to whether or not it is an F-2 or F-3 this season. Georjanna brings us this video of Corrine being interviewed where she tells us there is a jury of seven and that most likely her alliance best friends (Marcus/Charlie/Randy) would determine who the winner would be and the last three jurors' votes wouldn’t count as they would be in the minority. Whatever the case, this seems to support the “Final 3” Tribal Council scenario."

It would have been nice for you to also link to the opposing viewpoint and the Titan TV description which suggests the Final 2.

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Sorry to disappoint Corvis. I DON'T have the link and I have NOT SEEN what you refer to. Sorry. If you or anyone else has the link, by all means, please post it!

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Great SOTS, Scarlett.

I am torn between Crystal because I would think that if Bob really gave up the IN, they would vote Bob out. Plus in the video of the Final Five, the front person looks more like Crystal than Susie to me.

Gah. What to do, what to do.

Tis the season.


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Another great SOTS from Scarlett O in her Holiday Attire. Thanks for pulling this weeks story together.
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Great job all season Dear Scarlett...I want to thank you and everyone that has contributed this season. I play the CBS fantasy games and with everyones help here I have maintained first place 4 weeks running now...Ill sahre the $1,000 with ya'll as soon as I get the check....You have done a super job all year..some people just dont relize what all it takes to put all you do in one post...a whole bunch od copy/paste...again super SUPER job....thanks...Hugs, Roger
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Thanks chaoswva!! I appreciate your kind words and wish you all the best in winning the CBS Fantasy game. There is a group of us here that have played that game throughout the years and our very own Out Front Girl even won it during the China season. I don't blame you for checking with our SOTS each week. Although sometimes we are wrong, I'd say our winning average is pretty darn good!

Stick around and post on occasion too! Welcome to Survivor Blows.

P.S. Thanks for the lovely rose, too.

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Oh, almost forgot to toot our own Survivor Blows team, THE ASSKICKERS. A group of us all played for years together in the Private Leagues, and we won many years in a row! Here is the siggie that our lovely KOFan designed for us after winning the Survivor Vanuatu Season...we'll have to get you a nice new siggie for winning...may the force be with you!


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Welcome to our boards, ChaosWVa! I have enjoyed years of playing the CBS Fantasy game, it really used to be a great game. I think they have taken some of the thrill out of it this year though...I wasn't able to sign on to the game for several weeks after the season started....they had alot of problems with that this year. I came in second one year and probably came in at the top 5 for about 3 seasons. I have won 4 hats from them as well. So, GOOD LUCK!!! Make sure to let us know! OUR very own, Outfrontgirl won the whole prize last year, with the China season! We are thrilled to be associated with WINNERS!

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Congrats on first place. I must be looking at the wrong Survivor Fantasy Leaderboard.

Scarlett, I have admired your work as I "lurk" on this site. Thanks.

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LOL me too, DrinkThirty.

The CBS board that I'm looking at has DrinkThirty and myself tied for first place.

I sincerely wish you luck tonight, DrinkThirty! I'm an absolute basketcase at the moment.... switching my team roster back and forth today... I really don't think I want to watch tonight's episode.

And yes, thanks Scarlett and the rest of the team here. You all do a great job (even though I don't always agree... but I'm usually the one wrong, LOL)

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>AT 04:51 PM (EST)

>
>LOL me too, DrinkThirty.
>
>The CBS board that I'm looking
>at has DrinkThirty and myself
>tied for first place.
>
>I sincerely wish you luck tonight,
>DrinkThirty! I'm an absolute
>basketcase at the moment.... switching
>my team roster back and
>forth today... I really
>don't think I want to
>watch tonight's episode.
>
>And yes, thanks Scarlett and the
>rest of the team here.
> You all do a
>great job (even though I
>don't always agree... but I'm
>usually the one wrong, LOL)
>


Hey Pink!

We are so with you on this nail chomping thing. Lots of luck to you a well. We have both been sniffing around the top ten this year at the same time.

Hey, do you know whether or not we are locked in to these two choices for the rest of the game, or can we change again after tonight?

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>Great job all season Dear Scarlett...I
>want to thank you and
>everyone that has contributed this
>season. I play the CBS
>fantasy games and with everyones
>help here I have maintained
>first place 4 weeks running
>now...Ill sahre the $1,000 with
>ya'll as soon as I
>get the check....You have done
>a super job all year..some
>people just dont relize what
>all it takes to put
>all you do in one
>post...a whole bunch od copy/paste...again
>super SUPER job....thanks...Hugs, Roger

Chaos, I'm sorry to tell you I think you're confused about the prizes on cbs. Money prizes are only for the individual leaderboard. Team leaderboards have always been for bragging rights.

If you're been in the top 3 on the individual board this year you get $$$, otherwise no. And even if you have been in the top 3 on that board, you only get paid once per place, so top prize is $400 total for the season if you placed first, second and third on various weeks.

Lots of us here play cbs fantasy, like flowerpower and Scarlett said, Blows has a pretty good history in fantasy league.

-Cat

aka catsbackbaby


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12-11-08, 07:32 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 12"
>Great job all season Dear Scarlett...I
>want to thank you and
>everyone that has contributed this
>season. I play the CBS
>fantasy games and with everyones
>help here I have maintained
>first place 4 weeks running
>now...Ill sahre the $1,000 with
>ya'll as soon as I
>get the check....You have done
>a super job all year..some
>people just dont relize what
>all it takes to put
>all you do in one
>post...a whole bunch od copy/paste...again
>super SUPER job....thanks...Hugs, Roger


Pinkgirlygir and DrinkThirty...I apologize to the both of you as I made a honest mistake in not saying I have maintained first place 4 weeks running in the PUBLIC TRIBES...which pays out at $250 a week...I get nervous posting in a new place..I am #33 behind your #1 and #2...and my hats off to ya for a job well done this year....I had one bad week and I cant make it up now....I wish you both much luck and hope one of you win it all...Sincerly, Roger aka chaoswva.....

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25. "RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 12"
LOL...Can I just start that whole post over and say...I think this is ALL correct but I aint sure on none of it and go from there...LOL....Wow CBS is down big time...i have 7 links and none are working.....Good luck all thats playin tonight....thanks again Lady Scarlett.......Roger
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20. "RE: State of the Spoiling - Episode 12"
Thanks for the SOTS scarlett. I guess we find out tonight who is right about boot.


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