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"Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2"
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"Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2"
The first thread is getting a little long, but we still have plenty of season left and some figuring too.

Volcanic Glass has spoiled this season so very well, hats off, kudos, and many thanks for keeping it fun with the tips and hints!

What is still hinted at and yet to come (my own spec in parenthesis):

-Stacy will either win immunity or be given the necklace to wear at some point

-Yau-Man is the immunity challenge hound but will have some competition by someone athletic (most likely Dreamz)

-Mookie will be gone before the car challenge (car challenge should be at F6 this season)

-Yau will win the car challenge and strike some kind of deal with Dreamz, Dreamz gets the car but the curse continues as Yau doesn't win Survivor

-There is an omen circled around Yau-Man, Stacy, and Dreamz (it is speculated that when Yau uses his hidden idol it bounces Stacy)

-Dreamz, Cassandra, Earl in the F3

-Yau out at F4

Remaining Boot Speculation

Based on what we have seen in the editing, the alliance workings etc, here is my best guess on how the rest of the season plays out.

8 people left. Alex and Mookie are targets, but Alex is a bigger threat and will go first. They stir up crap this week, but in the end the status quo will reign and a 6-2 boot of Alex (Stacy could have immunity this week, if not then Yau Man)

7 people left, Mookie vulnerable and on his own. Since the car challenge is in the next episode, this has got to be Mookie's swan song with no shake ups, 6-1 boot of Mookie (If Stacy didn't win immunity before, she wins it here, if she did then Yau Man wins)

6 people left, with Boo-Stacy-Dreamz on the outskirts of the Earl-Cassandra-Yau Man alliance. Yau wins the car and makes a deal with Dreamz, but Dreamz is still a snake. Yau wins immunity but gives the hidden idol to either Earl or Cassandra in front of Dreamz (as reverse pyschology) knowing he could tell the others. E/Y/C believe that Boo is with them in voting out Stacy, but Dreamz convinces Stacy and Boo that the only way that they have a shot to win the money is to vote out Cassandra. The idol is privately given to Cassandra and the vote is a tie 3-3 but with the idol played it bounces to Stacy

5 people left. Dreamz would be the target but he wins immunity. One player plays the hidden idol, but has no affect. Bye to Boo

4 people left, Dreamz wins immunity again. He doesn't want to go against Yau Man in the F3, so he sides with Earl/Cassandra who also don't want to face him, goodbye to Yau Man

That gets us to the F3 and fits all of the clues. I know the hidden idol bounce could work many other ways at F6, but I believe that is the only plausible place that it gets played.

So to recap:

Episode 11- F8 Alex
Episode 12- F7 Mookie
Episode 13- F6 Stacy (Hidden idol played, Yau wins car gives it to Dre)
Episode 14 (Finale)- F5 Boo
F4- Yau Man
F3- Cassandra
F2- Dreamz
Winner- Earl


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 KoalaChick 04-21-07 1
 RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 Flowerpower 04-21-07 2
   RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 KObrien_fan 04-21-07 3
       RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 emydi 04-23-07 5
           RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 Brownroach 04-23-07 6
           RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 KObrien_fan 04-23-07 7
 RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 RudyRules 04-22-07 4
   RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 forestfriend 04-24-07 8
 4/26 Update: Oh.My.Heck! vince3 04-26-07 9
 Political Coup=NO FAMILY VISIT emydi 04-27-07 10
   RE: Political Coup=NO FAMILY VISIT vince3 04-28-07 11
 RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 emydi 05-01-07 12
 RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 Chez 05-01-07 13
 TV Guide Preview KObrien_fan 05-02-07 14
   RE: TV Guide Preview Brownroach 05-02-07 15
 5/2 Update: The Twists aren't over... vince3 05-02-07 16
   RE: 5/2 Update: The Twists aren't ... Brownroach 05-03-07 17
 A survivor first emydi 05-04-07 18
   RE: A survivor first KObrien_fan 05-06-07 19
 RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 emydi 05-07-07 20
   RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 KObrien_fan 05-07-07 21
       RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 emydi 05-07-07 22
           RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 KObrien_fan 05-07-07 23
               RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 Brownroach 05-07-07 24
                   RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 emydi 05-07-07 26
                       RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 Brownroach 05-07-07 27
           RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 emydi 05-07-07 25
               RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 Brownroach 05-07-07 28
                   RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 emydi 05-07-07 29
                       RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 Brownroach 05-07-07 30
                           RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 KObrien_fan 05-07-07 31
                               RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 emydi 05-08-07 32
   RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 VolcanicGlass 05-09-07 53
 RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 vince3 05-08-07 33
   RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 emydi 05-08-07 34
       RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 vince3 05-08-07 35
       RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 Brownroach 05-08-07 36
           RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 emydi 05-08-07 37
 Voice over of a new promo KObrien_fan 05-08-07 38
   RE: Voice over of a new promo emydi 05-09-07 42
       RE: Voice over of a new promo Brownroach 05-09-07 43
           RE: Voice over of a new promo KObrien_fan 05-09-07 44
               RE: Voice over of a new promo Brownroach 05-09-07 45
                   RE: Voice over of a new promo emydi 05-09-07 46
                       RE: Voice over of a new promo Brownroach 05-09-07 47
                           RE: Voice over of a new promo KObrien_fan 05-09-07 48
                               RE: Voice over of a new promo Brownroach 05-09-07 49
                                   RE: Voice over of a new promo emydi 05-09-07 50
                                       RE: Voice over of a new promo Brownroach 05-09-07 51
                                           RE: Voice over of a new promo emydi 05-09-07 52
 RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 Chez 05-09-07 39
   RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 Bebo 05-09-07 40
       RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2 KObrien_fan 05-09-07 41
 5/12 post emydi 05-12-07 54
   RE: 5/12 post emydi 05-13-07 55

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1. "RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2"
Thanks for laying all that out, KO. I hope the F6 Tribal Council plays out the way you suspect! Love to double-cross the double-crossers!
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2. "RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2"
Hiya, KO! Great predictions there, I only have one conflict...
E/Y/C believe that Boo is with them in voting out Stacy, but Dreamz convinces Stacy and Boo that the only way that they have a shot to win the money is to vote out Cassandra.

I firmly believe that the Dreamz does not have the smarts to convince anyone of anything at this point. I think if he pulls for anyone to be a target, it would be Earl, and not Cassandra. I believe that Yau would perhaps only give his idol up to save Earl??? Just my thoughts at this point. I definately agree that it will be Alex then Mookie next, then Stacy, then Boo, Yau-man and then our final three. Earl chooses to keep Dre around because he thinks he's a great one to go up against in the end...and he's right!



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3. "RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2"
However it happens I believe that Stacy goes at F6 and Yau uses his idol. The other thing that can throw a wrench in it is that the third idol will be at large at that point, so Cass or Earl could also have a hidden idol and not need to play it.

I don't think Dreamz is the mastermind per se, but he will be on the side of Boo and Stacy but Stacy gets the boot.


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5. "RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2"
Keep it simple (although I rarely do)

My theory is the Yau gives the idol to DRE to oust Stacy (everyone else votes for the wildcard Dre)

That way the FULL OF PORTENT clues make sense with YM Stacy and Dre directly involved. After they go on RC and they make the deal, YM and Dre sense that Dre is in danger...YM saves him and makes Dre's betrayal at F4 even more controversial

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6. "RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2"
I'm with you, emy. As you know.

Dreamz is too unpredictable, and, as I read VG's clues, he will also be the one to give Yau-Man some competition in the challenges. Everyone is going to want him gone once Alex and Mookie are disposed of.


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7. "RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2"
I think that sounds like a very plausible way for Stacy to get booted at F6!


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4. "RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2"
LAST EDITED ON 04-22-07 AT 08:28 PM (EST)

Good speculation and recap of the Spoilers we know about.
Honestly though, I am not sure about Dre convincing Stacy and Boo to vote out Cass. I think it's more likely that one of them, probably Stacy, comes up with the plan and sells it to Dre.
I just don't think that Dre really knows what he is doing.

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8. "RE: Survivor Phoenix Updates part 2"
I think it's a mistake to ask Dre to vote Cassandra out or to suspect him to be in on such a plan. He loves that woman.
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9. "4/26 Update: Oh.My.Heck!"
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4/26 Update: "This fellow is wise enough to play the fool."

If someone volunteers for Exile, are they really exiled?
If someone lets others get the glory, are they really winning?
If someone wants to be voted off, are they really a quitter?

The reward challenge is a showcase for the catchers, and the green team (Alex, Dre, Earl and Stacy) benefits greatly from Dre's athletic prowess. As noted earlier, Boo and his teammates (Cassandra, Mookie and Yau-Man) will be missing out on the reward. Since the hidden Immunity Idol was played in the previous Tribal Council, a new set of clues will be given starting this week. The strategic question of who to send at this point in the game becomes somewhat moot when Boo volunteers to go to Exile Island. Who wants to argue with the injured man who brought the challenge to a temporary halt?

Every chess player has done it: sacrifice for better strategic positioning. Former Survivor players have tried it. As we noted earlier, this week we are shown how to do it well, as a move within a game, not as the purpose of the game. Sometimes not winning a challenge makes you stronger.

A nod to CBS for spoiling the show along with us, proving that knowing the end is not a problem as long as the story is well told. From this week's promos we give you the spoiled story via black and white sequences.


RC: "The Star of the Challemge"

Exile: "I Need A Vacation"

Immunity: "Wise Enough to Play the Fool"

Sting: "Giddy as School Boys"

Intended Victims: "Meh"

Boot: "The Only Merge Player to Have Played the Real Survivor"


The captions are seen by dragging your pointer over the pictures.......

ETA: On the Cast Page she's already has Jury Seat 5 assigned to Mookie..........

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10. "Political Coup=NO FAMILY VISIT"
Like Africa...no family visit...bc of political coup during filming

http://resources.survivorphoenix.com/postnuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1322

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11. "RE: Political Coup=NO FAMILY VISIT"
You know, I'm not surprised about this at all, because I would think that they'd hype the family's appearance if it was gonna happen, and since next week is the car challenge, then F5 on Sunday, this was the last chance for Family Reward and we heard that there was another trip involved in the Reward Prize Pool again for this week......
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