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03-07-08, 09:43 AM (EST)
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"Visting Survivor Fever's list"
I looked over Survivor Fever's list, particularly the longevity of the players, and realized we have a lot of information about the course of the game from here on out, if we believe the list is accurate. I figure we can look at the list as a whole and see what it could tell us about the remaining stages of the game. So I threw together a quick SOTS for the rest of the season, to get the information together.

Players who are gone pre-jury:
- Ami
- Chet
- Jonathan
- Kathy
- Tracy

Merge:
- James

Early jury:
- Eliza (first juror)
- Erik
- Jason

Mid-Jury:
- Ozzy

Mid to Late Jury:
- Alexis
- Amanda
- Cirie
- Parvati
- Natalie

So, what does this tell us?
- There's only one two Airai on the pre-jury list, and both leave for medical reasons, so Airai wins every immunity challenge until the merge.
- Eliza is the first juror, and James is the only person without any jury reference in his longevity. So that leaves 9 people in the jury and finalists. Have we gotten confirmation on whether it's a final 3 or a final 2? If not, then my speculation is on a final 2, with a 7 person jury. This also tells me that James does not win the first II, since he gets voted out.
- Quote from CobySucks: Someone this season does get it "jamie style". (Burned by a fake hidden immunity idol?) - We're shown Jason in the Ep. 6 previews finding the fake idol, so Jason looks like our best candidate for getting burnt by the fake II. Quote from Jeff: A major blunder. I know when it happened that James was thinking, thank God. Since James is in an alliance with Ozzy, the would not be pleased if Ozzy made a blunder with his idol.
- Quote from Jeff Probst: I can tell you that the idols play a major part in this season. Capital letters. They do have more impact than I think they've ever had. They have more impact this season than ever before. Jeff is saying plural idols, which means that not only does the fake one get played, Ozzy plays the real one.
- Other than Eliza, all of the early merge boots are strong men. The trend of picking off the strong continues through the season.
- Quote from Jeff: The fans wanted to be sure that a fan won the game. The favorites wanted to be certain that no matter what a favorite won the game. - Have we just been given the jury votes? If so, a Favorite wins a Final 2, since a Fave vs. Fan jury would be 4-3 Faves.

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 RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list Scarlett O Hara 03-07-08 1
   RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list KObrien_fan 03-07-08 2
       RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list Lasann 03-07-08 3
 RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list Brownroach 03-07-08 4
   RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list Estee 03-07-08 5
   RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list emydi 03-07-08 7
   RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list Bebo 03-07-08 10
 RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list sugarbooger62 03-07-08 6
   RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list Q 03-07-08 8
       RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list Estee 03-07-08 9
       RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list Brownroach 03-07-08 11
   Playing the fake idol byoffer 03-07-08 13
       RE: Playing the fake idol Brownroach 03-07-08 15
           RE: Playing the fake idol television 03-07-08 21
       RE: Playing the fake idol dingbat 03-08-08 25
           RE: Playing the fake idol citywitch 03-09-08 26
       RE: Playing the fake idol Erika221 03-09-08 27
           RE: Playing the fake idol accidentalparent 03-10-08 28
 Ami vince3 03-07-08 12
   RE: Ami electropoprebel 03-07-08 14
       RE: Ami byoffer 03-07-08 16
           RE: Ami ohmyheck 03-07-08 17
               RE: Ami electropoprebel 03-07-08 18
           RE: Ami vince3 03-07-08 19
 Eliza as first juror Bebo 03-07-08 20
   RE: Eliza as first juror electropoprebel 03-07-08 22
       RE: Eliza as first juror Bebo 03-08-08 23
   RE: Eliza as first juror KObrien_fan 03-08-08 24
       RE: Eliza as first juror Modesty 03-10-08 29
           RE: Eliza as first juror PepeLePew13 03-10-08 30
               RE: Eliza as first juror Modesty 03-10-08 31
                   RE: Eliza as first juror KObrien_fan 03-10-08 32
                       RE: Eliza as first juror CTgirl 03-10-08 33
                       RE: Eliza as first juror Flowerpower 03-10-08 34
                           RE: Eliza as first juror KObrien_fan 03-10-08 36
                               RE: Eliza as first juror Flowerpower 03-10-08 37
                       RE: Eliza as first juror Scarlett O Hara 03-10-08 35
   Eliza an II victim? Bebo 03-20-08 38
       RE: Eliza an II victim? Brownroach 03-20-08 39
       RE: Eliza an II victim? Scarlett O Hara 03-21-08 40
           RE: Eliza an II victim? Erika221 03-24-08 41
               RE: Eliza an II victim? Brownroach 03-28-08 42
 Since we've posted here last vince3 04-25-08 43
   RE: Since we've posted here last KLicK 04-27-08 44
       RE: Since we've posted here last vince3 04-27-08 45
           RE: Since we've posted here last KLicK 04-27-08 47
       RE: Since we've posted here last PepeLePew13 04-27-08 46

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Scarlett O Hara 2585 desperate attention whore postings
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03-07-08, 09:52 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list"
That looks about right Bebo. I have noticed on both sides, how they are picking off the strong one by one. It will come back to bite them.

I for one will be sorry to see all females in the Final 5. How disappointing ...

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03-07-08, 10:23 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list"
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-08 AT 10:24 AM (EST)

It will come back to bite them.

How do you figure? If the 5 women do make the final 5, it hasn't bitten them at all, it gets one of them the million which is what the game is all about. What should the women do, bow down to the men, take their lot in the game and be happy with 10th, jury spot, what? They are plotting and scheming and figuring out a way to get to the end game using what they have best to use. Not everybody can be an Ozzy that is physically strong and a provider, but if Ozzy is stupid enough not to see the future by his moves now, then he deserves the boot he will eventually get when the women out number the men.

When people sit back and don't make a move in the game we complain that they have wasted space, when people do scheme and make moves we complain because they are getting rid of the strong.

I learned early on that Survivor is not about how well you can survive on an island with nothing but a machete, it is about the social pecking order and how do you manipulate that. Cirie has done the best job of positioning herself for the future, like it or not the woman is playing the game.


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03-07-08, 10:57 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list"
Sits here with Kobrienfan. But I will be soo sad to see Ozzy go. At least I have time to get used to the idea that he will be out fairly soon.

Anyone except Parvati, please.



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03-07-08, 11:00 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list"
LAST EDITED ON 03-07-08 AT 11:25 AM (EST)

Someone this season does get it "jamie style". (Burned by a fake hidden immunity idol?) - We're shown Jason in the Ep. 6 previews finding the fake idol, so Jason looks like our best candidate for getting burnt by the fake II. Quote from Jeff: A major blunder. I know when it happened that James was thinking, thank God.

Some spoilers said James makes the merge, others that he makes jury (On SF's general spoiler it says jury). If the blunder is Jason using the fake idol, and Jason makes the jury, James must be on the jury to see it happen.

I think probably there will be three finalists with a jury of seven. Why would they revert to two finalists now?



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03-07-08, 11:08 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list"
Why would they revert to two finalists now?

The power of mass prayer?


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03-07-08, 11:33 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list"
I agree with you BR...I think the Makes merge about James is that they are not sure where he goes early or mid jury...but he is on the jury and does outlast Jason imho


And KT I agree with your statement above...go girls!! I just wish Ami was there....but irony irony EPMB loves his irony...and so does Joel in LL!

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03-07-08, 12:56 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list"
If James makes the jury, then I agree that a 3 finalist/7 jury members scenario is the way it would be. This bodes well for the Favorites.

We're looking at a potential F5 with 3 Favorites and 2 Fans. Let's assume that everyone the Fever says makes the jury does in fact make the jury - the remainder would be 3 Favorites, 2 Fans (James, Eliza, Ozzy, Erik, Jason). Let's also assume that Jeff's quote about Fans wanting a fan to win and Faves wanting a favorite to win is a predictor of their final votes.

In a Final 3 with both fans, a Fave would win 5-2.
In a Final 3 with 1 Fan/2 Faves, it could get interesting. The Faves could all vote for the same Favorite and make it a 4-3 win, could force a tie with a 3-3-1 vote, or give it away to the Fan if they spilt 3-2-2.

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03-07-08, 11:20 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list"
I agree Bebo about who's being "jaime style" burned by a fake HII. It'll definitely be Jason. But WHAT WAS OZZY THINKING? Telling one person about having the HII is risky enough in itself, but to tell more than that is suicide. I just wonder, since SF's list doesn't reference James' longevity and JP mentions a major blunder with a HII, if Ozzy gives James the HII to save himself and he uses it when it's not needed or doesn't use it when needed. Two seasons in a row with the same player being burned by not playing the HII correctly would be a MAJOR blunder. Just food for thought.


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03-07-08, 11:45 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list"
I remember somewere Jeff stating James II blunder being the worst in Survivor History So Far does not last that long, so I think it has to be someone other than James who makes the blunder. Its the guy who finds the fake in the Preview, IMO. And as you can tell he has made a huge impression on me, as I don't even remember his name, Josh?



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03-07-08, 12:29 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list"
Jason. Joshuah is the world-class idiot in the hamster cage. Jason is the potentially world-class idiot on the island.

Beyond that, there may not be a lot of difference.

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03-07-08, 01:01 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Visting Survivor Fever's list"
If the blunder is Jason playing the fake idol, he is going to be utterly humiliated when he realizes what happened. According to Probst, Jason idolized Ozzy coming into the game.

JEFF PROBST SAYS: ''Jason loves to compare himself to Ozzy . He thinks Ozzy is the greatest player to ever participate in Survivor — I think he's kind of got a man-crush on him. He's coming on strong in the beginning saying, 'I'm going to go toe-to-toe with Ozzy. I can climb coconut trees just like he can, I can swim just like he can, and I'm just as athletic as he is.'

How ironic that Ozzy's artfulness would be the direct cause of Jason's downfall.



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03-07-08, 03:47 PM (EST)
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13. "Playing the fake idol"
I don't see playing the fake idol as a blunder. Jaime played one last season, but what choice did she have? She was dead anyway and took a chance that it might be the idol.

Now if Jason tells his alliance to vote for him since he will play the idol, and the idol is fake, then I can see that being called a blunder.

And I can't imagine that this would be the case, but what if the idol isn't the sculpture but rather the wrapping cloth, and it is Ozzy who blundered by taking only the sculpture. That would be epic compared to James. But if Ozzy is predicted to go after James, then this scenario is unlikely.


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03-07-08, 04:30 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Playing the fake idol"
James doesn't have to still be in the game when the blunder happens. He could be observing the TC from the jury.

I do think you're probably right that the blunder is comp