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Flowerpower 4136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-25-08, 09:16 AM (EST) "Vidcaps, Episode 12" LAST EDITED ON 04-25-08 AT 09:18 AM (EST) Thanks to Survivor Fever... The first confessional with James notes that he works with his hands and it's important to get this injury checked out. This probably was his response after Cirie noted it in last nights episode when we saw the cut on his finger. He probably had it wrapped, as we see it bandaged at TC. Then, the pictures of him going into the medic boat are probably right after TC last night....looks as though he has already developed a boil, or abcess. You can see that they have lanced it, to allow for drainage. Looks as though James is indeed headed down the same path that Jonathan took...note the abcess looks to be farther up his arm, and not on his hand....the infection has spread rapidly as did Jonathan's. The question is will he leave this week or next? What a rip off with all of these injuries....ETA: But note we do indeed see James at the Family Reward challenge, as he's right there behind Natalie hugging her mom... Next, notice when we hear Jeff talking about yet another hidden II, we are shown female hands digging...could they be the hands of our next exilee/hidden immunity finder? Note the hands are white and female, and who wears a string bracelet like that? Amanda perhaps...Note her left arm. Will Amanda go to EI and find the hidden II? And Eric is priceless! Spoilers had Alexis winning and taking her friend Natalie with her and their respective loved ones...   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 CattyChat 04-25-08 1    RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 emydi 04-25-08 2        RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 vince3 04-25-08 3            RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 emydi 04-25-08 4                RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 KObrien_fan 04-26-08 12                    RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 vince3 04-26-08 13                        RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 KObrien_fan 04-26-08 14                            RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 PepeLePew13 04-26-08 15                                RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 vince3 04-26-08 16                            RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 Georgianna 04-26-08 20                    RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 Scarlett O Hara 04-26-08 17                        RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 Runnr3003 04-26-08 18                        RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 Corvis 04-28-08 40        RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 suzzee 04-25-08 5            RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 michel 04-25-08 6                RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12 suzzee 04-25-08 7  Well, we now have an idea vince3 04-25-08 8    RE: Well, we now have an idea Runnr3003 04-25-08 9        RE: Well, we now have an idea vince3 04-25-08 10            RE: Well, we now have an idea Runnr3003 04-25-08 11            RE: Well, we now have an idea PepeLePew13 04-26-08 19                RE: Well, we now have an idea Scarlett O Hara 04-27-08 21                    RE: Well, we now have an idea redbeard103152 04-27-08 22                        RE: Well, we now have an idea PepeLePew13 04-27-08 25                    RE: Well, we now have an idea Flowerpower 04-27-08 23                        RE: Well, we now have an idea KObrien_fan 04-27-08 24                            RE: Well, we now have an idea Flowerpower 04-27-08 26                            RE: Well, we now have an idea seldon 04-27-08 30                                RE: Well, we now have an idea CattyChat 04-27-08 32                                    RE: Well, we now have an idea seldon 04-28-08 35                                        RE: Well, we now have an idea CattyChat 04-28-08 41                                            RE: Well, we now have an idea KObrien_fan 04-28-08 42                                    RE: Well, we now have an idea KObrien_fan 04-28-08 36                                        RE: Well, we now have an idea seldon 04-28-08 38                                        RE: Well, we now have an idea Georgianna 04-28-08 39                                RE: Well, we now have an idea UNCLERICH1 04-29-08 50                        RE: Well, we now have an idea Brownroach 04-28-08 44  Promo Flowerpower 04-27-08 27    RE: Promo PepeLePew13 04-27-08 33  another promo... Flowerpower 04-27-08 28    RE: another promo... CattyChat 04-27-08 29        RE: another promo... KObrien_fan 04-27-08 31        RE: another promo... suzzee 04-27-08 34        RE: another promo... Flowerpower 04-28-08 37            RE: another promo... Travel_Queen 04-28-08 43                RE: another promo... Q 04-28-08 45                    RE: another promo... Runnr3003 04-28-08 46            RE: another promo... Carezy 04-28-08 47                Possible scenario Misty365 04-29-08 48                    RE: Possible scenario vince3 04-29-08 49                    RE: Possible scenario Brownroach 04-29-08 51                    RE: Possible scenario Georgianna 04-29-08 52                        RE: Possible scenario vince3 04-29-08 53                            RE: Possible scenario Brownroach 04-29-08 54                                RE: Possible scenario Scarlett O Hara 04-29-08 55                                RE: Possible scenario vince3 04-29-08 56                                    RE: Possible scenario Brownroach 04-29-08 58                                        RE: Possible scenario vince3 04-29-08 59                        RE: Possible scenario Flowerpower 04-29-08 57                            RE: Possible scenario Outfrontgirl 04-30-08 60                                RE: Possible scenario seldon 04-30-08 61                                    RE: Possible scenario Outfrontgirl 04-30-08 62                                        RE: Possible scenario vince3 04-30-08 63

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CattyChat 3379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 04-25-08, 10:06 AM (EST) 1. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" Things don't look to good for James. If the spoiler is correct that he suffers a game-ending injury that takes him out (rather than voted out) are correct I think he leaves this week. His injury was a focal point of last night's ep, highlighted on at least 3 different occasions. I think he he will go just like Jonathan did and I guess sometime between reward and TC. If the injury doesn't take him out, he would have been next to be voted out unless he wins immunity. Either James hangs tough & wins immunity & Erik is voted out or James is taken out of the game by medical before IC and then Erik is voted out at TC. Leaving WAY too much estrogen on that island, for my taste. Re the digging pictures: Could that be Amanda from last night's IC? The HII has been under that coral/rock thing both times prior, so I don't know if it would be buried in sand this time. It'll be interesting to see who has the right to send someone to exile. If Amanda, James or Erik do they should send one of their 3 to find the HII or send Cirie, who is too lazy to find it for the Black Widow Alliance. But I could see them choosing Parvati as "punishment" and keeping her from her family. If any of the BWA get the right, their best bet would be to send wide-eyed-and-almost-as-clueless-as-Jason Erik to the island. Good chance he couldn't figure out the clues, but if he did he could be suckered just like Jason with the promise of "friendship." Poor James and his boo-boo.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

emydi 11392 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-25-08, 11:46 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" FP Nice catch on James...I couldn't see him in the previews but I really wasn't looking that closely. Wonder why he doesn't get the same shot... Either James hangs tough & wins immunity & Erik is voted out or James is taken out of the game by medical before IC and then Erik is voted out at TC. No they wouldn't have a tc like Bruce...too many shows left to be down to 5 after next week. Re the digging pictures: Could that be Amanda from last night's IC? The HII has been under that coral/rock thing both times prior, so I don't know if it would be buried in sand this time. That's exactly what I said last nite when I watched that...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vince3 9428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-25-08, 12:07 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" Currently we're at 7 left, F3 for FTC. 5/1/08: If James and Erik/Natalie/whoever both go, we're down to 5 left, but then we might have a F2 for FTC..... depending on how bad his injury is..... and whether he'd be able to return to the jury...... 5/8/08 If it's not a double on 5/1, then this starts at 6 and ends at 5 or if that was a double, then we start at 5 and go to 4 which sets up beautifully for a F2 FTC...... but will the FTC be F2 or F3? 5/11/08, Finale: If it's a F3 FTC and we start the episode at 5 or a F2 FTC and we start the episode at 4 then we got 2 IC's to go through, the 2nd of which is usually endurance related....... We just have to wait and see.......   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

emydi 11392 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-25-08, 12:29 PM (EST) 4. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" nope it's a f3 it would have come out otherwise by now in spoilers.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

KObrien_fan 8200 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-26-08, 04:43 AM (EST) 12. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" It's an F2 and this week is a double boot. I'm not sure who came first hosting games, you or Tribe, but you are both nefarious! - CTGirl   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vince3 9428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-26-08, 06:03 AM (EST) 13. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" Does this definitely mean that James doesn't make it back to the Jury in time, and the previously planned F3 goes to F2 so that they still have 7 jurors?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

KObrien_fan 8200 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-26-08, 06:57 AM (EST) 14. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" James will be back in time, not sure why they aren't worried about a tie with 8 jurors but they weren't. I'm not sure who came first hosting games, you or Tribe, but you are both nefarious! - CTGirl   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 17981 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-26-08, 07:28 AM (EST) 15. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" They were never worried about a tie coming up with the F3 scenario in recent seasons, so why should that stop them from worrying about a tie in the F2?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vince3 9428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-26-08, 12:29 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" Wasn't one of the things on the China challenge board called "Void a juror" or something like that? Maybe they're gonna activate it this time?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Georgianna 514 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 04-26-08, 10:30 PM (EST) 20. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" Hello, KO ... Thank you for popping in. You're missed. I had thought that we would probably see an F2 if James didn't return to take his place on the Jury. That would have been a logical, and defensible, solution to a readily apparent problem. But, I think that if he is back at, or before, Final 3, then a Final 2 with an eight-member Jury is going to reek of a rigged election - 'twist', my foot! - no matter who the disenfranchised third-party candidate turns out to be. Would you agree? Or am I being much too cynical? And do you know when the show's producers made their decision? And why? Because I'm baffled. G   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Scarlett O Hara 2824 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 04-26-08, 04:08 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" It's an F2 and this week is a double boot. Ummm, And you know this because ...? "Your'e amazing -- own it!" ... Ami Cusack talking about Ozzy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Runnr3003 146 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 04-26-08, 05:11 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" Scarlett, now that Ozzy is out, who do you want to win this thing, and who do you think will win?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Corvis 2161 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator" 04-28-08, 11:26 AM (EST) 40. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" Cuz she's KOBrien.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

suzzee 1125 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 04-25-08, 02:40 PM (EST) 5. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor16/photos/photos.php?v=1609&s=9&p=1 This photo shows Amanda's left arm, bracelet with the white bead on it. Could be from last night's challenge but sand is sand. A Tribal Sig   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

michel 3669 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 04-25-08, 03:32 PM (EST) 6. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" Parvati has a bracelet like that also. It was visible during her talk with James where she tried to do damage control. Look when she fixes her hair and says: "I wanted to say I'm sorry..."   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

suzzee 1125 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 04-25-08, 03:43 PM (EST) 7. "RE: Vidcaps, Episode 12" They've got more jewelry then Mrs. Thruston Howell III. Also the hole that they were digging for the key had a rope outline that was a fairly small area. I can't see it around where the hands are digging but that doesn't mean anything.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vince3 9428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-25-08, 03:43 PM (EST) 8. "Well, we now have an idea" LAST EDITED ON 04-25-08 AT 03:45 PM (EST) Survivor Phoenix has this on the Finale: Sunday, May 11 (8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) The special two-hour finale begins with four remaining castaways vying for the $1 million prize and title of "Ultimate Survivor." The finale is followed by a one-hour live reunion show hosted by Jeff Probst. This means that if James gets medivac'd out, there will still be a TC that episode..........   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Runnr3003 146 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 04-25-08, 07:22 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" I have not seen anywhere where its said that someone is medi-vac'd out of the game, all I've seen is that the injuries continue. Have I missed something somewhere? If so, please fwd the link. thx   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vince3 9428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-25-08, 07:31 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Survivor Fever's Bootlist, you may need to refresh that page to see it for episode 12........ http://www.survivorfever.net/s16_bootsheet.html I will note that for the longest time it said for James "makes merge", and now it says "mid jury"....... (but does he actually return to the jury? That's the question!)   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Runnr3003 146 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 04-25-08, 07:45 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Thanks Vince! That was very interesting. I was hoping that James would make it to the F3, but doesnt look like thats gonna happen. When they say Late Game, does that mean they are part of the F3? I noted that Cirie is listed as Late Game/Late Jury. If it comes down to Amanda and Parvati, I think Amanda would win it. At least, of those three, I'd like to see Amanda win. Who do you think will make F3, who do you think will win, and who's your wild card?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 17981 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-26-08, 05:34 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Interesting. The S-Fever boot list has Natalie listed as "safe" for the next episode while Alexis and Erik are both listed as "vulnerable". I'd like to know what made them think Natalie is safe but Alexis isn't - my initial thought was that it'd be the other way around as the CBS clue mentioned that a "power player is suddenly vulnerable." The list, according to S-Fever: Alexis - vulnerable Amanda - safe Cirie - safe Erik - vulnerable James - medivac? Natalie - safe Parvati - safe   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Scarlett O Hara 2824 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 04-27-08, 07:47 AM (EST) 21. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Well Pepe, since KOBrien_fan is telling us that two leave this week, one will be James and the other IMHO, would most likely be Natalie or Alexis. Note the clue that tells us a "Power player is suddenly vulnerable" or something to that effect, so that tells me that it would NOT be Erik, but rather one of the dominant alliance. BTW, Runner, now I'm cheering for Amanda ... "Game on!" "Your'e amazing -- own it!" ... Ami Cusack talking about Ozzy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

redbeard103152 404 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 04-27-08, 08:32 AM (EST) 22. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Scarlett I am leaning to Amanda's side too. In my opinion the only way one of the "power players will be suddenly vulnerable" is if Erik wins the IC again. There would be no way that the "black widows" would vote out one of their own if Eric could be voted out. Either that or Erik goes to EI and finds the HII.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 17981 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-27-08, 09:29 AM (EST) 25. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Just a thought. Why couldn't it just be that someone else wins the IC, but the way the in-camp discussion is going leads a current power player (i.e. Cirie or Parvati) to fear for her status in the game? Then it turns out to be much ado about nothing at TC when Erik gets booted, just another CBS misdirection? It wouldn't take much for a power player to fear for her status in the game - after all, we've seen a Survivor 'legend' get turfed out onto his azz (Ozzy) because he thought he was so secure in the game, and we've had blindside after blindside in this game. Like Jiffy said, anyone who still believes they are safe in this game is a fool. We could have a situation where Cirie or Parvati could fear for their status if they see Alexis, Natalie, and Erik (or James) talking to Amanda, for example. Or even if James got medivac'ed out, we're left with 3 Fans and 3 Faves, who's to say this doesn't put a little fear in some of the Faves that there could be a tie at TC? Just throwing some random perspectives out there...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Flowerpower 4136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-27-08, 08:42 AM (EST) 23. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Okay: First of all KOFan said that there will be 2 boots this week....she did not say a medivac and a boot, she said "2 boots". To me that says that 2 people will leave the game by being voted out. While I totally give major kudos to Survivor Fever this season for having the inside track, since the jury has begun we seen the list veer off track a bit...Ozzy was not mid jury, Jason was supposed to be after Eliza, and then followed by the remaining men...now, we are getting clues from CBS that point to a woman for this week. Let's just take what someone says and still try to figure it out. Alexis, to me, is not a major power player. Natalie was not in a position of power until the last episode, she is being edited as one who is getting arrogant as to their position in the game. She, imo, would make the most likely candidate to get blindsided at this point. Regarding James, no doubt he's in danger of having to leave the game. I would think that he would he seen more in crisis in the vidcaps though, as Jonathan was in his leaving episode, but definately not necessarily. This should be a very fun episode, indeed!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

KObrien_fan 8200 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-27-08, 09:09 AM (EST) 24. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" When I say two boots I do not mean quite literally. We will have one "medivac" and one TC vote boot. A woman will be the actual boot while James will be the medivac. There is way more to the story than meets the eye, the person being booted should not have been booted at this slot but circumstances have created that need. I'm not sure who came first hosting games, you or Tribe, but you are both nefarious! - CTGirl   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Flowerpower 4136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-27-08, 01:19 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Thanks for the clarification, KO! And thanks for all the unbelievable spoiling you have passed on this season! WOW! That clears up alot, James does indeed look to be traveling down the path that Jonathan took...and very, very intriguing regarding the female boot!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

seldon 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 04-27-08, 05:59 PM (EST) 30. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" There's a poster at Sucks that posted something about this but he had posted stuff that was both right and wrong and this seemed waaaaay out there, so the jury was out about it being a spoiler. And after the preview showed James' finger actually cut then people thought it was a hoax after all. But now you say there is more to it, so maybe he was right? I can't find his post, but what he said was that Alexis and James go to a restricted area for crew only and get some food and so they are kicked off the show, but that the producers do a cover story of the two being injured and having to leave the game. Are those the circumstances? >When I say two boots I >do not mean quite literally. > We will have one >"medivac" and one TC vote >boot. A woman will >be the actual boot while >James will be the medivac. > There is way more >to the story than meets >the eye, the person being >booted should not have been >booted at this slot but >circumstances have created that need.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CattyChat 3379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 04-27-08, 06:08 PM (EST) 32. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" LOL! That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. There is no way James would steal food from the crew. Also, his injury looked pretty nasty & I can't see how or why they would fake it. Lastly, if any contestant on Survivor actually did "cheat" like that, there isn't a doubt in my mind that EPMB would show it to the viewers and make the the cheaters suffer the scorn of the viewers and fellow contestants and evict them from the game in shame.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

seldon 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 04-28-08, 00:44 AM (EST) 35. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" The OP wasn't me and there's no need to be nasty about my asking the question. As I said, that spoiler was not taken seriously because it was too strange and also since because we got to see James' injury in the preview. Another reason it was thought this was fake was the extra money that James got after China. But that poster gave other spoilers about things that happened that weren't in previews but seen in the show, so it's possible that he would know if something funky was going on. Maybe he's creating a fake reason to cover up the real one. KOB's cryptic post implies something's going on. That post from Sucks is the only other explanation I've seen posted, so I just asked if that was it. Up to her to clarify or not. >LOL! That is the most >ridiculous thing I've heard. >There is no way James >would steal food from the >crew. Also, his injury >looked pretty nasty & I >can't see how or why >they would fake it. > >Lastly, if any contestant on Survivor >actually did "cheat" like that, >there isn't a doubt in >my mind that EPMB would >show it to the viewers >and make the the cheaters >suffer the scorn of the >viewers and fellow contestants and >evict them from the game >in shame.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CattyChat 3379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 04-28-08, 12:15 PM (EST) 41. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Seldon, my remark was in no way meant to be nasty, nor was it directed at you. I just really found the "spoiler" to be really funny and far-fetched. Maybe if this was S2 - Australia, where the Survivors were truly starving to death I might believe it, but there really doesn't seem to be a lack of food at the former Malakal beach and the Survivors this season aren't losing that much weight compared to other seasons. Also, I don't see that to be in James' character. James wouldn't be calling Parvati selfish for making a power move and then go and steal food himself and "cheat." But that is just my opinion. I also don't believe there is as much "cheating" going on during Survivor as other people do. A friend of mine who has watched since S1 still swears that the Survivors are allowed daily showers with running water and bathroom facilities and that the "roughing it" is not real. So, my LOL, was at the "Spoiler" you found and not at you. Sorry that you took it the wrong way.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

KObrien_fan 8200 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-28-08, 01:08 PM (EST) 42. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Just as an FYI on the "they don't seem to be starving or losing as much weight as other seasons." James is a big man needing alot of food to stoke his fire, he has done back to back seasons and was not 100% recovered from China yet. This season it has rained way more than most seasons and while they show us on camera that they appear to be eating alot of coconuts, they are really not eating alot of protein. Very hard to fish when it rains, very hard to scrounge for food or do anything much but sit around and wait it out. It looks way easier than it is, these guys are perpetually hungry even with the reward food/merge feast. Now also keep in mind that James knows he is not long for this game with the guys being picked off. He was probably out walking and got a little close to production and didn't weigh the consequences of his actions, he gave in to hunger and bit the apple, I so can see him doing this. I can also see Alexis doing this too, Georgiana made a great point by saying that is why Jeff really played up her pouting about not getting food at the temptation IC. I'm not sure who came first hosting games, you or Tribe, but you are both nefarious! - CTGirl   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

KObrien_fan 8200 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-28-08, 03:43 AM (EST) 36. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" It isn't all that ridiculous really, hunger, lack of sleep, days on end on an island, they can all make you do things that aren't normally sane. James is a big guy that needs alot of food, Alexis may be the second coming of Stephame (remember the sacred chicken?) Lastly, if any contestant on Survivor actually did "cheat" like that, there isn't a doubt in my mind that EPMB would show it to the viewers and make the the cheaters suffer the scorn of the viewers and fellow contestants and evict them from the game in shame. Actually not true, they have taken great lengths in the past to cover up cheating for the sanctity of the precious game. They want to protect their image as a "reality" show so they will do what it takes to make it look real. I'm not sure who came first hosting games, you or Tribe, but you are both nefarious! - CTGirl   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

seldon 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 04-28-08, 08:53 AM (EST) 38. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Thanks!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Georgianna 514 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 04-28-08, 10:42 AM (EST) 39. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" I read the same information (at Survivor Sucks) a few days ago. I suppose I need to rethink that 'particularly meanspirited ... tripe' comment. In addition to Jeff's deference to James at the China reunion, I thought too that it would create more suspicion and controversy (both inside and outside the Game) than it resolved if they attempted to discipline the two players via exaggerating minor injuries. But, I suppose that if the players who didn't cheat knew about it, then it is possible that the producers may have been between the rock of a general mutiny and the hard place of removing Alexis and James from the competition. In any event, perhaps we also now have an idea why Alexis' snit (during an earlier IIC) after being denied the food bribe to which she obviously felt entitled was so prominently played. This has been, it seems to me, a singularly odd Season. From my perspective (and perhaps I'll yet post a truncated Signs of Survival), it was the most prejudicially - cast ... manipulative ... staging of the Game since Thailand and Palau. For instance: the tribal compositions were designed to give the Favorites a huge initial advantage. The Fans (as a tribe) never had a prayer. Not because of the individuals, but because of the types and the ratios, that were cast. And if (as I mentioned above), we are about to see a ham-handed attempt to fine tune the Final Three/Final Two (particularly if the effort keeps the extremely popular Cirie from appearing before the Jury), then I think that they've lost their corporate mind.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

UNCLERICH1 115 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 04-29-08, 10:56 AM (EST) 50. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Hi seldon: The first time I saw this posted was at Survivor Skills!! the original post was by StevieBlazer on April 18,2008 at 17:09 http://www.survivorskills.com click on above link, then navigation forum, then survivor spoilers, then topic title episode 11 page 1 post 10   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Brownroach 10826 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-28-08, 03:12 PM (EST) 44. "RE: Well, we now have an idea" Alexis, to me, is not a major power player. Natalie was not in a position of power until the last episode, she is being edited as one who is getting arrogant as to their position in the game. She, imo, would make the most likely candidate to get blindsided at this point. I agree, fp, the description fits Natalie better -- but I suppose "power-player" in this blurb could refer to anyone in the dominant (i.e. female) alliance, since none of the women *should* be in danger this week. Bleauin' ze bleus eaué, coeurtesie oeuf agmanne   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Flowerpower 4136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-27-08, 04:11 PM (EST) 27. "Promo" Thanks to Survivor Fever: Very interesting....these two vidcaps: Note the word, JURE, is over both of these people...as in JURY. Note they must be the two injuries...we know that James is and now Alexis and her knee...note the buff around her knee here... The voiceover asks, but will they be evacuated...my guess, yes, someone will. Judging by the IV in James and the lancing of his abscess, that it will most likely be him...And besides, KO tells us that someone will be evacuated.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 17981 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-27-08, 06:15 PM (EST) 33. "RE: Promo" It seems weird to me to see Alexis so highlighted in these three vidcaps, almost like she's a ghost. A clear hint that she's the odd person out of this group and getting the boot? And as an aside... nice to see that Amanda's butt is being blurred out once again in the third vidcap. Ah, good ol' times...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Flowerpower 4136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-27-08, 04:27 PM (EST) 28. "another promo..." Thanks to Survivor Fever: With this promo we see them at the IC. Note that James is NOT on the mat at the beginning of the challenge, where is he? Could he have been evacuated this soon? Regarding the challenge, it's a shooting challenge with a definate coconut chop challenge feel. We see that they are aiming at dolls of themselves, probably last doll left in tact is the winner. We see Parvati's and Amanda's dolls shot to smitherines. We see Natalie and Erik shooting. I predict out of all of the daws left, that they are most likely to be the last 2 standing, as the least threatening of them all. So will Erik or Natalie win the IC? I think it most probable that Erik will, IF, a girl is slated to get the boot...?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

CattyChat 3379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 04-27-08, 05:49 PM (EST) 29. "RE: another promo..." LAST EDITED ON 04-27-08 AT 05:52 PM (EST) Actually, the dolls/coconut challenge is the reward. If you look to the first shots posted above where the friends/family arrive, you will see the same set up. In line with that, my guess is that James will be taken out first, followed closely by Amanda & Parvati. James/Erik/Amanda will definitely aim for Parvati first and the alliance of Nat/Alex/Cirie/Parv will go for James, Erik & Amanda. Natalie or Alexis will win reward. It looks like Amanda returning from Exile with her bag on her shoulder, which also makes me think it points to a Nat or Alexis reward win. The shooting thing will be IC and they'll probably be shooting at small tiles or something that is not shown. I would assume Erik would have the advantage, coming from a tiny podunk midwest place where he probably learned to shoot at a young age. Amanda would be my second guess to win Immunity in a shooting challenge (since she's from Montana).   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

KObrien_fan 8200 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-27-08, 06:02 PM (EST) 31. "RE: another promo..." Natalie won't be winning reward, she was reported earlier this season to have had the chance to visit her loved one when her girlfriend won reward and picked her to enjoy the reward. That points to an Alexis RC win. I'm not sure who came first hosting games, you or Tribe, but you are both nefarious! - CTGirl   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

suzzee 1125 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 04-27-08, 06:43 PM (EST) 34. "RE: another promo..." I'm guessing all his shooting experience comes from Playstation! Spring outfit thanks to Sharnina   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Flowerpower 4136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-28-08, 07:12 AM (EST) 37. "RE: another promo..." Wow, Catty, you are right! I mistook the shooting challenge and the coconut chop type challenge as the same challenge....well, they both involve projectiles at a target. Yes, we have had spoilers for a long time that say Alexis will win the reward and take Natalie with her... Regarding the IC, I still think that Erik will win that, as if he didn't, a boy would be going home, aka the black widows. Of course he could be going to EI and find the Hidden II as well, I suppose, but I really got the impression a white female will go and perhaps find it, most likely Amanda.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Travel_Queen 31 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 04-28-08, 01:24 PM (EST) 43. "RE: another promo..." With the emphasis on the "idol curse", does that mean that the next person to get it, will be as doomed as their predecesors??   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Q 2502 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Survivor-themed Cruise Spokesperson" 04-28-08, 03:21 PM (EST) 45. "RE: another promo..." I think that is further mis-direction. If it was a guy, Eric, then I would say yes, but I think a woman, Amanda, winning it will end the curse. A woman would not be A)Arrogant enough to not play it when needed and B)Stupid enough to believe they were safe (especially Amanda). I too am rooting... GO AMANDA!!!! It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - States: The Bene Gesserit View. All States Are an Abstraction.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Runnr3003 146 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 04-28-08, 04:59 PM (EST) 46. "RE: another promo..." Ditto Q!! I dont think Amanda would be dumb enough to trust the 4 blackwidow-wanna-bees left on the show. I really hope she is the one that gets sent to EI, finds the idol, and returns to win the IC. That would be priceless! GO AMANDA!!!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Carezy 32 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 04-28-08, 11:30 PM (EST) 47. "RE: another promo..." I just noticed that Survivor Fever added this promo. I don't know how to transfer the voiceover vidcap, but if you go here you can see it. It's at the bottom of the page. http://www.survivorfever.net/s16_ep12_jp_preview.html So, i'm guessing the way people can chop each others coconuts is if they have the personal questions right. I really enjoy those challenges, it's got so many funny reactions.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Misty365 28 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 04-29-08, 09:05 AM (EST) 48. "Possible scenario" My two cents FWIW... This week James is medivac. Amanda to EI and finds II. Erik wins immunity - Alexis is voted out. Since they apparently already know who is going home there should be no need for the II to be played. This leaves 5. The II is good thru the final 5 TC correct? So next week Erik should be voted out, but Amanda gives him the II and they vote Natalie. Final four is Amanda, Erik, Cirie and Parvarti. Erik does not win immunity at final 4 so he is voted out. We actually end up with a final three alliance that was shown to us from the very beginning. One thing I have seen repeatedly here is that alliances shown do not succeed. So either the editors changed it up this time or this is where my "theory" gets a little wacko - at final four there is a tie between Cirie and either Amanda or Erik. Cirie loses the tie breaker and the final 3 is Amanda, Erik and Parvarti. One of the women wins final immunity and takes the other. Of course for this to work they have to know it is a final two not final 3. Just wanted to put this out there...you all can laugh now!!!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vince3 9428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-29-08, 09:12 AM (EST) 49. "RE: Possible scenario" If Cirie is in a F4 tiebreaker and loses again, I would find it completely ironic, since she had 4 seasons to hone her fire building skills since her first F4 tiebreaker loss......... (unless, of course, this time it isn't fire making........)   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Brownroach 10826 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-29-08, 11:39 AM (EST) 51. "RE: Possible scenario" Apparently something dumb is going to happen at the F5 TC, according to TV Guide, but I can't imagine that Amanda would ever give Eric the hidden idol. Why? Eric will only make it past F5 if he finds the hidden idol himself and plays it then or if he wins regular immunity again. Bleauin' ze bleus eaué, coeurtesie oeuf agmanne   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Georgianna 514 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 04-29-08, 11:56 AM (EST) 52. "RE: Possible scenario" Since they apparently already know who is going home there should be no need for the II to be played. You would think that, wouldn't you? But, the very last line of the Episode 12 Promo linked above reads: “Jeff Probst: And, in an ongoing theme of this great season, the idol comes into play yet again. You will not be disappointed.” So, now I am even more confused than I usually am ...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vince3 9428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-29-08, 12:36 PM (EST) 53. "RE: Possible scenario" Ep. 12 is F5, and it's probably gonna be Erik, Amanda, Natalie, Parvati, and Cirie, right? It's also supposedly the last chance for the HII to be used. If Amanda finds it in Ep. 11, there might be a reminder in the packaging that it's expiration date is soon. Parvati and Cirie realize that if Amanda gets close to the endurance final IC she's probably gonna win it, provided she doesn't have to go potty again..... They figure they don't want to take their chances and do a temp swing with the Fans, Natalie and Erik, and go to vote her out. When Jiffy announces the call for the HII at the F5 TC, whether he says that it's also Last Call or not, Amanda presents her HII and her vote is the bounce out vote...........   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Brownroach 10826 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-29-08, 12:52 PM (EST) 54. "RE: Possible scenario" vince, Ep 12 is this Thursday's episode. Bleauin' ze bleus eaué, coeurtesie oeuf agmanne   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Scarlett O Hara 2824 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest" 04-29-08, 01:06 PM (EST) 55. "RE: Possible scenario" Vince, I don't see Erik voting for Amanda either. I would love to see Amanda hold on to it until the last possible TC (next week). That would be awesome! "Your'e amazing -- own it!" ... Ami Cusack talking about Ozzy   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vince3 9428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-29-08, 01:06 PM (EST) 56. "RE: Possible scenario" LAST EDITED ON 04-29-08 AT 01:07 PM (EST) That's what I get for posting slightly tired...... *clears head* Okay, new plan. Erik has to win immunity or he's toast. They're playing up the "curse of the idol", so if Amanda is the one to find it she probably will play it immediately, especially since we'd be down to 3 Fans vs. 3 Favorites...... If the Fans decided to unite and vote Amanda to the Favorites Alexis, then we'd be tied 3-3 Alex and Amanda....... However, Amanda learned the lessons of both Ozzy and Jason and plays that bloody idol. And it's the ultimate irony shot to Estee and her Society Islands fanfiction series to have Alex(is) bounced out by a HII, since her Alex was responsible for 2 game-changing bounces in her story..........   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Brownroach 10826 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-29-08, 01:14 PM (EST) 58. "RE: Possible scenario" If the Fans decided to unite and vote Amanda to the Favorites Alexis, then we'd be tied 3-3 Alex and Amanda....... However, Amanda learned the lessons of both Ozzy and Jason and plays that bloody idol. I'm also wondering if something like that is going to happen. If James is gone and Erik wins immunity, Alexis and Natalie have to realize that one of them is in trouble. So it finally occurs to them to propose a Fan's alliance?! But if they think Amanda may have the idol...wouldn't they decide to vote for Parvati or Cirie instead? Bleauin' ze bleus eaué, coeurtesie oeuf agmanne   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vince3 9428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-29-08, 01:48 PM (EST) 59. "RE: Possible scenario" I can think of three reasons that they might have opted for Amanda instead. 1. Amanda's was Ozzy's girlfriend, she can't be much smarter than him...... 2. The idol has cast a stupidity field over the last 3 holders and prevented them from using it to save their bacon, why would this cycle be any different, if she does happen to have it....... 3. Heck, they might've even kept Parv and Cirie and had them vote for Amanda too, maybe it's 5-1 (or 4-2 if Erik refuses....) and then the bounce is really apparent......   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Flowerpower 4136 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest" 04-29-08, 01:07 PM (EST) 57. "RE: Possible scenario" As Georgiana has noted, “Jeff Probst: And, in an ongoing theme of this great season, the idol comes into play yet again. You will not be disappointed.” Amanda will find the Hidden II, and in order for it to "come into play", she will indeed play it. Alexis will go by default...imo. And who knows, perhaps someone will find the hidden II next week as well and play it then too...that hidden II definately has seen far more action than ever before...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 3955 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 04-30-08, 06:25 PM (EST) 60. "RE: Possible scenario" It does sound like she will play it, and we were shown earlier why she wants Alexis out, so it would make sense for her to vote Alexis. KO said earlier that it wouldn't have been Alexis if not for the food cheating (at least, that's how I read KO's post). Doesn't that imply that the producers had to jiggle the vote in order to send Alexis (cheater) packing? Just spec, but could that involve a nudge to Amanda to vote Alexis and play the idol? Re Amanda's "dislike" of Alexis, I saw in Ozzy's interview that the whole jealousy of Alexis was overblown, that Amanda was lying on the other side of Ozzy but had gotten up to take a bathroom break. Then we're shown Amanda's concern about "motivational speaker" even though Alexis never emerged as a real boot target that episode. In hindsight, with KO's apparent agreement with the Blazer post, it looks to me like maybe they edited in an Amanda vs Alexis theme in order to make this Alexis boot make sense to us. Just spec of course. It would also not be strange, if Erik shoots his way to immunity (can you say this is tailored to help a guy survive much?), for the 3 faves to target a fan -- especially if Alexis and Nat are off on reward. While Parv might want to keep the two fans as an alliance to help her eliminate Amanda, I don't see why Cirie would want to keep the two unknowns around as they could easily decide to take her down at F5. That would be a very simple vote, Faves against Fans. But it sounds like things will be more interesting than that. Or the black widow brigade could have the hubris to try to set up Amanda just the same as Jason, only this time the target can't be an alt choice like James, but must be one of their own, in this case Alexis playing the pawn. Amanda plays the idol and Alexis goes even though the others voted Amanda. That would be fun to see. My only problem with the fake injury scenario is that James' arm appears to have a nasty boil on it. But perhaps medical could have knocked it out without IV meds. I find it hard to believe they made a fake boil, but hey, it's TV! Re the question of why James and Alexis would be foraging together, I wonder if it could have happened during Ep 10 when James was left alone with the 3 girls. He must have been bitterly disappointed to lose that great RC feast and know the others were feasting. I could see how it might take 3-4 days after their being caught before the situation was decided. I noticed that James and Alexis were both shut out during the auction - no winning bids, which I thought odd, why wouldn't they go all out to win something, especially James, doesn't seem like a guy to take a chance on the auction ending leaving him empty-handed. They made it look like a bat was enough for him, but that can't be true.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

seldon 18 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson" 04-30-08, 07:28 PM (EST) 61. "RE: Possible scenario" >KO said earlier that it wouldn't >have been Alexis if not >for the food cheating (at >least, that's how I read >KO's post). Doesn't >that imply that the producers >had to jiggle the vote >in order to send Alexis >(cheater) packing? Just spec, >but could that involve a >nudge to Amanda to vote >Alexis and play the idol? At Sucks too they're figuring all sorts of reasons of how the blindside happens, but there's no blindside if Alexis is out because production decided. If they're faking TC for us, maybe we'll see it as blindside, but no reason for Amanda to play her idol. Why would Amanda pay for Alexis cheating and have to play the idol? It makes no sense if she loses her advantage. If the producers all want Alexis out like KOB and the guy from Sucks say, just vote her out and no reason needed from the players.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Outfrontgirl 3955 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 04-30-08, 11:31 PM (EST) 62. "RE: Possible scenario" I gave up on wading through Sucks topics awhile ago ... I agree with your point. If production intervenes absolutely and says, Alexis, you are out, and here's how the vote will go, they have no "right" to make Amanda use her idol. And perhaps she doesn't. I was trying to think of a scenario where the manipulation is on a smaller level than that. I have no knowledge of how production did or didn't handle the cheating, if it happened. I still think that we were given a few highlighted moments showing Amanda's desire to get Alexis out, that had no function in the story at the time. Since I made that last post, I read that Jason said Alexis bid and won a letter from home, but it was not shown, and that he was given food when he arrived at EI. I tend to believe the rumor about Alexis, because her edit has been so low key and lousy this season. The editors could have picked a fan female for us to root for, and I expected Alexis to be it, but it didn't happen. In hindsight, could have been that they were too upset with her. As for James, he's one of the most popular Survivors ever and a fan favorite. They are not going to want to tarnish his image, particularly after he was voted to get the extra prize in China. (this season was edited after the China Finale aired, even though it was filmed beforehand)   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

vince3 9428 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 04-30-08, 11:51 PM (EST) 63. "RE: Possible scenario" I think Alexis's blog faux pas didn't help matters..........   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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